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kellycute:
so Abraham is better than timo werner. Na wa o...
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andrewbaba44:
What’s stopping you from calling me an hater ? Baba na free world Abeg you can call me an hater but your conscience no go allow you because you know I have always supported nacho even when he was doing so badly 2 seasons ago unlike you who will criticize iwobi with any opportunity and even goes blind when he scores

Perez is just 1 goals away from meeting iheanacho epl goals and nacho has been there for 3 seasons

Be deceiving your self when the facts are staring at you

kellycute:
komekn and sheyishemba don't support your assertion at all. According to them, majority of our players are technically poor and they can't even lace Michael Olise boot

andrewbaba44:
Who talk so baba ?

Komekn as usual

kellycute:
komekn and sheyishemba don't support your assertion at all. According to them, majority of our players are technically poor and they can't even lace Michael Olise boot

Sheyishemmba:
Mr nerdy permit me to call you an ogogoro joint analyst who is devoid of football knowledge.
Mr nerdy how can you judge a player by a YouTube clip of 3 minutes ( that quite funny IMO) according to sofa score nacho loses possession 7.0 per game he clocked 960 minutes last season in premier league mathematically nacho loses possession 7 times in 137 minutes and according to his stat most of his possession lost are as a result of poor first touches while few are as a result of clearance et al come here and shalaye how a technical proficient player will be having bad first touches
Nacho also have successful dribble rate of 0.8 per game which 56% successful biko is that the stat of a typical pirlo or ronaldihno
My Broda wake stop being ignorant.

kellycute:
komekn and sheyishemba don't support your assertion at all. According to them, majority of our players are technically poor and they can't even lace Michael Olise boot

komekn:
Can you quote me please , use a screenshot.

Otherwise you are just a BLATANT LIAR.

Otherwise you are descending into the gutter LIES and DECEIT to present your point of view.

ChrisKels:
Iheanacho has that innate talent but he doesn't have that burning desire to get off his comfort zone to take charge of his career. Just look at the growth of a once carpentry forward like Calvert Lewin. Dude is so comfortable with his bench role at Leicester, so you don't expect me to keep rating him highly, should Igboras Moffi and Tolu perform in France and Germany respectful, being contracted to an EPL club is not gonna be enough to get Iheanacho invited to the super eagles.

Sheyishemmba:
Try to think like an human why this animalistic talk where did I say osihmen and Mikel are not technically astute
I only said onomah and nwakali can't lace the shoe of olise....sentiments aside this dude has proven my words this season he is 7.2 rating according to sofa score he has created the highest chance in EFL cup this season higher than Kai harvetz and all other star players that have graced EFL this season and mind you he only played once...check his long range shot against Barnsley.

Danielnino00:
It is foolhardy to use championship (or any other second division league) stats to judge a plaher, in case you don't know..

And that Olise kid is just starting out... Saying Nwakali and Onomah can't lace is boot is pure nonsense..

andrewbaba44:
What’s stopping you from calling me an hater ? Baba na free world Abeg you can call me an hater but your conscience no go allow you because you know I have always supported nacho even when he was doing so badly 2 seasons ago unlike you who will criticize iwobi with any opportunity and even goes blind when he scores

Perez is just 1 goals away from meeting iheanacho epl goals and nacho has been there for 3 seasons

Be deceiving your self when the facts are staring at you

komekn:
Tega plays for Chelsea that has the highest turnover of top level expensive forwards in the history of the EPL. Too many have come and gone apart from Drogba and Costa all have had to leave albeit with thier pockets filled with compensatory ££££€€€€. That included managers too.

Tega Abrahams ABSOLUTELY earned the right many tried but did not succeed. Why after consecutive seasons of outstanding performances in the Championship as well as in a struggling Swansea in the EPL.

Tega is the most currently and successful HERE and NOW striker in Chelsea. Chelsea is a big club with a big expensive rotation system. His first season in the EPL for Chelsea and 15 goals is not a fluke.

Timo Werner has not achieved anything in the EPL for Chelsea yet and indeed may go the way of so many more expensive strikers before him. Such as Morata. Timo will be given opportunity but the clock is ticking for him, it is not for Tega.

So your proposition is nonsensical without any substance whatsoever.

Once again Thesuperdelusional has convinced himself of sentiment based and emotive Balderdash that there is substance to his view.

But its just wind and fresh air, self - birthed and self-justified, infantile ramblings.

Aggression or if you like gra gra are not the chore attributes for a striker. Messi , Ronaldo, Benzema, Mbappe, Kane, Tega Aubmeyang, Lacazette are not overly aggressive but very effective.

Not too long ago Rohr benched Victor because he was too light weight and lacked presence. Was the very wise and experienced coach blind ❓ Indeed his first game in the AFCON was abysmal. He may have improved now.

Not one top EPL, Bundesliga and or La Liga club put in a substantive offer for him. All we had was media speculation.

Napoli has always been a top club in Seria A, but lost ground last season and want to get back. They have placed their hopes on Victor, l hope it pays off, big money = GREAT EXPECTATIONS.

Victor is very good and exceptional striker but he is not world class yet. He is not technically astute in comparison to the best, he has essentially been fast tracked. He has played barely two seasons of first team professional football. He is not experienced and has a lot to prove.

He is by club form the BEST Striker in the context of the SE.

Ighalo the other contendor though experienced and proven is not playing enough first team football or scored enough goal to displace Victor. And considering the competition in Manchester United may never unless he moves but I see the same fate falling on Victor if he was in Manchester United too.

But back to the irrelevant contention of Tega and Victor, l am not sure why this contention. But it stems from OVER HYPE.

I would rather use an indisputable objective benchmark Romelu Lukaku, never got a chance at Chelsea. But is ABSOLUTELY world class and arguably the best out and out striker in the world.

CONSISTENCY he is only 27 but has been a top striker for 11 years, Non stop continous. He scored [b]15 goals at the age of 16 [/b]for Anderlecht in the Belgian first division league.

However, after 11 years of top level consistency Inter Milan paid the same as what Napoli have paid for Lukaku, when he left Manchester United, 80 million.

That should put things into perspective is Victor anywhere near Lukaku in any way shape or form, ABSOLUTELY NOT. So stop trying to big up Victor by denigrating Tega it's simply uncalled for and childish.

So get your head in check stop being infantile and look at matters objectively not in deluded isolation.

Tega Abrahams and Victor Osimhen are not world class strikers both exceptional and bother different with different attributes. Who is better is a matter of preference.

EOD

Subzero47:
I'm not calling you a hater because unlike you I don't give a sh1t of what you think, Bring facts to prove your point

At the bolded do you mean Perez has not being playing while Iheanacho because I knew Perez is not a bench warmer at Newcastle and Leicester

komekn:
Can you quote me please , use a screenshot.

Otherwise you are just a BLATANT LIAR.

Otherwise you are descending into the gutter LIES and DECEIT to present your point of view.

TheSuperNerd:
And after all this talk of yours which I didn't bother finishing after the first two lines or so, this is the result:

Tammy Abraham is now playing backup to another striker at Chelsea while Osimhen is being installed as the lead striker for Napoli even in the presence of World Class Dries Mertens.

Mister. You need to be thoroughly lobotomised.

andrewbaba44:
Abeg call me an hater okay

I go Dey talk things as I see am and that’s all

Danielnino00:
It is foolhardy to use championship (or any other second division league) stats to judge a plaher, in case you don't know..

And that Olise kid is just starting out... Saying Nwakali and Onomah can't lace is boot is pure nonsense..

kellycute:
you are actually talking about yourself. Do you think I have time to drag issues with forgiveness? Someone that said mbappe need to prove himself in epl before he can rate him. That should tell you he doesn't know shinshin about football. He just blab and blab and use transfer market to cover his lack of football knowledge. Nacho is not a technical poor player. Technical player is a master of the technique of the game including shooting, passing, and dribbling. Nacho doesn't lack any of this aforementioned qualities especially in the area of shooting and making defence splitting pass. That was how you lot made a false statement on how nacho can't dribble until a video was posted which debunked y'all false statement and now y'all are on this same track yammering nonsense. Technical players to you mean someone that like to dilly dally on the ball like that mumu Madison or someone caressing the ball unnecessary according to y'all. Nacho can dribble, blast long range shot, make the final pass etc which hallmark of a technical player. Finito!!

komekn:
Perez is better than KC it's not a matter of debate, he is TECHNICALLY SUPERIOR by a large margin.

TheSuperNerd:
Hahahahahahahahahaha..... So now Clips won't cut it abi?? But it is a similar metric you clowns use naa. You guys see moments in a game when Nacho loses a ball or doesn't get the right pass and b'cos of those moments you tag him not technical.

And is it I who called him a Ronaldinho? Infact the point was not in him being called Ronaldinho... The point was in what he did in the clip but now you want to downplay it and use stats only... Fine.

Alright man.. Let us bring up the stats then.

I believe you agree that Harry Kane is VERY TECHNICAL. And I am sure according to you, Tammy Abraham is also highly technical. Or what about Vardy? He is more technical than Iheanacho is he not? And Giroud too I suppose. Yeah... Who knows?

Let us see what the stats tell us, shall we?



Here we go....



Per 90 Stats of some PL forwards for the 2019/2020 season showing some technical attributes like passing and dribbling. Source: Sofascore

Kelechi Iheanacho:

Key passes per 90: 0.8
Accurate passes per 90: 10.8 (81%)
Acc. passes in own half per 90: 88%
Acc.passes in opposition half per 90: 78%
Acc.long balls per 90: 86%
Succesful dribbles per 90: 0.8 (59%)
Possession lost per 90: 7.0
Was fouled per 90: 0.7


Jamie Vardy:

Key passes per 90: 0.9
Accurate passes per 90: 8.9 (71%)
Acc. passes in own half per 90: 85%
Acc.passes in opposition half per 90: 61%
Acc.long balls per 90: 54%
Succesful dribbles per 90: 0.7 (49%)
Possession lost per 90: 7.1
Was fouled per 90: 0.3


Harry Kane:

Key passes per 90: 0.9
Accurate passes per 90: 12.7 (67%)
Acc. passes in own half per 90: 76%
Acc.passes in opposition half per 90: 63%
Acc.long balls per 90: 44%
Succesful dribbles per 90: 1.0 (51%)
Possession lost per 90: 11.6
Was fouled per 90: 1.5


Tammy Abraham:

Key passes per 90: 0.6
Accurate passes per 90: 8.0 (67%)
Acc. passes in own half per 90: 80%
Acc.passes in opposition half per 90: 60%
Acc.long balls per 90: 46%
Succesful dribbles per 90: 0.5 (46%)
Possession lost per 90: 8.2
Was fouled per 90: 0.7


Olivier Giroud:

Key passes per 90: 0.4
Accurate passes per 90: 11.3 (68%)
Acc. passes in own half per 90: 82%
Acc.passes in opposition half per 90: 60%
Acc.long balls per 90: 0%
Succesful dribbles per 90: 0.2 (75%)
Possession lost per 90: 6.7
Was fouled per 90: 0.5




Now please tell me honestly who among these five forwards is the "most technical"?

Infact... Rank them from 1st to fifth... And let us see what results you or anyone in here will get?


This is how folly and pseudo-smart are exposed without hiding. So mister Shemba, the #23 bench warmer of Kom-Minion FC, you have been just been schooled yet again. Now excuse me...I got much better things to give my time to than to one who drops football gaffes for a living.

Sheyishemmba:
The term technical is referencing a player or team’s ability to perform on the field. Basically the rate of successul plays and amount individual skill when playing. This is the collective sum of individual resources like dribbling skills, ball control, speed, shooting, passing, link up play, etc.

The term tactical is referencing the individual characteristics or team’s collective mindset that enables them to read the game and act accordingly. Basically their level of organization, formation, vision, spatial awareness, effectiveness, response time, mental resilence, stamina, etc.

The above players more of tactical players than technical players traore can pass the ball and dribble does that make him technical astute hell no!!! Passing and dribbling are basic element of football that mostly are
All the players including Gk can do
But the conceptualization of technical astute comes into being in how often effective and efficient the players use their passing skills if you will agree with me there is a great discrepancy between the way messi ( technical player ) and lewandoski ( tactical players ) passes and dribbles the balls
The likes of vardy and harry Kane are tactical that only apply little of technical player which includes basic concept of passing and dribbling...common every players passes and dribbles but the distinctive factor is how well you use it and how well it known to be your style of play ..Kane,vardy and tammy are more of tactical coz of the way they constant use their pace, stamina and agility in the course of their play
A good example of technical astute players are the likes of Suarez , depay and firmino
Their stat are below

Danielnino00:
It is foolhardy to use championship (or any other second division league) stats to judge a plaher, in case you don't know..

And that Olise kid is just starting out... Saying Nwakali and Onomah can't lace is boot is pure nonsense..

iamdynamite:
name the other striker they have...that is more expensive or prolific than lewandoski..then compare the situation with that of tammy

JayromWrites:
The earlier you start ignoring Komekn, the better for you


It was the same guy that claimed
1)Tega can't be benched for Werner
2) Ibe will get numerous offers from the premier league
3) Osimhen is not good enough for Academy football at England


His folly is fully documented here, he derives Joy watching you guys argue and try to correct him... Make una allow am jare

forgiveness:
When did I say Mbappe should prove himself?

kellycute:
so Abraham is better than timo werner. Na wa o...
Cc Andrewbaba44

andrewbaba44:
Who talk so baba ?

Komekn as usual

kellycute:
so you have forgotten your "I need to see mbappe play in epl first"?. Abeg oga stay one corner abeg

Sheyishemmba:
My brother most times is not about the league but the quality of the player
Once upon a Time alli was playing for MK Don
Even Tammy and mount have played in the champion but right now they are one of the hottest prospect in the world
Nacho plays in Leicester does that means he is better than benhrama hell no !!