kabe1:


That defence budget is more than that of Algeria?

its not the annual budget , moroccan defence buget for 2020 is 4,25 billion euros ( 5.04 billion dollars ) , the 10,35 billion euros ( 12 billion dollars ) are a special fund for the purchase and maintenance of equipments plan for 5 to 10 years .

algerian defence budget for 2020 is around 13 billion dollars .

kabe1:
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Helicopters and sunset! Reminds me of "hard way the only way" movie

Mi 24 MK III , algerian AF .. new pic

C28A corvette , Algerien navy

2 880 tons , 120 m .
- 1× 76 mm Main Gun
- 2 × 30 mm Type-730 CIWS.
- 8 launchers for C-802 missiles
- 8 launchers for HQ-7 naval short-range air defence missiles
- 6 torpedos launchers ( 2 × Triple 324mm torpedo launchers) .

F16 , Chinook , Panther morocco

moroccan Navy naval training and simulation center

LTGEN:
Nigeria needs to take a pass on doing Biz Military wise with S’Africa .South Africa is among the unreliable Countries that will drag out the production and eventual handover of Military equipment.
Chad wanted to buy Military equipment from S’Africa, they gave the green light , South Africa was unable to fulfill the request .
Chad would turn to ProForce in Nigeria for the same requirements.
True S’Africa has Missile Technology, but it is not for Sale.
It also is not worth the hassle, the baggage that comes with it.
There is a difference between national pride and priorities.
The Nigerian priority is two fold
G2-G2 Contracts with no baggage .
Military industrial complex to build Weapons such as APCs,MRAPs, Rockets , UAVs/UCAVs and eventually Missiles.
The “ Embarrassment “ of the GEJ years and the front page news of Nigeria trying to buy weapons from S’Africa should be an enduring lesson as to why Nigeria should ALWAYS pass when it comes to South Africa.

Actually,no,imo,here's why. They'd be eager to do a TOT. I know for a fact Paramount is ready to set up a plant for TOT for any serious foreign buyer. You need CAS NOW! If you'd begun discussions early last year your first Mwaris would be ready-but you're stuck still waiting for Tucs to be delivered in another 2 years.

First ever video footage of Nigerian army 155mm heavy artillery firing.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJg3KObpK-E

God bless this soldier educating this miscreants on police uniform


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0zbWP8KtvE

chkil1:
C28A corvette , Algerien navy

2 880 tons , 120 m .
- 1× 76 mm Main Gun
- 2 × 30 mm Type-730 CIWS.
- 8 launchers for C-802 missiles
- 8 launchers for HQ-7 naval short-range air defence missiles
- 6 torpedos launchers ( 2 × Triple 324mm torpedo launchers) .

This is obviously a destroyer because it has 6 torpedo tubes....

chkil1:
Toyota station , ideal for the desert , used by border guard algeria

Fyi, the Landcruiser 75 series is accepted as the most reliable 4wd by those who know! Its for placed WITH NO ROADS like driving across the DRC or neighbouring CAR. Iow, places where Landrovers, Cherokees and Range Rovers will just cry and immediately seize.
The Chadians used them so effectively against the Libyans the 87 war was called the Toyota war.
This is a typical Landcruiser 75 role, an Aussie army vehicle patrol on Bougainville island.

youghs:


The design is terrible.
No offense.

Srsly! It works in savanna, semi desert, true desert and JUNGLE. The colour pattern is effective in MULTIPLE ENVIRONMENTS AND SEASONS.

kabe1:
The Nigerian Navy needs $1.3 billion to acquire new hardware to secure its territorial waters, according to Navy Chief of Naval Staff (CNS) Vice-Admiral Ibok-Ete Ekwe Ibas, who is seeking the acquisition of at least five new ships.

Addressing a public hearing organised by the House of Representatives Committee on Maritime Safety and Administration, Ibas said the required long term acquisitions include a general-purpose frigate valued at $350 million, a long-endurance Offshore Patrol Vessel (OPV) valued at $120 million, a medium-endurance OPV estimated at $60 million, a landing platform dock ship worth $350 million and a landing ship-tank valued $90 million.

Other required assets include a submarine worth $300 million, a Seaward Defence Boat (SDB) worth $10 million and a specialised naval security helicopter at an estimated cost of $25 million.

A SUB!? Yes, you can pick up a Kilo for that price but running costs which EVERYONE either ignores of forgets is 16 mn annually.
Also 1 sub with its heavy maintenance/training/ ops cycle is meaningless. To account for the latter you'd need minimum 3 subs which would necessitate construction of a Shore Based Sub Support Facility for repair, maintainence and testing. This ofc is financially akin to buying a 4th sub.
There's no escaping this critical sub support infrastructure which is why the Saffas and Algerians each have their own.

kikuyu1:


A SUB!? Yes, you can pick up a Kilo for that price but running costs which EVERYONE either ignores of forgets is 16 mn annually.
Also 1 sub with its heavy maintenance/training/ ops cycle is meaningless. To account for the latter you'd need minimum 3 subs which would necessitate construction of a Shore Based Sub Support Facility for repair, maintainence and testing. This ofc is financially akin to buying a 4th sub.
There's no escaping this critical sub support infrastructure which is why the Saffas and Algerians each have their own.

Calm down, there is nothing in buying a submarine. If South-Africa can afford it, so can Nigeria.

The reason why the Nigerian navy hasn't but any is because of other urgent requirements and threat assessment.

kabe1:


Egypt has the strongest military in Africa, followed by Algeria then Morocco.

After these 3, you have regional powers, Nigeria in west-africa, South-Africa in the Southern region and Ethiopia in the East African region.

How sure are you of this? Do you have FACTS and figured for discussion? HAVE you compared individual army tactics , doctrines, working platforms, battlefield success and/or per capita spend per soldier?
Out of curiosity WHY do YOU say Ethiopia? I know someone who interacted closely with them and HIS studies were INTERESTING! Do you know what happened to ENDF units that barged into Mog' 2007?

kabe1:


Calm down, there is nothing in buying a submarine. If South-Africa can afford it, so can Nigeria.

The reason why the Nigerian navy hasn't but any is because of other urgent requirements and threat assessment.

Ok!

chkil1:


according to moroccan military sites , its only a Far-right spanish politics propaganda to put a pressur on spanish gouvernment to increase its military budget .

the 12 billion dollars budget for acquisition is correct .

I was shocked! Fake news is more common than we know.

kikuyu1:


Fyi, the Landcruiser 75 series is accepted as the most reliable 4wd by those who know! Its for placed WITH NO ROADS like driving across the DRC or neighbouring CAR. Iow, places where Landrovers, Cherokees and Range Rovers will just cry and immediately seize.
The Chadians used them so effectively against the Libyans the 87 war was called the Toyota war.
This is a typical Landcruiser 75 role, an Aussie army vehicle patrol on Bougainville island.

seconded.... The land cruiser is legendary

longmoor army training camp, Hampshire England

kabe1:
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why hasn't SA prioritised an upgrade to this roovaik?
pretty sleek.

That's how things get muddy, a soldier threatening to charge a police officer, under what authority? Unless war was declared in that area or zone, the sole Authority btw those two men, is the police officer, not the soldier.
But of course in Nigeria who the fvk cares about such. In sane countries, soldiers have zero authority in civilian areas and on the street, unless they were deployed there under state of emergency

seankafor:
God bless this soldier educating this miscreants on police uniform


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0zbWP8KtvE

Sizzorkay:
That's how things get muddy, a soldier threatening to charge a police officer, under what authority? Unless war was declared in that area or zone, the sole Authority btw those two men, is the police officer, not the soldier.
But of course in Nigeria who the fvk cares about such. In sane countries, soldiers have zero authority in civilian areas and on the street, unless they were deployed there

The Officer was right Firing teargas and live ammunition wouldn’t de-escalate the situation .
Let’s try something else .
Everything cannot be solved by bullets.
You would be the first to criticize the NA Officer if he didn’t intervene.

And how did you know i would be the 1st? you don't know me.
I'm saying each branch of Nigeria's security apparatus should have a clear responsibility, under the law. You missed that part? That's why you have soldiers and cops always fighting in major cities, good luck with that though

LTGEN:

The Officer was right Firing teargas and live ammunition wouldn’t de-escalate the situation .
Let’s try something else .
Everything cannot be solved by bullets.
You would be the first to criticize the NA Officer if he didn’t intervene.

Sizzorkay:
That's how things get muddy, a soldier threatening to charge a police officer, under what authority? Unless war was declared in that area or zone, the sole Authority btw those two men, is the police officer, not the soldier.
But of course in Nigeria who the fvk cares about such. In sane countries, soldiers have zero authority in civilian areas and on the street, unless they were deployed there under state of emergency

Alaye firstly if the police could do their work, why was the military involved in it. Secondly we all know any little chance the police will overuse it, the officer didn't do anything wrong correcting him. brutality isn't everything but dialogue, there are cases of nig police officers using dialogue to calm down situations.

Doesn't change the point i was making, chain of command, if those cops are there, in better countries, those cops will have commanders on scene, without soldiers getting involved, or deployed. So the issue isn't even about the poor cops, it's the fact that they don't have senior police officers there to lead those cops. Still, soldiers can't charge cops, i doubt that even happen in Nigeria, he doesn't have the power

Mulatta:

Alaye firstly if the police could do their work, why was the military involved in it. Secondly we all know any little chance the police will overuse it, the officer didn't do anything wrong correcting him. brutality isn't everything but dialogue, there are cases of nig police officers using dialogue to calm down situations.

Sizzorkay:
Doesn't change the point i was making, chain of command, if those cops are there, in better countries, those cops will have commanders on scene, without soldiers getting involved, or deployed. So the issue isn't even about the poor cops, it's the fact that they don't have senior police officers there to lead those cops. Still, soldiers can't charge cops, i doubt that even happen in Nigeria, he doesn't have the power

Too bad this is nigeria, the chain of command here is military first, police later. Even in other better countries so far the military has been involved the police have to stay on the bench. The issue should be, the nigeria police should learn to be professional so that they don't get to involve the military. Do your job everyone will be happy gaskiani

Sizzorkay:
Doesn't change the point i was making, chain of command, if those cops are there, in better countries, those cops will have commanders on scene, without soldiers getting involved, or deployed. So the issue isn't even about the poor cops, it's the fact that they don't have senior police officers there to lead those cops. Still, soldiers can't charge cops, i doubt that even happen in Nigeria, he doesn't have the power

In many other developed countries, once the military comes in, they take over, but suspects as it's done in Nigeria also are handed over to the police for prosecution.

The soldier did not say he was charging the police officer, he clearly said he would report the police officer to force headquarters for disciplinary action to be taken.

He(soldier) also asked one of the guys with him to start filming the interaction so as to be used as evidence.

I really don't see what you're complaining about.

As it is, from reports, there is a near total break down of law & order in Nigeria. The military and security agencies have to act fast.

Sizzorkay:
And how did you know i would be the 1st? you don't know me.
I'm saying each branch of Nigeria's security apparatus should have a clear responsibility, under the law. You missed that part? That's why you have soldiers and cops always fighting in major cities, good luck with that though

You first need to understand the climate, the police are currently overwhelmed.

Besides the laws regarding these sorts of engagement is clear, the soldier stepped in to douse an already tensed situation.

Sizzorkay:
That's how things get muddy, a soldier threatening to charge a police officer, under what authority?

It is not everything you nag and complain about.

Sizzorkay:
Doesn't change the point i was making, chain of command, if those cops are there, in better countries, those cops will have commanders on scene, without soldiers getting involved, or deployed. So the issue isn't even about the poor cops, it's the fact that they don't have senior police officers there to lead those cops. Still, soldiers can't charge cops, i doubt that even happen in Nigeria, he doesn't have the power

The police officer is an ACP (Assistant commissioner of police) who was clearly leading the cops there while the Airforce officer is an Air Commodore.