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tesppidd:
Truth?

Most of you have really braced up to attack Messi till match day 38 just to justify your foolish position that he should have been sold.

This is the player ratings by the popular Daily Independent.

I will give you more.


Barcelona:

Neto – 5. Most of Madrid’s efforts on goal were fired straight at him, and there was little he could do about Valverde’s opener. Came close to stopping the penalty, and made a brilliant double save late on, but also made a vital error that contributed to a goal.

Sergino Dest – 7. The American international looked comfortable throughout, with Vinicius struggling to impact the game. Dest was solid both offensively and defensively in an encouraging performance.

Clement Lenglet – 4. He was caught out several times, and foolishly fouled Ramos for the penalty.

Gerard Pique – 6. After the whirlwind start, Pique started to settle into the game and kept Madrid quiet.



Jordi Alba – 8. A fine performance by Alba, who rolled back the years with a classic outing. The Spaniard bombed up and down the left, and excellently assisted Fati for the equaliser.

Sergio Busquets – 6. The veteran kept Barcelona ticking, but he didn’t stay with the run of Valverde for the Uruguayan’s opening goal.


Frenkie De Jong – 5. A quiet game for De Jong, who seemed to suffer from the deep play of Coutinho and Messi. He was dominated by Kroos, but was better in the second half.


Pedri – 6. Whilst Pedri should be commended for becoming the second-youngest player in El Clasico history, it wasn’t a performance to remember as the 17-year old was quiet throughout.

Philippe Coutinho – 6. The Brazilian failed to impact the game how he would have wanted, and he perhaps should have scored early in the second half.

Ansu Fati – 7. Fati was brilliant in the first half, and continues to live up to the enormous hype. He was a threat throughout, and scored the equaliser when he turned in Alba’s cross.


Lionel Messi – 7. The Argentine magician played a brilliant through ball to Alba, who set up Fati for the equaliser. Almost scored a brilliant goal after spinning Ramos.

Substitutes:

Antoine Griezmann – 6.

Ousmane Dembele – 6.

Francisco Trincao – 6.

Real Madrid:

Thibaut Courtois – 6. The Belgian had little to do, and was certainly not at fault for the equaliser.

Nacho – 5. He struggled against Fati before suffering an injury that ended his game prematurely.

Sergio Ramos – 8. He dealt with most of Barcelona’s attacks, and showed why he is so important to Madrid’s backline. Won and scored the winning penalty.


Raphael Varane – 7. The Frenchman is a calm, assured presence at p

Carbon2Oxide:
After the brilliant ball...What else

What else?

Messi woke up feeling DANGEROUS vs Madrid

- 0 goals
- 0 assists
- 1 key pass
- 2/4 dribbles
- 17 times possession lost
- 75% pass accuracy
- 1 shot on target
- Lost

tesppidd:
They removed passes and gave us key passes.
They removed number of times he had possession and what they gave us is possession lost.

You don't post stats like this in isolation. You post the player's stats and juxtapose with the stats of other players to see how he performed.


By the way;
Nobody says he was the best against Madrid.

Nobody says he was excellent against Madrid.


But meatheads came up from the blues, singled him out and labelled him a lazy footballer.

When despite his relatively "bad" game, he was still among the best performers.

That was your first reaction "Messi is a lazy footballer"

Can your now see how idiotic you sounded.?

Carbon2Oxide:
Bants Son....Bants

Stop trying hard to fight it.... You will implode if you keep doing so

Accept the truth and the L

Carbon2Oxide:
Bants Son....Bants

Stop trying hard to fight it.... You will implode if you keep doing so

Accept the truth and the L

Carbon2Oxide:
After the brilliant ball...What else

What else?

Messi woke up feeling DANGEROUS vs Madrid

- 0 goals
- 0 assists
- 1 key pass
- 2/4 dribbles
- 17 times possession lost
- 75% pass accuracy
- 1 shot on target
- Lost

Krasid:
Where did you get your stats from? He was worse than this. massive decline.

Carbon2Oxide:
[s]Bants Son....Bants

Stop trying hard to fight it.... You will implode if you keep doing so

Accept the truth and the L

[/s]

Krasid:
Where did you get your stats from? He was worse than this. massive decline.

Moura7:
Honestly Messi has really declined. And how dare he? Given the fact that he's not also human like us and is also not susceptible to ageing in a very physical sport as football. Imo I think he needs to be benched for life, cus he hasn't scored from open play in a long while now and the creativity he offers to the team is just so useless eg that pass that opened up Alba in the game vs Sevilla and even today's own was just so useless. We don't need the little to nothing contribution he offered to this team out all, if he can't score from open play then he should be hanged, simple.

LoyalHustler:
The problem of Barcelona are not the players, the problem is the coach which means the management are the problem in the long run.

Imagine Guadiola or klop handling this squad.
Now once again imagine Xavi handling pqui, Dembele, coutinho, dest, lenglent, Fati, Alena, MESSI.

Has it not occur to the coaches that Dembele is not a left winger.

Dembele is a naturally born right winger.

Put Dembele in the Right and watch him bring down walls of Jericho.

His best ever games and highlights are from the Right wing.

Dembele Right, Fati left and Pqui, coutinho and messi in the middle will bring down any defence in the world even if it's the military defense of usa and Russia.

The problem of Barcelona is very very very very simple to solve.

Zidane or klop or Guadiola will use this Barcelona squad to win the champions league and all 9 trophies in a year for five years on a roll.

Any good coach will make history with this club.
This Barcelona squad is the most dangerous and talented anywhere in the world.

I Said what i Said.

jonsnow92:
Koeman is just like a poor stubborn fool whose plan isnt working but has stupid pride that it's his useless way or no other way.
I've never in my life seen a coach who has immense talent on the bench but leaves them till the 80th minute.
Pedri is a fantastic lad but had no business playing that game, at least not as a starter.
Dembele playing 90 minutes would have stretched Nacho/Vasquez a whole lot.
Phil should have been substituted since the 60th minute.
So Fati can play big games and Puig cant play??

God will I ever watch the Barca I fell in love with?

LoyalHustler:
The problem of Barcelona are not the players, the problem is the coach which means the management are the problem in the long run.

Imagine Guadiola or klop handling this squad.
Now once again imagine Xavi handling pqui, Dembele, coutinho, dest, lenglent, Fati, Alena, MESSI.

Has it not occur to the coaches that Dembele is not a left winger.

Dembele is a naturally born right winger.

Put Dembele in the Right and watch him bring down walls of Jericho.

His best ever games and highlights are from the Right wing.

Dembele Right, Fati left and Pqui, coutinho and messi in the middle will bring down any defence in the world even if it's the military defense of usa and Russia.

The problem of Barcelona is very very very very simple to solve.

Zidane or klop or Guadiola will use this Barcelona squad to win the champions league and all 9 trophies in a year for five years on a roll.

Any good coach will make history with this club.
This Barcelona squad is the most dangerous and talented anywhere in the world.

I Said what i Said.

tesppidd:
Dembele needs to be starting games ahead of those younger Trincao and Pedri.
I said it just Before the match.
Besides being better than them he has got the fear factor which they don't have.

Those guys Pedri and Trincao are good no doubt, but they should be introduced sparingly especially for big games like El Clasico.

Messi needs to stick to his position and stop getting himself overburdened.
He needs to trust players like Coutinho and De Jong to pull the strings.
He was playing false 9, but want playing anything like a false 9.
Right, Left, Mdfield and even defence he was there.
The consequence of his 'freelance' is being less effective in attack which is his postion of primary assignment.

Overall from what I saw last night the hole in our football pattern has basically remained from over the years.
Press forward, Press forward, Press forward thereby leave yourself susceptible to counters.

Karleb:
I will agree with you on this even though I'm not a Barcelona fan.

Luiz Enrique who was the last coach you guys had won treble with Barcelona because he had sense.

Valverde who has one quarter of sense was winning Laliga up and down while sleeping on pitch.

GrammarNazi1:
But are De Jong and Cout creative enough?

In all honesty, are they?

Can they hold the midfield and create chances like their lives depend on these tasks?

Messi has relinquished goalscoring just because if he does not play in the midfield in order to hold it and create chances, Barcelona can hardly score a single goal?

And though we have a player like Puig who can improve the midfield, he keeps getting the bench for not being muscled.

GrammarNazi1:
But are De Jong and Cout creative enough?

In all honesty, are they?

Can they hold the midfield and create chances like their lives depend on these tasks?

Messi has relinquished goalscoring just because if he does not play in the midfield in order to hold it and create chances, Barcelona can hardly score a single goal?

And though we have a player like Puig who can improve the midfield, he keeps getting the bench for not being muscled.
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tesppidd:
Honestly it is high time Koeman added Puig to the mix.

Not every player in the team must have that physicality.

GrammarNazi1:
But are De Jong and Cout creative enough?

In all honesty, are they?

Can they hold the midfield and create chances like their lives depend on these tasks?

Messi has relinquished goalscoring just because if he does not play in the midfield in order to hold it and create chances, Barcelona can hardly score a single goal.

And though we have a player like Puig who can improve the midfield, he keeps getting the bench for not being muscled.


I hope you realize that if Messi follows your advice to trust the midfield, critics will still say he is lazy.

Moura7:
Nailed it man.....no disrespect to those two but are they creative enough. Can they spot runs and make those cutting edge through balls? God I miss Iniesta. I think Pedri can tho, when playing in the middle , puig too

Godx:
Where does Liverpool and Bayern Munich creativity come from? Can you enlighten the players let's compare to those at Barca. So you are telling me a midfield three of Countinho,De Jong and Pjanic/Busi can't pass through balls or spot runs or the two fullbacks In alba and dest as well are not creative.

Godx:
Where does Liverpool and Bayern Munich creativity come from? Can you enlighten the players let's compare to those at Barca. So you are telling me a midfield three of Countinho,De Jong and Pjanic/Busi can't pass through balls or spot runs or the two fullbacks In alba and dest as well are not creative.