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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:59pm On Oct 23, 2020
Timiofak:
Lmao, now minus how much California have on the gdp since we All want to be mad. And people should determine who leads them, not lands dammit.

The first image shows population density, while the second shows how lands determine
Without Calif votes, Trump beat Clinton in popular vote count

Calif has been saying they want to secede, a decision they cannot pull on their own. With worlds 5th or 7th largest economy It would put a dent on the Fed tax income though. The leftists in Hollywood had said they would relocate to Canada among other nations had Trump won. None except Tom Hanks who moved to The Mediterranean made good their promises. Tom Hanks was a too close guest of Epstein, Qanon has it's ridiculous explanation for that.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 5:03pm On Oct 23, 2020
basilico:
Before the first milliliter of oil was ever used, there were no floods, no hot summer heat waves, gazillions of polar bears, no buried islands etc
Don't conflate smog with climate change.
I had posted a link about climate change junk science some time ago. Here is the link.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/02/global_warmings_50_years_of_fraud.html


I always say for all economies we would rather have educated people hawking say roast chicken than illiterates.
I have also posted a link to Sierra club senate committee hearing a few minutes ago.
There is climate change caused by fossil fuels, where is the evidence?
1. There have always been floods, heat waves and other phenomenons, however the intensity, rapidity and magnitude of it in recent times is becoming more of a concern which ofcourse is attributed to man's activities and carbon emissions overtime. There is nothing that happens in the world today that has not happened before, but when we see the same things happening like never before we must shrewdly get to the root cause.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Timiofak(m): 5:03pm On Oct 23, 2020
pryme:
Stick to the topic, we are talking GOING GREEN.
Am not playing that game.

China has the highest carbon emission rate, your model for America to emulate.
Do you think China care?
Lmao, point to exactly where I said America should have the same carbon emission rate as China?

And in fact us currently have almost the same carbon emissions of 5.3 billion metric tons, while China as 9.8 billion metric tons, while the us population is 330 million, while China is 1.4 billion, so what are we talking about?

And yes china care, they plans to end co2 emissions in the next 40 years, link below

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/china-says-it-will-stop-releasing-co2-within-40-years/

So china is really growing green, I know it's hard to accept, that Republicans are m*rons
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 5:03pm On Oct 23, 2020
CoronaVirusRelo:
You have to put into consideration a charge covers over 200 miles. The average life of battery is 8 years also. Comparing to fossil and relating it with carbon emissions in same average time lies the advantages to the environment
A lot of factors determines the average life of a battery. Are you over charging? Are you understand charging? What is the drainage percentage before you charge. Temperature... Although the batteries are cooled by air but we have different climates. At the end of the day that 8 years is best case scenario. You might be looking at most 6years.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Timiofak(m): 5:05pm On Oct 23, 2020
basilico:
Without Calif votes, Trump beat Clinton in popular vote count

Calif has been saying they want to secede, a decision they cannot pull on their own. With worlds 5th or 7th largest economy It would put a dent on the Fed tax income though. The leftists in Hollywood had said they would relocate to Canada among other nations had Trump won. None except Tom Hanks who moved to The Mediterranean made good their promises. Tom Hanks was a too close guest of Epstein, Qanon has it's ridiculous explanation for that.
Lmao I can make this argument for electoral college votes too, since we all want to be mad. Remove texas 38 EC and Hillary would have won easily.

Like everything isn't part of America.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:06pm On Oct 23, 2020
Timiofak:
What does this have with what we are talking about?
Your kowtowing to China who brought us the Wuhan virus. Communists want global domination it took Reagan to bring their main sponsor down.
China cares about being dominant, whether their citizens work in sweat House they can always hold leverage on the big mega corps.
Many Chinese companies with a global reach have the govt as a primary backer or guarantee.
And people like Joe Biden are held by their balls by the Chinese
The panda cares about the panda simple.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:08pm On Oct 23, 2020
Timiofak:
Lmao I can make this argument for electoral college votes too, since we all want to be mad. Remove texas 38 EC and Hillary would have won easily.

Like everything isn't part of America.
I agree. Texas and Florida are a match made in heaven for Trump. Without them Reps would never win.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 5:10pm On Oct 23, 2020
bayelsaowei:
I even expect trump to be talking more about carbon capture storage as a way to handle carbon emissions even if he insists on dieing in fracking and oil exploration/production. I expect him to discuss about ways to reduce carbon emissions. But the guy has come out to throw down the scientific researches and findings on climate change..

A human with zilch knowledge about science disputing scientific findings that we see the evidence day in day out..
They are but it's not something they rush. The money us pays for climate change in search for renewable energy were just going into the pockets of politicians.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Timiofak(m): 5:10pm On Oct 23, 2020
basilico:
Your kowtowing to China who brought us the Wuhan virus. Communists want global domination it took Reagan to bring their main sponsor down.
China cares about being dominant, whether their citizens work in sweat House they can always hold leverage on the big mega corps.
Many Chinese companies with a global reach have the govt as a primary backer or guarantee.
And people like Joe Biden are held by their balls by the Chinese
The panda cares about the panda simple.
This is imbecilic at best, I already told you that if the republicans continue at this path, there worst nightmare would happen. Because they hate china and ignore science, everything is a socialist idea, it's stupidity at best.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Timiofak(m): 5:10pm On Oct 23, 2020
basilico:
I agree. Texas and Florida are a match made in heaven for Trump. Without them Reps would never win.
Ehn ehn
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Timiofak(m): 5:12pm On Oct 23, 2020
Republicans make me marvel at times, imagine a senator asking what would happen to 270 million cars? Like in the next 30 years those cars wouldn't have faded away.

It's a transition gaddamit

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:12pm On Oct 23, 2020
bayelsaowei:
1. There have always been floods, heat waves and other phenomenons, however the intensity, rapidity and magnitude of it in recent times is becoming more of a concern which ofcourse is attributed to man's activities and carbon emissions overtime. There is nothing that happens in the world today that has not happened before, but when we see the same things happening like never before we must shrewdly get to the root cause.
Where is the evidence.
When was the thermometer to measure temperatures in the sea invented and recorded whether it's on those Egyptian scrolls or in PDF form.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 5:14pm On Oct 23, 2020
bayelsaowei:
how long? You will be shocked that in the next 50 years the international companies will have reduced hydrocarbon production drastically by %80. Probably Africa might still be stuck on oil, but not the western and advanced world. The reality is hitting everyone already.
Chemicals cannot store the necessary energy needed for a lot of things. There will always be fossil fuel or we will need nuclear reactors. Nuclear reactors can work as steam engines or hotair engines (sterling engines) you can't have both on anything that is not close to water because they produce a lot of heat and needs cooling else you have meltdown and radiation leak
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 5:14pm On Oct 23, 2020
benalvino2:
A lot of factors determines the average life of a battery. Are you over charging? Are you understand charging? What is the drainage percentage before you charge. Temperature... Although the batteries are cooled by air but we have different climates. At the end of the day that 8 years is best case scenario. You might be looking at most 6years.
Battery Warranty is 8 years. And all the constrain you mentioned definitely would have been factored into design. If a normal car can adapt and run in all climate conditions, how much more far advanced electric cars.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 5:20pm On Oct 23, 2020
bayelsaowei:
1. There have always been floods, heat waves and other phenomenons, however the intensity, rapidity and magnitude of it in recent times is becoming more of a concern which ofcourse is attributed to man's activities and carbon emissions overtime. There is nothing that happens in the world today that has not happened before, but when we see the same things happening like never before we must shrewdly get to the root cause.
There is no scientific data to back up your claim.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 5:22pm On Oct 23, 2020
CoronaVirusRelo:
Battery Warranty is 8 years. And all the constrain you mentioned definitely would have been factored into design. If a normal car can adapt and run in all climate conditions, how much more far advanced electric cars.
Even if that is the case they will have to replace it. The point we are making is developing the batteries does more arm to the earth than developing fossil fuel
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 5:24pm On Oct 23, 2020
benalvino2:
They are but it's not something they rush. The money us pays for climate change in search for renewable energy were just going into the pockets of politicians.
ben they are not rushing neither are they lagging back..fossils will eventually be highly left behind in the next 50 years. Only africa maybe would be neck deep in hydrocarbon production whilst the rest of the world must have left us behind.

America needs to be in that train of transition before they are caught fooling around.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 5:24pm On Oct 23, 2020
benalvino2:
There is no scientific data to back up your claim.
You guys now believe in science?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 5:25pm On Oct 23, 2020
ANOTHER TRUMP PEACE DEAL: President Trump has just announced that he brokered another major agreement, this one between Sudan and Israel - who have agreed to normalize relations. This follows two Trump peace deals between Israel and Bahrain, and Israel and the UAE.

All the Muslim countries that wants to kill Israel is now friends with them.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:25pm On Oct 23, 2020
benalvino2:
Chemicals cannot store the necessary energy needed for a lot of things. There will always be fossil fuel or we will need nuclear reactors. Nuclear reactors can work as steam engines or hotair engines (sterling engines) you can't have both on anything that is not close to water because they produce a lot of heat and needs cooling else you have meltdown and radiation leak
Why not just use fossil fuels to charge electric vehicles in order to please activists. Oil engines have typical efficiencies of less than 55%. Burn 100KW of fuel to produce max 55KW to power electric vehicles with less than 60% efficiency. Those are best case scenarios. Use 100KW to power EV which produces 33KW.
lunacy at it's best.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 5:26pm On Oct 23, 2020
sanpipita:
You guys now believe in science?
Did we ever say we don't believe in science?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 5:29pm On Oct 23, 2020
basilico:
Why not just use fossil fuels to charge electric vehicles in order to please activists. Oil engines have typical efficiencies of less than 55%. Burn 100MW of fuel to produce max 55MW to power electric vehicles with less than 60% efficiency.
This is oxymoron. Defeats the purpose of electric car. How can you use diesel generator to charge the car? You could as well buy an hybrid that uses fuel and battery and no need for charging stations
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:30pm On Oct 23, 2020
benalvino2:
Did we ever say we don't believe in science?
We believe in science not Junk science.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Nobody: 5:30pm On Oct 23, 2020
benalvino2:
Chemicals cannot store the necessary energy needed for a lot of things. There will always be fossil fuel or we will need nuclear reactors. Nuclear reactors can work as steam engines or hotair engines (sterling engines) you can't have both on anything that is not close to water because they produce a lot of heat and needs cooling else you have meltdown and radiation leak
If the aero industry is already on the verge of growing green, what other required energy are u talking about? If Nuclear energy is explored to safest operations. even direct electricity will play a more vital role in the shift from fossil fuel.

In advanced countries, How many manufacturing plants still run operations on fossil? Courier, Automobile, Telecom and several industry are shifting away from dependence on fossil
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 5:31pm On Oct 23, 2020
benalvino2:
There is no scientific data to back up your claim.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:32pm On Oct 23, 2020
benalvino2:
This is oxymoron. Defeats the purpose of electric car. How can you use diesel generator to charge the car? You could as well buy an hybrid that uses fuel and battery and no need for charging stations
Liberal snowflakes will feel good cruising in the Teslas and Co.
After all power comes from that socket outlet
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 5:33pm On Oct 23, 2020
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:34pm On Oct 23, 2020
[quote author=bayelsaowei post=95254001][/quote]Back to that junk science hockey stick temperature changes? Which thermometer was in the sea in 1900?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 5:34pm On Oct 23, 2020
basilico:
Why not just use fossil fuels to charge electric vehicles in order to please activists. Oil engines have typical efficiencies of less than 55%. Burn 100KW of fuel to produce max 55KW to power electric vehicles with less than 60% efficiency. Those are best case scenarios. Use 100KW to power EV which produces 33KW.
lunacy at it's best.
I don't know about this. But I know fuel energy efficiency... Like only 30% is used and 70% is lost in heat and other process. Whereas electric cars used 90% of its power efficiently. Electric cars has better torque and acceleration compared to fuel. Cause it's just the motor connected to the power when fuel... A lot is involved. Like most if the energy is lost in the transmission system. The gears and friction
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 5:35pm On Oct 23, 2020
basilico:
Back to that junk science hockey stick temperature changes?
that data is from nasa...can I have your own data from your lab to prove them wrong?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bayelsaowei(m): 5:36pm On Oct 23, 2020
benalvino2:
There is no scientific data to back up your claim.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/global-warming-real/


Meanwhile if you have your own empirical evidence and lab results you can share it to negate what has been researched already
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 5:37pm On Oct 23, 2020
[quote author=bayelsaowei post=95254001][/quote]There are some questions you have to asked yourself.
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