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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:58am On Oct 09, 2020
charlesemeka85:
the 2 current super eagles players who are good enough for the English snr national team are ndidi and osimhen and i doubt they will be regulars
Osimhen won't be a regular because of Kane obviously... But abeg,which England DM is better than Ndidi??

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 10:59am On Oct 09, 2020
Danielnino00:
I really don't know what to call this poster..
Either he is an over jubilant arsenal fan,an ignorant fellow or one of those people who simply don't like the country...
He is probably over jubilant. Arsenal fans have always clamour for a physical MF so Partey is just a bit of fresh air. In fact,Sangare and Soumare were under consideration too.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:00am On Oct 09, 2020
Danielnino00:

Osimhen won't be a regular because of Kane obviously... But abeg,which England DM is better than Ndidi??
southgate will prefer rice to ndidi
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:01am On Oct 09, 2020
charlesemeka85:
southgate will prefer rice to ndidi

Because Southgate doesn't have sense or what? cheesy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:01am On Oct 09, 2020
charlesemeka85:
Iorfa is good for the super eagles but i bliv d nff re still mad at him n the dad for turning us down few yrs ago

Make we Dey see

They are not against iorfa because he isn’t good but they are against iorfa because komekn sabi praise am

The is just the fact

I am no fan of iorfa and I prefer ajayi ekong and akpoguma to anyone for now
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:02am On Oct 09, 2020
mostob:
He is probably over jubilant. Arsenal fans have always clamour for a physical MF so Partey is just a bit of fresh air. In fact,Sangare and Soumare were under consideration too.

His comments under the posts suggest something else...

Make arsenal fans calm down o...
grin grin
No guarantee yet that Partey won't flop.....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by temi1290: 11:03am On Oct 09, 2020
barackodam:



Stop intentionally twisting the conversation to suit you.

Ajayi debuted for us in the championship when we were low on options. Our team was filled with carpenters.

Now, not so much. We all cried here when Ekong was going to championship because we don't want second division player in the squad.

In the team, we're not as short on options as we are when Ajayi debuted. There are respected war generals, you don't push them out away immediately you see a better player. You also don't expect Omeruo to be getting call ups from second division while we have Jordan and Felix, not discounting Kevin.

Again, Ekong, Balogun, Omeruo have not played in second division all their lives. They have played in first divisions, in fact, we didn't have any player in second division last season. All our defenders played top flight.

We are not as short on options as we were when Ajayi debuted, why should we call Dom?
Wasn't it here last season we all were excited and praying for West Brom to get promoted to EPL? Because we want our players to be playing in the first division.
Wasn't it here we all believed Omeruo would leave Leganes and go to a first even struggling division club?
Wasn't it here we were complaining about Ekong going to play in the championship?


All of a sudden, you want us to call up a player who has never seen the light of the day inside any top division. If he's so good, and considering his English passport, he should get himself a move.

Y'all should drop dragging us backwards. We can not be praying for our players to get promoted to first division, and then because it suits you guys, you're asking us to call up one guy comfortable playing in the second division. angry angry angry angry angry

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:05am On Oct 09, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Make we Dey see

They are not against iorfa because he isn’t good but they are against iorfa because komekn sabi praise am

The is just the fact

I am no fan of iorfa and I prefer ajayi ekong and akpoguma to anyone for now

U keep mentioning Komekn...
Is Iorfa the only player Komekn has praised here?
Didn't u see people clamouring for Adarabioyo too? Didn't Komekn praise him too? undecided

Help us tell Komekn to tell Iorfa to move away from the championship...
Bar Ajayi,none of our current CBs have spend majority or their careers in second division leagues..
Even Omeruo the journeyman played mostly in the Turkish first division...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by temi1290: 11:09am On Oct 09, 2020
andrewbaba44:


He is a good player but he won’t make England team

If you ask me to list my 11 for today game I will put him as my right back


Sure,I'm not even disputing that, Ebuehi can't make the English team PRESENTLY
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:13am On Oct 09, 2020
Danielnino00:


U keep mentioning Komekn...
Is Iorfa the only player Komekn has praised here?
Didn't u see people clamouring for Adarabioyo too? Didn't Komekn praise him too? undecided

Help us tell Komekn to tell Iorfa to move away from the championship...
Bar Ajayi,none of our current CBs have spend majority or their careers in second division leagues..
Even Omeruo the journeyman played mostly in the Turkish first division...

cheesy

Our current cb are better than iorfa no doubt

Same Turkey you people always insult maybe you might not be among ,I was thinking I am the only one who value the Turkish 1st División here

Omeruo played for boro thou
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:15am On Oct 09, 2020
Danielnino00:


It seems like you don't understand me..

Players based in Europe aren't the same with those born in Europe..

Osimhen, Iheanacho, Chukwueze are based in Europe but they are a product of our football system...
Ekong,Aribo, Aina,etc were born abroad,are based abroad and are a product of a foreign football system..

Of course ,there's nothing wrong in having foreign born players in our national team as long as they have the quality to improve the team.. but if it gets to a stage where our national team is overfilled with foreign born players because the home grown players aren't good enough, then it would be had for us...
We need to put more effort into developing our sports sector..

Lots of talents are wasting away here..


Developing our sports sector can augment the quality of talent and raise the bar. Nevertheless, they will still have to prove themselves in Europe the same way the foreign born players are proving themselves.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DABIGATRAN(m): 11:16am On Oct 09, 2020
temi1290:



At least Awaziem should be a player that is guaranteed to come off the bench during Porto matches even if he can't tie down a starting shirt,that how we know a player that will become a starter once the player that keeps him on the bench moves to a bigger team, Zaidu did it even with World class Alex Tellex at the club.

Awaziem is a below average player
You may be right about Awaziem's situation at Porto, but the Sanusi-Telles analogy unfortunately does not add up.
Porto bought Sanusi to replace Telles outrightly. It also remains to be seen how the Sanusi-Porto relationship would augur in the long run.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:17am On Oct 09, 2020
Icon4s:


Oga, this is a different case. 95% of the French national team players are groomed in France.
We should also groom players in Nigeria.

Football development is what we are talking about. I don't have any problems with foreign groom players, but we should also groom players locally for foreign export and for the national team.

We are already doing the bolded. Don't you think so?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:18am On Oct 09, 2020
temi1290:



Sure,I'm not even disputing that, Ebuehi can't make the English team PRESENTLY

Say dstv go show our game ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:22am On Oct 09, 2020
Subzero047:


Netherlands are managing with Dumfries, if they have a chance to snatch Ebuehi they will do it without hesitation

Dumfries don improve small sha but still an average player ,he sabi score goals thou

No be hateboer be first choice ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:30am On Oct 09, 2020
tbaba1234:


Okoye is the default first choice at the moment since Uzoho and Akpeyi are out. Rohr talked about Yakubu starting one of the games. Alampasu might also get some minutes.

Why? Is he better?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by temi1290: 11:31am On Oct 09, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Where did I said we need División 2 players ?

Where did I said he should he called up immediately ,I said If he does well he can get a look

Those ones should be available first Oga , omeruo Balogun and awaziem ,the scape goat might come from these ones once those ones agree to play for naija

So what then has been ur argument since,u reminded us of the time we called division 2 players to the team and u were given a valid explanation as to y they were called THEN,y were u disturbing us with all this 'u guys are hypocrite' talk.

Even if he does well,it might be too late for him because those division one players are already in the process of being 'available'(Torunarigha for instance has started his switch process), because by then,the team vice captain who plays in the same league that Iofa plays might even be in a battle to save his National team spot,if this new additions gets to do better than him.Of course I see players like Omeruo Awaziem getting dropped anytime soon
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Olulong(m): 11:31am On Oct 09, 2020
Danielnino00:
I really don't know what to call this poster..
Either he is an over jubilant arsenal fan,an ignorant fellow or one of those people who simply don't like the country...

Seems he has deleted it. Seems he's suffering from Amnesia, I wanted to goan remind him if there was any move bigger than Osimhen's own this transfer window
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DABIGATRAN(m): 11:32am On Oct 09, 2020
Danielnino00:


The French team is filled with French players of African heritage born in France and are a product of French football system...
The French are just reaping the rewards for their own hardwork ..
The reverse is the case for Nigeria...we are reaping another country's hard work...
Our sports administrators need to do more...
Football,and sports in general is one very important sector that can reduce poverty and crime rates among youths in this country...
I agree with you on all the points except our sports administrators doing more. It is a given that our sports administrators have not been alive to their responsibility of ADMINISTRATION but the issue of sports infrastructure is almost totally an index of the level of advancement of the country. You can't expect a country where the roads are in a gory state, government hospitals are lacking in the most basic of tools, schools are pseudo- game reserves, access to portable water is a pipe dream, railway infrastructure are in a shambles, and so on to suddenly have basic sports infrastructure.
It would benefit us to peruse the UNDP HDI rankings to see where those South American countries some of us ignorantly compare Nigeria with are.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 11:33am On Oct 09, 2020
Danielnino00:

Osimhen won't be a regular because of Kane obviously... But abeg,which England DM is better than Ndidi??

Lingard even got call ups for years, even Eric Dier and Winks are England regulars but Aribo won't get a game for England
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 11:35am On Oct 09, 2020
Chukwueze will get into the England squad as back up to Sancho, even Ryan Sessegnon made it

Make una no dey overhype England abeg

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:35am On Oct 09, 2020
smartsmith0907:


Yes that's true but rohr wants to use this match to boost okoye's confidence
You should rohr always know his squad.okoye will definitely start I also think that ajayi will start ahead of agu embarassed

Sentiment at play. Performance in training means nothing to Rohr based on what you wrote here.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:35am On Oct 09, 2020
Olulong:


Seems he has deleted it. Seems he's suffering from Amnesia, I wanted to goan remind him if there was any move bigger than Osimhen's own this transfer window

The post is still there o..

Trust Nigerians na..they have dealt with him grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Olulong(m): 11:36am On Oct 09, 2020
Danielnino00:


We are talking about foreign born players not players based abroad...

Brazil, Argentina, USA,etc have quality football infrastructure to develop their players...they don't need another country to do it for them like in the case of Nigeria..

Our football infrastructure is a mess !
From the grassroot to the professional level...

I think there's just an obsession sef with anything foreign, see Algeria and Morocco with way better facilities than us and way better league but thier national team is 90% FB or they probably don't talents like we in the west
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by temi1290: 11:39am On Oct 09, 2020
mostob:
my brother, i tire o. That guy is absolutely good.


I don't think so,if he is 'absolutely good' a descent team would have broken the bank to save him from the shackles of Porto since they don't want to lower their asking price for him.Jovic for example was snapped up by Madrid after an exceptional season on loan to eintranct frankfurt from Benfica I think,RB liepzieg just recently signed a player that was on loan at Trabzonspur from an English club can't really remember, something scoloth is his name.

That's what I consider as "absolutely good"
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Olulong(m): 11:39am On Oct 09, 2020
Mention one England DM better than Ndidi. Is it winks, Dier,Rice??

If Hudson Odoi, Lingard, Fabian Delph can get called up, Chukwueze and Iwobi sef for get call up grin
charlesemeka85:
the 2 current super eagles players who are good enough for the English snr national team are ndidi and osimhen and i doubt they will be regulars

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:40am On Oct 09, 2020
Subzero047:


Lingard even got call ups for years, even Eric Dier and Winks are England regulars but Aribo won't get a game for England

English football is mostly overrated jare...

England would have whitewashed us the last time we faced them if they were that good...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:43am On Oct 09, 2020
Olulong:


I think there's just an obsession sef with anything foreign, see Algeria and Morocco with way better facilities than us and way better league but thier national team is 90% FB or they probably don't talents like we in the west

Algeria and Morocco have talents o...it's evident in the performance of their clubs at continental games...

Maybe it's obsession with foreign things...
I wonder why they can't emulate their neighbor Egypt...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by temi1290: 11:48am On Oct 09, 2020
charlesemeka85:
Coach Gernot Rohr has said he will pick the country’s best players no matter where they were born after critics slammed him for a preference for players born overseas.

German coach Rohr has been in charge of three-time African champions Nigeria for the past four years during which time he has capped a growing list of players, who were born abroad.

Such players include Rangers midfielder Joe Aribo, Semi Ajayi of West Bromwich Albion, who were born in England; Tyronne Ebuehi of FC Twente, who was born in Holland, and Sparta Rotterdam goalkeeper Maduka Okoye, who was born in Germany.

Nigeria face Algeria and Tunisia in friendly matches tonight and next week Tuesday with Rohr again set to cap Kevin Akpoguma, who was born in Germany and has represented his adopted country at various age-group levels, as well as Cyriel Dessers, who has opted to play for the Super Eagles even though he was born in Belgium.


Maduka Okoye, born in Germany, saves in Eagles training
Rohr, who qualified Nigeria to the 2018 World Cup in Russia and has been rewarded with a new contract till June 2022, has maintained the quality of the player and not whether he was born in Nigeria or overseas will remain the first consideration in his team selection.



“We don’t take into account where a player was born before he is invited. We only look at the quality of the player,” maintained the coach.

“It doesn’t matter where they were born, it only matters how well they can play.

“I don’t know the player who is born in Europe and who is born in Nigeria.

“All the players are proud to be with the team. These players say I want to play for my fatherland.”

Rohr further gave the example of Hoffenheim defender Kevin Akpoguma, who is set to make his Nigeria debut against Algeria Friday night after he was cleared by FIFA to change international allegiance this week.

Akpoguma captained Germany to eliminate Nigeria at the 2015 U20 FIFA World Cup in New Zealand, but he has since opted to play for the west Africans after Rohr scouted him for the past two years.

“Akpoguma was born close to Mannheim in Germany, his father is from Benin City,” Rohr said.

“He said he will be proud to play for Nigeria, but he has already played for Germany.

“He told me it will be wonderful if Nigeria played against Germany at the World Cup.

“He is 100% Nigerian, but his heart is also a little bit where he was born.



“You cannot say that because he was born abroad that he is not a Nigerian.

“What is important is that these players want to play for us.”


It's not Rohr's fault our homegrown players are not working hard enough to better their FB counterpart,it's also not his fault that our grassroots football are not doing enough to produce players that will give the FB's a run for their money.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:03pm On Oct 09, 2020
Olulong:


I think there's just an obsession sef with anything foreign, see Algeria and Morocco with way better facilities than us and way better league but thier national team is 90% FB or they probably don't talents like we in the west

This is false. It is not 'obsession.'

Inspite of the standard of their leagues and facilities, almost all of their players are based in Europe.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:03pm On Oct 09, 2020
Danielnino00:
I really don't know what to call this poster..
Either he is an over jubilant arsenal fan,an ignorant fellow or one of those people who simply don't like the country...

The talk wey that guy talk pain me sha
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:04pm On Oct 09, 2020
Subzero047:


Lingard even got call ups for years, even Eric Dier and Winks are England regulars but Aribo won't get a game for England

Aribo won’t get because he is playing for rangers ,you should know england won’t call a player from the Scottish league nah

Winks and Eric dier are crappy players and not even up to ndidi level

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