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Does 1 Thessalonians 4:16 Prove That Jesus Is Michael The Archangel? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:29am On Sep 07, 2022
"Does 1 Thessalonians 4:16 prove that Jesus is Michael the Archangel?"

No, Jesus is not Michael the Archangel. Jesus is Michael's Lord and Maker.

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Re: Does 1 Thessalonians 4:16 Prove That Jesus Is Michael The Archangel? by Kobojunkie: 4:12pm On Sep 07, 2022
OLAADEGBU:
"Does 1 Thessalonians 4:16 prove that Jesus is Michael the Archangel?"

No, Jesus is not Michael the Archangel. Jesus is Michael's Lord and Maker.
The way una dey take read wetin dey these epistles dey give person the creeps big time. undecided
15 What we tell you now is the Lord’s own message. Those of us who are still living when the Lord comes again will join him, but not before those who have already died.
16 The Lord himself will come down from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. And the people who have died and were in Christ will rise first.
17 After that we who are still alive at that time will be gathered up with those who have died. We will be taken up in the clouds and meet the Lord in the air. And we will be with the Lord forever.
18 So encourage each other with these words. - 1 Thessalonians 4 vs 15 - 18
The verse clearly doesn't say the voice of the Lord who will come down is the voice of the archangel. Instead, you are told the loud command will be given, with the voice of the archangel, and the trumpet of God. undecided

Surely, anyone who has read even the parable of the 10 brides- or any of the other Parables spoken by Jesus Christ of His return - knows that it will not be the bridegroom announcing His own entry but a servant/herald doing so.
1. “At that time God’s kingdom will be like ten girls who went to wait for the bridegroom. They took their lamps with them.
2 Five of the girls were foolish, and five were wise.
3 The foolish girls took their lamps with them, but they did not take extra oil for the lamps.
4 The wise girls took their lamps and more oil in jars.
5 When the bridegroom was very late, the girls could not keep their eyes open, and they all fell asleep.
6 “At midnight someone announced, ‘The bridegroom is coming! Come and meet him!’
7 “Then all the girls woke up. They made their lamps ready. - Matthew 25 vs 1 - 7
And that Herald, the one with the voice, who also sounds the trumpet of God to boot, is most likely one of the archangels, something I believe is also described in John's book of Revelations. undecided
Re: Does 1 Thessalonians 4:16 Prove That Jesus Is Michael The Archangel? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:21pm On Sep 07, 2022
Kobojunkie:


The way una dey take read wetin dey these epistles dey give person the creeps big time. undecided
The verse clearly doesn't say the voice of the Lord who will come down is the voice of the archangel. Instead, you are told the loud command will be given, with the voice of the archangel, and the trumpet of God. undecided

Surely, anyone who has read even the parable of the 10 brides- or any of the other Parables spoken by Jesus Christ of His return - knows that it will not be the bridegroom announcing His own entry but a servant/herald doing so.
And that Herald, the one with the voice, who also sounds the trumpet of God to boot, is most likely one of the archangels, something I believe is also described in John's book of Revelations. undecided

And what is your summation. Do you believe that the voice who sounds the trumpet is Jesus? Do you believe that angel Michael is Jesus? undecided
Re: Does 1 Thessalonians 4:16 Prove That Jesus Is Michael The Archangel? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:23am On Feb 23, 2023
OLAADEGBU:
"Does 1 Thessalonians 4:16 prove that Jesus is Michael the Archangel?"

No, Jesus is not Michael the Archangel. Jesus is Michael's Lord and Maker.

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Re: Does 1 Thessalonians 4:16 Prove That Jesus Is Michael The Archangel? by Janosky: 7:17pm On Feb 23, 2023
OLAADEGBU:
"Does 1 Thessalonians 4:16 prove that Jesus is Michael the Archangel?"

No, Jesus is not Michael the Archangel. Jesus is Michael's Lord and Maker.

Explore this further at http://ow.ly/HfbY50KtPUk
Yes, he is.
1 Thessalonians 4:16 & John 5:28, whose voice resurrects the dead?
Jesus Christ of course!
PROVEN by these screenshots, Christendom has known this biblical truth that Jesus Christ is archangel Michael.
But hide the truth from their sheeples, because it is very inconvenient for their Trinity doctrine.

Re: Does 1 Thessalonians 4:16 Prove That Jesus Is Michael The Archangel? by AllenforGOD(m): 8:13am On Mar 02, 2023
Oga shut up and stop dragging the Name of Jesus into your Fallacy.
joshua 5:14 depicts michael as a warrior,the chief army commander of The Lord's<JESUS>army.
Jesus is Thesame as God<john 1:1-3,18,john 10:30,john 14:9-10,john 8:24,58>,or was it stated that michael is the Same as God?
By the mention of The Name Jesus Every Knee shall bow,both those in Heaven,on earth,under the earth.
And every tongue shall confess that Jesus<GOD>is Lord.
nt michael
Re: Does 1 Thessalonians 4:16 Prove That Jesus Is Michael The Archangel? by Janosky: 12:23pm On Mar 02, 2023
AllenforGOD:
Oga shut up and stop dragging the Name of Jesus into your Fallacy.
joshua 5:14 depicts michael as a warrior,the chief army commander of The Lord's<JESUS>army.


2 Thessalonians 1:8-9, Oga is Jesus a warrior?

Matthew 25:31, Oga is Jesus a warrior?
1 Thessalonians 4:16, Oga is Jesus a warrior?
Yahweh's Army @ Joshua 5:14,Oga correct yourself.

Your Trinitarian mentors have numerous commentaries on Joshua 5:14.
.
Oga, go & cure your delusion.
Re: Does 1 Thessalonians 4:16 Prove That Jesus Is Michael The Archangel? by Janosky: 12:40pm On Mar 02, 2023
AllenforGOD:

Jesus is Thesame as God<john 1:1-3,18,john 10:30
Greek John 1:1 & Greek John 10:30 was TWISTED by your Trinitarian mentors @ the Council of Nicene.
The evidence is PROVEN by these screenshots.

Are you not ashame to worship multiple deities ?grin grin.
Whereas Jesus Christ did not do that, John & Peter said so,@ John 20:17 ,Acts 3:13, John 9:4.
Jesus did not do that,even in heaven, Revelation 3:12.

AllenforGOD:


By the mention of The Name Jesus Every Knee shall bow,both those in Heaven,on earth,under the earth.
And every tongue shall confess that Jesus<GOD>is Lord.
nt michael
By the permission of God his Father, John 17:7 & Matthew 28:18, Jesus Christ said so.

Re: Does 1 Thessalonians 4:16 Prove That Jesus Is Michael The Archangel? by Janosky: 12:45pm On Mar 02, 2023
AllenforGOD:
Oga shut up and stop dragging the Name of Jesus into your Fallacy.
joshua 5:14 depicts michael as a warrior,the chief army commander of The Lord's<JESUS>army.
Jesus is Thesame as God<john 14:9-10,john 8:24,58>,or was it stated that michael is the Same as God?


John 14:9-10= John 17:18, PROVEN by Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ is not the same as the One God who sent him.
John 7:16,in the same manner the disciples can not be the same as the God whose doctrines Jesus is teaching.

Oga, stop deceiving yourself.
Re: Does 1 Thessalonians 4:16 Prove That Jesus Is Michael The Archangel? by AllenforGOD(m): 2:12pm On Mar 02, 2023
Janosky:


John 14:9-10= John 17:18, PROVEN by Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ is not the same as the One God who sent him.
John 7:16,in the same manner the disciples can not be the same as the God whose doctrines Jesus is teaching.

Oga, stop deceiving yourself.
john 1:1
Re: Does 1 Thessalonians 4:16 Prove That Jesus Is Michael The Archangel? by AllenforGOD(m): 2:35pm On Mar 02, 2023
undecided Sorry for your delusions
Re: Does 1 Thessalonians 4:16 Prove That Jesus Is Michael The Archangel? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:21pm On Mar 02, 2023
OLAADEGBU:
"Does 1 Thessalonians 4:16 prove that Jesus is Michael the Archangel?"

No, Jesus is not Michael the Archangel. Jesus is Michael's Lord and Maker.


Don't mind those jw devils.

The Bible did say that Christ is coming down with His Angels Mathew 25:31, so Michael is only one of those Angels and the ine who shouts hence "voice of the archangel".

Maybe he is also blowing a trumpet, maybe it is another angel or angels who is blowing a trumpet.

But clearly, The Lord is silent, for Kings do not shout; They only issue commands!

And most importantly, The Lord has His angels with Him and we are already foretold that Michael is an archangel. AND THE LORD, JESUS CHRIST, IS NOT AN ANGEL!

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Re: Does 1 Thessalonians 4:16 Prove That Jesus Is Michael The Archangel? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:36pm On Mar 02, 2023
Janosky:

Christendom has known this biblical truth that Jesus Christ is archangel Michael...

The Lord is not an Angel.

The Lord, is Lord and it is He Who gives commands to the Angels. Psalm 91:11 and they even worship Him Psalm 103:20.

So, you and your group are wrong!

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