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Re: Muslim Students Reject Oduduwa Republic by oyatz(m): 12:35pm On Oct 03, 2020
Ifesinachi22:
Just listen to yourself.

Fulanis are settlers and they became the king of the most important town in the state (Ilorin). Continue enslaving yourselves. A Yoruba Town with a Fulani king, only in Ilorin. To even remember the same north don't even see Yorubas as serious Muslims makes me sick
What exactly is your problem sir?
Why are you crying more than the bereaved?

There are so many towns/kingdoms with Traditional rulers that are not of Indigenous origins e.g

1) Spain and the ruling Bourbon Royal dynasty which is French origin
2) England/UK with the ruling Windsor Family (original name= Saxe-Coba Bortha) which is German origin.
3) Bini Kingdom with the reigning Oronmiyan which is of Ife origin.
4) Onitsha Kingdom with the reigning Ezechima dynasty originating from Bini
5) Kano, Zauzzau, Katsina ,Hadeiji and Daura' Emirates with the reigning dynasties being of Fulanis descent. The same things happened in Bida and Ilorin.

All these may not pose anything for these rulers if their subjects aren't complaining.
So why is it your problems sir?
Re: Muslim Students Reject Oduduwa Republic by wirelessmaster: 12:39pm On Oct 03, 2020
LukasPodolski:
Ilorin is ruled by Fulanis.

but other yoruba towns are ruled by Obas.

hence, saying Kwara is a Fulani land is rubbish..

Delta is not an Anioma state, it's a diverse state (consisting of different ethnic groups)

Kwara is not a fulani state it's a diverse state consisting of different ethnic groups) with Yorubas being the majority.

because Ilorin is being ruled by Fulanis does not mean there there are no Yorubas in Kwara.

because Asaba is being ruled by Aniomas does not mean there are no Urhobo itsekiri isoko Ijaw e.t.c in Delta.


N:B Ilorin is predominantly a Yoruba city, the fulani title is just figure head, you can't go to Ilorin and the speaking Fulani, because no one will understand you. if you think otherwise.

Oto Ge, the slogan that sent Saraki (Ibos role model) to political Oblivion is not a fulani phrase, it's a Yoruba phrase which means "enough is enough"

if kwara is a Fulani state as your master Nnamdi Kanu told you, don't you think the slogan should be fulani?

all the governors since democracy are Yorubas.
You misunderstood this guy. Because of Afonja which had become Igbo or IBO social media name for the Yorubas, if they mention Emir, he was only referring to Ilorin where nearly all the wealth of Kwara is invested leaving Igbomina and other lands underdeveloped. It is very hard and impossible to believe Emir is just a mere religious title when Olusola Saraki travelled to Sokoto to report Late Rear Admiral Lawal (Kwara Governor 1999 - 2003) to Maccido the then Sultan of Sokoto that he wanted to install Oba at Ilorin. Apart from Afonja descendants and Idi Ape people, most Yorubas in Ilorin claim they are Fulani at Abuja and in the North, when they come to Lagos, they claim Yoruba.

Of recent, Yorubas in Kogi and part of Kwara said they want to join South West. The Okun people and the Igbomina are welcomed. The Ilorin people with their Alfas are more deadly Muslims coming to empower MURIC and other Muslim organizations to scuttle Oduduwa Republic freedom. You are one of them.
Re: Muslim Students Reject Oduduwa Republic by wirelessmaster: 12:49pm On Oct 03, 2020
oyatz:
What exactly is your problem sir?
Why are you crying more than the bereaved?

There are so many towns/kingdoms with Traditional rulers that are not of Indigenous origins e.g

1) Spain and the ruling Bourbon Royal dynasty which is French origin
2) England/UK with the ruling Windsor Family (original name= Saxe-Coba Bortha) which is German origin.
3) Bini Kingdom with the reigning Oronmiyan which is of Ife origin.
4) Onitsha Kingdom with the reigning Ezechima dynasty originating from Bini
5) Kano, Zauzzau, Katsina ,Hadeiji and Daura' Emirates with the reigning dynasties being of Fulanis descent. The same things happened in Bida and Ilorin.

All these may not pose anything for these rulers if their subjects aren't complaining.
So why is it your problems sir?
Breaking down the history of the Royal families in Spain and UK which you mentioned will take a lot of space and time. It has nothing to do with Ilorin situation. Since Ilorin is not complaining, they should remain where they are and not scuttle Oduduwa Nation struggle with their Islamic mercenaries mission with their Islamic brothers in Yoruba land.

I don't know anything about how the Fulani became the ruler of Bida - Tapa people of Niger State, please, kindly give me a reference or link to Books or Historical materials on Bids.
Re: Muslim Students Reject Oduduwa Republic by King44(m): 1:02pm On Oct 03, 2020
No matter how they try to publicize this oduduwa of a thing, the fact remains that very few yorubas are in support while a lot are not in support because they still have hope that things would get better... But in few years if the country continues like this the agitation would get stronger.

Majority of the people in Kwara state are Yorubas while among them there are bastard Yorubas as well. People like Saraki and last PDP candidate in Kwara state

Yorubas are one even if you are in Togo, Benin or Brazil
Re: Muslim Students Reject Oduduwa Republic by NIGilliterate(m): 1:15pm On Oct 03, 2020
Amumaigwe:
@bolded:
In islam, both ethnic and religous offices are lumped together and is occupied by the Emir. That is why the Emir is the traditional ruler and also lead prayer (as a religious leader) in the mosque when present.

If it is even true that the emir is only a religious leader, are you saying that no Yoruba muslim is competent to rule over the teeming Yoruba Muslims in Kwara state?
they are first class slave and beg for food at the side of the road
Re: Muslim Students Reject Oduduwa Republic by LukasPodolski: 1:29pm On Oct 03, 2020
wirelessmaster:
You misunderstood this guy. Because of Afonja which had become Igbo or IBO social media name for the Yorubas, if they mention Emir, he was only referring to Ilorin where nearly all the wealth of Kwara is invested leaving Igbomina and other lands underdeveloped. It is very hard and impossible to believe Emir is just a mere religious title when Olusola Saraki travelled to Sokoto to report Late Rear Admiral Lawal (Kwara Governor 1999 - 2003) to Maccido the then Sultan of Sokoto that he wanted to install Oba at Ilorin. Apart from Afonja descendants and Idi Ape people, most Yorubas in Ilorin claim they are Fulani at Abuja and in the North, when they come to Lagos, they claim Yoruba.

Of recent, Yorubas in Kogi and part of Kwara said they want to join South West. The Okun people and the Igbomina are welcomed. The Ilorin people with their Alfas are more deadly Muslims coming to empower MURIC and other Muslim organizations to scuttle Oduduwa Republic freedom. You are one of them.
Truly, Governor Alabi Lawal, the then Governor of Kwara wanted to remove the Emir, but the idea wasn't successful not because of the caliphate but because of Obasanjo clampdown on ANPP/AD government, he was rigged out by Obasanjo.

Olusola Saraki ploy to involve the sokoto caliphate was just a mere political game, he knew his son Bukola stand no chance beside Lawal. At the end of the day Obasanjo rigged at all AD/ANPP governors in SW and Kwara except Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu.

Bukola Saraki is 100% Yoruba infact we learnt that the Saraki family migrated to Kwara from Abeokuta.

Let's think about it, Saraki speaks yoruba, bears a Yoruba name, married a Christian Yoruba woman and didn't convert her to Muslim.

Same with the last governor, Muslim man from ifelodun-Share, his wife omolewa Ahmed is a Deaconess, just imagine.

All the governor in Kwara since democracy are Yoruba, from Lawal to Saraki to Ahmed to the current one.

The current governor just resurrected one of Lawal's legacy, the "UP LAWAL" water project.

An average Ilorin man does not understand Fulani (infact I've never seen one speak it, the Fulani language is zero in Ilorin)


Secondly, The Yorubas in Kwara and Kogi are clamouring for merger with SW, yes, the reason why Ilorin might not be on the same page is because it's a very pig city, the 11 most populous city in Nigeria, things like this might not be in their agenda, coupled with contrary opinion since it's a very big city.

And saying the Ilorin people are fanatics is nonsense, sorry to say, the people in Ilorin are just like their SW brothers, I mean tolerance, educated e.t.c have you ever read in the papers about religion crisis in Ilorin? No.
For every mosque you see in Ilorin, you would see 10 churches.
The people might be very religious but not fanatics, they are peace loving people.
It's only in Ilorin that you're be seeing clubs, bars, brothels and other social joint everywhere without outcry from the locals.. can that happen In fulani dominated North? No
The non indeginous people in Ilorin are so free to the extent that people were attending clubs when everywhere was locked down during covid, what didn't happen in Lagos sef
https://www.thecable.ng/50-nightclub-attendees-arrested-in-kwara-transferred-to-isolation-centre/amp

Can people in North freely go to club even when there was no covid? Not to talk of when when everywhere was locked down.
That shows that the fulani influence is zero in Ilorin apart from the Emir title.
Go to GRA Ilorin, you would see what you wouldn't in Kano (I mean social life)


And saying Kwara South is underdeveloped is not true (I mean Nigerian standard of development, if you understand) though we've been marginalized. Offa is not that bad, I think. And the pace at which Omu-Aran is growing up is mind blowing.


If Saraki is fulani, don't you think the theme of his daughter's wedding should be fulani theme? Why Yoruba theme wedding, in the picture below?

The second picture is the abandoned UP LAWAL water project which the current governor is about to resurrect.

The only difference between the Yorubas in SW and Ilorin is religion, Christianity and Islam are evenly distributed, Ilorin on the other does not have INDEGINOUS christian, haven't seen one. Though.

Re: Muslim Students Reject Oduduwa Republic by joefelin2345: 3:09pm On Oct 03, 2020
LukasPodolski:
it's not only the Muslims, 99% of us in SW do not support the agitation.
Who are the 99% that you are referring to. You must be a Moroni or you are suffering from acute malaria fever.
Re: Muslim Students Reject Oduduwa Republic by JaffyJoe(m): 3:34pm On Oct 03, 2020
joefelin2345:
Who are the 99% that you are referring to. You must be a Moroni or you are suffering from acute malaria fever.
Very moronic guy.
Re: Muslim Students Reject Oduduwa Republic by Arist(f): 4:43pm On Oct 03, 2020
wirelessmaster:
I have been monitoring your foolish and very irrational comments. You can only confuse yourself and your employers. You started with Emir of Ilorin as a mere religious title. Previously, you made very absurd comments. My political opinions handle - BABAOLOFIN is currently suspended by nairaland, otherwise, I would have spared my time to respond to some foolish and useless comments and yours included.

Majority of the Yorubas directly and indirectly supported the creation of Oduduwa nation. If the North wants to leave Nigeria today, no region in the South will force them to remain, the South will be very excited and the North knows this, but they cannot leave. They need the South crude oil wealth, Sea Ports and Lagos markets to enrich themselves, develop the chad basin oil, railway networks to Niger Republic, roads network on very large and long distances, gas pipelines, agriculture, gas and hydro power generations and the Northern States economy. To do this, Nigeria has to be impoverished, backward and caged using their large unproductive population. They have to prevent the South from leaving them.The North knows the South South and South East are not happy being in Nigeria, they are using their Muslims in the West and Political dichotomy in Yoruba land to perpetually enslaved the South. The North can never allow the South East or South West to go individually, the South must be united to move out of this slavery. The North will try to prevent the united South using the Yoruba Muslims and politics. To the North, no part of South should leave until the developmental projects in the North are completed. To the South, the North can go.


. The problem is for South to leave, it is now a matter of life and death, a matter of Israelites leaving the Egyptians, a matter of slaves leaving the slave masters. No slave master ever wanted his slaves freed. No easy way to freedom. Some Israelites were comfortable being slaves to the Egyptians and they always blamed Moses while in the wilderness for taking them out of Egypt. The Muslims in Yorubaland are under the control of the Caliphate just as Emirs are also under the Caliphate. The Supreme Council for Sharia in Nigeria had an impossible ambition of introducing Sharia in Four States in the South West. Majority of the people in South West will resist them. These people (Muslims) and political contractors are too minute and very inconsequential to stop Oduduwa Republic.

You may be nairaland assigned person or the Muslim or government delegated person on this topic, you are just wasting your time.
You'll not die young, you'll not run mad, your brain will not be scattered in Jesus name, you said it all, may God bless you
Re: Muslim Students Reject Oduduwa Republic by Cityguy: 4:48pm On Oct 03, 2020
It is good to have expressed their view. However, whether they like it or not is less important in this case. Oduduwa republic is bound to happen however long it takes.
Re: Muslim Students Reject Oduduwa Republic by luluman: 6:50pm On Oct 03, 2020
wirelessmaster:
Nobody is coercing anybody to support Oduduwa nation freedom from slavery. Not all Israelites supported leaving Egypt, not all South Africans supported Mandela & Oliver Tambo to free South Africans from Apartheid at the beginning. We don't need your support.
Majority of Yorubas directly and indirectly supported Oduduwa Republic. No developmental decision because of unitary system of government. People are selling their ancestors land to eat, boys into Yahoo, girls into olosho, education means nothing, while corruption has become our characters.

60 years anniversary, Nigeria's Annual Budget is almost the same with University of California's Annual Budget. UCLA is not constructing roads or railway lines or providing Health care or Water resources or constructing gas pipelines, the University is not maintaining National Assembly budget, their budget is just for Education and Research, yet almost equal or at times more than Nigeria Budget.

We all know the solution.
Good mastery of history, but poor maintenance of ones domain. When did oodua or any group ask you to research on their wanting to secede or not. Leave other tribe alone fight your fight.
Re: Muslim Students Reject Oduduwa Republic by wirelessmaster:
LukasPodolski:
Truly, Governor Alabi Lawal, the then Governor of Kwara wanted to remove the Emir, but the idea wasn't successful not because of the caliphate but because of Obasanjo clampdown on ANPP/AD government, he was rigged out by Obasanjo.

Olusola Saraki ploy to involve the sokoto caliphate was just a mere political game, he knew his son Bukola stand no chance beside Lawal. At the end of the day Obasanjo rigged at all AD/ANPP governors in SW and Kwara except Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu.

Bukola Saraki is 100% Yoruba infact we learnt that the Saraki family migrated to Kwara from Abeokuta.

Let's think about it, Saraki speaks yoruba, bears a Yoruba name, married a Christian Yoruba woman and didn't convert her to Muslim.

Same with the last governor, Muslim man from ifelodun-Share, his wife omolewa Ahmed is a Deaconess, just imagine.

All the governor in Kwara since democracy are Yoruba, from Lawal to Saraki to Ahmed to the current one.

The current governor just resurrected one of Lawal's legacy, the "UP LAWAL" water project.

An average Ilorin man does not understand Fulani (infact I've never seen one speak it, the Fulani language is zero in Ilorin)


Secondly, The Yorubas in Kwara and Kogi are clamouring for merger with SW, yes, the reason why Ilorin might not be on the same page is because it's a very pig city, the 11 most populous city in Nigeria, things like this might not be in their agenda, coupled with contrary opinion since it's a very big city.

And saying the Ilorin people are fanatics is nonsense, sorry to say, the people in Ilorin are just like their SW brothers, I mean tolerance, educated e.t.c have you ever read in the papers about religion crisis in Ilorin? No.
For every mosque you see in Ilorin, you would see 10 churches.
The people might be very religious but not fanatics, they are peace loving people.
It's only in Ilorin that you're be seeing clubs, bars, brothels and other social joint everywhere without outcry from the locals.. can that happen In fulani dominated North? No
The non indeginous people in Ilorin are so free to the extent that people were attending clubs when everywhere was locked down during covid, what didn't happen in Lagos sef
https://www.thecable.ng/50-nightclub-attendees-arrested-in-kwara-transferred-to-isolation-centre/amp

Can people in North freely go to club even when there was no covid? Not to talk of when when everywhere was locked down.
That shows that the fulani influence is zero in Ilorin apart from the Emir title.
Go to GRA Ilorin, you would see what you wouldn't in Kano (I mean social life)


And saying Kwara South is underdeveloped is not true (I mean Nigerian standard of development, if you understand) though we've been marginalized. Offa is not that bad, I think. And the pace at which Omu-Aran is growing up is mind blowing.


If Saraki is fulani, don't you think the theme of his daughter's wedding should be fulani theme? Why Yoruba theme wedding, in the picture below?

The second picture is the abandoned UP LAWAL water project which the current governor is about to resurrect.

The only difference between the Yorubas in SW and Ilorin is religion, Christianity and Islam are evenly distributed, Ilorin on the other does not have INDEGINOUS christian, haven't seen one. Though.
Thanks for this very educative write up. I believed a lot of people did not know the situation at Ilorin apart from Alfas claiming superiority over one another and big Alfas declaring support for politicians. Thanks for this information.
Re: Muslim Students Reject Oduduwa Republic by leofab(f): 10:03pm On Oct 03, 2020
LukasPodolski:
is Someone from Warri Igbo?

most of you Igbos are just dumb.

ewu.
you are ignorant... Warri is a town and Asaba is a town and none has a Fulani leader,.. stop being senile
Re: Muslim Students Reject Oduduwa Republic by LukasPodolski: 10:11pm On Oct 03, 2020
leofab:
you are ignorant... Warri is a town and Asaba is a town and none has a Fulani leader,.. stop being senile
is Kwara a fulani state?
Re: Muslim Students Reject Oduduwa Republic by leofab(f): 11:29am On Oct 04, 2020
LukasPodolski:
is Kwara a fulani state?
its part of the fulani Hegemony with the capital being governed by an Emir..
Re: Muslim Students Reject Oduduwa Republic by Headachetoigboh(f): 8:49am On Jun 04, 2021
No wonder osu/ohu is still rampant in East, everything about them is slavery and buying ancestral land. Keep buying our ancestral land while yours is decaying. When we're done, we will send you back home.
Hahaha.
Even if u send them back home,can I maintain the structures they built there?

No oo
They have bigger house in the village compare to that trash in Lagos.

You are only waiting for what to inherit from igbos if they leave.
Lazy bones.


The inherited house will still decay cos u can't maintain it so who is fooling who

Agbays
Re: Muslim Students Reject Oduduwa Republic by orisa37: 9:30am On Jun 04, 2021
It's a lie. These are FUNAM INSURRECTIONED STUDENTS.
Re: Muslim Students Reject Oduduwa Republic by Oturatetuala(m): 9:51am On Jun 04, 2021
Let them leave oduduwa doesn't want them.... Niger delta forever because we move
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