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Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by KayDee4: 2:48am On Nov 10, 2011
Travelling abroad does not guarantee a better future but with a good plan, you stand a chance. Strategize, dont just jump outta Naija  without a blueprint for your hustle.

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If you're a very smart person you can make it anywhere on God's green earth, some people are better off in naija than they would be if they went anywhere else so I guess it’s different strokes for different folks.

Its up to you to know your worth and weigh your options. If you are earning $250k in naija and you're being offered $100k as net pay in America, then ure better off sitting home than coming over. If i was earning $100k in naija and I have the opportunity of earning $250k (NET) here or in Ukraine, then its a better option for me. simple as ABC
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Its all about choices and planning.

If you feel you're worth 1m in Nigeria and you're not getting it then go to where u feel u will (with a plan of course).

Weigh your options and decide what's better for you.

Okija has made his choice which is a better option for him and he still has brilliant plans so y is everyone on his case.


[size=14pt]Naija is not a very conducive place to live, nothing works and corruption thrives in the country, justice system is screwed up, security is nothing to write home about, infrastructure is non-existent and a whole bunch of problems enough to make a sane ni99a go crazy. All these deficiencies fixed, and 9ja becomes paradise.[/size]

Putting security and other good things of life above money or vice-versa is also a matter of choice.

Olalekan 0:

Okija-juju, For you to earn 500k a month in Nigeria as you claimed,you must possess at least two degrees,whereas you can drop out of school at the 5th grade in America and still have a good life!

5th grade drop-out ? ? Dont deceive urself, as a Nigerian in a foreign land, that rule does not apply. Unless u wanna push coka' or work in the morgue, if that's your idea of a "good life".


Olalekan 0:

@okija-juju, I've got nothing more to say to you,fellow nairalanders have said it all. However,am going to ask you this;when you earn 500k a month in nigeria,do you get to save all that amount? The answer is no! Nothing compares to live abroad,i know a good number of senators children who relocated to Nigeria after their father's' election triumph,they only stayed for a few months and are back in the U.S'now.  Nigerians are dieing of avoidable causes for example, doctors' negligence as a result of the crappy traiing they receive,bad roads,armed robbery,fraudsters everywhere,class discrimination,appaling infrastructure,you name it. Even the people in the ghettos of america have a better quality of live than nigeria's'rich!

@ d red bolded; better for u to be discriminated against in Nigeria by fellow Nigerians than for you to be discriminated by Oyibo man because ure in his country. Nigeria is in a terrible state, no doubt about that but there's no place like home. Even black americans here still suffer some form of discrimination, not to mention u with an African name. This your point nor follow abeg.

@ d blue bolded; dont be deceived : That is a fallacy, infact, a[size=18pt] BIG FAT LIE[/size] !!!
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by Nobody: 2:56am On Nov 10, 2011
Very good question OP, the best question since I joined this forum. Thinking how to start , undecided
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by Cuddlemii: 4:28am On Nov 10, 2011
Home or abroad is not a determinant to a better future. Your determination, drive and hard work is the bedrock of a better future. Now the reason why people leave Nigeria is because even with all the hard work & input, you never get what you deserve. You might be a 1st class product, aced all aptitude tests of reputable companies only for the position to be handed over to a numbskull whose father is a brother to a governor. It can be frustrating when your own contribution or quota to your society is not rewarded or appreciated.

Nigeria is a good place to be if you are wealthy, connected, have job security & good wages, benefits, salary packages. If not its a waste of time. Its already disheartening that the country has no functional system of government and lack consistency with social amenities then you now top that up with living in penury, God forbid! I think traveling does a lot to a Nigerian, it curbs the aggressive nature of people, gives them a different orientation hence making them reason like rational beings.

People are complaining about Uk and taxes. A friend once told me he would rather pay his taxes as it allows his Dad come to UK for health treatments so there is transparency as to how the funds are disbursed or spent. He said he can never pay tithe in Bishop Oyedepo's church where the pastor is acquiring jets while his congregation lives in abject poverty. These congregation helped to construct and build his University (they were working for God). How many of these congregation did he put in the university or even select like 10 as scholarship to help the poor. How many did he declare free food for one week. Why would anyone want to be in a deceptive society where you are being ripped off by everyone and yet you get nothing. Some churches abroad have something like welfare where they cater for poor people and students.

Marriages abroad are far more enriching and solid as there are certain things a man can't get away with abroad. In Nigeria, most men are so spoilt with the idea that they are the head so they treat their wives like slaves in bondage and captivity that probably explains the aging factor of most Nigerian ladies.

The educational standard in Nigeria has fallen. No structure, No equipped classrooms, No diverse curriculum, No facilities and lack of top notch faculties. Even the top notch faculties we have are not treated fairly as their salaries are withheld, delayed etc. The option available these days are private universities or private schools. The question is how many people can afford that luxury when some people have 5 kids to cater for. Its almost the same or even cheaper than some universities abroad so is it not wise to send your kids to a country where a 4 years program can never become 7 or 8 years except the pupil is a dullard.

Till now, it beats me as to why Ghana has had constant electricity for years now and we are still battling with availability of light. Its already bad that the weather in Nigeria is not favorable then Nepa too, would help decorate the heat in the lives of people so you tend to see a lot of skin problems ranging from rash, pimples, scaly skin etc. You can't even use mere moisturizer during the day, you might end up with showers of blessing in form of sweats and people look at you like what planet are you from. The weather abroad gives the skin a velvety flavor, makes it fresh and sometimes even lighten the skin.

So many factors contribute to leaving & staying back in Nigeria. I mean who doesn't like the good things of life. Who doesn't like an organized government? Who doesn't like good education? Who doesn't like good roads not the one you would be scared that your car would sink into a pot hole and you have to drive with your eyeballs almost falling off. Who doesn't like security where you would smile at the efficient people in the force because they do the job they are being paid for and not Nigeria that the police can barely feed and live off the 20naira from buses.

Its a matter of choice and your set goals. If you think Nigeria is delaying your achievements then you look for another place. Sometimes a change of scenery restores sanity & peace of mind to people. Although, going abroad has its own disadvantages too but the risk is worth taking once you are legit and ready to sow the right seeds, the sky is the limit. You can take your experience from a foreign country back to Nigeria to improve it, impact on it & make a change. Don't die in a foreign land, bring that expertise home later on for a better Nigeria.

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Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by Nobody: 4:32am On Nov 10, 2011
NO It doesnt guarantee a better future BUT it give you an opportunity for a better future.
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by godman01(m): 6:47am On Nov 10, 2011
Its all about your mindset. If you are diligent and consistent here in Nigeria, you make it. An unserious person can't do anything significant over there, until his/her mindset is changed to hardwork. Perhaps over there is not all roses.
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by Nobody: 6:49am On Nov 10, 2011
@Okijajuju, i respect your sharing your story as that is your experience. I can relate too because I schooled in Ghana and also currently in Canada. one thing i've learnt in life though is that it's different strokes for different folks and every one's destiny is different. Truth about Canada is that they value the 'Canadian experience'. As long as you've schooled or worked professionally there, you sort of become like hot cake  (that takes a lot of sacrifice esp when you sit back and check yourself that you have about two or more degrees from other places), and it also depends on your industry too mostly. However, i'm a firm believer that with God's help, we define our destinies. Some people have had good experiences in Canada while some have not so good experiences. Even in Naija, some people are looking for tht 500k job meanwhile people with experience still dont have it and are earning just enough to also keep them afloat.

Overall, my answer to the topic is that one word cannot answer that question. Staying in Naija doesn't guarantee success the same way that going abroad doesn't guarantee success. People have experiences and also base their outlook based on their experiences. Some are good and some not so good. When you see something is not working for you, keep trying till you find something that works whether home or abroad. Afterall, we're all trying to make our lives better as long as we're legitimate and truthful to ourselves
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by kennyeast(m): 6:54am On Nov 10, 2011
AS FOR ME YANKEE IS REALLY GOOD FOR ME, I GRADUATED IN 2007, FINISHED SERVICE IN 2010, WAS STILL SLEEPING IN MY MOM'S SEATING ROOM, WITHOUT A JOB, THAT SAME 2010 I WON THE US VISA LOTTERY, BY THE GRACE OF GOD MADE IT THRU THE INTERVIEW AND LEFT NAIJA LIKE 5 MONTHS AGO, NOW I OWN A HONDA ACCORD CAR(END OF DISCUSSION) OF MY OWN(NOT MORTGAGE ), I CAN AFFORD TO PAY MY SIBLINGS SCHOOL FEES, PAY MY MOM AND DAD WHAT I CALL MONTHLY UPKEEP SALARY OF 50.000 NGN EACH AND I CAN AFFORD TO SLEEP IN HOTELS THAT ARE FAR MORE LUXURIOUS THAN THE BEST HOTEL IN NIGERIA WITHOUT HAVING TO SPEND ALL I MAKE FROM MY "MENIAL" JOB. I HAVE ALL THE OPPORTUNITY TO UPGRADE MY CV. THANK GOD FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. THAT IS MY OWN STORY O, ITS NOT THE SAME  FOR EVERYBODY.

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Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by Adegokenath(m): 6:59am On Nov 10, 2011
kalokalo:

Bollocks!

Animal
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by Nobody: 7:04am On Nov 10, 2011
my aunt was a manager in UAC,she resigned niw she washes and changes the diapers in old people's homes in America,
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by samyng(m): 7:08am On Nov 10, 2011
ehie:

my aunt was a manager in UAC,she resigned niw she washes and changes the diapers in old people's homes in America,

[size=20pt]wow really this is not Good at all[/size]
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by abbey621(m): 7:10am On Nov 10, 2011
@Ehie- Ask your aunt how much she was making at UAC and how much she makes now, even with the dirtiest of jobs, Nigerians make more over here,and are able to see the benefits of why they are working otherwise most of them would have gladly left the country. A CNA(Person that changes diapers and takes care of old people) makes about 1,000 to 1,200 dollars per month, I seriously doubt if UAC can afford to pay such to its managers.
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by werepeLeri: 7:15am On Nov 10, 2011
abbey621:

@Ehie- Ask your aunt how much she was making at UAC and how much she makes now, even with the dirtiest of jobs, Nigerians make more over here,and are able to see the benefits of why they are working otherwise most of them would have gladly left the country. A CNA(Person that changes diapers and takes care of old people) makes about 1,000 to 1,200 dollars per month, I seriously doubt if UAC can afford to pay such to its managers.


A bunch of made up issues to justify living outside Nigeria. I know lots in Nigeria, and I am sure you know lots as well, who earn better than people who "was dishes" in America. How much is 1000k or 1500k USD in Nigeria?

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Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by Nobody: 7:20am On Nov 10, 2011
she had a driver,she was a regional manager in Abuja,MINNA,SOKOTOAND MAIDUGURI,SHE HAD STAFF AT HER BECK AND CALL,SHE HAD A HOUSE AND SPONSORED Three OF HER SISTERS AND A BROTHER THRU SCHOOL,BUT THEN SHE QUIT AFTER 25 YEARS AND WENT TO YANKEE, WHAT IS 1000 SUBTRACT TAX?
WHAT DO U THINK IT WOULD DO TO Her PSYCHOLOGICALLY,
ANOTHER OF MY AUNT earned her pharm degree in ABU,after 12 years and after getting her masters in the us she s still a pharm technician not a pharmacisit,
America ko Europe ni,
u can only get light water and security(not if u stay in the bronx and queens) and o
one thing is certain in those countries
Death and Taxes
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by Nobody: 7:22am On Nov 10, 2011
abbey621:

@Ehie- Ask your aunt how much she was making at UAC and how much she makes now, even with the dirtiest of jobs, Nigerians make more over here,and are able to see the benefits of why they are working otherwise most of them would have gladly left the country. A CNA(Person that changes diapers and takes care of old people) makes about 1,000 to 1,200 dollars per month, I seriously doubt if UAC can afford to pay such to its managers.

at the bolded, that amount is small so don't look at it like big money. $1000 to be modest will be about N150,000k and yes UAC can afford that and even more for managers.

I still advocate that people are different and it will be wrong to make generalizations. Some people are saying thank God they left Naija, some people are saying thank God they went back. We can only all speak based on our experiences which we use to advice others but ultimately, everyone is different and we're all ultimately responsible for our choices and making it work or retracing our steps
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by Nobody: 7:36am On Nov 10, 2011
a taxi driver in abuja can tgake home 7k daily,mechs can make up to 15k on a goos day,a vulcaniser can take 5 k a day,a mama put owner can make more than 11 k,degree owners can make less but if you multi task or learn a vocation while working u will live right,u can have a degree,but still learn sewing,catering,carpentery etc ,not just sit on your a,s,s and say i am a graduate, u will live well
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by shimol(m): 7:47am On Nov 10, 2011
After graduating in 2006, I took up a photographing job. And recently earned a master's degree in geophysics and still job hunting. Out of confusion I applied 4a bank job. On gettin 2d test venue I was booted out cos I just turned 27yrs old d previous week. I was so downcasted that I did something strange - I infused alcohol into my system that early mornin. Right now I am gettin ready to start PhD by january cos I cant stay idle. Aint killin 4a job like before. Just hustling to run away to where I'll pray little, eat well, live healthy, sleep with all eyes closed. Naija it too bad that jealous ones in our streets n villages wants to knack you AKPAKO!
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by atasteve: 7:53am On Nov 10, 2011
A chicken in Nigeria can't become an eagle abroad.
Take time to develop yourself and you will see that what doesn't come from above (God) CANNOT come from abroad!
Wealth flows in the direction of those that solve other people's problems.
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by Nobody: 7:55am On Nov 10, 2011
I think the issue has to be looked at carefully: There are many people who have been successful at business outside Nigeria while some have been similarly successful in Nigeria. Some graduates have gotten jobs outside Nigeria - atimes when they could not get a job in Nigeria.

It is all about opportunities. Some opportunities are not present in Nigeria for some people and they feel they have to look elsewhere - why do you think that many professionals in Nigeria with good jobs obtain work VISAS for other countries and move over with their families?

It is all about your priorities - just as people who have ventured out of Nigeria have returned back, unable to realise their dreams outside, you have people who have made it big time outside Nigeria.

A Better Future is relative is best defined on a case-by-case basis.
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by AjanleKoko: 9:26am On Nov 10, 2011
ehie:

she had a driver,she was a regional manager in Abuja,MINNA,SOKOTOAND MAIDUGURI,SHE HAD STAFF AT HER BECK AND CALL,SHE HAD A HOUSE AND SPONSORED Three OF HER SISTERS AND A BROTHER THRU SCHOOL,BUT THEN SHE QUIT AFTER 25 YEARS AND WENT TO YANKEE, WHAT IS 1000 SUBTRACT TAX?
WHAT DO U THINK IT WOULD DO TO Her PSYCHOLOGICALLY,
ANOTHER OF MY AUNT earned her pharm degree in ABU,after 12 years and after getting her masters in the us she s still a pharm technician not a pharmacisit,
America ko Europe ni,
u can only get light water and security(not if u stay in the bronx and queens) and o
one thing is certain in those countries
Death and Taxes

See lazy talk.
Your aunt was prolly earning a lot of money doing nothing in Nigeria, like many so-called middle class Nigerians in government and private sector. When she got to a place where standards and expectations were higher, she fell short. Whose fault is that? Is she better than all the senior citizens working in Walgreens? No be only your aunt go school o.
What made your aunt relocate in the first place sef, if she had all those things?

And your other aunt - do you think standards required from pharmacists in Naija are the same with the USA? One time I tried to buy Andrews Liver Salts in Dubai, only to be told that the drug had been banned in the UAE since 1991. Small wonder the life expectancy in Nigeria is 43 years angry

While we're on about aunts sef - I have an aunt who retired as a General Manager in NNPC. She relocated to the US post-retirement, and worked in Dell, on the assembly line, assembling PCs. She is still doing that till today. Unlike many of the hungry Nigerians, she didn't relocate to US to make her fortune. She said she needed to stay active after retirement, and staying in Nigeria would only make her redundant and end her life early.

Nigerians are too hungry and too lazy abeg.
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by Okijajuju1(m): 9:32am On Nov 10, 2011
How many people do any of you know Abroad (UK & U.S) that own houses that they have fully paid up the mortgage on the houses?! How moany of you know Nigerians in Diaspora that own brand new vehicles that do not have a payment plan/mortgage on it?! How many of you here know people abroad that work and still have a second job just to meet up with his/her financial needs?!

Security?! No be for U.K wey riots just happen?! Is it not in the U.K that street gangs still go around shanking kids?! How many of you here have gone into a greyhound station in the U.S and Canada and seen the pictures of missing babies and teenagers that have not been found, seen or heard from for over 5 to 16 years?! let us not get ahead of ourselves and act like being abroad is all roses and cotton balls when it comes to security because everywhere has got its own challenges.

Comfort is what you make it. I didnt grow up with 24/hrs light and generator, but after I travelled and returned and heard about inverters, voila! I have 24 hours light in my house. With 20 - 30 million Naira here in Nigeria, I can buy a land (fully owned not on a mortgage), build my house and own it. In the end, its all about what you want!! I have laid down my game plan, and I think that it is the winning formula.
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by Okijajuju1(m): 9:35am On Nov 10, 2011
AjanleKoko:

See lazy talk.
Your aunt was prolly earning a lot of money doing nothing in Nigeria, like many so-called middle class Nigerians in government and private sector. When she got to a place where standards and expectations were higher, she fell short. Whose fault is that? Is she better than all the senior citizens working in Walgreens? No be only your aunt go school o.
What made your aunt relocate in the first place sef, if she had all those things?

And your other aunt - do you think standards required from pharmacists in Naija are the same with the USA? One time I tried to buy Andrews Liver Salts in Dubai, only to be told that the drug had been banned in the UAE since 1991. Small wonder the life expectancy in Nigeria is 43 years angry

While we're on about aunts sef - I have an aunt who retired as a General Manager in NNPC. She relocated to the US post-retirement, and worked in Dell, on the assembly line, assembling PCs. She is still doing that till today. Unlike many of the hungry Nigerians, she didn't relocate to US to make her fortune. She said she needed to stay active after retirement, and staying in Nigeria would only make her redundant and end her life early.

Nigerians are too hungry and too lazy abeg.


Omo thats one hell of a demotion sha!! She should most prolly be richer than her super!
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by Nosyke(m): 9:35am On Nov 10, 2011
Wonderful Thread, very inspiring and educative.Nlnders please keep it up
@Okijajuju, your story especially is classic, that of determination, drive, focus and good planning
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by AjanleKoko: 9:46am On Nov 10, 2011
Okija_juju:

Omo thats one hell of a demotion sha!! She should most prolly be richer than her super!

You see, that is the point a lot of people do not get. No offence, but even you don't get it.
There is no point carrying our entitlement mentality over to the USA or Canada, and expect them to open doors for you automatically there. These are societies with higher standards, both living standards, educational standards, and working standards. What you can easily get in Nigeria, you won't get it there, because there is much more competition, and more expectation. Plus, you are African, so much less is expected from you, for obvious reasons.

I know of people who turned down cross-posting opportunities, to work outside Nigeria, simply because 'I don't want to be cheated of my promotion'. See why I think Nigerians are hungry people?

That you or anyone else had a hard time of it in the West, and had to come back home, does not justify the assertion that Nigeria is better than abroad. There are millions of university graduates in Nigeria who would truly be better off working at Wal-Mart and earning minimum wage in the US. That is the harsh truth.

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Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by Nobody: 11:16am On Nov 10, 2011
Ajanlekoko, you're preaching to the wrong crowd. For the vast majority of Nigerians, it's only and always about money.  How much money does one man need 

I honestly don't know why we behave like hustlers  undecided
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by Okijajuju1(m): 11:24am On Nov 10, 2011
@ Ajanlekoko

I get the point bro! Even I have the same plan. Work here and retire with my benefits rolling and go over there and settle to a nice job whilst managing my businesses in Naija! Over there (US & Canada), one can still find a job at old age and help keep mind and body together. I'm just imagining an NNPC Manager working the assembly line of a production company. . Dont blame me bro, I am Nigerian, we think of status first before looking at the larger picture.

Good for her! she would definitely live long because her mind and body is still very active.


naijababe:

Ajanlekoko, your preaching to the wrong crowd. For the vast majority of Nigerians, it's only and always about money. How much money does one man need

I honestly don't know why we behave like hustlers undecided

My dear, make we no dey form plenty things for here!! Life is hard! I know the circumstances into which I was born. I have watched my family go from being dependant to now feeding many. My dear, we are Africans, Seek ye first the money and all other things shall be added unto you. grin
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by Nosyke(m): 11:33am On Nov 10, 2011
Okija_juju:

@ Ajanlekoko

I get the point bro! Even I have the same plan. Work here and retire with my benefits rolling and go over there and settle to a nice job whilst managing my businesses in Naija! Over there (US & Canada), one can still find a job at old age and help keep mind and body together. I'm just imagining an NNPC Manager working the assembly line of a production company. . Dont blame me bro, I am Nigerian, we think of status first before looking at the larger picture.

Good for her! she would definitely live long because her mind and body is still very active.


My dear, make we no dey form plenty things for here!! Life is hard! I know the circumstances into which I was born. I have watched my family go from being dependant to now feeding many. My dear, we are Africans, Seek ye first the money and all other things shall be added unto you. grin

According to the book of Okija versus juju abi? grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by leMuhito(f): 11:46am On Nov 10, 2011
Hmmmm, Now I'm better informed. Thank u all!
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by pauloman(m): 2:08pm On Nov 10, 2011
My guy with all due respect to your hustle,if i was in your shoes i would have made far better success with your opportunities(not like im in a lesser circumstance). I have followed your post right from the beginning of this thread.You should have known prolly well dat your profession in the first place is on a high demand in canada and you only needed just some educational integration in the form of professional certifications an the likes in canada to get yourself fully ready for the canadian labour market (because your profession is a regulated one there) and then you start making your cool dols and living large even a lot more than you are doing presently. You only needed a few years of sacrifice to get there. But i think now you are just taking a longer route to the same destination. But i must confess that you were so damn lucky to have snapped ur present job at the moment when you got back to naija coz such dont come that easy bro. Also i shud add that u shudnt be so excited about acquiring a canadian citizenship just like that since you are currently in naija since your visa is that of a permenant resident,because for you to even qualify to apply as one you should have stayed in the country for a consecutive 4-5yrs without leaving the shores of that country. So what im saying in essence is dat u didnt utilize your opportunities to the best of it and now you are taking a longer route to it. Travelling abroad really is not a sure way to success but it sure gives better opportunities ,that is if the individual can utilize it well. One can actually make it in naija but its a tough ride,as you will be up against alot of the inadequacies and inefficiencies in the system. So you cant really compare hussling abroad and in naija at all as things work in the former.
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by pauloman(m): 2:18pm On Nov 10, 2011
My response above was in reply to okija-juju stance on this thread
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by Okijajuju1(m): 2:46pm On Nov 10, 2011
@ Paulo

Erm! Let me say this straight out the door that I think I made the best decision for me. APEGGA certification would take me about 4 - 5 years to get. I cant be subjected to waiting for 4 years man. Yess my profession is in high demand in Canada especially Alberta, but this living as a big boy theory that you are proposing is flawed. Chances of making serious money in Canada and in Nigeria are incomparible. Except you want me to take up farming (which the govt supports by reducing their taxes and grants) or get a skill like capentary and co. Plus I cant live my life on bank loans my guy! I hate anything that has to do with a mortgage. If I had stayed in Canada, in 10 years, Yes! I'll prolly be able to get 2 houses, 2 cars and co, but they will all be on a mortgage. I dont like living my life on credit. In 10 years, judging by the pace with which I am going, I would be the proud owner of a house, fully paid for and owned by me. All my properties would be in my name and all paid for. I wouldnt have to worry about credit card bills, high taxes and the Repo-man coming to take away my car at night while I sleep. I wouldnt have to be bothered about credit rating and all that other crap.

On getting my Canadian Passport next year, I am quite certain about it. Yes I know the rule of having to have stayed atleast a minimum of three (3) years in the country to be eligible for it and I have done the ground work necessary to ensure that I would have no problems. My runs in that regard is tight. Dont worry about it, a Nigerian who did it prior to me and got his passport hooked me up. Its fool proof.

Basically Sir, its all about how you want to look at it. in the five years or so that it will take me to get APEGGA certification, I would have raked in over 30million Naira (judging solely on my current salary structure). This does not include other side businesses that I would be transacting o! And ofcourse, I do not intend to be on this same salary structure for more than 2 years, I am already eyeing another company, just waiting to round up some courses that I am currently running.

For many who dont quite understand Nigeria, this country is a shi't hole that kills dreams, hopes and frustrates your efforts. For those who are patient enough to do their homework and see beyond the mist, it is an untapped resource, filled with so many potentials. I am lucky to have gotten my current job. My C.V is building with each passing day. I have a series of certification programmes lined up. After I can boast of atleast 4 years post-NYSC experience and a good number of relevant certifications, I can now re-strategize and plan a new line of attack. Meanwhile, I am still working on my APEGGA certification o! I intend to use my current job experience to re-apply and shorten my application processing period.

My siblings are all there. They schooled/are schooling there, so it would be easier for them to fit into the Canadian market. I'm not getting any younger my guy, I saw an alternative that made better sense to me and I took it. Wish me luck! wink

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Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by Nobody: 2:50pm On Nov 10, 2011
^ Goodluck grin
Re: Does Travelling Abroad Truly Guarantee A Better Future? by coogar: 3:15pm On Nov 10, 2011
Okija_juju:

How many people do any of you know Abroad (UK & U.S) that own houses that they have fully paid up the mortgage on the houses?! How moany of you know Nigerians in Diaspora that own brand new vehicles that do not have a payment plan/mortgage on it?! How many of you here know people abroad that work and still have a second job just to meet up with his/her financial needs?!

this is because the houses abroad hold more value than the ones in nigeria. the people on mortgage would have paid for houses worth more than 100 million naira in the next 25 yrs while your house of 30 million retains the same value or even drop in price in nigeria. can you then compare the two? the people on mortgage pay small amounts every month like rent but after a certain period of time, it becomes their houses.

all the nigerians in the uk i know of don't buy cars on payment plans. what sense is behind such? cars don't ever appreciate. if you buy a car now and drive it out of the carshop and return it back after 5 mins that you don't want it again. the car is now 2nd hand and at least £1000 must be deducted from money you paid 5 mins ago.


Security?! No be for U.K wey riots just happen?! Is it not in the U.K that street gangs still go around shanking kids?! How many of you here have gone into a greyhound station in the U.S and Canada and seen the pictures of missing babies and teenagers that have not been found, seen or heard from for over 5 to 16 years?! let us not get ahead of ourselves and act like being abroad is all roses and cotton balls when it comes to security because everywhere has got its own challenges.

so how many people died in the u-k riots? compared to the way police, robbers and crazy people kill at will in nigeria. what is the death rate of the motorways in nigeria compared to the uk? what's the life expectancy in nigeria compared to the uk/usa. because you have been lucky to be alive, you now think it's pretty much given and you can bounce as you please. you make me laugh. you don't value life and you don't know the value of security. the peace that comes with going home and knowing you will sleep in absolute tranquility without the menace of hoodlums or even mosquito.


Comfort is what you make it. I didnt grow up with 24/hrs light and generator, but after I travelled and returned and heard about inverters, voila! I have 24 hours light in my house. With 20 - 30 million Naira here in Nigeria, I can buy a land (fully owned not on a mortgage), build my house and own it. In the end, its all about what you want!! I have laid down my game plan, and I think that it is the winning formula.

you don't even need up to that 20-30 million naira to get a house here. as little as 2.5 million naira is enough for down payments here. then you can then invest the 27 million naira in a business in nigeria. hell, if you are scared of going into business where your money might be lost. put the 27 million in a fixed deposit in a solid bank. the interest you get from that pretty much pays your mortgage every month, and you are coasting!

that cash-driven economy has screwed up the brains of the average nigerian. this is why the politicians steal at will.

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