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bayelsaowei:
I even expect trump to be talking more about carbon capture storage as a way to handle carbon emissions even if he insists on dieing in fracking and oil exploration/production. I expect him to discuss about ways to reduce carbon emissions. But the guy has come out to throw down the scientific researches and findings on climate change..

A human with zilch knowledge about science disputing scientific findings that we see the evidence day in day out..

What evidence have you seen about climate change apart from 99% of scientists funded research.
I have seen beach fronts being snapped up by Obama, Kerry, Been Sanders, Al Gore etc at dirt cheap prices.The same unscientific clowns who predicted Manhattan being under water by 2020.

basilico:
After the debate the Rasmussen polls have Trump at 46% approval among blacks.

Morning Reader Data Points:
National Daily Black Likely Voter Job
Approval For @POTUS – October 19-23,
2020
Mon 10/19 – 25%
Tue 10/20 – 24%
Wed 10/21 – 31%
Thu 10/22 – 37%
Fri 10/23 – 46%
— Rasmussen Reports
(@Rasmussen_Poll) October 23, 2020

From Rasmussen, the same people that gave him a 52% approval rating lmao. Enjoy your fabu

benalvino2:
There is a reason you don't see nuclear reactors in cars and planes. You only see them in ships and submarines. Each devices has a kind of energy that can power it. Cars batteries can power it... But your jumbo jets are too big and needs enormous power draw to even get of the ground. For that use case... Battery will dies before tou say hiphip. Same with cruise ships.

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Even trump himself knows climate change is real, he was asked yesterday, he gave a retarded answer. Assuming he didn't believe it real, he would have surely said that there is nothing like climate change. But some people that have zilch idea about climate say it's a lie okay na

bayelsaowei:
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You would see I just ignored it, when Graham was trying to design a telephone. Some people said it's magic. Everyone with an idea in tech, knows renewable energy is the way, I don't now know who it would be powered ooo, but it is.

Timiofak:
From Rasmussen, the same people that gave him a 52% approval rating lmao. Enjoy your fabu

The same people who had Hillary up.

On its final poll released Nov. 7, the
day before Election Day, Rasmussen
had up 2 points on
. Clinton won the
popular vote by 1 percentage point,
even though Donald Trump beat her
on electoral votes.
No other pollster tracked by
RealClearPolitics came as close to the
final results.
No other pollster tracked by
RealClearPolitics came as close to the
final results.
"The media created a false narrative
about the 2016 presidential campaign,
and most polling reinforced it,"
Rasmussen wrote on its website
Thursday. "Our polling showed that
issues, not the media-fed
controversies, would ultimately decide
the election."
Only one polling entity tracked by
RealClearPolitics had Trump leading
going into Election Day: A
collaboration poll between Investor's
Business Daily and TechnoMetrica
Market Intelligence that had Trump
leading by two points.
Most other polls tracked by
RealClearPolitics showed Clinton
leading by three or four points. The
Monmouth University poll showed
Clinton leading by six — the furthest
off of any poll tracked by
RealClearPolitics.

basilico:
What evidence have you seen about climate change apart from 99% of scientists funded research.
I have seen beach fronts being snapped up by Obama, Kerry, Been Sanders, Al Gore etc at dirt cheap prices.The same unscientific clowns who predicted Manhattan being under water by 2020.

seasonal inconsistencies especially even in Nigeria which ofcourse has really changed a lot in recent times.

Increased heat. Floodings. Global warming. Etc.Plenty of evidence.

I know trump says there's nothing like climate change and so at this point you have no choice but to also irredeemably align with him..reality will hit you hard and by then we will be right here waiting to tell you "but we told you"

Timiofak:
Even trump himself knows climate change is real, he was asked yesterday, he gave a retarded answer. Assuming he didn't believe it real, he would have surely said that there is nothing like climate change. But some people that have zilch idea about climate say it's a lie okay na

many of trumps followers love him for sometimes just having different views from the norm and so they feel he is the man on of the moment..until reality hits them hard just as covid is doing right now..

Timiofak:
Even trump himself knows climate change is real, he was asked yesterday, he gave a retarded answer. Assuming he didn't believe it real, he would have surely said that there is nothing like climate change. But some people that have zilch idea about climate say it's a lie okay na

Climate change evidence of it being real.
Sahara, Atacama deserts et al were caused by burning fossil fuels
When you bring an argument that 99% of scientists in peer reviewed papers have said so. It's called a strawman argument.
A video of Ted Cruz grilling a Climate change scientist Sierra Club who only had that strawman argument.
Watch and be enlightened on how this guy has no proof before a senate committee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl9-tY1oZNw

AbdulSleeky:
So you still want America to spend more on military when they outspend all other countries 3 to 1?

You cultists never cease to amaze me.

I don't remember saying America should spend more on their military.
Going green when other nuclear powers are not will leave America at a disadvantage.

Timiofak:
Imagine in the early 1900s when they wanted to start mass-producing cars and jets, one idiot would have surely said. You have to damage the earth for metals etc. And China is moving sir, think mr man

Wait, China is going green?
What am I missing here?

basilico:
The same people who had Hillary up.

On its final poll released Nov. 7, the
day before Election Day, Rasmussen
had up 2 points on
. Clinton won the
popular vote by 1 percentage point,
even though Donald Trump beat her
on electoral votes.
No other pollster tracked by
RealClearPolitics came as close to the
final results.
No other pollster tracked by
RealClearPolitics came as close to the
final results.
"The media created a false narrative
about the 2016 presidential campaign,
and most polling reinforced it,"
Rasmussen wrote on its website
Thursday. "Our polling showed that
issues, not the media-fed
controversies, would ultimately decide
the election."
Only one polling entity tracked by
RealClearPolitics had Trump leading
going into Election Day: A
collaboration poll between Investor's
Business Daily and TechnoMetrica
Market Intelligence that had Trump
leading by two points.
Most other polls tracked by
RealClearPolitics showed Clinton
leading by three or four points. The
Monmouth University poll showed
Clinton leading by six — the furthest
off of any poll tracked by
RealClearPolitics.

First of all I have told you, Trump winning 2016 was an unprecedented error. Second of all Trafalgar group polls predicted a trump win. So when you say Msm had it wrong, no they didn't

pryme:
Wait, China is going green?
What am I missing here?

You keep claiming to know, and you know nothing sir.

China is the world's leader right now in renewable energy, link below

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_China

The US is second to china in renewable energy, they have double the energy America produces in renewable energy, so if America wants to be great they need to beat china, and china is moving at such a ridiculous speed that if America ignores China for another 4 years, they might never meet up.

benalvino2:
Also... With the laws of thermodynamics... Each time you charge your battery you lose mileage so at a point you will need to replace those batteries. Again emissions problem persists but reduced too

You have to put into consideration a charge covers over 200 miles. The average life of battery is 8 years also. Comparing to fossil and relating it with carbon emissions in same average time lies the advantages to the environment

bayelsaowei:
seasonal inconsistencies especially even in Nigeria which ofcourse has really changed a lot in recent times.

Increased heat. Floodings. Global warming. Etc.Plenty of evidence.

I know trump says there's nothing like climate change and so at this point you have no choice but to also irredeemably align with him..reality will hit you hard and by then we will be right here waiting to tell you "but we told you"

Before the first milliliter of oil was ever used, there were no floods, no hot summer heat waves, gazillions of polar bears, no buried islands etc
Don't conflate smog with climate change.
I had posted a link about climate change junk science some time ago. Here is the link.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/02/global_warmings_50_years_of_fraud.html


I always say for all economies we would rather have educated people hawking say roast chicken than illiterates.
I have also posted a link to Sierra club senate committee hearing a few minutes ago.
There is climate change caused by fossil fuels, where is the evidence?

basilico:
Climate change evidence of it being real.
Sahara, Atacama deserts et al were caused by burning fossil fuels
When you bring an argument that 99% of scientists in peer reviewed papers have said so. It's called a strawman argument.
A video of Ted Cruz grilling a Climate change scientist Sierra Club who only had that strawman argument.
Watch and be enlightened on how this guy has no proof before a senate committee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl9-tY1oZNw

you have said it is not real before, and NASA said it is, so why should I argue with you about it.

so enjoy.

AbdulSleeky:
I think they closed down one time.......I am not sure if they are still open.

Anyhoo, If you are in Lagos this december and want to have fun, holla at me.

That is fine and hopefully this virus will be on it's way down here. It's scary to get on a plane now.

salford1:
So we should continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid.
We should keep destroying our environment because Russia and China are doing it?
Should people continue stealing, because a few others are getting away with it?
Is this a Nigerian logic? I hope not.

Sorry dude, this is not wishful thinking.
We are dealing with realty, until there is something like a global accord for finding alternative energy source, you won't place your country at a disadvantage all in the name of virtue signaling.

I don't know about the Russians of recent but we all know what length China can go to, to attain world power.

Until there is a global discussion about cutting carbon emissions to Zero, no nuclear power can be trusted to switch to wind turbines and solar energy or even nuclear energy.

Mind you, you will need manufacturing plants to build the infrastructures for the new energy sources so you will still need fossil fuel to get there.

Timiofak:
First of all I have told you, Trump winning 2016 was an unprecedented error. Second of all Trafalgar group polls predicted a trump win. So when you say Msm had it wrong, no they didn't

A popular debate moment is when the proponents of a topic invite the worthy opponents to cross the floor and join them.

Trump doing 46% is yuuge. Bigly.

He won 30 states to Clinton 20, won 2600 counties to Clinton 476 . That's how the EC was defined to function. Furthermore minus California Trump had more popular votes than her.

More on China and going green

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02464-5

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dominicdudley/2019/01/11/china-renewable-energy-superpower/

pryme:
Sorry dude, this is not wishful thinking.
We are dealing with realty, until there is something like a global accord for finding alternative energy source, you won't place your country at a disadvantage all in the name of virtue signaling.

I don't know about the Russians of recent but we all know what length China can go to, to attain world power.

Until there is a global discussion about cutting carbon emissions to Zero, no nuclear power can be trusted to switch to wind turbines and solar energy or even nuclear energy.

Mind you, you will need manufacturing plants to build the infrastructures for the new energy sources so you will still need fossil fuel to get there.

No one said they are cutting fossil fuel

it's a transition, that can take the next 30 years, but the earlier the better.

Timiofak:
No one said they are cutting fossil fuel

it's a transition, that can take the next 30 years, but the earlier the better.

100/100

basilico:
After the debate the Rasmussen polls have Trump at 46% approval among blacks.

Morning Reader Data Points:
National Daily Black Likely Voter Job
Approval For @POTUS – October 19-23,
2020
Mon 10/19 – 25%
Tue 10/20 – 24%
Wed 10/21 – 31%
Thu 10/22 – 37%
Fri 10/23 – 46%
— Rasmussen Reports
(@Rasmussen_Poll) October 23, 2020

This has never happened before

Timiofak:
you have said it is not real before, and NASA said it is, so why should I argue with you about it.

so enjoy.

You ain't the type that goes down taking Trump signs off people's backyard, neither would you block a MAGA hat wearing they/them service
Watch the video, you will know where I'm coming from RE Climate change junk science.

Timiofak:
You keep claiming to know, and you know nothing sir.

China is the world's leader right now in renewable energy, link below

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_China

The US is second to china in renewable energy, they have double the energy America produces in renewable energy, so if America wants to be great they need to beat china, and china is moving at such a ridiculous speed that if America ignores China for another 4 years, they might never meet up.

So America should try and step up to the country with the highest carbon emission rate? Are we talking going green here or renewable energy?

basilico:
A popular debate moment is when the proponents of a topic invite the worthy opponents to cross the floor and join them.

Trump doing 46% is yuuge. Bigly.

He won 30 states to Clinton 20, won 2600 counties to Clinton 476 . That's how the EC was defined to function. Furthermore minus California Trump had more popular votes than her.

Lmao, now minus how much California have on the gdp since we All want to be mad. And people should determine who leads them, not lands dammit.

The first image shows population density, while the second shows how lands determine

Timiofak:
More on China and going green

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02464-5

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dominicdudley/2019/01/11/china-renewable-energy-superpower/

Assume you use an iPhone. Globe Awards Jan 2020 Rick tears into Apple CEO.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTXTOGdnVzQ

pryme:
So America should try and step up to the country with the highest carbon emission rate? Are we talking going green here or renewable energy?

Another strawman analogy, like it's not Americans that own most of the companies there.

basilico:
You ain't the type that goes down taking Trump signs off people's backyard, neither would you block a MAGA hat wearing they/them service
Watch the video, you will know where I'm coming from RE Climate change junk science.

Ok

basilico:
Assume you use an iPhone. Globe Awards Jan 2020 Rick tears into Apple CEO.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTXTOGdnVzQ

What does this have with what we are talking about?

Timiofak:
Ok

The Sierra Club chair was trying to sell ice cream to Eskimos. He met Lion Ted.

Timiofak:
Another strawman analogy, like it's not Americans that own most of the companies there.

Stick to the topic, we are talking GOING GREEN.
Am not playing that game.

China has the highest carbon emission rate, your model for America to emulate.
Do you think China care?