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Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by Christistruth00: 3:32pm On Oct 07, 2020
proeast:

Trash! Only royalty fees can be paid after 99 years. Once a land is sold, it is sold!!
Stop hoping to reap where you did not sow and go hustle like the Igbos.This attitude of looking for how to steal other people's sweat is disgusting. Tufiakwa!




It is in the Constitution and it is the same in Alaigbo if you sell your father's land it will revert to his heirs after 99 years. It was put in the Constitution to make sure no Tribe could be dispossessed of their ancestral heritage.

Land rent is paid every year of the 99 year leasehold to the Landowners. Royalties ( Land rent) is paid because the Land doesn't belong to you.

Even in the Bible the Jews never sold ancestral lands they could lease it or give loyal foreigners who settled among them land but they could not sell it .

In NIgeria it is the protection mechanism by which the rich are prevented from dispossessing the poor of their ancestral Lands and heritage and to keep the larger Tribes from dispossessing smaller tribes of their ancestral Land.


Proeast Think about this:
If a Northern Politician loots the national treasury and through some crooked Eze's and corrupt uncles buys your entire village and they use the money to drink Sapele Water (Christ forbid) your Children will still get the village back after 99 years because it is part of their ancestral inheritance.

Africans value their ancestral Lands even above money.
Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by Baba419(m): 3:46pm On Oct 07, 2020
SaintBishop:
At least I'm not yeboooo grin

It's not too late to change your ways cry
Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by Proeast2: 4:07pm On Oct 07, 2020
vicenzo:
IPOB senseless unity begging really gave this minorities a false sense of importance.

Its time Igbo nationalist rejected IPOB false representation of Ndiigbo and tear these minorities sense of importance to us to shreds with cold truth and exposure to reality.

I like what I am seeing on this thread.

Its either Igbo only country or we remain in Nigeria until the oil dries up. A tower of Babel country with irreconcilable minorities in.SS is a big No for Ndiigbo.
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It's not an option at all. If IPOB don't understand and fine tune their struggle to reflect this Igbo nationalist view, they would never gain full support in Igboland.

We say a big NO to ethnically heterogeneous Biafra. And a big Yes to Igbo only Biafra!
Let the dead bury themselves biko!

Honestly, at first, I used to overlook the false sense of importance of these minorities until recently.
I have taken it as a personal task to be knocking sense into their empty heads.

Imagine these minorities feeling funky. Who in his right senses will advocate for such a Babel society to join Igbos in Biafra. So, others would exploit their oil for over 50 years when oil was hotcake and use the proceeds to develop Abuja and Lagos, only for them to handover the world's most polluted environment with frustrated inhabitants to us shocked shocked No, we are smarter than that grin grin

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Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by Sinzumoney: 4:11pm On Oct 07, 2020
SaintBishop:
At least I'm not yeboooo grin
Which tribe are you say with proudly. What have your tribe produced or ever done that is good
Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by Proeast2: 4:27pm On Oct 07, 2020
Christistruth00:




It is in the Constitution and it is the same in Alaigbo if you sell your father's land it will revert to his heirs after 99 years. It was put in the Constitution to make sure no Tribe could be dispossessed of their ancestral heritage.

Land rent is paid every year of the 99 year leasehold to the Landowners.

Even in the Bible the Jews never sold ancestral lands they could lease it or give loyal foreigners who settled among them land but they could not sell it .

In NIgeria it is the protection mechanism by which the rich are prevented from dispossessing the poor of their ancestral Lands and heritage and to keep the larger Tribes from dispossessing smaller tribes of their ancestral Land.


Proeast Think about this.
If a Politician loots the national treasury and through some crooked Eze's and corrupt uncles buys your entire village your Children will still get the village back after 99 years because it is part of their ancestral inheritance.



What are you even arguing? If you check my signature you will see that I'm into estate management and I'm informed about this issue. That law is based on the 1978 land use act. Once a land owner sells a land, that land is forever gone except for one reason or another you're able to buy it back in the future, and of course with the new owner willing to sell it back to you. The 1978 land use act stipulated that all lands are under the authority of state governments. After 99 years, it is the state government that the buyer will pay royalty/renewal fees to and not the original seller. The buyer no longer has any business with him!

Does it even make sense to you that someone will buy a virgin land and develop it only for the previous owner to reclaim it after 99 years shocked shocked

My brother, please go and hustle like the Igbos so you can buy your own properties. It is only a criminal that will be hoping to take back a land he sold and collected money for.

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Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by vicenzo(m): 4:28pm On Oct 07, 2020
Proeast2:


Honestly, at first, I used to overlook the false sense of importance of these minorities until recently.
I have taken it as a personal task to be knocking sense into their empty heads.

Imagine these minorities feeling funky. Who in his right senses will advocate for such a Babel society to join Igbos in Biafra. So, others would exploit their oil for over 50 years when it oil was hotcake and use the proceeds to develop Abuja and Lagos, only for them to handover the world's most polluted environment with frustrated inhabitants to us shocked shocked No, we are smarter than that grin grin

It happened because many Igbo nationalist kept quiet until IPOB vocal minority voice assumed the voice of Ndiigbo.

If you run referendum in Igboland today, majority would choose Nigeria over a mini Nigeria with these minorities.

Its either Igbo only country or we stay in Nigeria and finish the oil together.

Its about time Ndiigbo make our voice known. Left for IPOB , they will eat shit and drink urine from these minorities as well as denigrate Ndiigbo in their misguided pursuit of doomed tower of Babel ethnic heterogeneous Biafra!

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Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by Proeast2: 4:36pm On Oct 07, 2020
BrownLondon:

I'm not Igbo, just trying to be sarcastic.

Now sarcasm aside, don't you think you guys are losing it? Especially with these chest beating stuffs, mostly on things are not FAR from truth?

Today if you guys are not buying 90% of Lagos, then it's 90% of Port Harcourt e.t.c why always you guys?
These claims are ridiculous, nawa oo.
Even despite the population of Indians in U.A.E, the population of Indians triple that of UAE original citizens, you would never hear/see indians make ridiculous statements of buying % of UAE land.. there are over 3million Indians in UAE doing business in various fields.

Nawa oo

Typical of Yorubas, you claimed to be Igbo a few threads above just to throw shades but when you're exposed you start saying another thing. I swear you Yorubas will never change. Tufiakwa!

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Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by Christistruth00: 4:52pm On Oct 07, 2020
Proeast2:


What are you even arguing? If you check my signature you will see that I'm into estate management and I'm informed about this issue. That law is based on the 1978 land use act. Once a land owner sells a land, that land is forever gone except for one reason or another you're able to buy it back in the future, and of course with the new owner willing to sell it back to you. The 1978 land use act stipulated that all lands are under the authority of state governments. After 99 years, it is the state government that the buyer will pay royalty/renewal fees to and not the original seller. The buyer no longer has any business with him!

Does it even make sense to you that someone will buy a virgin land and develop it only for the previous owner to reclaim it after 99 years shocked shocked

My brother, please go and hustle like the Igbos so you can buy your own properties. It is only a criminal that will be hoping to take back a land he sold and collected money for.


You just confirmed you don't know Nigerian Land Law. You buy Land on a 99 year Leasehold.

On Lagos Island even the Land Purchased by the Colonial government and held by Federal Govt [Ikoyi] was repossessed after 99 years by the Onikoyi Royal family who were the Original landowners of Ikoyi.

Except the landowners let you renew the lease by paying for the land again.

Why do you think those with Abandoned properties in Port Harcourt after the War were unable to reclaim the properties through the Courts? The Rivers State Government(Owner ) revoked the claims on the land

The State Government only holds the Land in Trust for the Original landowners.


So you don't know that it is because of the 1978 land law that your Villagers have the right to chase Fulani herdsmen off land they have paid for and return the money? It is a leasehold which can be revoked!


How would you like it if Buhari looted the National Treasury and bought all of Imo State with a 99.5% discount and on Freehold for himself his tribe and his descendants sold by Gov Hope Uzodima after guaranteeing Uzsodima a 2nd term in Office ( Christ forbid) On leasehold as the original landowners you can revoke the Sale



Do you think that desperate greedy Governors wouldn't sell their half their States on Freehold for a 2nd term in Office.

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Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by Eastlink(m): 5:03pm On Oct 07, 2020
Sinzumoney:
please stop calling me ipob and read the thread we are basically talking about the same thing
Ok, no problem.

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Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by SaintBishop: 5:15pm On Oct 07, 2020
Sinzumoney:
Which tribe are you say with proudly. What have your tribe produced or ever done that is good
A tribe better than yours.

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Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by Sinzumoney: 6:07pm On Oct 07, 2020
grin
SaintBishop:
A tribe better than yours.
you're ashamed to post your tribe grin
SaintBishop:
A tribe better than yours.
you're ashamed to post your tribe

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Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by BigSarah(f): 6:40pm On Oct 07, 2020
Hmm
Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by Proeast2: 6:41pm On Oct 07, 2020
Christistruth00:



You just confirmed you don't know Nigerian Land Law. You buy Land on a 99 year Leasehold.

On Lagos Island even the Land Purchased by the Colonial government and held by Federal Govt [Ikoyi] was repossessed after 99 years by the Onikoyi Royal family who were the Original landowners of Ikoyi.

Except the landowners let you renew the lease by paying for the land again.

Why do you think those with Abandoned properties in Port Harcourt after the War were unable to reclaim the properties through the Courts? The Rivers State Government(Owner ) revoked the claims on the land

The State Government only holds the Land in Trust for the Original landowners.


So you don't know that it is because of the 1978 land law that your Villagers have the right to chase Fulani herdsmen off land they have paid for and return the money? It is a leasehold which can be revoked!


How would you like it if Buhari looted the National Treasury and bought all of Imo State with a 99.5% discount and on Freehold for himself his tribe and his descendants sold by Gov Hope Uzodima after guaranteeing Uzsodima a 2nd term in Office ( Christ forbid) On leasehold as the original landowners you can revoke the Sale



Do you think that desperate greedy Governors wouldn't sell their half their States on Freehold for a 2nd term in Office.




I hate blind argument. I repeat, once a land is sold, the buyer has no business with the seller again. The land now belongs to him and is totally irreversible except you want to buy it back and the new owner is willing to resell to you. However, after 99 years, the buyer will then apply to the state government for renewal, HE WILL NOT APPLY TO THE ORIGINAL OWNER!! So, tell me how you will repossess the lands you sold after 99 years?

Check information below

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Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by awgumayor: 6:44pm On Oct 07, 2020
Sinzumoney:
I don't know how to use emoji on this app unless i would have put clapping. Imagine people that their land has been destroyed by oil think we want them soo who is going to clean the oil spill? Us with our own money because oil is almost useless if we don't do it they will start shouting marginalization if we tarr road in our side they will start shouting marginalization let them go with their brothers in cultism we don't want them
After Hausa/Fulani and Yoruba have finished eating Igbo will come and clear the tables with his hard earned soap and rag. Never ! Let those who served them the food (oil) clear the table.

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Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by SaintBishop: 6:51pm On Oct 07, 2020
Sinzumoney:
grin you're ashamed to post your tribe grin you're ashamed to post your tribe
Why should i tell a fool like you where i'm from?
on this thread you are busy boasting with your smelling mouth how yeboos don't want south south people in your fraud republic (as if south south people ever ask you to including them in your fake republic in the first place)

On the other thread you are busy crying how the ijaw will dominate ikwerrers in their niger delta republic.

Now tell me why should i tell a igbo criminal like you where i'm from?

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Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by Christistruth00: 6:52pm On Oct 07, 2020
Proeast2:


I hate blind argument. I repeat, once a land is sold, the buyer has no business with the seller again. The land now belongs to him and is totally irreversible except you want to buy it back and the new owner is willing to resell to you. However, after 99 years, the buyer will then apply to the state government for renewal, HE WILL NOT APPLY TO THE ORIGINAL OWNER!! So, tell me how you will repossess the lands you sold after 99 years?

Check information below


The Land title remains with the Original landowners. The State Government hold s Land only as a Trustee of the Original Owners.
Omoniles in Lagos are reclaiming land from expired leaseholds almost daily.

That is what has kept the Lagos White Cap Yoruba Awori Chief's stupendously Wealthy. Imagine one family (Oniru) owning almost all the Land of Victoria Island ,which by the way was repossessed from the Federal government after the lease acquired by tbe British in the 1880s expired.
Another Family (Aromire )owns Isale Eko a d half of Lavos Island . Another family Owns Ikeja

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Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by Proeast2: 7:03pm On Oct 07, 2020
Christistruth00:



The Land title remains with the Original landowners. The State Government hold s Land only as a Trustee of the Original Owners.
Omoniles in Lagos are reclaiming land from expired leaseholds almost daily.

That is what has kept the Lagos White Cap Yoruba Awori Chief's stupendously Wealthy. Imagine one family (Oniru) owning almost all the Land of Victoria Island which by tbe way was repossessed from the Federal government after the lease acquired by tbe British in the 1880s expired.


Show me examples of where lands/buildings were taken over from any Nigerian after 99 years? Mind you that foreigners are exempted.
Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by Proeast2: 7:09pm On Oct 07, 2020
Christistruth00:



The Land title remains with the Original landowners. The State Government hold s Land only as a Trustee of the Original Owners.
Omoniles in Lagos are reclaiming land from expired leaseholds almost daily.

That is what has kept the Lagos White Cap Yoruba Awori Chief's stupendously Wealthy. Imagine one family (Oniru) owning almost all the Land of Victoria Island ,which by the way was repossessed from the Federal government after the lease acquired by tbe British in the 1880s expired.
another Family Aromire owns Isale Eko, Another family Owns Ikeja


You see where you're making mistake. Foreigners are not legally permitted to own lands in Nigeria and that was why the Federal government could repossess it. Show me any example where lands bought by Nigerians were repossessed after 99 years.

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Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by Christistruth00: 7:09pm On Oct 07, 2020
Proeast2:


Show me examples of where lands/buildings were taken over from any Nigerian after 99 years? Mind you that foreigners are exempted.


All of Ikoyi ,Victoria Island, Apapa, lagos Island ,Ojora ,many more they had to repay for another 99 year leasehold or the buildings were taken over and demolished

The indigenous Omonile Landowner families of Lagos are so stupendously wealthy and the Land still belongs to them.!

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Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by awgumayor: 7:15pm On Oct 07, 2020
Sinzumoney:
assuming Someone doesn't know anything about the east like the Hausa or Yoruba he can easily differentiate between Ibibio ijaw Kalahari itshekeris amd others because they have their own language and culture but you see ikwerre they bear our names they speak Igbo (they just changed some few words) they wear Igbo dress yet they say they not Igbos nobody will even listen to them if you want to truly break away from Igbos then form your language form your own culture stop copying from Igbos stop bearing our names and that day nobody will ever identify you as Igbo but as long as you don't do it the ikwerre will always be seen as Igbo everywhere except in PH that is the truth whether you like it or not
In the physical mind Ikwerre are Igbos, they have Igbo DNA in them. Their culture, language, dressing, food etc are similar to Igbo's, but in the spiritual aspect they are not Igbos, because the day they denied being Igbo was the day the Spiritual bond was broken. For instance, if a man disowned his son he will still have the DNA of the family, but the spirit of the family is no longer with him. Every spiritual aspect of Igbos is no longer with Ikwerres that's why you can't compare them with Igbos in human endeavors. Any day they come together and ask for forgiveness and acceptance the spiritual bond will reconnect and they will be competing with the rest of Igbos. If you take closer look at them you will be surprise to know that there is a different between those accepted their Igboness among them.

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Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by Proeast2: 7:19pm On Oct 07, 2020
Christistruth00:



All of Ikoyi ,Victoria Island, Apapa, lagos Island ,many more they had to repay for another 99 year leasehold or the buildings were taken over and demolished

The Omonile families of Lagos are so stupendously wealthy

I asked you to show me just any example where lands/buildings was reclaimed after 99 years yet you can't.

You claim it is happening everywhere yet you can't show even one example.

I even gave you facts about the law here only for you to be talking about oniru and omonile whatever. Is the oniru or omonile greater than the law?

I'm done with this argument because it's obvious you have lost it.

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Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by Christistruth00: 7:28pm On Oct 07, 2020
Proeast2:


I asked you to show me just any example where lands/buildings was reclaimed after 99 years yet you can't.

You claim it is happening everywhere yet you can't show even one example.

I even gave you facts about the law here only for you to be talking about oniru and omonile whatever. Is the oniru or omonile greater than the law?

I'm done with this argument because it's obvious you have lost it.

I just did (All of old Lagos built before 1920 )but your ego needs to be put in check.

Sorry to upset you but the Land Use Act of 1978 Protects the rights of Minorities and other Ethnic groups to their ancestral Lands. After 99 years leasehold it is theirs again . The State Govt holds the land in Trust for them.

It is not all about hustling. Even God lead the Israelites to a promised Land that flowed with milk and honey after they had hustled for 400 years in Egypt.

Besides won't you be in Biafra by the time the 99 year leasehold expires . Why are you fighting over the Nigerian land leasehold period ?
Thank God you realised you lost the argument completely.

https://iclg.com/practice-areas/real-estate-laws-and-regulations/nigeria

https://www.google.co.uk/url?q=https://nairametrics.com/2020/08/18/what-happens-after-the-expiration-of-the-99-years-lease-term-for-land/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwi50cqTxaPsAhWwRBUIHRHNAz4QFjAAegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw20C6mhdCSGUD7kltvB0u14
Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by Sinzumoney: 7:38am On Oct 08, 2020
SaintBishop:
Why should i tell a fool like you where i'm from?
on this thread you are busy boasting with your smelling mouth how yeboos don't want south south people in your fraud republic (as if south south people ever ask you to including them in your fake republic in the first place)

On the other thread you are busy crying how the ijaw will dominate ikwerrers in their niger delta republic.

Now tell me why should i tell a igbo criminal like you where i'm from?
What concerns me about ijaw dominating the ikwerre am I one? just say your tribe and by proud of it stop being ashamed

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Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by SaintBishop: 7:55am On Oct 08, 2020
Sinzumoney:
What concerns me about ijaw dominating the ikwerre am I one? just say your tribe and by proud of it stop being ashamed
Like i said i don't tell fools where i'm from.

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Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by valirex: 9:32am On Oct 08, 2020
Elvictor:
thank God, don't touch any of our states. RIVERS State, Akwa Ibom State, Edo State, Bayelsa State, Cross Rivers, Delta State.

we wan use am form our Niger Delta Republic

Bro nice comment but Ẹdo will like to be a Sovereign Kingdom. Peace
Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by Sinzumoney: 9:48am On Oct 08, 2020
valirex:


Bro nice comment but Ẹdo will like to be a Sovereign Kingdom. Peace
they should ask the Yorubas first for permission
Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by Sinzumoney: 9:53am On Oct 08, 2020
SaintBishop:
Like i said i don't tell fools where i'm from.
You're ashamed of your tribe

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Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by valirex: 9:55am On Oct 08, 2020
Sinzumoney:
they should ask the Yorubas first for permission

We don't ask anyone for permission
Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by Elvictor: 12:01pm On Oct 08, 2020
valirex:

Bro nice comment but Ẹdo will like to be a Sovereign Kingdom. Peace
peace out! you can stay outside Niger Delta, and form Republic of Edo
Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by valirex: 12:18pm On Oct 08, 2020
Elvictor:


peace out! you can stay outside Niger Delta, and form Republic of Edo

Don't act like the IPOB you call land grabbers. Ẹdo is Sovereign, it's not compulsory to be a part of a people
Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by Elvictor: 12:22pm On Oct 08, 2020
valirex:


Don't act like the IPOB you call land grabbers. Ẹdo is Sovereign, it's not compulsory to be a part of a people

am re-instating your statement, you said Edo is sovereign it doesn't need a union.

and I helped you to picture the sovereignty properly as a country and you are here wailing like an afonja.
my people migrated from Benin...so peace out!
Re: Igbos Don't Need And Want SS In Biafra by NaijirianKing: 12:38pm On Oct 08, 2020
Interesting.

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