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andrewbaba44:
Perez is better than kc bro ,the stats are there

Playing as a striker/ behind the striker and some times from the flanks from his Newcastle days

Dude is not even a CF self

post the stats let us see since you feel the one I posted was from oluwole boys. Oya post the stats for 2019/2020 stats (Leicester)

kellycute:
post the stats let us see since you feel the one I posted was from oluwole boys. Oya post the stats for 2019/2020 stats (Leicester)

I don already post my own

You are comparing a winger and a striker ,even the winger got better goal ratio

Iheanacho have 9 epl goals in almost 100 games while Perez got 8 epl goals in 33 games in a single season

If we see truth make we Dey talk

You think nacho can even play from the flanks self ?

I rest my case

Olise vs Colchester united

andrewbaba44:
You no like iheanacho pass me oo

But you see this arguement you go loose am

Perez that played form the flanks last season ?

where was nacho playing last season? Top striker while vardy was on the bench chilling abi?. Guy stop to make excuse for Perez. He is not better. Mane and Salah play from the wing but they scored tons of goalazooo.

Perez played 40 matches, scored 8goals, 5 assist

Nacho played 26 matches, scored 10 goals, 4 assists.

Nacho is better finito!.

andrewbaba44:
You no Dey watch epl ?

Perez is not even a striker self

Why I said he is better is that he do play as a winger or behind the striker ,even at Leicester you can all see where he is playing

Nacho 71 epl games and 9 goals

Ayoze Perez 33 epl games and 8 goals and playing from the flanks

Using the same logic you can say Iheanacho is not a striker because he usually plays behind Vardy and sometimes from the right

You want to use Komekn's argument of number of games while he only comes in the last 15 minutes to complete the game why not use minutes per goals like a real EPL fan?

andrewbaba44:
You no Dey watch epl ?

Perez is not even a striker self

Why I said he is better is that he do play as a winger or behind the striker ,even at Leicester you can all see where he is playing

Nacho 71 epl games and 9 goals

Ayoze Perez 33 epl games and 8 goals and playing from the flanks

tell that to mane, sterling, and Salah. Hahaha. He played 33 epl games (2,018 minute) managed to scores 8 goal. Nacho played 20 epl games (960minute) scored 5 goals. Most time nacho was coming from the bench and yet his number is still better than Perez at the end of the season. Finito

andrewbaba44:
I don already post my own

You are comparing a winger and a striker ,even the winger got better goal ratio

Iheanacho have 9 epl goals in almost 100 games while Perez got 8 epl goals in 33 games in a single season

If we see truth make we Dey talk

You think nacho can even play from the flanks self ?

I rest my case

we are talking about 2019/2020 epl season with Leicester city. Stop dilly dally like forgiveness and stick to the tenet of the discussion. They both play in the same club so judge them according to their stats for Leicester.

kellycute:
of course he will definitely lose his precision in front of goal because he doesn't play regular football no more.lamarck theory of use and disuse come to mind. Nacho need to leave Leicester and move elsewhere for game time. He can even go on loan. He need a sit down with rodger and demand to be send out on loan cos he want to play but instead he show up to training with smiling face and sit on the bench smiling at everyone. He is still a good player but he need to play!

Iheanacho has that innate talent but he doesn't have that burning desire to get off his comfort zone to take charge of his career. Just look at the growth of a once carpentry forward like Calvert Lewin. Dude is so comfortable with his bench role at Leicester, so you don't expect me to keep rating him highly, should Igboras Moffi and Tolu perform in France and Germany respectful, being contracted to an EPL club is not gonna be enough to get Iheanacho invited to the super eagles.

sheyishemba:
Mr brother environment has little or nothing to do with your technical ability we have seen many Africa players like yaya toure ,jay jay okocha ,mahrez, sallah,mane, aubmeyang, ziyech that are technically proficient players.
The truth of the matter is nacho is not technically proficient how would expect a player with 0.8 sucessful dribble per game and 7.0 possesion lost per game to be technically possesion most of his possession lost are as a result of his bad first touches.

Aubamayeng's technical ability is average sha(or should I say inconsistent).
I get the point you're trying to make though.

Subzero47:
Using the same logic you can say Iheanacho is not a striker because he usually plays behind Vardy and sometimes from the right

You want to use Komekn's argument of number of games while he only comes in the last 15 minutes to complete the game why not use minutes per goals like a real EPL fan?

This is not komekn arguement

Perez is a better player than iheanacho ,even una self know am for una mind but una go Dey deceive una self

I remain a nacho fan boy

kellycute:
we are talking about 2019/2020 epl season with Leicester city. Stop dilly dally like forgiveness and stick to the tenet of the discussion. They both play in the same club so judge them according to their stats for Leicester.

Calm down bro ,stop being too serious ,take a deep breath okay

Na you enter transfermkt Dey do like forgiveness already

andrewbaba44:
This is not komekn arguement

Perez is a better player than iheanacho ,even una self know am for una mind but una go Dey deceive una self

I remain a nacho fan boy

because you said so we should accept your opinions? Your stats don't even support your opinions as far as 2019/2020 season is concern. Talk another thing joor

ChrisKels:
Iheanacho has that innate talent but he doesn't have that burning desire to get off his comfort zone to take charge of his career. Just look at the growth of a once carpentry forward like Calvert Lewin. Dude is so comfortable with his bench role at Leicester, so you don't expect me to keep rating him highly, should Igboras Moffi and Tolu perform in France and Germany respectful, being contracted to an EPL club is not gonna be enough to get Iheanacho invited to the super eagles.

God bless you Chris ,make we Dey talk truth at times

Kelly think say e love nacho pass us maybe so he is always blinded by sentiment

Calvert lewin wasn’t even good as nacho then but see today

He doesn’t even deserve to be on the recent eagles list self

andrewbaba44:
Calm down bro ,stop being too serious ,take a deep breath okay

Na you enter transfermkt Dey do like forgiveness already

as u talk say Perez better Naim I say make I go check maybe na another Perez una dey talk about . Very soon dem go say Mikel is technically poor.

kellycute:
because you said so we should accept your opinions? Your stats don't even support your opinions as far as 2019/2020 season is concern. Talk another thing joor

Ayoze Perez is better than iheanacho even you know this in your mind but you will be blinded by sentiment

Me go Dey talk things as I see am this days okay

You know how many times I don insult komekn for iheanacho issue ?

But for him saying Perez is better than nacho he is right ,we ain’t talking about solanke here okay

andrewbaba44:
God bless you Chris ,make we Dey talk truth at times

Kelly think say e love nacho pass us maybe so he is always blinded by sentiment

Calvert lewin wasn’t even good as nacho then but see today

He doesn’t even deserve to be on the recent eagles list self

I'm not bias bro. I already said I want nacho to leave Leicester and yall know my stance on this issue but Perez is not better than nacho. Stats is there for everyone to see.

kellycute:
money isn't everything joor. He should go elsewhere to play regularly and shine then better money will come.

I'm not sure nacho knows this

andrewbaba44:
Ayoze Perez is better than iheanacho even you know this in your mind but you will be blinded by sentiment

Me go Dey talk things as I see am this days okay

You know how many times I don insult komekn for iheanacho issue ?

But for him saying Perez is better than nacho he is right ,we ain’t talking about solanke here okay

it is your own opinion. As for me, nacho is better and stats support my opinion. EOD

kellycute:
it is your own opinion. As for me, nacho is better and stats support my opinion. EOD

Lol okay

You go by stats but you didn’t go by stats when rating Abraham and Osimehn last season

It’s well

TheSuperNerd:
And please all these deluded and "obviously biased" Chelsea fans should not pollute the thread with their rubbish debates. We all know the only reason they speak for Tammy is b'cos he is a blue.

There is absolutely no way Tammy is on Osimhen's level. Osimhen worked his way up and earned a World Class Transfer fee. His €80M+ move didn't come about b'cos they wanted to do him a bloody favor. Victor earned every penny of that record move. The lad showed the beastly qualities needed to command that fee and that hype.

Tammy got into Chelsea's First XI for 2019/2020 b'cos of a transfer ban. And now he is out of it b'cos Chelsea's ban have been lifted and he is now backup to Werner.

In OSIMHEN'S case, Milik is being kicked out b'cos of him. Petagna is his backup. Mertens will be given a modified attacking role all b'cos of Osimhen's arrival.

How do you begin to compare a kid that was handed a starting shirt on a platter in his country of birth b'cos of a transfer ban circumstance to a kid who battled his way up from Germany's tough times to Belgium and then to Ligue 1 where he made huge marks and now he is in a Top side like Napoli(?)

You insult the talents of Osimhen to even begin such comparison.

Fact remains if Tammy had chosen Nigeria.... HE WILL BE BLOODY BENCHED!!!! WHY?? Osimhen is simply better. As an all-round center forward, Osimhen offers much more and brings much more to the table. Anyone who knows their football can clearly see that!!!

And Tammy doesn't have the Will and the Fire to lead the attack of Africa's most popular Football playing nation. The weight of the Super Eagles #9 shirt will be too much for the lad. That's the truth. He is decent and a good number 9 but we have a much more powerful and more impactful Number 9 in Osimhen.

Osimhen has the presence of a born #9. Tammy simply doesn't give off same aura.

Finito!

Tega plays for Chelsea that has the highest turnover of top level expensive forwards in the history of the EPL. Too many have come and gone apart from Drogba and Costa all have had to leave albeit with thier pockets filled with compensatory ££££€€€€. That included managers too.

Tega Abrahams ABSOLUTELY earned the right many tried but did not succeed. Why after consecutive seasons of outstanding performances in the Championship as well as in a struggling Swansea in the EPL.

Tega is the most currently and successful HERE and NOW striker in Chelsea. Chelsea is a big club with a big expensive rotation system. His first season in the EPL for Chelsea and 15 goals is not a fluke.

Timo Werner has not achieved anything in the EPL for Chelsea yet and indeed may go the way of so many more expensive strikers before him. Such as Morata. Timo will be given opportunity but the clock is ticking for him, it is not for Tega.

So your proposition is nonsensical without any substance whatsoever.

Once again Thesuperdelusional has convinced himself of sentiment based and emotive Balderdash that there is substance to his view.

But its just wind and fresh air, self - birthed and self-justified, infantile ramblings.

Aggression or if you like gra gra are not the chore attributes for a striker. Messi , Ronaldo, Benzema, Mbappe, Kane, Tega Aubmeyang, Lacazette are not overly aggressive but very effective.

Not too long ago Rohr benched Victor because he was too light weight and lacked presence. Was the very wise and experienced coach blind ❓ Indeed his first game in the AFCON was abysmal. He may have improved now.

Not one top EPL, Bundesliga and or La Liga club put in a substantive offer for him. All we had was media speculation.

Napoli has always been a top club in Seria A, but lost ground last season and want to get back. They have placed their hopes on Victor, l hope it pays off, big money = GREAT EXPECTATIONS.

Victor is very good and exceptional striker but he is not world class yet. He is not technically astute in comparison to the best, he has essentially been fast tracked. He has played barely two seasons of first team professional football. He is not experienced and has a lot to prove.

He is by club form the BEST Striker in the context of the SE.

Ighalo the other contendor though experienced and proven is not playing enough first team football or scored enough goal to displace Victor. And considering the competition in Manchester United may never unless he moves but I see the same fate falling on Victor if he was in Manchester United too.

But back to the irrelevant contention of Tega and Victor, l am not sure why this contention. But it stems from OVER HYPE.

I would rather use an indisputable objective benchmark Romelu Lukaku, never got a chance at Chelsea. But is ABSOLUTELY world class and arguably the best out and out striker in the world.

CONSISTENCY he is only 27 but has been a top striker for 11 years, Non stop continous. He scored 15 goals at the age of 16 for Anderlecht in the Belgian first division league.

However, after 11 years of top level consistency Inter Milan paid the same as what Napoli have paid for Lukaku, when he left Manchester United, 80 million.

That should put things into perspective is Victor anywhere near Lukaku in any way shape or form, ABSOLUTELY NOT. So stop trying to big up Victor by denigrating Tega it's simply uncalled for and childish.

So get your head in check stop being infantile and look at matters objectively not in deluded isolation.

Tega Abrahams and Victor Osimhen are not world class strikers both exceptional and bother different with different attributes. Who is better is a matter of preference.

EOD

kellycute:
I'm not bias bro. I already said I want nacho to leave Leicester and yall know my stance on this issue but Perez is not better than nacho. Stats is there for everyone to see.

What are the stats if I may ask self

How many goals did Perez and nacho scored last season ?

The last time I checked one was playing out of position and one was playing in his position

kellycute:
as u talk say Perez better Naim I say make I go check maybe na another Perez una dey talk about . Very soon dem go say Mikel is technically poor.

Wetin bring Mikel come here now ?

Same me that used to call Mikel world class

It’s well

andrewbaba44:
This is not komekn arguement

Perez is a better player than iheanacho ,even una self know am for una mind but una go Dey deceive una self

I remain a nacho fan boy

If na another person say this you go accuse the person of being a hater, now bring fact to backup your argument you dey yarn dust

andrewbaba44:
Lol okay

You go by stats but you didn’t go by stats when rating Abraham and Osimehn last season

It’s well

post their stats last season let me see.

andrewbaba44:
What are the stats if I may ask self

How many goals did Perez and nacho scored last season ?

The last time I checked one was playing out of position and one was playing in his position

hahahaha. Check the stats bro and be calming down . Nor be me you wan dilly dally like forgiveness.

Subzero47:
If na another person say this you go accuse the person of being a hater, now bring fact to backup your argument you dey yarn dust

What’s stopping you from calling me an hater ? Baba na free world Abeg you can call me an hater but your conscience no go allow you because you know I have always supported nacho even when he was doing so badly 2 seasons ago unlike you who will criticize iwobi with any opportunity and even goes blind when he scores

Perez is just 1 goals away from meeting iheanacho epl goals and nacho has been there for 3 seasons

Be deceiving your self when the facts are staring at you

andrewbaba44:
Wetin bring Mikel come here now ?

Same me that used to call Mikel world class

It’s well

the word "technical astute" has been flying around lately. It is normal to assume soon enough they will categorise Mikel under "not technical astute". Afterall they said Osimhen is just pace and nothing else. He is not technical astute.... Another komeknish!

kellycute:
the word "technical astute" has been flying around lately. It is normal to assume soon enough they will categorise Mikel under "not technical astute". Afterall they said Osimhen is just pace and nothing else. He is not technical astute.... Another komeknish!

Mikel and Osimehn are ,trust me

Subzero47:
If na another person say this you go accuse the person of being a hater, now bring fact to backup your argument you dey yarn dust

haha I tired for his matter. He nor gree post stats to support his opinion but he want force am down my throat .

andrewbaba44:
Mikel and Osimehn are ,trust me

komekn and sheyishemba don't support your assertion at all. According to them, majority of our players are technically poor and they can't even lace Michael Olise boot

komekn:
Tega plays for Chelsea that has the highest turnover of top level expensive forwards in the history of the EPL. Too many have come and gone apart from Drogba and Costa all have had to leave albeit with thier pockets filled with compensatory ££££€€€€. That included managers too.

Tega Abrahams ABSOLUTELY earned the right many tried but did not succeed. Why after consecutive seasons of outstanding performances in the Championship as well as in a struggling Swansea in the EPL.

Tega is the most currently and successful HERE and NOW striker in Chelsea. Chelsea is a big club with a big expensive rotation system. His first season in the EPL for Chelsea and 15 goals is not a fluke.

Timo Werner has not achieved anything in the EPL for Chelsea yet and indeed may go the way of so many more expensive strikers before him. Such as Morata. Timo will be given opportunity but the clock is ticking for him, it is not for Tega.

So your proposition is nonsensical without any substance whatsoever.

Once again Thesuperdelusional has convinced himself of sentiment based and emotive Balderdash that there is substance to his view.

But its just wind and fresh air, self - birthed and self-justified, infantile ramblings.

Aggression or if you like gra gra are not the chore attributes for a striker. Messi , Ronaldo, Benzema, Mbappe, Kane, Tega Aubmeyang, Lacazette are not overly aggressive but very effective.

Not too long ago Rohr benched Victor because he was too light weight and lacked presence. Was the very wise and experienced coach blind ❓ Indeed his first game in the AFCON was abysmal. He may have improved now.

Not one top EPL, Bundesliga and or La Liga club put in a substantive offer for him. All we had was media speculation.

Napoli has always been a top club in Seria A, but lost ground last season and want to get back. They have placed their hopes on Victor, l hope it pays off, big money = GREAT EXPECTATIONS.

Victor is very good and exceptional striker but he is not world class yet. He is not technically astute in comparison to the best, he has essentially been fast tracked. He has played barely two seasons of first team professional football. He is not experienced and has a lot to prove.

He is by club form the BEST Striker in the context of the SE.

Ighalo the other contendor though experienced and proven is not playing enough first team football or scored enough goal to displace Victor. And considering the competition in Manchester United may never unless he moves but I see the same fate falling on Victor if he was in Manchester United too.

But back to the irrelevant contention of Tega and Victor, l am not sure why this contention. But it stems from OVER HYPE.

I would rather use an indisputable objective benchmark Romelu Lukaku, never got a chance at Chelsea. But is ABSOLUTELY world class and arguably the best out and out striker in the world.

CONSISTENCY he is only 27 but has been a top striker for 11 years, Non stop continous. He scored [b]15 goals at the age of 16 [/b]for Anderlecht in the Belgian first division league.

However, after 11 years of top level consistency Inter Milan paid the same as what Napoli have paid for Lukaku, when he left Manchester United, 80 million.

That should put things into perspective is Victor anywhere near Lukaku in any way shape or form, ABSOLUTELY NOT. So stop trying to big up Victor by denigrating Tega it's simply uncalled for and childish.

So get your head in check stop being infantile and look at matters objectively not in deluded isolation.

Tega Abrahams and Victor Osimhen are not world class strikers both exceptional and bother different with different attributes. Who is better is a matter of preference.

EOD

so Abraham is better than timo werner. Na wa o...
Cc Andrewbaba44

Subzero47:
If na another person say this you go accuse the person of being a hater, now bring fact to backup your argument you dey yarn dust

Stats have to be used to complement your view they don't constitute your entire deduction.

For instance look at the statistic, ASSISTS, a players could have a very long throw ( Rory Delap Stoke City) and is able to use his long throw in like a corner kick. The team may score 10 goals from those throw in over the season. That player will be attributed with 10 assists.

Or indeed you have a central defender who just kicks and hoofs the ball up from never passes. His big tall powerful striker gets it and scores, it will be classed as an assist.

Meanwhile Adama Traore or Maximin at Newcastle may receive a pass from the goalkeeper dribble, outpace and out muscle 5/6 players pass it to the midfielder who lays it on for the striker.

Meanwhile he has done everything but is not given any accolade according to statistics.

So you really need to watch the whole gamelan the players impact not just look at statistics.