elantraceey:
From this it shows that senders name is actually important. Kenny, you should have done enough research before going to the bank and the cashier just exploited your innocence thinking you won't notice early and then forget his face.


Don't wait a week, Nigerian banks will do nothing. Go there again tomorrow with a male and move to their headquarters if they don't do something serious. It takes a simple search on their database to fish out who received your money, they telling you to call the sender and ask that day is very fishy. If you need money for transport, send me a pm and I'll send you something. We must get to the bottom of this.

Glaciered:
Background and probably my last post here because I'm done with this thread.

I replied OP in her first thread on Friday morning where she said she needed to repay a 12k loan. I had asked her to give me her info. on the thread 'cos I saw she was online and it would be faster that way, as I, too, was online. I don't know her from Adam but wanted to help her quickly. She initially gave me the wrong info, which caused a delay. I could've easily tagged her a scammer right after this on the thread, which someone else would've done, but I didn't. What did I do? I sent her an email (she said her NL email wasn't working and left another email on the thread that I emailed). She's the one who should've emailed/PMed me, but I did, and specifically told her over email that I didn't want her to look bad on the thread, that I still wanted to try for her but I would use WU that night as an alternative and that I've used WU before without any issues. I sent her the WU receipt Friday night, and again, I didn't have to, and was telling her to go get the money 'cos I was happy to help.

I communicated with her over the weekend and sent her some info. on how to get it. My intention was that, if it did turn out that she needed my name, I would give her my name! I'm private, but I was going to give her my name if the bank wanted to give her any wahala. It's not as if I would keep her waiting. In fact, all of these happened within a few hours on Monday, so the guy or whoever took the money (if someone else did) moved really fast, which is no fault of mine. I'm not responsible for anyone's decision to commit theft. That money should've remained untouched if she hadn't collected it. After this, she then went on the thread and started removing her post and name (almost as if she was trying to hide something), and asked me to delete her name because she didn't want her husband to see this or that. Then, instead of her to open this thread she went to delete/edit some info. on that thread. I was baffled about this but didn't comment. DenreleDave was saying he had never see anyone do such, that she's supposed to open another thread, not edit that thread. All that aside, I didn't think much of it, and I'm not saying she's lying, even though I don't know. All I know is that the money has been picked up by the receiver in Nigeria, which's what the tracker says and what the WU agents told me, and again, what the tracker says, lol. Up till early Monday morning before she went to the bank, the money was still available. It was Monday night that she emailed me that the money had been received but it wasn't her who did.

Glaciered:
Nigerians are scammers and thieves. There, I've said it again. If that's what some of y'all are so bent on, then, too bad. It's called freedom of speech. I sent money to someone two years ago to do some work for me in Nigeria only for him to block me on Whatsapp after he got the money. And oh, he got it without me giving him my name at all. The first name I used in communicating with him was my middle name and I never gave him my last name, but he gave me his names and banking information for the money and was able to get it. Idk how he did it but all I did was give him the MTCN #. Remind me what your argument here is again? I had to find someone else here to do the work for me. I had asked him simply because I was trying to patronize a Nigerian. Foolish me. One of my siblings sent $6000 to someone in Nigeria for a project last year and not only did she refuse to do it but she called my brother insulting him that the money he had sent wasn't enough. Meanwhile no one knows what she did with the $6000. I can go on. Nigerians are fraudulent by nature; it's nothing new under the sun. If you're offended by me calling Nigerians scammers and thieves, then, if the shoes fits...

*Regarding OP needing my name, she said she had found out how to get the money without my name that day (Monday) but by that time she did the money had been received/picked up. How is me not giving her my name the cause of a BANK STAFF stealing it, redirecting it to his account or whatever method he used? That is, assuming her story is true - because all I'm going by is what she says. I am not responsible for anyone's lack of ethics to steal what didn't belong to them (if the staff did indeed take the money).

Glaciered:
Nigerians are scammers and thieves. There, I've said it again. If that's what some of y'all are so bent on, then, too bad. It's called freedom of speech. I sent money to someone two years ago to do some work for me in Nigeria only for him to block me on Whatsapp after he got the money. And oh, he got it without me giving him my name at all. The first name I used in communicating with him was my middle name and I never gave him my last name, but he gave me his names and banking information for the money and was able to get it. Idk how he did it but all I did was give him the MTCN #. Remind me what your argument here is again? I had to find someone else here to do the work for me. I had asked him simply because I was trying to patronize a Nigerian. Foolish me. One of my siblings sent $6000 to someone in Nigeria for a project last year and not only did she refuse to do it but she called my brother insulting him that the money he had sent wasn't enough. Meanwhile no one knows what she did with the $6000. I can go on. Nigerians are fraudulent by nature; it's nothing new under the sun. If you're offended by me calling Nigerians scammers and thieves, then, if the shoes fits...

*Regarding OP needing my name, she said she had found out how to get the money without my name that day (Monday) but by that time she did the money had been received/picked up. How is me not giving her my name the cause of a BANK STAFF stealing it, redirecting it to his account or whatever method he used? That is, assuming her story is true - because all I'm going by is what she says. I am not responsible for anyone's lack of ethics to steal what didn't belong to them (if the staff did indeed take the money).

elantraceey:
Kemmy210, create an account on twitter if you don't have one already and tell this story and tag both union bank, western union and CBN and you'll be amazed how fast they could respond.

elantraceey:


No one is holding you responsible ma'am, no one at all. I personally appreciate your kind gesture and I really hope this case is not a fraud.

Kemmy210 can you verify the bolded and tell us the method you intended to use without the sender's name?

DenreleDave:


Pls kindly calm sir.... Pls..

Let's look at the outcome of this case.....

Pls

signature2012:


I am very calm sir.Labelling every Nigerian a scammer is a very big dent.
She is Nigerian first,before becoming an American.

I have had my own share of dealing with our people back home and Americans here.

Are all Americans saint,No!

loveymom:


I pray and hope this does not turn out to be scam, and your money wasted on some fraudulent person.

Glaciered:


If this had happened here, it wouldn't take the bank 30 minutes before finding out who took the money, firing him and/or calling the police. This is actually not a difficult something, so I don't know what they're doing at the bank that they're yet to ascertain

Glaciered:

I'll just take it as a lesson learned, although the moment I sent it to her on Friday evening, I saw it as being no longer mine but hers. It's not even the money (although I'm glad I didn't send her more than that), but I'm merely confused at how someone (whoever took it, if someone did) could've done this so comfortably. If this had happened here, it wouldn't take the bank 30 minutes before finding out who took the money, firing him and/or calling the police. This is actually not a difficult something, so I don't know what they're doing at the bank that they're yet to ascertain

As you can see, this's the tracker. The money has been picked up / received (since Monday). Whoever did is for them to find out.

Kemmy210:

Like I have been telling you throughmail,you deserve to be angry and by God's grace,God will vindicate me.It's a pity all Nigerians look like scammers to you.I am not one,you have really helped me,I will continue to say that and I appreciate it.
By the grace of God,we would get to the root of this matter and you will know that it's not all Nigerians that are scammers.
I gave you the name I am bearing now when you asked for my name,gave you my second phone number.All the data I gave you were my data,not knowing you needed it for transaction which will require my account name (maiden name) and my main line and that is why the first transaction was cancelled,still you didn't stop there.You still drove to Western Union to send money to a total stranger,I appreciate you.thanks.
It is even better for me to admit that I have collected the money than what I am experiencing now,but will I lie against my self?I am the one who knows how much am spending on transport daily.But in all, God will vindicate me

Glaciered:
I went to the WU this morning and was told:
the money has been received by the receiver - OP,
that any issue with the money now should be taken up by the bank 'cos
the point of payment is the bank/at the bank in Nigeria.

He called WU's main line in front of me and they also said the same thing:
the money has been received by the receiver, and
any problem should be investigated there where it was received - there.

I'm just perplexed about this whole thing. It's not even the money (' cos I'm a boss babe ) but the dishonesty or theft/scam (if the bank staff did indeed steal it). For all I know, OP could be telling story that she didn't receive it and could've gotten it. There's no way for me to ascertain the truth. I know I was feeling generous that night and contemplated sending her $200 but I'm so glad I didn't 'cos if the bank staff is indeed behind the theft, he would've pocketed that much. I've learned my lesson: Nigerians are scammers and thiefs and I won't be helping anyone from Nairaland ever again.

Raydans:

Something is fishy. To the Op. Why did you provide a wrong information in the first place when you were asking for help at same time. To me I will say its a subconscious ingenuity of the mind to be able not to be traced easily since the intentions are not true. But then no one is above mistake.

To the helper. That you met 2 people that scammed you out of 200million people should not make you conclude all nigerians are scammers. It is fallacy of hasty generalization.

Please wait till the findings of the op before you conclude she is one.

Atk1nson:


Don't mind d the silly lady, most likely Nigerian herself, it's d op I blame. I wonder why people come online to beg 12k from online strangers, what happen to family members, church members, friends, neighbours.....work no dey, but if you check you'll still find something even if it's daily wage of 2k, people need to stop this kind of rubbish begging on nairaland.

Kemmy210:

I have Twitter account but I plan to call the manager in the morning to ask her how far, thanks.
According to her,they are tracking it from the headquarter to reveal who and where they receive it.

Atk1nson:



With a head so big you struggle to carry it, you drew that silly conclusion on top 21k sent through a platform many people don't remember still exists, Nigerians are scammers?

You and your family members are the scammers.

Op may be naive, but this one is just silly and arrogant and she's most likely Nigerian herself.

@kemmy210, stop sulking here, Nigeria is challenging right now but I don't think it's up to the point of begging a complete random stranger 12k or 21k, madam go and hussle and leave this "my helper" mentality.

DenreleDave:


I don't know why u r delaying this..

U made Glaciered called us a scammer and thieves..

U av been told, go to Twitter and tag the necessary people.. I bliv u r very much older than me and I don't Wana be rude to u..

Coz u r behaving too slow for me... Pls act so dt people wunt think u r a scammer

Kemmy210:

If you want to be rude,that is your own cup of tea Mr Spokeman.That i was keeping quiet in some matter doesn't mean i don't know what to do/say.

Glaciered:
Whoooaaaa. We've been communicating peacefully before you came in here. Don't be a tout. But you should likewise mind your own damn business because I don't even know what you're doing in this thread getting worked up over what doesn't concern you.

Nigerians are scammers and thieves. There.

DenreleDave:


Kuku insult everyone na... Rubbish

Acting as if they are using remote control to direct u.....

Some even called u a scammer and all u can do is u will send the money back...

Better soro soke now....

elantraceey:



Ehya, they must have really hurt you bad, please take heart, okay? God will replenish your pocket and triple whatsoever you must have lost.

I'm going to stop responding because this isn't about me but about a woman like myself whose image is been dragged here and I pray and hope she's able to exonerate herself if she's telling the truth which from all indications she is. There's only a doubt because she's a 'Nigerian'.


Have a nice day ma'am.

BKsoul:
denrele, as much as i like you, you are only worsening the matter for nothing sake ni oooo, kemmy has done nothing wrong abeg.