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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 8:24pm On Oct 07, 2020
earthrealm:


IF you are already going for central water heater, why not consider going for solar water heater, to save electricity.
comes with 200/300and 500liter tank capacity, and you are sure of hot water for 3days of poor weather/rainfall
no gas powered water heaters in naija

I must have a water heater.

Do you have leads on the solar water heaters?

Thanks.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by earthrealm(m): 8:29pm On Oct 07, 2020
n3xt:


grin

I’m not sure of what will happen when one uses a smaller generator to drive a bigger pump.

However, this is all I know about electric motors. It requires more power to start than to operate once they have started.
So, in the case of a 0.5hp submersible pump, a 2.5KW generator will be adequate to power it but I doubt the same generator will be adequate for 1 HP submersible pump even though it runs at 1 KW when it’s working.

I believe a 1hp pump would run better on 4 - 5KW generator than a 2.5KW generator.


#notabibeli

~ Talk to Professionals
better said now, its the gen will probablly burn not the pump, u mixed it up. all motors/pumps have startup surge and will draw 2x to 6x their rated power rating on startup

2ndly while it appears a smaller horsepower rated pump performs better than a bigger pump is cos of this same draw. if perhaps phcn voltage is at 160v, a 1/2hp pump will barely have any effect on the voltage on startup..perhaps it may drop to 145v for a few seconds during startup, but a bigger pump, say 2hp will drag the voltage to 120v or so, thus it would not be able to start and burn out

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:35pm On Oct 07, 2020
earthrealm:


is there anyone smaller than 0.5hp?. i have seen 1/3hp..ie 250w on aliexpress, but costs more to ship it in, the 250w has a flow head of 8gpm and 230ft head, do you know the specs of the 0.5hp by interdap?. at 8gpm, it implies it will take aprrox 1.5hrs to fill a 2000liter drum.

I’ve seen 1/3hp pump but I’ve not used it.

I can’t give the specs of interdab pump without consulting the product manual supplied.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:37pm On Oct 07, 2020
earthrealm:
better said now, its the gen will probablly burn not the pump, u mixed it up. all motors/pumps have startup surge and will draw 2x to 6x their rated power rating on startup

2ndly while it appears a smaller horsepower rated pump performs better than a bigger pump is cos of this same draw. if perhaps phcn voltage is at 160v, a 1/2hp pump will barely have any effect on the voltage on startup..perhaps it may drop to 145v for a few seconds during startup, but a bigger pump, say 2hp will drag the voltage to 120v or so, thus it would not be able to start

Succinctly put!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by earthrealm(m): 8:41pm On Oct 07, 2020
n3xt:


I’ve seen 1/3hp pump but I’ve not used it.

I can’t give the specs of interdab pump without consulting the product manual.

would be grateful if you can lay your hands on the specs and post here. i also got to know that ---- Decay is not linear, and a quality pump will give you charts showing flow for given depth/head.
so even though the 1/3hp pump i mentioned has a head of 230ft and 8gpm, its likely that it may output about 3gpm if installed at say 100ft, to pump to an overhead tank 40ft above the surface



EgunMogaji2:


I must have a water heater.

Do you have leads on the solar water heaters?

Thanks.

search on jiji/konga/jumia, also a renewable energy seller that advertises on this thread may have an idea cc: kiekie

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by multikolour(m): 8:48pm On Oct 07, 2020
[quote author=EgunMogaji2 post=94700047][/quote]thank you so much sir

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:52pm On Oct 07, 2020
earthrealm:


would be grateful if you can lay your hands on the specs and post here. i also got to know that ---- Decay is not linear, and a quality pump will give you charts showing flow for given depth/head.
so even though the 1/3hp pump i mentioned has a head of 230ft and 8gpm, its likely that it may output about 3gpm if installed at say 100ft, to pump to an overhead tank 40ft above the surface

search on jiji/konga/jumia, also a renewable energy seller that advertises on this thread may have an idea cc: kiekie

shocked shocked


This is from my 24V DC pump. 1.6gpm at 30m

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by earthrealm(m): 9:06pm On Oct 07, 2020
n3xt:


shocked shocked


This is from my 24V DC pump. 1.6gpm at 30m

So it produces that. At 30m?.
Have you measured?.

Here is a pic of the solar water heater

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 9:35pm On Oct 07, 2020
n3xt:


grin

I’m not sure of what will happen when one uses a smaller generator to drive a bigger pump.

However, this is all I know about electric motors. It requires more power to start than to operate once they have started.
So, in the case of a 0.5hp submersible pump, a 2.5KW generator will be adequate to power it but I doubt the same generator will be adequate for 1 HP submersible pump even though it runs at 1 KW when it’s working.

I believe a 1hp pump would run better on 4 - 5KW generator than a 2.5KW generator.


#notabibeli

~ Talk to Professionals

You are right, starting current is always double the running current remember that 1HP = 746W
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Pompoms(f): 11:21pm On Oct 07, 2020
Thank you very much, sir.
I'll try one of them and see how it goes. I hate rodents.

diordaves:


My product is VOSS. A colleague at work (pest control) confirmed the effectiveness of the attached brands.


People of God, what's the labour charge for internal and external plastering, please?
2-bedroom bungalow.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Pompoms(f): 11:47pm On Oct 07, 2020
Greetings, sir.
I'm no expert but I just feel all that space for a bar isn't necessary when you can just set up a beautiful, little bar cart in a corner in your dining area (or living room) and your laundry equipment(s) can be incorporated into the kitchen cabinetry if it isn't more than 2 front loaders.
Voila! A bigger kitchen.

xzibukz:
Hello everyone.
Pls kindly advise on the proposed floor plan, thanks.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Pompoms(f): 11:53pm On Oct 07, 2020
Cc xzibukz

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Donoppy(m): 1:32am On Oct 08, 2020
Can I get a trusted and tested carpenter here on this forum please ?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by shortgun(m): 1:39am On Oct 08, 2020
FlappaNozzle:


Topsy thanks for this questions

1. I used a tank stanchion. With three tanks.
2. The internal work were thick grey and green thick pvc pipes all through . ( Only God knows if it's thick, I wasn't there)
Pressure pump will definitely hit hard on that pipe work.


There is duplex in front and a twin rented flat behind ..the stanchion that serves all the building is behind. So I guess the pressure isn't sufficient due to the long run to the duplex in front hence some toilets are starved. I really don't know how to solve that problem.

The same same Duplex has wet walls downstairs. I got a plumber to come check it out, the guy broke walls claimed fixed it but walls is still wet and it's spreading.
The down flat behind does not get any pressure at all
It's tank is at middle of the Stachion, there seem to be enough head, but it seems there is a blockage somewhere. The tank takes time to fill up and tank goes down fast without occupants yet in the house. Though there are workers who use water ones in a while but that's not enough to consume that much water in such a short space of time.

Just multiples issues here and there...
Post pictures of the wet wall
Stanchion
Any visible joint of fresh water pipe and waste pipe.

Open up inspection chambers, septic tank and check if there's a steady flow in any of the chambers or septic tank.
Size of pipes,number of bends used for reticulation will determine pressure/flow rate..unfortunately, many people don't consider this, even architects, mech.engineers don't get this right most times.
Check for locked or stuck valves in the areas where there is no flow.....if valves handle is turning in any directions without stopping, it's most likely stuck in closed position.

There is really not much you can do on this on your own.
Get the services of a competent plumber..

Meanwhile, what happened to the plumber that did the job, he will be in the best position to make corrections, this will be hard for you but you will spend less with him than getting a new person.
Good luck.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by shortgun(m): 1:52am On Oct 08, 2020
EgunMogaji2:
I’m fixing to start a rough plumbing job and need to get up to speed on central water heater system.

Some questions:

1) I’m going to assume that electric is used here in Nigeria versus propane?

2) It’s going to be installed in the attic of a bungalow, any hints for this location?

3) What’s a good brand that marries efficiency with cost?

I wouldn’t mind seeing a sample install.

Thanks.

#WaterHeater

If power supply will be constant I will suggest you look in the direction of having the boiler on the ground and have a pump to circulate..
Note: Hot water pipework/reticulation is different from fresh water...consider type of pipe,insulation...e.t.c

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by shortgun(m): 2:08am On Oct 08, 2020
n3xt:


I hope this helps.

Pros and Cons of 0.5hp and 1hp Submersible Pump

1. Power Requirement: 0.5hp submersible pump will work even in situation where there’s low voltage. 1hp requires full current.


3. Usage



#personalopinion #notabibeli
This is wrong.
A pump rated for 230v 50Hz will require 230v to drive the electric motor shaft. Doesn't matter if it's 0.2hp,0.5hp or 20hp
Anything less will be inviting trouble.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:36am On Oct 08, 2020
shortgun:

This is wrong.
A pump rated for 230v 50Hz will require 230v to drive the electric motor shaft. Doesn't matter if it's 0.2hp,0.5hp or 20hp
Anything less will be inviting trouble.

Thanks for this. Now I know better.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 4:48am On Oct 08, 2020
Hello people,

I'm just curious ... can N38m to N40m ish deliver a top quality 5-bedroom duplex (on a 1.3m raft foundation) in today's money?

If not, what will be your rough estimate?

My numbers are:
4-boards Raft foundation incl oversight concrete ~ N5m
From foundation to roof ~N15m (i.e. complete carcass = 5m+15m = N20m)
Top level finishing ~ N15m

Of course we will be making proper plans including BOQ. It's early days yet, so just trying to play with some numbers.

Feel free to chime in with your thoughts, especially those currently building either as a client or contractor.
Location is Lekki.

Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:23am On Oct 08, 2020
megacontrol:
Hello people,

I'm just curious ... can N38m to N40m ish deliver a top quality 5-bedroom duplex (on a 1.3m raft foundation) in today's money?

If not, what will be your rough estimate?

My numbers are:
4-boards Raft foundation incl oversight concrete ~ N5m
From foundation to roof ~N15m (i.e. complete carcass = 5m+15m = N20m)
Top level finishing ~ N15m

Of course we will be making proper plans including BOQ. It's early days yet, so just trying to play with some numbers.

Feel free to chime in with your thoughts, especially those currently building either as a client or contractor.
Location is Lekki.

Thanks



I’d suggest you push up the budget for the finishing if you’re gunning for top level. (+10m)

- POP 1.5m
- Windows 1.5m
- Plumbing (Rough-in, Fittings/Fixtures) 2m
- Electricals (Wiring, Fittings/Fixtures) +1.5m
- Tiling +2.5m
- Doors 2m
- External Works +5m (Tank Tower, Flooring, Gate, Fence Wire etc)
- Cabinets/Balustrades etc 1.5m
- Smarthome Techs

- and a lot more!

Build Route: Owner-Managed

I’m currently building and all I can say is “It cost more to build today!”


_______
The carcass is good at N15m if it excludes windows, subframe, mechanical works, and plastering.
Some of my carcass normally include those stage of work.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 6:07am On Oct 08, 2020
shortgun:

If power supply will be constant I will suggest you look in the direction of having the boiler on the ground and have a pump to circulate..
Note: Hot water pipework/reticulation is different from fresh water...consider type of pipe,insulation...e.t.c

Thanks for your input.

There’ll be a 10Kva solar system. My aim is for the building to be off grid.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DFAMEGUY11S(m): 6:09am On Oct 08, 2020
DFAMEGUY11S:
laughing well calling me scammer whatever will not solve anything the issue between you and I Mr boyestic but no problem shall am here to make peace with you not trouble pls am sorry see whatever happened as mistake which will not happen again and the truth remain that I don't know that the tank broke, but that is not case now I have called your brother said he is not around pls if you can talk to him to send me the broken one at least on wednesday then let me find how change it thank you , and stop calling a scammer if I want to scam you I won't be here chatting with you or even give you my shop address okay 150k is too small for me to use it and be receiving all this curse and names have been give me but all is well they said customer is always right am sorry but I will be happy to receive it that Wednesday so on Friday you will receive good one and God help me that this one will get to your site safety
hello my fellow nairaland good morning, pls I has been ask boyestic to return the broken tank that he complained about since that day till now I didn't get any answer or respond from him or his brother I told them to return it on Wednesday so that tomorrow which is Friday I will waybill another one to them but his brother keep on saying next week, next week for goods that is not my own pls if there is any body that know him well let him or she help me talk to them thank you all

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olaleye2real(m): 6:37am On Oct 08, 2020
Morning house
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Johntemmy(m): 7:00am On Oct 08, 2020
Donoppy:
Can I get a trusted and tested carpenter here on this forum please ?

Am not a carpenter but a roofer.

we will surely handle it perfectly.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 7:39am On Oct 08, 2020
megacontrol:
Hello people,

I'm just curious ... can N38m to N40m ish deliver a top quality 5-bedroom duplex (on a 1.3m raft foundation) in today's money?

If not, what will be your rough estimate?

My numbers are:
4-boards Raft foundation incl oversight concrete ~ N5m
From foundation to roof ~N15m (i.e. complete carcass = 5m+15m = N20m)
Top level finishing ~ N15m

Of course we will be making proper plans including BOQ. It's early days yet, so just trying to play with some numbers.

Feel free to chime in with your thoughts, especially those currently building either as a client or contractor.
Location is Lekki.

Thanks


We built this for a client at Amity estate abijo , a 5bedroom duplex with indoor pool.
it's sitting on pile foundation 18m deep.
And we spent N36m , with fencing and other items of work , total cost amounted to
N40m.

So Yes 40m would erect a 5bedroom duplex

For the foundation budget N5.5- 6M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 9:27am On Oct 08, 2020
DFAMEGUY11S:
hello my fellow nairaland good morning, pls I has been ask boyestic to return the broken tank that he complained about since that day till now I didn't get any answer or respond from him or his brother I told them to return it on Wednesday so that tomorrow which is Friday I will waybill another one to them but his brother keep on saying next week, next week for goods that is not my own pls if there is any body that know him well let him or she help me talk to them thank you all
Oga waybill another to them, the broken one is not a pass book for the new one .

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sam1919: 9:31am On Oct 08, 2020
For those people who know so well about real estate, Someone is asking me to invest into his real estate business, and I get 30% of anything I invest every month for 6 months while my start up capital is still intact after the 6 months. For example I invest with 1M and I get 30% of 300k every month for 6 month, after the 6 months I still have my start up capital of 1M back.


How possible is this place, for those into real estate considering the weather condition, pandemic and government policy.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 9:40am On Oct 08, 2020
Thanks chief.

So if i get you correctly, you project:

Basic carcass (includes foundation & excludes those stages you listed) = N15m
Top level finish = N25m

If yes, still brings us to +/- N40m.

Not bad IMO.


n3xt:


I’d suggest you push up the budget for the finishing if you’re gunning for top level. (+10m)

- POP 1.5m
- Windows 1.5m
- Plumbing (Rough-in, Fittings/Fixtures) 2m
- Electricals (Wiring, Fittings/Fixtures) +1.5m
- Tiling +2.5m
- Doors 2m
- External Works +5m (Tank Tower, Flooring, Gate, Fence Wire etc)
- Cabinets/Balustrades etc 1.5m
- Smarthome Techs

- and a lot more!

Build Route: Owner-Managed

I’m currently building and all I can say is “It cost more to build today!”


_______
The carcass is good at N15m if it excludes windows, subframe, mechanical works, and plastering.
Some of my carcass normally include those stage of work.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:42am On Oct 08, 2020
DFAMEGUY11S:
hello my fellow nairaland good morning, pls I has been ask boyestic to return the broken tank that he complained about since that day till now I didn't get any answer or respond from him or his brother I told them to return it on Wednesday so that tomorrow which is Friday I will waybill another one to them but his brother keep on saying next week, next week for goods that is not my own pls if there is any body that know him well let him or she help me talk to them thank you all

Dude, ship a categorical proven in new condition merchandise to your client that has trusted you with his hard earned money. Ask him to help you deliver the old one to a shipper and you pay shipping when he gets to you.

He had posted that he doesn’t want refund from you. Personally I don’t really patronize from this thread and this shenanigan reenforces why.

@Boyestic, please consider giving him an opportunity to fix his missteps.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:44am On Oct 08, 2020
sam1919:
For those people who know so well about real estate, Someone is asking me to invest into his real estate business, and I get 30% of anything I invest every month for 6 months while my start up capital is still intact after the 6 months. For example I invest with 1M and I get 30% of 300k every month for 6 month, after the 6 months I still have my start up capital of 1M back.

How possible is this place, for those into real estate considering the weather condition, pandemic and government policy.

Are you abroad based or local?

TBills are single digit. How the heck is he going to pay that much percentage? Unless I’m not getting the calculations.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 9:46am On Oct 08, 2020
sam1919:
For those people who know so well about real estate, Someone is asking me to invest into his real estate business, and I get 30% of anything I invest every month for 6 months while my start up capital is still intact after the 6 months. For example I invest with 1M and I get 30% of 300k every month for 6 month, after the 6 months I still have my start up capital of 1M back.


How possible is this place, for those into real estate considering the weather condition, pandemic and government policy.
look impossible

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:57am On Oct 08, 2020
PSA: DON’T CRY OVERSPILLED MILK

Before you engage anyone on this thread please be sure to do your due diligence. Research the name / names. Email active members and ask the vendor for referrals.

The true judge of a business is not how they behave when things go right, but it’s when things go wrong.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 9:59am On Oct 08, 2020
Pascal2016:
Imo State, along Owerri Onitsha Road, Mbaitoli.Thats the location of the land.
ok

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