Did Jesus Suffer Losses Because He Did Not Tithe?

Job who was said to be a perfect and upright man and there was no one like him in all the earth in his day. And this saying came from none other than God Himself when He proudly spoke of Job His servant to Satan.

Yet this is the same man a so-called "man of God" would say suffered losses and God didn't rebuke the devourer for his sake because he didn't tithe..

That's not the worst part, but that as glaring as the error of his idea is, there are yet some who are too blind to see it, but accepted it because of the saying about tithes in the book of Malachi.

If that be the case, then it's not impossible for the same person, David Oyedepo, to also say that Jesus suffered losses because He didn't tithe, and also use the teaching of tithing in the book of Malachi to justify it, and they'd also say, "yeah and amen!'

Because Oyedepo said there was no instance where Job was said to have tithed, and the same also applies to Jesus, as there was nowhere Jesus was shown to have tithed in the Bible, and He also suffered losses, as God didn't rebuke the devourer for His sake at some point.

In fact Jesus suffered more losses than Job did, as Jesus also lost His life, but Job didn't as God had warned Satan not to dare touch the life of Job.

So Jesus surely did suffer losses and didn't tithe, but did Jesus suffer losses because He didn't tithe?

Was it because He didn't pay tithes that God didn't rebuke the devourer for His sake?

It's safe to say that the answer to the above questions, answers the same questions about Job once and for all.

God bless.

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I see it as foolishness when some persons criticize people for what they have made up their minds to do cos life is all about making choices. If someone chooses to believe in tithing how does that affect another person when it's not your resources that is being used? U who doesn't believe nor practice it, how better are you than those u choose to insult? Even with our traditional religion, if someone goes to a shrine, he/she is expected to go with compulsory sacrifices or items to appease what he/she worships, how does that become the business of someone else who doesn't believe in that? Look, nobody places a gun on someone's head to pay tithe...infact so many church goers don't pay and their lives are still blessed while others who pay are too blessed to complain about tithing. Some will come with the narrative of giving their monies to the poor rather, but in reality they are the ones suffering from that poverty and the little some of them have goes to very bad social habits. Live and let's live, cos everybody cannot live life the same way.

OP, he was sent to the world to die for your sake and the sake of this your post, no come here to turn Bible upside down..


His death was already programmed from his birth, so tithing is never in the picture

OkuFaba:
OP, he was sent to the world to die for your sake and the sake of this your post, no come here to turn Bible upside down..


His death was already programmed from his birth, so tithing is never in the picture

Yet Jesus He had to fulfill all righteousness right?

Was tithing not part of that righteousness?

So if Job was said to have suffered losses because he didn't tithe, that should also apply to Jesus I think.

jesusjnr2020:
Yet Jesus He had to fulfill all righteousness right?

Was tithing not part of that righteousness?

So if Job was said to have suffered losses because he didn't tithe, that should also apply to Jesus I think.

does Buhari son pay tax??

Son of God no need pay tithe. Case closed

SmartProf:
I see it as foolishness when some persons criticize people for what they have made up their minds to do cos life is all about making choices. If someone chooses to believe in tithing how does that affect another person when it's not your resources that is being used? U who doesn't believe nor practice it, how better are you than those u choose to insult? Even with our traditional religion, if someone goes to a shrine, he/she is expected to go with compulsory sacrifices or items to appease what he/she worships, how does that become the business of someone else who doesn't believe in that? Look, nobody places a gun on someone's head to pay tithe...infact so many church goers don't pay and their lives are still blessed while others who pay are too blessed to complain about tithing. Some will come with the narrative of giving their monies to the poor rather, but in reality they are the ones suffering from that poverty and the little some of them have goes to very bad social habits. Live and let's live, cos everybody cannot live life the same way.

Wisdom is foolishness to the fools, so don't be surprised when you see speaking the Truth as Christ did as foolishness.

By the way, I'm not against tithing but just against what Jesus was against, which is to place it above the more important matters of the Law, hence making them to be of none effect.

OkuFaba:
does Buhari son pay tax??

Son of God no need pay tithe. Case closed

Yet Jesus paid tax. It's obvious, you don't have any idea what you're talking about.

jesusjnr2020:
Wisdom is foolishness to the fools, so don't be surprised when you see speaking the Truth as Christ did as foolishness.

By the way, I'm not against tithing but just against what Jesus was against, which is to place it above the more important matters of the Law, hence making them to be of none effect.

Leave religion and face your life... religion has not helped anyone in the world. People with zero impact to society will just be too obsessed about religious practices as though it brings them huge success.

SmartProf:

Leave religion and face your life... religion has not helped anyone in the world. People with zero impact to society will just be too obsessed about religious practices as though it brings them huge success.

Lol!

No wonder!

I was right!

Bye.

Who said Job suffered because he didn't pay his tithe?

Ehiscotch:
Who said Job suffered because he didn't pay his tithe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnHXAslZy-8

jesusjnr2020:
Yet Jesus paid tax. It's obvious, you don't have any idea what you're talking about.

tax is to GOVERNMENT as tithe is to church

jesusjnr2020:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnHXAslZy-8

I honestly do not have data to view this but I guess it is David Oyedepo. Sadly, the man got it wrong. The issue of tithing for him is probably as a means to achieve the church's target ( finance and all).

The man is a prosperity preacher, so I am not surprised he is prone to error in such matter.

Ironically, I attend his church services once in a while.

I like how you explained tithing on the other thread. I find it funny how such a simple issue is generating a lot of controversy; but then again, too many ignorant Christians.

Many don't even know the passage where Jesus explained tithing being lesser as compared to weightier matters like Justice and Mercy.

The church needs the tithes and offerings to run its finances and programmes but because of the tight fists of its members, the pastors have succumbed to the temptation of twisting the gospel to suit their needs or the needs of the church.

So they teach certain doctrine to raise funds to undertake innocent and selfless activities: roofing or renovation of the church, buying instruments and equipments, inviting ministers and running other programmes.

But take heed, in Christianity, the end never justifies the means. Never.

God will surely bring to judgement for every careless word a man utters and we will be justified by our words or condemned by them.

There is much to say but let us keep learning and taking correction for the days have drawn near.

He paid tax

OkuFaba:
tax is to GOVERNMENT as tithe is to church

If Jesus was subject to the Government laws, then He was also subject to the Laws of His land, Israel which includes tithing.

But He didn't pay tithes, yet paid taxes!

By the way, It seems you're one of those who believe the heresy that Job suffered losses because he didn't tithe.

jesusjnr2020:
If Jesus was subject to the Government laws, then He was also subject to the Laws of His land, Israel which includes tithing.

But He didn't pay tithes, yet paid taxes!

By the way, It seems you're one of those who believe the heresy that Job suffered losses because he didn't tithe.

Knowing how fragile the mind of many of us Christians are, try to make this less about Oyedepo as much as possible else many would see you as another Daddy Freeze.

For the sake of the sheep, just take on the doctrine, please.

Even if Jesus had paid tithes, it doesn't still justify the modern view of it.

Does your tithe move God? It is only a sign of your faith and Goodwill. I attend a church, the church has needs and it is required of me without any cajoling or manipulation to pay.

I can't wave my tithe card to God or ask him to bless me because of my works of Faith, no.

Remember what Elihu told Job?

Job 35:5-8
Look unto the heavens, and see; and behold the clouds which are higher than thou.

If thou sinnest, what doest thou against him? or if thy transgressions be multiplied, what doest thou unto him?

If thou be righteous, what givest thou him? or what receiveth he of thine hand?

Thy wickedness may hurt a man as thou art; and thy righteousness may profit the son of man.

Ehiscotch:


Knowing how fragile the mind of many of us Christians are, try to make this less about Oyedepo as much as possible else many would see you as another Daddy Freeze.

For the sake of the sheep, just take on the doctrine, please.

Bro thanks for your advise. But who cares what men think?

Should I not speak the truth because of what people might say?

There's a level of the Spirit you can't get to if you've not overcome that.

Jesus did that so and He would if He were here, so why shouldn't I?

Please be more concerned about what God thinks not men.

Thanks.

jesusjnr2020:
Bro thanks for your advise. But who cares what men think?

Should I not speak the truth because of what people might say?

There's a level of the Spirit you can't get to if you've not overcome that.

Jesus did that so and He would if He were here, so why shouldn't I?

Please be more concerned about what God thinks not men.

Thanks.

I completely understand but we should wary of those whose hearts desire God but can't get past the shackles of the wrong doctrines of these preachers.

I am just saying be gentle. Our goal is to bring many souls to light and the truth but being to blunt might turn many away.

Let's do it with love and understanding. God bless you.

Ehiscotch:


I completely understand but we should wary of those whose hearts desire God but can't get past the shackles of the wrong doctrines of these preachers.

I am just saying be gentle. Our goal is to bring many souls to light and the truth but being to blunt might turn many away.

Let's do it with love and understanding. God bless you.

I have heard you, but i'd yet say, be very careful not to be driven by the opinion of men or what they think because that has misled many.

You said something about me being seen as Freeze, and that I believe was not by accident. You obviously care about the opinion of men.

Jesus and John the baptist were more seen as much worse to the people of Israel than Freeze is to the church and her leaders, yet you know who they were in the sight of God.

Hence I ask you to be careful because the most important thing is what God think not man.

That's what inspires my actions.

God bless.

jesusjnr2020:
If Jesus was subject to the Government laws, then He was also subject to the Laws of His land, Israel which includes tithing.

But He didn't pay tithes, yet paid taxes!

By the way, It seems you're one of those who believe the heresy that Job suffered losses because he didn't tithe.

Here bawo?? wetin concern me,

jesusjnr2020:
I have heard you, but i'd yet say, be very careful not to be driven by the opinion of men or what they think because that has misled many.

You said something about me being seen as Freeze, and that I believe was not by accident. You obviously care about the opinion of men.

Jesus and John the baptist were more seen as much worse to the people of Israel than Freeze is to the church and her leaders, yet you know who they were in the sight of God.

Hence I ask you to be careful because the most important thing is what God think not man.

That's what inspires my actions.

God bless.

True. I really believe in what you are doing. There is a lot of soft pedalling of the gospel out there and the truth needs to be established regardless.

I do not care what men think but I was only concerned because there are many people who once you try to make them realise that their "infallible" pastor made a mistake or is not of God they just ignore every other thing you have to say.

I once told my boss that Oyedepo questioned the rationality of voting Buhari for second term on the altar and he completely disagreed, saying Men of God don't get involved in politics and Oyedepo would never say anything like that. Well, I guess he probably must have been aware by now.

Imagine him disregarding something so obvious and easily verifiable, how much more when I delve into deeper biblical doctrines and show him how his pastor was wrong here and there.

But it's not about Pastors for me but doctrines that are out there. Sadly, many popular pastors are backing this and their members feel anyone contradicting this is against the church, like Freeze. That's why I referenced him. I don't care what they think.

OkuFaba:
Here bawo?? wetin concern me,

You should honestly be concerned. There is always a time allotted for ignorance and grace. We shouldn't always have this "I don't care" attitude as Christians, we should be immersed in the word and cast down and aside every thing that is not of God.

I urge you to read Psalm 1