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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ObaIgwe1: 7:37pm On Oct 10, 2020

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AbdulSleeky: 8:04pm On Oct 10, 2020
farem:


I wish you have been thrown away in a soakaway. We for no dey hear this nonsense



Is this supposed to be a sensible argument?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sexylassie2(f): 8:21pm On Oct 10, 2020
Timiofak:


Shebi it's her body, leave her alone na? Is it your body? You just keep proving why abortion should be left for the person to decide

How are you sure if there was no abortion she wont have 8kids. Are you the one that wants to pay there bills ?, feed them ? Buy them devices ? No you are not. And to make matters worst you are against the government bailing them out, lmao you ask for a woman that got over abortion, plenty very plenty. Why do you think more women support the pro choice movement? Its there life, government shouldn’t determine what they do tho there bodies because of God, and why i am even angry sef is the people you are supporting are hypocrites

Trumps campaign senior advicer jason miller, confessed in court that impregnated a prostitute and drugged her without her knowledge with mistoprostol, its and abortion drug. Can you see you are not supporting pro life, you are supporting stupid men that want to control women.

Maybe you arent a woman afterall. Because any woman with half a brain should see the whole agenda.

I am not suprised.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sexylassie2(f): 8:21pm On Oct 10, 2020
Timiofak:


Lmao, someone would just open her mouth waaaah and be saying nonsense. Abeg I am not the one that would be teaching you economics you should have learnt in high school

only an idiot would say Africa is socialist, here in Nigeria, mention one thing the government gives us?

abeg no even worry, enjoy your ignorance.

Everything
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timiofak(m): 8:23pm On Oct 10, 2020
sexylassie2:


Everything

Lmao, either you are joking or you truly living in an alternate universe

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sexylassie2(f): 8:26pm On Oct 10, 2020
Liberalism aka communists plot

The Authoritarian Personality by Theodore Adorno

Quote from the book

the compromise for reducing the number of individuals rating high on the "F-scale" (Fascism) was prescriptions to undermine traditional Western concepts of the family (such as through feminism), end corporal punishment, and promote sexual depravity (homosexuality, transgenderism, etc) more aggressively.

Gay Rights and Pedophilia

Advocacy for legalizing pedophilia is nothing new in post-war Western nations. Influential Jewish and homosexual intellectual and cultural leaders like Allen Ginsburg, Jacques Derrida, Michel Foucault, Hakim Bey, Daniel Cohn-Bendit, Gabriel Matzneff, et al --fueled by Jewish anti-fascist hysterics and the theories of Reich, Freud, and Adorno -- openly promoted sex with small children as an act of liberation -- unimaginable in 2020.

Groups like NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association) were generally accepted as fellow travelers in the "LGBT" movement of its time and were members of mainstream gay advocacy organizations like the International Gay and Lesbian Alliance (ILGA). In the UK, the Pedophile Informational Exchange was also involved with gay activism. The Netherlands, France, Germany and other liberal states all had parallel above-ground groups dedicated to lowering or abolishing the age of consent, sometimes embraced by mainstream political organizations like the German Green Party (which for years was represented by Daniel-Cohn Bendit in the European Parliament).
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 8:39pm On Oct 10, 2020
CoronaVirusRelo:
If you really feel like laughing, you need to watch this. grin grin grin grin grin

https://twitter.com/i/status/1314735506182283266

The difference is clear, Trump have really made a mess of the office of presidency

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AbdulSleeky: 8:39pm On Oct 10, 2020
sexylassie2:
Liberalism aka communists plot

The Authoritarian Personality by Theodore Adorno

Quote from the book

the compromise for reducing the number of individuals rating high on the "F-scale" (Fascism) was prescriptions to undermine traditional Western concepts of the family (such as through feminism), end corporal punishment, and promote sexual depravity (homosexuality, transgenderism, etc) more aggressively.

Gay Rights and Pedophilia

Advocacy for legalizing pedophilia is nothing new in post-war Western nations. Influential Jewish and homosexual intellectual and cultural leaders like Allen Ginsburg, Jacques Derrida, Michel Foucault, Hakim Bey, Daniel Cohn-Bendit, Gabriel Matzneff, et al --fueled by Jewish anti-fascist hysterics and the theories of Reich, Freud, and Adorno -- openly promoted sex with small children as an act of liberation -- unimaginable in 2020.

Groups like NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association) were generally accepted as fellow travelers in the "LGBT" movement of its time and were members of mainstream gay advocacy organizations like the International Gay and Lesbian Alliance (ILGA). In the UK, the Pedophile Informational Exchange was also involved with gay activism. The Netherlands, France, Germany and other liberal states all had parallel above-ground groups dedicated to lowering or abolishing the age of consent, sometimes embraced by mainstream political organizations like the German Green Party (which for years was represented by Daniel-Cohn Bendit in the European Parliament).

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timiofak(m): 8:39pm On Oct 10, 2020
sexylassie2:
Liberalism aka communists plot

The Authoritarian Personality by Theodore Adorno

Quote from the book

the compromise for reducing the number of individuals rating high on the "F-scale" (Fascism) was prescriptions to undermine traditional Western concepts of the family (such as through feminism), end corporal punishment, and promote sexual depravity (homosexuality, transgenderism, etc) more aggressively.

Gay Rights and Pedophilia

Advocacy for legalizing pedophilia is nothing new in post-war Western nations. Influential Jewish and homosexual intellectual and cultural leaders like Allen Ginsburg, Jacques Derrida, Michel Foucault, Hakim Bey, Daniel Cohn-Bendit, Gabriel Matzneff, et al --fueled by Jewish anti-fascist hysterics and the theories of Reich, Freud, and Adorno -- openly promoted sex with small children as an act of liberation -- unimaginable in 2020.

Groups like NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association) were generally accepted as fellow travelers in the "LGBT" movement of its time and were members of mainstream gay advocacy organizations like the International Gay and Lesbian Alliance (ILGA). In the UK, the Pedophile Informational Exchange was also involved with gay activism. The Netherlands, France, Germany and other liberal states all had parallel above-ground groups dedicated to lowering or abolishing the age of consent, sometimes embraced by mainstream political organizations like the German Green Party (which for years was represented by Daniel-Cohn Bendit in the European Parliament).


Lmao oh my God and its liberals that keep shouting against pedophilia and rape.

Omo nothing dey your head ma, just enjoy

You no kuku dey vote. So enjoy.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 8:43pm On Oct 10, 2020
CoronaVirusRelo:
If you really feel like laughing, you need to watch this. grin grin grin grin grin

https://twitter.com/i/status/1314735506182283266
Trump..always talking like that dumbest kid in class grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 8:45pm On Oct 10, 2020
Bluebyrd:


The commission on presidential debates needs to be scrapped, they have lost all credibility. They are now just like every other relic of the washington swamp that does not serve the people.
Why can't toddler in the White House just cancel the USA so that he can always have his way.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 8:47pm On Oct 10, 2020
sexylassie2:


All these people you mentioned are in control of enforcing the communist plan with their money.

Bezos- cheap labor workers
Bill gates- wants to vaccinate everyone when what he really wants is population control.
Mark Zuckerberg-suppression of freedom of speech
George soros-sponsor of the communist plan, sponsored of all radical liberalism politics, liberalism in the real sense is communism.
Bloomberg-wants to centralized global financial systems so that it will be easy for the elites to deplatform those who don't agree with them.

Thanks to Bill Gates --- you will still be using black slate to learn how to read and write ---

Also do you have a facebook account where you post your sunday best photos for your many boyfriends?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ZooOga: 8:49pm On Oct 10, 2020
I checked a couple of pages in this thread but didn't see this article posted.

Politics
Trump got a $21 million tax break for saving the forest outside his N.Y. mansion. Now the deal is under investigation.

By Joshua Partlow, Jonathan O'Connell and David A. Fahrenthold

Oct. 9, 2020 at 8:35 a.m. EDT

Five years ago, Donald Trump promised to preserve more than 150 acres of rolling woodlands in an exclusive swath of New York suburbia prized for its luxury homes and rural tranquility.

In exchange for setting aside this land on his estate known as Seven Springs, Trump received a tax break of $21.1 million, according to court documents.

The size of Trump’s tax windfall was set by a 2016 appraisal that valued Seven Springs at $56.5 million — more than double the value assessed by the three Westchester County towns that each contained a piece of the property.

The valuation has now become a focal point of what could be one of the most consequential investigations facing President Trump as he heads into the election.


New York Attorney General Letitia James (D) is investigating whether the Trump Organization improperly inflated the value of Seven Springs as part of the conservation easement on the property, according to filings in the case in August. The investigation also scrutinizes valuations, tax burdens and conservation easements at Trump’s holdings in Los Angeles, Chicago and New York City.

Trump’s son Eric, who now helps run the Trump Organization, sat for a deposition in the case Monday.

What do we now know about Trump’s tax returns?
The Washington Post’s David A. Fahrenthold analyzes the latest revelations about President Trump’s tax returns and what it reveals about his finances.
The Seven Springs appraisal, obtained by The Washington Post, appears to have relied on unsupported assertions and misleading conclusions that boosted the value of Trump’s charitable gift — and his tax break, according to two independent appraisers who reviewed the document at The Post’s request.

The appraisal was written by Cushman & Wakefield, a commercial real estate firm that has worked with Trump over many years and whose New York City headquarters are in a building co-owned by Trump.

The firm established the value of the 212-acre estate by assuming a future buyer could build and sell 24 mansions on the land, without providing evidence that such a subdivision would meet local regulations. Over two decades, Trump himself tried to build on Seven Springs — first a golf course and later various housing developments — but the projects were stymied amid local opposition and environmental disputes.

The appraisal also claimed the land preserved under the easement had no economic value of its own, which one independent appraiser described as “crazy.” The tax break is calculated by subtracting the value of the conserved property from the value when it could be developed.

“This is not a good appraisal, and it’s misleading, and it’s thin as all get out,” said the first independent appraiser, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to preserve relationships in the industry. “What you get is appraised values for these 24 hypothetical lots that appear to be much higher than they ought to be.”

If the conservation easement transaction were ever litigated, the appraiser said, “they’d tear it apart.”

A spokesman for Cushman & Wakefield said: “We do not comment on ongoing litigation.” One expert who reviewed the appraisal at The Post’s request said he thought the firm did a “competent” job.

The Trump Organization’s chief legal officer, Alan Garten, said that he could not comment on the Seven Springs appraisal or respond to specific allegations made by James’s office because the investigation is ongoing but that “the allegations are categorically untrue.”

In a statement last month, Garten accused James of “continued harassment of the company as we approach the election.”

“This investigation is all about politics,” he added.

The president’s taxes and financial dealings are also part of a separate inquiry by Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. (D). Vance has offered less detail in court documents than James, citing grand-jury secrecy. A three-judge panel in a federal appeals court Wednesday ruled that Vance can enforce a subpoena that seeks financial documents from Trump, including his tax returns.

In addition to the conservation easement tax break, Trump in 2014 also classified Seven Springs as an investment property, rather than a personal residence, and wrote off $2.2 million in property taxes as a business expense, the New York Times recently reported.

Trump’s family members have described the home as a family retreat in the past, and the Trump Organization’s website still characterizes Seven Springs that way.

“Today, Seven Springs is used as a retreat for the Trump family,” the website says.

If it has been used as a rental property, it hasn’t brought much financial return, at least recently. On the public financial disclosures Trump is required to file annually as president, he said Seven Springs has produced only between $5,000 and $10,000 in total income since 2015.

Neither the James nor Vance investigation may make much headway before the election, according to legal experts. But both appear to be issues the president and his family will have to deal with whether he wins in November or not.

Lake manor
Seven Springs, with its 60 rooms and three swimming pools, has become a prime example of how Trump found tax benefits even in projects where he failed to achieve his original vision.

The home was built in 1919 by Eugene Meyer, former owner of The Washington Post. The pink sandstone manor house was designed in the style of a French chateau, and it is perched over Byram Lake, a reservoir for the area. The property was eventually passed on to Yale University and then to Rockefeller University, which used it as a conference center.

Trump bought the property in 1995 for $7.5 million with the intention of transforming it into an exclusive private golf course, with a stately clubhouse and luxury residences nearby, according to Trump’s public statements at the time.

But Trump’s building plans never came to fruition.

His project was met with stiff resistance from neighbors and local officials who worried about traffic problems as well as environmental degradation, according to planning documents obtained through a public records request and news coverage at the time. Many feared that chemicals from the golf course would pollute Byram Lake and taint drinking water for the nearby village of Mount Kisco. Trump also faced a complicated tangle of planning rules, as the property is spread over three neighboring towns: Bedford, North Castle and New Castle.

By 2004, the Trump Organization had given up on the golf course and instead proposed building 15 homes, which Trump described to the New York Times at the time as “super-high-end residential, the likes of which has never been seen on the East Coast.”

But his subdivision plans also bogged down amid local opposition and a multiyear legal battle in which Trump sued to gain access to a closed portion of a local road that ran through an adjacent Nature Conservancy preserve.

Even Trump’s personal lawyer Marc Kasowitz, who happened to live directly across the street from Seven Springs, at one point sent a letter to the Bedford planning director to voice concerns that headlights from the construction site would shine into the family home “where they frequently entertain.”

“Please note that their mail box has recently been knocked down on two separate occasions by speeding vehicles on Oregon Road,” an attorney at Kasowitz’s firm wrote on his behalf in the 2008 letter, obtained through a public records request.

Kasowitz did not respond to a request for comment.

In one bizarre episode from 2009, Trump rented out Seven Springs to the Libyan dictator Moammar Gaddafi, who was in New York for the United Nations General Assembly. Gaddafi’s staff pitched a Bedouin-style tent, complete with camel-print drapery, in Trump’s yard.


But even tent-building was doomed at Seven Springs. Bedford officials issued a stop-work order — the tent was deemed a temporary residence, and it had no permits — and Gaddafi didn’t end up moving in.

“We are outraged that this known criminal would attempt to set up camp in our community, and we intend to do everything in our power to deny them temporary residence,” Bedford Town Supervisor Lee Roberts said at the time.

Gaddafi still “paid me a fortune,” Trump told CBS in 2016.

By the time Ralph Mastromonaco was hired by the Trump Organization to develop site plans for Seven Springs in 2010, the difficulties of building on the property were well established. Mastromonaco said he advised the Trump Organization to avoid attempting to build across all three towns but rather to limit the effort to one. The plans he drafted involved nine residential lots, all confined to the Bedford portion of the property.

“If you want to try to build something here, it’s quite a nightmare,” Mastromonaco, a civil engineer who has worked in Westchester since 1977, said in a recent interview.

This was Trump’s last attempt to build houses on the property. By May 2013, the Bedford planning board passed a resolution giving Trump’s company “final plat approval” to develop the residential lots — pending a list of 26 conditions that the Trump Organization would have to meet within 180 days. The Trump Organization did not complete that process, and those conditions were never met, according to Joel Sachs, the town attorney.

In particular, the Trump Organization failed to reimburse the town for the cost of hiring engineers and consultants to evaluate the Seven Springs proposal.

A copy of an invoice dated Nov. 11, 2019, reviewed by The Post shows the Trump Organization owes Bedford $46,976.63.

“They’ve never paid it,” Sachs said. “I don’t expect they’re going to pay it.”

Mastromonaco, who has given a deposition to New York prosecutors, said he did not know why the Trump Organization stopped pursuing the subdivision at Seven Springs.

“It started to look like they were just losing interest in it,” he said. “It just wasn’t a hot item for them to keep going.”

Conservation easement
By the end of 2015, Trump had signed an agreement with the North American Land Trust, a nonprofit based in Pennsylvania, promising not to develop 158 acres of Seven Springs, or about three-quarters of the property.

The mature deciduous forest of oak, maple and hemlock on Trump’s land stood adjacent to another nature preserve and clearly held ecological value, according to one person involved in the conservation easement who spoke on the condition of anonymity to address a matter involving the president.

“That’s not even a question,” the person said. “This totally fits into land that gets preserved for conservation easements.”

But the key question was its monetary value — and how much Trump would get to deduct from his taxes by agreeing not to develop it.

In recent years, conservation easements have come under greater scrutiny from the IRS, tax experts and both parties in the Senate because of abuses by some landowners who artificially inflated the worth of the land they preserved.

Dozens of cases have been litigated in recent years in which the IRS challenged the underlying valuation of conservation easements. Of those, the North American Land Trust has been involved in at least eight high-profile cases, including four involving golf course easements, said Nancy McLaughlin, a University of Utah law professor and expert in conservation easements who tracks these cases.

Shortly after launching his 2016 campaign, Trump sent the group $32,000 from his now-defunct charitable foundation, which was later ruled a misuse of charitable funds.

The North American Land Trust did not respond to a request for comment.

As the Seven Springs deal was being set up, appraisers from Cushman & Wakefield valued the property at $56.5 million, claiming that if it weren’t to be preserved, 24 homes, each worth an average of $2.1 million, could be built on the vacant part of the property, according to the document.

But the two independent appraisers who reviewed the document found significant problems with that report.

For one, they said, the appraisal does not mention Trump’s history of difficulties developing Seven Springs or offer much beyond unsubstantiated assertions that such a subdivision would comply with local planning rules. Several conservation easement experts said the development history is relevant to the value of the property.

“Imagine that we were wealthy developers and we were interested in purchasing that property from him,” said McLaughlin. “We would take into account that history. And we would say, ‘Well, gee, if we buy this property today, how likely is it that we are going to be able to develop it if he had all this problem trying to get the approvals?’ ”

One independent appraiser also flagged concerns about a “sleight of hand” technique that compared nearby sales on a price-per-acre basis, then applied it to much larger lots on Seven Springs. The appraiser also noted the claim that the 158 acres after conservation has “no economic value of its own,” when conserved land is in fact often bought and sold.

“The theme throughout this appraisal is: There is very little actual work done to collect data and analyze specific data,” he said. “It’s a lot of arm-waving and reference to national surveys.”

The second appraiser also flagged the lack of value after conservation — despite the fact that the conservation easement allows Trump many rights on the land, including hunting, driving off-road vehicles, building storage facilities and dividing it into three parcels to sell off. Only two of the eight comparable sales in the appraisal were similar in size to Seven Springs. But the report values Seven Springs at more than $100,000 per acre higher than those other properties, the second appraiser noted.

“There is absolutely no support for all the adjustments,” the second appraiser said. “They don’t even show how much fairy dust it took to make up those adjustments.”

“This is barely a 50-page report, and ours are usually 150 or more sans fairy dust,” the second appraiser added.

A third person who reviewed the appraisal, Timothy Lindstrom, a Virginia attorney and conservation easement expert, cited some areas where the document might be “vulnerable” but found fewer problems with it.

“While there are no appraisals that are immune from IRS quibbling, my overall reaction to this appraisal was that it was competently done and provided realistic values supported by proper analysis and data,” he said.

During the easement process, Eric Trump also relied on Sheri Dillon, a longtime Washington attorney.

According to correspondence disclosed by James’s office, Dillon repeatedly pressured the appraisers at Cushman & Wakefield to increase their valuations.

According to filings by the New York attorney general, Dillon gave sworn testimony in August but declined to answer numerous questions about her role and withheld some documents. Dillon did not respond to requests for comment.

During the appraisal process, one of the Cushman appraisers wrote in an email that Dillon had reported that “the client blew up at her” and that Dillon began “trying to convince us to restore” a $2.1 million valuation for each of the home parcels and “anything else that would push it up,” according to the court filings.

In another message, the Cushman appraisers ask Dillon to back off: “We’ve been over these issues and there is no point in dredging them up again. It’s time to agree to disagree and move on.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-got-a-21-million-tax-break-for-saving-the-forest-outside-his-ny-mansion-now-the-deal-is-under-investigation/2020/10/07/de84c1ba-ff6b-11ea-830c-a160b331ca62_story.html

President Trump’s Seven Springs estate covers 212 acres, including rolling woodlands that spread over three Westchester county towns. (Johnny Milano/for The Washington Post)

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timiofak(m): 8:50pm On Oct 10, 2020
feedthenation:


Thanks to Bill Gates --- you will still be using black slate to learn how to read and write ---

Also do you have a facebook account where you post your sunday best photos for your many boyfriends?

I watched a documentary, about the word MAGA, they where asking various trump supporters at his rallies, when was america great. All there answers were so backward and with little to no content

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sexylassie2(f): 9:02pm On Oct 10, 2020
feedthenation:


Thanks to Bill Gates --- you will still be using black slate to learn how to read and write ---

Also do you have a facebook account where you post your sunday best photos for your many boyfriends?

Apparently, you needed bill gate to learn the basics of life.

I dont use facebook

So you mean Africans cant do anything for themselves.

I see.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timiofak(m): 9:04pm On Oct 10, 2020
sexylassie2:


Apparently, you needed bill gate to learn the basics of life.

I dont use facebook

So you mean Africans cant do anything for themselves.

I see.

Ok build an app. Since its so easy, do one.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 9:04pm On Oct 10, 2020
Trump's 'super spreader' rally at the South Lawn of the WH

They are like lambs to the slaughter without face coverings

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sexylassie2(f): 9:05pm On Oct 10, 2020
Timiofak:


Ok build an app. Since its so easy, do one.

You mean you only need an app to function.

So before an app, has human beings not been learning things
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 9:06pm On Oct 10, 2020
feedthenation:


Thanks to Bill Gates --- you will still be using black slate to learn how to read and write ---

Also do you have a facebook account where you post your sunday best photos for your many boyfriends?

The idiot talks about Bill Gates wanting to control population when her country's health care has depended on Bill Gates interventions for many decades, she probably took vaccines subsidised by his foundation else malaria or polio would have taken her likes long before now, wonder where Trump supporters get their brainwashing from

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kophschmerzenii: 9:08pm On Oct 10, 2020
How do y'all go back and forth with these losers.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ZooOga: 9:19pm On Oct 10, 2020
feedthenation:
Trump's 'super spreader' rally at the South Lawn of the WH

They are like lambs to the slaughter without face coverings

Some ppl are saying those are paid actors (crowd) like that which is popular in 9ja.
American Republican politicians in too much of a hurry to reopen venues. European countries are also seeing a increase in virus infections.

COVID-19
·

The US is reporting over 50,000 new cases of COVID-19 per day for the first time since mid-August
The US reported 57,420 new positive cases in the US on Friday, the third day in a row with over 50,000 new cases, according to data collected by Johns Hopkins University. More than 213,000 Americans have died since the start of the pandemic. Experts and fact-checkers confirm that the data contradicts President Trump’s claim on Saturday that the pandemic is “disappearing.”
Photo via @ReutersUS

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sexylassie2(f): 9:22pm On Oct 10, 2020
sanpipita:


The idiot talks about Bill Gates wanting to control population when her country's health care has depended on Bill Gates interventions for many decades, she probably took vaccines subsidised by his foundation else malaria or polio would have taken her likes long before now, wonder where Trump supporters get their brainwashing from

Continue writing garbage down.

Before bill gates, Africans were living fine.

Bill gates is here to make money.

Infact there was a research done on bill gates vaccines by the catholic church, they found some components of birth control medicines in the vaccines



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s64E99kukjE

This is bill gates wife talking as if she owns how we reproduce


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPzCDjdHsfY

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 9:23pm On Oct 10, 2020
That's Don the Con, the biggest Con Man in American History, more so than Bernie Madoff of the $50 billion Pyramid Fraud. Alcatraz waiting for Don the Con after Jan 20.
ZooOga:
I checked a couple of pages in this thread but didn't see this article posted.

Politics
Trump got a $21 million tax break for saving the forest outside his N.Y. mansion. Now the deal is under investigation.

By Joshua Partlow, Jonathan O'Connell and David A. Fahrenthold

Oct. 9, 2020 at 8:35 a.m. EDT

Five years ago, Donald Trump promised to preserve more than 150 acres of rolling woodlands in an exclusive swath of New York suburbia prized for its luxury homes and rural tranquility.

In exchange for setting aside this land on his estate known as Seven Springs, Trump received a tax break of $21.1 million, according to court documents.

The size of Trump’s tax windfall was set by a 2016 appraisal that valued Seven Springs at $56.5 million — more than double the value assessed by the three Westchester County towns that each contained a piece of the property.

The valuation has now become a focal point of what could be one of the most consequential investigations facing President Trump as he heads into the election.


New York Attorney General Letitia James (D) is investigating whether the Trump Organization improperly inflated the value of Seven Springs as part of the conservation easement on the property, according to filings in the case in August. The investigation also scrutinizes valuations, tax burdens and conservation easements at Trump’s holdings in Los Angeles, Chicago and New York City.

Trump’s son Eric, who now helps run the Trump Organization, sat for a deposition in the case Monday.

What do we now know about Trump’s tax returns?
The Washington Post’s David A. Fahrenthold analyzes the latest revelations about President Trump’s tax returns and what it reveals about his finances.
The Seven Springs appraisal, obtained by The Washington Post, appears to have relied on unsupported assertions and misleading conclusions that boosted the value of Trump’s charitable gift — and his tax break, according to two independent appraisers who reviewed the document at The Post’s request.

The appraisal was written by Cushman & Wakefield, a commercial real estate firm that has worked with Trump over many years and whose New York City headquarters are in a building co-owned by Trump.

The firm established the value of the 212-acre estate by assuming a future buyer could build and sell 24 mansions on the land, without providing evidence that such a subdivision would meet local regulations. Over two decades, Trump himself tried to build on Seven Springs — first a golf course and later various housing developments — but the projects were stymied amid local opposition and environmental disputes.

The appraisal also claimed the land preserved under the easement had no economic value of its own, which one independent appraiser described as “crazy.” The tax break is calculated by subtracting the value of the conserved property from the value when it could be developed.

“This is not a good appraisal, and it’s misleading, and it’s thin as all get out,” said the first independent appraiser, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to preserve relationships in the industry. “What you get is appraised values for these 24 hypothetical lots that appear to be much higher than they ought to be.”

If the conservation easement transaction were ever litigated, the appraiser said, “they’d tear it apart.”

A spokesman for Cushman & Wakefield said: “We do not comment on ongoing litigation.” One expert who reviewed the appraisal at The Post’s request said he thought the firm did a “competent” job.

The Trump Organization’s chief legal officer, Alan Garten, said that he could not comment on the Seven Springs appraisal or respond to specific allegations made by James’s office because the investigation is ongoing but that “the allegations are categorically untrue.”

In a statement last month, Garten accused James of “continued harassment of the company as we approach the election.”

“This investigation is all about politics,” he added.

The president’s taxes and financial dealings are also part of a separate inquiry by Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. (D). Vance has offered less detail in court documents than James, citing grand-jury secrecy. A three-judge panel in a federal appeals court Wednesday ruled that Vance can enforce a subpoena that seeks financial documents from Trump, including his tax returns.

In addition to the conservation easement tax break, Trump in 2014 also classified Seven Springs as an investment property, rather than a personal residence, and wrote off $2.2 million in property taxes as a business expense, the New York Times recently reported.

Trump’s family members have described the home as a family retreat in the past, and the Trump Organization’s website still characterizes Seven Springs that way.

“Today, Seven Springs is used as a retreat for the Trump family,” the website says.

If it has been used as a rental property, it hasn’t brought much financial return, at least recently. On the public financial disclosures Trump is required to file annually as president, he said Seven Springs has produced only between $5,000 and $10,000 in total income since 2015.

Neither the James nor Vance investigation may make much headway before the election, according to legal experts. But both appear to be issues the president and his family will have to deal with whether he wins in November or not.

Lake manor
Seven Springs, with its 60 rooms and three swimming pools, has become a prime example of how Trump found tax benefits even in projects where he failed to achieve his original vision.

The home was built in 1919 by Eugene Meyer, former owner of The Washington Post. The pink sandstone manor house was designed in the style of a French chateau, and it is perched over Byram Lake, a reservoir for the area. The property was eventually passed on to Yale University and then to Rockefeller University, which used it as a conference center.

Trump bought the property in 1995 for $7.5 million with the intention of transforming it into an exclusive private golf course, with a stately clubhouse and luxury residences nearby, according to Trump’s public statements at the time.

But Trump’s building plans never came to fruition.

His project was met with stiff resistance from neighbors and local officials who worried about traffic problems as well as environmental degradation, according to planning documents obtained through a public records request and news coverage at the time. Many feared that chemicals from the golf course would pollute Byram Lake and taint drinking water for the nearby village of Mount Kisco. Trump also faced a complicated tangle of planning rules, as the property is spread over three neighboring towns: Bedford, North Castle and New Castle.

By 2004, the Trump Organization had given up on the golf course and instead proposed building 15 homes, which Trump described to the New York Times at the time as “super-high-end residential, the likes of which has never been seen on the East Coast.”

But his subdivision plans also bogged down amid local opposition and a multiyear legal battle in which Trump sued to gain access to a closed portion of a local road that ran through an adjacent Nature Conservancy preserve.

Even Trump’s personal lawyer Marc Kasowitz, who happened to live directly across the street from Seven Springs, at one point sent a letter to the Bedford planning director to voice concerns that headlights from the construction site would shine into the family home “where they frequently entertain.”

“Please note that their mail box has recently been knocked down on two separate occasions by speeding vehicles on Oregon Road,” an attorney at Kasowitz’s firm wrote on his behalf in the 2008 letter, obtained through a public records request.

Kasowitz did not respond to a request for comment.

In one bizarre episode from 2009, Trump rented out Seven Springs to the Libyan dictator Moammar Gaddafi, who was in New York for the United Nations General Assembly. Gaddafi’s staff pitched a Bedouin-style tent, complete with camel-print drapery, in Trump’s yard.


But even tent-building was doomed at Seven Springs. Bedford officials issued a stop-work order — the tent was deemed a temporary residence, and it had no permits — and Gaddafi didn’t end up moving in.

“We are outraged that this known criminal would attempt to set up camp in our community, and we intend to do everything in our power to deny them temporary residence,” Bedford Town Supervisor Lee Roberts said at the time.

Gaddafi still “paid me a fortune,” Trump told CBS in 2016.

By the time Ralph Mastromonaco was hired by the Trump Organization to develop site plans for Seven Springs in 2010, the difficulties of building on the property were well established. Mastromonaco said he advised the Trump Organization to avoid attempting to build across all three towns but rather to limit the effort to one. The plans he drafted involved nine residential lots, all confined to the Bedford portion of the property.

“If you want to try to build something here, it’s quite a nightmare,” Mastromonaco, a civil engineer who has worked in Westchester since 1977, said in a recent interview.

This was Trump’s last attempt to build houses on the property. By May 2013, the Bedford planning board passed a resolution giving Trump’s company “final plat approval” to develop the residential lots — pending a list of 26 conditions that the Trump Organization would have to meet within 180 days. The Trump Organization did not complete that process, and those conditions were never met, according to Joel Sachs, the town attorney.

In particular, the Trump Organization failed to reimburse the town for the cost of hiring engineers and consultants to evaluate the Seven Springs proposal.

A copy of an invoice dated Nov. 11, 2019, reviewed by The Post shows the Trump Organization owes Bedford $46,976.63.

“They’ve never paid it,” Sachs said. “I don’t expect they’re going to pay it.”

Mastromonaco, who has given a deposition to New York prosecutors, said he did not know why the Trump Organization stopped pursuing the subdivision at Seven Springs.

“It started to look like they were just losing interest in it,” he said. “It just wasn’t a hot item for them to keep going.”

Conservation easement
By the end of 2015, Trump had signed an agreement with the North American Land Trust, a nonprofit based in Pennsylvania, promising not to develop 158 acres of Seven Springs, or about three-quarters of the property.

The mature deciduous forest of oak, maple and hemlock on Trump’s land stood adjacent to another nature preserve and clearly held ecological value, according to one person involved in the conservation easement who spoke on the condition of anonymity to address a matter involving the president.

“That’s not even a question,” the person said. “This totally fits into land that gets preserved for conservation easements.”

But the key question was its monetary value — and how much Trump would get to deduct from his taxes by agreeing not to develop it.

In recent years, conservation easements have come under greater scrutiny from the IRS, tax experts and both parties in the Senate because of abuses by some landowners who artificially inflated the worth of the land they preserved.

Dozens of cases have been litigated in recent years in which the IRS challenged the underlying valuation of conservation easements. Of those, the North American Land Trust has been involved in at least eight high-profile cases, including four involving golf course easements, said Nancy McLaughlin, a University of Utah law professor and expert in conservation easements who tracks these cases.

Shortly after launching his 2016 campaign, Trump sent the group $32,000 from his now-defunct charitable foundation, which was later ruled a misuse of charitable funds.

The North American Land Trust did not respond to a request for comment.

As the Seven Springs deal was being set up, appraisers from Cushman & Wakefield valued the property at $56.5 million, claiming that if it weren’t to be preserved, 24 homes, each worth an average of $2.1 million, could be built on the vacant part of the property, according to the document.

But the two independent appraisers who reviewed the document found significant problems with that report.

For one, they said, the appraisal does not mention Trump’s history of difficulties developing Seven Springs or offer much beyond unsubstantiated assertions that such a subdivision would comply with local planning rules. Several conservation easement experts said the development history is relevant to the value of the property.

“Imagine that we were wealthy developers and we were interested in purchasing that property from him,” said McLaughlin. “We would take into account that history. And we would say, ‘Well, gee, if we buy this property today, how likely is it that we are going to be able to develop it if he had all this problem trying to get the approvals?’ ”

One independent appraiser also flagged concerns about a “sleight of hand” technique that compared nearby sales on a price-per-acre basis, then applied it to much larger lots on Seven Springs. The appraiser also noted the claim that the 158 acres after conservation has “no economic value of its own,” when conserved land is in fact often bought and sold.

“The theme throughout this appraisal is: There is very little actual work done to collect data and analyze specific data,” he said. “It’s a lot of arm-waving and reference to national surveys.”

The second appraiser also flagged the lack of value after conservation — despite the fact that the conservation easement allows Trump many rights on the land, including hunting, driving off-road vehicles, building storage facilities and dividing it into three parcels to sell off. Only two of the eight comparable sales in the appraisal were similar in size to Seven Springs. But the report values Seven Springs at more than $100,000 per acre higher than those other properties, the second appraiser noted.

“There is absolutely no support for all the adjustments,” the second appraiser said. “They don’t even show how much fairy dust it took to make up those adjustments.”

“This is barely a 50-page report, and ours are usually 150 or more sans fairy dust,” the second appraiser added.

A third person who reviewed the appraisal, Timothy Lindstrom, a Virginia attorney and conservation easement expert, cited some areas where the document might be “vulnerable” but found fewer problems with it.

“While there are no appraisals that are immune from IRS quibbling, my overall reaction to this appraisal was that it was competently done and provided realistic values supported by proper analysis and data,” he said.

During the easement process, Eric Trump also relied on Sheri Dillon, a longtime Washington attorney.

According to correspondence disclosed by James’s office, Dillon repeatedly pressured the appraisers at Cushman & Wakefield to increase their valuations.

According to filings by the New York attorney general, Dillon gave sworn testimony in August but declined to answer numerous questions about her role and withheld some documents. Dillon did not respond to requests for comment.

During the appraisal process, one of the Cushman appraisers wrote in an email that Dillon had reported that “the client blew up at her” and that Dillon began “trying to convince us to restore” a $2.1 million valuation for each of the home parcels and “anything else that would push it up,” according to the court filings.

In another message, the Cushman appraisers ask Dillon to back off: “We’ve been over these issues and there is no point in dredging them up again. It’s time to agree to disagree and move on.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-got-a-21-million-tax-break-for-saving-the-forest-outside-his-ny-mansion-now-the-deal-is-under-investigation/2020/10/07/de84c1ba-ff6b-11ea-830c-a160b331ca62_story.html

President Trump’s Seven Springs estate covers 212 acres, including rolling woodlands that spread over three Westchester county towns. (Johnny Milano/for The Washington Post)

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sexylassie2(f): 9:26pm On Oct 10, 2020
Remember the Kulak.

About 8 million land owners were killed by the communists all because they own properties.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 9:27pm On Oct 10, 2020
Uglylassie, thank Bill Gates. If not for him, your country people in the North will still be dying of polio. He single handedly eradicate Polio in so many Third world countries like Pakistan, India, Nigeria and so many. Here is a night hustling Jezebel writing junks about Bill Gates. I doubt if you are buoyant enough to give N5.000 out of your empty purse.
sexylassie2:


Continue writing garbage down.

Before bill gates, Africans were living fine.

Bill gates is here to make money.

Infact there was a research done on bill gates vaccines by the catholic church, they found some components of birth control medicines in the vaccines



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s64E99kukjE

This is bill gates wife talking as if she owns how we reproduce


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPzCDjdHsfY

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timiofak(m): 9:27pm On Oct 10, 2020
sexylassie2:


You mean you only need an app to function.

So before an app, has human beings not been learning things

I am asking you to build one, this is a stick man argument at best

Where human beings not travelling abroad before planes ? Yeah But by boats

Where humans not travelling place to place before cars ? Yeah but by horses and bicycles

You thinking mark zuckerberg and bill gates havent helped your life is stupidly at the maximum.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timiofak(m): 9:27pm On Oct 10, 2020
sanpipita:


The idiot talks about Bill Gates wanting to control population when her country's health care has depended on Bill Gates interventions for many decades, she probably took vaccines subsidised by his foundation else malaria or polio would have taken her likes long before now, wonder where Trump supporters get their brainwashing from

Many cant think, they just gobble conspiracy theories like its coke

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sexylassie2(f): 9:35pm On Oct 10, 2020
Timiofak:


I am asking you to build one, this is a stick man argument at best

Where human beings not travelling abroad before planes ? Yeah But by boats

Where humans not travelling place to place before cars ? Yeah but by horses and bicycles

You thinking mark zuckerberg and bill gates havent helped your life is stupidly at the maximum.


I dont use facebook products while i never took billgates birth control drugs aka vaccines.

I am still wondering how they helped my life.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 9:35pm On Oct 10, 2020
feedthenation:
Trump's 'super spreader' rally at the South Lawn of the WH

They are like lambs to the slaughter without face coverings
Cc.Zoooga


It turns out that the attendees travel fees were actually paid by Candace Owens Blexit group to attend the event.


Their transports were paid

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timiofak(m): 9:47pm On Oct 10, 2020
sexylassie2:


I dont use facebook products while i never took billgates birth control drugs aka vaccines.

I am still wondering how they helped my life.

Lol, clown. You dont use WhatsApp, instagram, ?

And do you know how many of these websites he owns by the undeground

Do you know how many websites uses his “react” tech for there websites

And bill gates, you ask me that? Every person here where taught the basics of computing from a Microsoft powered computer. But no you havent benefited from it

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 9:49pm On Oct 10, 2020
sexylassie2:


Continue writing garbage down.

Before bill gates, Africans were living fine.

Bill gates is here to make money.

Infact there was a research done on bill gates vaccines by the catholic church, they found some components of birth control medicines in the vaccines

This is bill gates wife talking as if she owns how we reproduce

Bill Gates in Africa to make money? grin

Africa is actually a leach on him, and not the other way around.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 9:53pm On Oct 10, 2020
It looks like extremists of all flavor endorses Trump, even the Taliban are his fans

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