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Re: Is Michael The Christ? by Barristter07: 3:54pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
Emusan:O ma se o Yahweh get Father ? 1 Like |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by jesusjnr2020(m): 4:05pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
BlueAngel444:You think you're not arrogant, yet you believe that because someone doesn't listen to you when you give a wrong advice makes him proud? What are you making of yourself? Maybe I should have taken your foolish advice to please you, so you won't say i'm proud. You said I should read something wrong over and over and over again because it made sense to you? I have never said such to someone here because I believe everyone has the right to choose what to read, yet i'm the one who's proud. That's why I don't use the opinion of men to measure myself but that of God, because it's what God says of someone that would matter at the end. |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by Barristter07: 4:08pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
Acehart: You are damned confused. so when number 2 happens .... the dead Rises , whose voice raised them ?? 1 Like |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by Barristter07: 4:10pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
true2god: The same person that will descend with at Arch angels voice . It's funny it's only the voice that will descend not the arch angel right ? 1 Like |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by BlueAngel444: 4:14pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
jesusjnr2020:ha haha ROTFL is that you're still carrying in your mind I am not the one that told you to listen to me Are you saying you're not proud , and you have written like you know it far more than anyone can First at least measure what you say with truth of God's word and correct understanding of scripture. |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by jesusjnr2020(m): 4:35pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: There you go again still trying to impose your opinion on others, yet you're not arrogant. It appears you've been wasting my responses so far, so no more. Bye. |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by BlueAngel444: 4:42pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
jesusjnr2020:nahh, that's an advice which I hope u ignore and pay the price for You probably realize now I am not like the people you constantly want to attack |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by Acehart: 5:34pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
Barristter07:Maybe I am confused. But I leave you with these definitions (in pictures). For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with an order, accompanied by the proclamation of the archangel and then the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 1 Like
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Re: Is Michael The Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:42pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
YES! |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by DappaD: 6:53pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
Abeg no be Acehart be this for the screenshot below? Abi my eye don dey turn me so 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Is Michael The Christ? by Acehart: 7:04pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
DappaD: Yes, it is I. That was my view for the last few years. But I am not stagnant. I studied to know the truth and this is the truth: Michael isn’t Jesus. 2 Likes |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:05pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
DappaD: Their problem is not what they believe, but what they want to believe! So since JWs disagree with them on recognition as worshipers of our God, they're tormented badly and the next thing is looking for ways to condemn JWs, they're prepared to swallow their excrement if that's what it takes to blackmail JWs! |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:09pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
Acehart: So wait for the result of other people's study too! |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by DappaD: 7:14pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
No problem—everybody has his or her own free will to express. So whether you're stagnant oo or you're moving oo is not my wahala. So far—nothing has changed from the Scriptures that Jesus is the archangel Michael—in his heavenly position. I just see this as a desperate attempt to draw JW's out and argue vehemently with them. But at the end of the day, nothing will be achieved because there's absolutely nothing JW's can learn from you concerning the Scriptures. 1 Like |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by Acehart: 7:20pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse: Yes! |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:21pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
Acehart:Good boy! |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by DappaD: 7:23pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse: My brother, a great chasm has truly been fixed between Jehovah's Witnesses and spiritually thirsty religious zealots—Luke 16:26 |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by Acehart: 7:23pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
DappaD: Do you see this as a desperate attempt to draw the JWs out? Well, that’s not my aim. Though the JWs are always spoilt for arguments, I’m not inclined to arguments and wouldn’t enjoy the sport of drawing anyone out for an argument. In the end, whether one believes Jesus is Michael or not, Salvation is of Christ Jesus alone: Only those who believe in Christ Jesus would have eternal life. 1 Like |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by DappaD: 7:29pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
Acehart: Yes I know Even the demons that believe God and Jesus exist will have eternal life, abi no be so? —James 2:19 |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by Acehart: 7:32pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
DappaD: The verse says the devils believe that God is one and not what you are writing up there to insult me! 1 Like |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by DappaD: 7:37pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
No no no—my intention wasn't and never is to insult anyone. I'm just trying to draw parallels here. If you say you believe in Jesus, there's no problem. I'm not trying to make you feel out of place. Indeed, “Jehovah knows those who belong to him”—2Timothy 2:19 So if Satan and the demons believe that God and Jesus exist, then there has to be a criteria someone must meet to be approved of God. That's all I'm saying. |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by elated177: 7:51pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
DappaD: Can you mention the criterion? |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by DappaD: 7:57pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
Simply put, the criteria is found in the Bible! That's why most people have this “Yeah, I believe in Jesus but I don't have any regard for the Bible and what the Bible says doesn't define me” attitude. A person who truly wants to worship the true God must agree 100% with the Bible as His inspired Word(2Timothy 3:16) and live his life in direct accordance with Bible standards.(Psalm 119:105) |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by Acehart: 8:25pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
DappaD: Praise the Lord! 1 Like |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by elated177: 8:26pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
DappaD: Dude, you set the premise of question. What is the relevance of this assertion: "That's why most people have this [b]“Yeah, I believe in Jesus but I don't have any regard for the Bible and what the Bible says doesn't define me” attitude. "[/b]? What are the Scriptural standards? |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by DappaD: 8:41pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
The Bible should be able to reflect in the person's thinking(Colossians 3:7-10), way of life(1Peter 1:16), style of worship(John 4:24), dealings with other human beings(Matthew 7:12, 22:39) and so much more. ‘What are Scriptural standards?’ is a rather broad question. Try narrowing it down to one single aspect. |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by DappaD: 8:44pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
Acehart: You mean Lord Baelish from Game of Thrones? |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by Emusan(m): 8:47pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
Barristter07:Yes Ooo ma se fun ee oo You people didn't address that verse but throwing tantrums. Did YAHWEH say "I YAHWEH, searches mind and heart? Did Jesus in Revelation say "I AM THE ONE searching mind and heart"? Even primary school pupils will understand that simple English. 1 Like |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by elated177: 8:52pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
DappaD: Don't just give quotations. Why don't you highlight them? Is it because I used "Scriptural"? Ok! Mention the Bible standards. |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by Emusan(m): 8:55pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: The point you're still deviating from is: YAHWEH says in Jeremiah that He searches minds and tests the hearts "I YAHWEH, searches the minds and tests the hearts...." Jesus in revelation didn't quote that Jeremiah but specifically to be the very person "I AM THE ONE who searches the mind and tests the heart... That's the point, but I know a brainwashed JWs won't see that! Besides, you didn't answer your own question again, why? At the angel of the Lord is called YAHWEH! 1 Like |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:00pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
DappaD: Jehovah's Witnesses are comfortable with what we believe and we're not soliciting their support because we're sure of father Abraham's blessings. It's all these scattered religionsists with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines that are trying to see if any of their illusions can be approved by JWs. They must know that with the "great chasm" none of our beliefs will be acceptable to Churchgoers as a whole unless individuals who are prepared to say goodbye to their falsehood, neither can any of their beliefs be acceptable to JW Organization unless individuals in our midst choose to say goodbye to the truth! Luke 16:24-26 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Is Michael The Christ? by DappaD: 9:05pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
What I gave is just a brief demonstration that will appeal to a honesthearted individual who's seeking truth.
Right now, I believe you're just acting cynical because whatever I say is not of any concern to you since you don't have any regard for the Bible. No problem, just go and worship your Yahveh the way you know best. 1 Like 1 Share |
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