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| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by Benitoh: 7:35pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
Let's tell ourselves the truth and stop deceiving ourselves. The fundamental principles of Islam are not in line with human modern principles. The earlier we stop defending a religion and tell ourselves pure truth the better, it's time something is done. Before you qoute me remember we living in a free world and can't force and tell somebody how to talk and live in his/her domain abdullahi45: 2 Likes |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by Daddysidhan: 7:36pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
SilverNorGold:DERMMY the terrorists has changed his moniker Lols, what happens are you being tracked? 2 Likes |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by Elsueno: 7:38pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
TheTruthIsHere: That was supposed to be Nigeria, Unfortunately it became a symbol of how greedy, wicked & CORRUPT a black governed country can be. Am even tempeted to believe Africa might be cursed, if not for countries like Botswana |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by abdullahi45: 7:38pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
Agbegbaorogboye: Are you trying to be a Christian Apologist. Isn't it apparent to you that I do not support evil regardless of how it is branded... Stop trying to justify evil perpetrated by/with Christianity in a bid to exonerate the religion. That won't work, you don't throw stones if you live in a glass house. You don't eat your cake and have it! Ku Klux Klan Killig of Manicheaist by Christians Irish Republican Army The Lord's resistance army The Christchurch attack? et cetera And why would you enjoy attacking the whole Islam for the excesses of less than 0.0001%. You won't understand until you are profiled a criminal and drug dealer because you are Black, plus you are a Nigerian. You go read your history as well! On a final note, no religion is inherently evil, those that practice it can make it otherwise. Let's call evil what it is and unite against it, and stop all this shitty and hypocritical self-righteousness... Cheers |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by Benitoh: 7:43pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
I tell you, the Sadi78 guy is very open and doesn't pretend and don't do taquiyya. I like his openness and bluntness. Those ones that pretends are lethal and dangerous. egobetatoday: 1 Like |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by Benitoh: 7:50pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
What you're saying is not far from the truth. They are actually digging there graves with their own hands and actions. humilitypays: |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by abdullahi45: 7:53pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
Benitoh: Sure. The systematic attack on Islamic faith in France in what's referred to as Freedom of Expression is indeed true civilization. But it is indeed ridiculous how Macron himself can not tolerate such hideous freedom of expression from others. Double-standed? The killing of innocent children in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan by US is indeed justifiable because they are threat to global security, right? What about the invasion of Libya, not a conversation for today? The systematic repression of Muslims in China just because they practice their faith is indeed true civilization.. Indeed a free world we inhabit.. What about the maiming and repression of Muslims in India? What about the Christchurch, New Zealand attack? The present Congo Holocaust? Muslims are behind it as well? This so called free world is a dirty one, but just to prove your sentiments you talk about some and leave the remaining that do not fit your narrative. I am against crime and evil regardless of how they are branded. But I wouldn't allow you to lecture me on peace and tolerance , because you are never be in a good position to do that! |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by mdchikezie(m): 7:57pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
Benitoh: 1000% SAY NO MORE |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by abdullahi45: 7:58pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
Benitoh: Sure, the same way you can't tell me how to think or talk. I doubt you know the fundamental principles of Islam. The mainstream media must be your source of information. Islam promotes nothing but Peace and Unity. That less than 0.00001% Muslims are deviating from this standard doesn't make Islam bad get that! Lastly, I really beg of you to stop your self-righteousness Have a good read: https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/06/14/if-islam-is-a-religion-of-violence-so-is-christianity/ |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by Nobody: 8:07pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
Daddysidhan: My brother, I think I am done here. Make una continue with una unchristian attitude. Again, I am a Christian and I am not Dermmy. God bless us all. |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by watchindelta(m): 8:16pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
azmanaty2:you they answer does hypocrite! Come see as they full catholic church the day of free food! They even many pass the Christians that day self. |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by mbaise1000: 8:19pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
SilverNorGold: bros you just want to be politically correct or you are in denial, few days ago all the muslim countries were speaking against macron for trying to protect his people, did any of them condemn the beheading of mr paty? NO. I wouldn't know how you decide who is a good muslim or bad one but the simple truth is that the good muslim is the one that follows the footsteps of mohamad and lives the life mohamad lived and follows his teaching to the letter, and that's what people like this person like osama and suicide bombers are the good muslims, lets face it are you a BETTER muslim than all these countries who behead people all the time in defence of a dead man? can you count the number of people been murdered on defence of this goon? you talk of kkk, do they kill people in defence of Jesus Christ or Christianity? you know why Christians don't kill in the name of Jesus Christ? because they know it will lead to hell but islam believe that the more you kill in defence of mo, the more reward and virgins you get in the imaginary islamic heaven 3 Likes |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by parkervero(m): 8:23pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
SilverNorGold: Out of context? No, the literal translation Those who believed, fight/kill in God`s sake, and those who disbelieved fight/kill in the devil/idol`s sake, so fight/kill the devil`s supporters/allies/followers, that the devil`s conspiracy/deceit was weak. Fight in this context is kill the disbelievers (that is, the kafr) and the disbelieve people of medina that do not believe muhammad and his claims being prophet, so muhammad waged war on them because of the idol they worship. The question is why fight/kill those who do not believe Islam? Similar things he did in 8:57, 67 not there alone even with Christian 33:26 That aside 3. I have given you the types of apostasies, which include minor apostasy like rejecting the religion and major apostasy like rejecting the religion and WAGING WAR ON ALLAH and his Prophet. I can sense the apostasy you did by claiming you are Christian and still vehemently fighting the cause of muhammad /allah 4. War against apostasy? My brother, read with comprehension. The issue is not with apostasy, but attacking the religion and Allah and his Prophet. I have cited verses to justify that. Why did the people in medina attack Islam, muhammad and allah in the first place? Because they disbelieve? Tell me which apostate/atheist you know that attack allah. Mention few people that you know. 5. How countries decide to apply this rule is their own headache. The Quran is pretty clear about this. quran is clear on killing for allah of course. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by NybenSBF101(m): 8:32pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
Fear Muslims |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by compton11(m): 8:36pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
DrChukki:yes it is true,whatever sadness or worries u have,read Al Quran,Quran has answer to it DrChukki:nigga watch your mouth,u won't be happy if any non Christians insult Jesus and we Muslims we never insult him. DrChukki:U read Quran but u read the only one that u see it fits your narrative. DrChukki:there is no where the prophet said that,it is Al Quran that said that and what Al Quran used there is Allies not friend cos allies is more than just a friend. This is the verse about it Suratul maidah v51 O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you – then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people. And this is one of the reasons why Allah said it Quran 2:120 And never will the Jews or the Christians approve of you until you follow their religion. Say, "Indeed, the guidance of Allah is the [only] guidance." If you were to follow their desires after what has come to you of knowledge, you would have against Allah no protector or helper. And it is true cos y'all don't want us to use hijab,go to mosque and Do what Islam permitted is to do,how come we are going to take u as allies? DrChukki:I never see where the prophet said bad about other religious minorities during time.DrChukki post=95475079:cos they are some of the religions this is popular during his time in Arabia and he used to mentioned the pagans too. This is what some of the good the Qur'an says about people of [ Al Quran 2.62] Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve. I guess u never see this [Qur'an 2.83] And when We made a covenant with the children of Israel: You shall not serve any but Allah and (you shall do) good to (your) parents, and to the near of kin and to the orphans and the needy, and you shall speak to men good words and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate. Then you turned back except a few of you and (now too) you turn aside. The Qur’an says: Allah does not forbid you from dealing kindly and fairly with those who have neither fought nor driven you out of your homes.(among the pagans,jews,christians that were not fighting war against Islam)Surely Allah loves those who are fair.} (Al-Mumtahanah 60:  This is some of the Hadith of the prophet(saw) said or did about other religions from authentic source. Jabir ibn Hayyan said: “The Prophet and his Companions stood up for the funeral of a Jew until it disappeared” (Sunan An-Nasa’i). The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) used to do business and enter into dealings with non-Muslims. It was narrated that `A’ishah (may Allah be pleased with her) said: “The Messenger of Allah bought some food on credit from a Jew, and he gave him a shield of his as collateral (rahn)” (Al-Bukhari and Muslim). Narrated by Anas: “A young Jewish boy used to serve the Prophet and he became sick. So the Prophet went to visit him. He sat near his head and asked him to embrace Islam. The boy looked at his father, who was sitting there. The latter told him to obey the Prophet and the boy embraced Islam. The Prophet came out saying: “Praise be to Allah Who saved the boy from the Hell-fire” (Al-Bukhari) The prophet said Beware, if anyone wrongs a mu`ahid [i.e. a non-Muslim enjoying the protection of Muslims], or diminishes his right, or forces him to work beyond his capacity, or takes from him anything without his consent, I shall be his adversary on the Day of Judgment” (Abu Dawud). The Prophet (peace and blessings upon him) accepted gifts from non-Muslims. Al-Bukhari narrated that a Jewish woman brought him a sheep which was proved later to be poisoned after he ate some of it. The Prophet pardoned her. However, later on, when Bishr ibn Al-Bara’, who had also eaten from it, died, the Jewish woman was killed for him. Kindness to non to non-Muslim relatives Asma’ bint Abu Bakr As-Siddiq (May Allah be pleased with her) said: “My mother came to me while she was still a polytheist, so I asked the Messenger of Allah, ‘My mother, has come to visit me and she is hoping for (my favor). Shall I maintain good relations with her?’ He (peace and blessings be upon him) replied, ‘Yes, maintain good relations with your mother’” (Al- Bukhari and Muslim). DrChukki:nigga u lied,bible mentioned about those who were worshipping Baal and some other gods and he mentioned the pagan and the Jews(the people that followed Moses and his tanakh) On hatred Malachi 1:3 and I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness. What did Esau did to God that made him hate him? Luke 19:27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me. Bro why is that? Plus all the raping,pillaging and destruction in Bible And God forget God ordered his prophets to wage war against thise who are worshipping false gods DrChukki:Where did Qur'an said that? nigga bring the evidence Except a non Muslims that waged war against Muslims like the Jews of mecca and the pagans during the time of the prophet. DrChukki:people have being using religions to do evil for so long,so this is not new,european used the same to wipe the native in America for hundreds of years. DrChukki:U can't just say shi.t unless u bring the evidence from Sunnah or Al Quran 1 Like |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by adams123: 8:41pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
AS A CHRISTIAN, how do you worship GOD? by singing, dancing and clapping?? pls enlight me |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by caye(m): 8:44pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
Righteousness89: our brother righteousness has no knowledge of the fact that France is seemingly behind some of the terrorists attacks in Africa because of mineral resources. Ask about Zamfara, Cote d'voire, Bukina Faso and Haiti. Brother, religion must not blind you ...that is if you are African and not a pretending whitey |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by emmasege: 8:44pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
azmanaty2:Just imagine a world without Islam. How peaceful it would be. |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by caye(m): 8:50pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
twosquare: May God bless you. And may Karma continue to visit France. Imagine...stealing $500billion yearly from Africans? Ah! They will continue to suffer from these vermin-Arabs, amin Oh! Remember, they murdered Sankara and turned back the destiny of Burkina Faso for a long time 1 Like |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by adams123: 8:52pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
MATTHEW 15 VS 24 ....Jesus said he was only sent to Israelites and u guys are here making noise, are u guys israelites?? New King James Version But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” King James Bible But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Christian Standard Bible He replied, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Contemporary English Version Jesus said, "I was sent only to the people of Israel! They are like a flock of lost sheep." Good News Translation Then Jesus replied, "I have been sent only to the lost sheep of the people of Israel." Holman Christian Standard Bible He replied, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." International Standard Version But he replied, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the nation of Israel." |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by parkervero(m): 9:05pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
SilverNorGold:What is unchristian attitude? 1 Like |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by adams123: 9:05pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
ISLAM MEANS PEACE!!! ISLAM SAYS DRESS PROPERLY BUT u guys say no that mini skirt is better... RESULT IS RAPING. |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by parkervero(m): 9:09pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
adams123: Why do you pray in arabic and not in your mother's tongue? Why will you be considered infidel if you don't recite quran in arabic? |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by parkervero(m): 9:12pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
adams123:Hahaha! I know you don't know anything other than what you were told in arabic class. Imagine a muslim saying Islam means peace... Islam means submission. I will teach you Islam. Salam means peace 2 Likes |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by Agbegbaorogboye: 9:15pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
SilverNorGold:This right here proves you're not a Christian. Can you tell me which denomination you are and which doctrine in your denomination supports this claim? In case you don't know, it's agnosticism that makes this belief and they also believe Jesus never resurrected. These are not in any mainstream Christian beliefs so I suggest you own up to whatever you really are and quit being an imposter |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by Mrpojj(m): 9:16pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
SilverNorGold: I don't know why u pple lie alot This has everything to do with islam |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by Drsmartphilips: 9:17pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
Righteousness89:yinmu u will wait forever |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by Charity85(m): 9:21pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
SilverNorGold:God bless you for your wisdom 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by Nobody: 9:23pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
parkervero: 1. LOL, My brother, like I said, you quoted OUT OF CONTEXT, and I actually anticipated this reply. Let me give you the context.. You didn't even quote the most commonly misquoted one, Quran 9:5.. Which instructed Muslims to kill the pagans. I'll explain the context of all of these verses.. First, you must go to history to actually understand the Qur'an. You cannot just sit in a beer parlor and begin to gather misquotations you copied from anti-Islam blogs. You have to do better than that. I am not even a Muslim, but see how easy it was for me to disprove your allegations. The reason behind these verses is that the mushrikeen, who were pagans, and other leaders, like the monarch of Mecca all waged war against Mohammed at that time. The Prophet and his new converts were persecuted and decrees were made to stop Prophet Muhammad as the number of converts were intimidating. Not only that, there were countless of failed assassination attempts on the Prophet's life. They had to flee. But this too didn't help. The Arabs joined, thousands of Muslims were wiped out. This led to the Battle of the Trench.. Despite the ruthless massacre and near annihilation, some survived. There are so many others, but I'll be brief.. All these resulted in the verses of self defense and Jihad, which means "fighting for survival".. The Qur'an never preached that non-muslims be killed. In fact, Qur'an 5:32 said: "Whoever kills a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it is as though he has killed the whole of humanity. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he has saved the whole of humanity.”.. Here, it's absolutely clear the Qur'an is against what you are falsely accusing it of. It only teaches self defense and most of those verses were made in the battlefield. 2. Accusing me of apostasy? Lol, you are funny. That I am a Christian doesn't mean I should believe in petty lies just to spite the Muslims. That's not what Jesus taught us. Jesus never did such. And besides, why cry over Islam when there are loads of issues from the Bible the atheists and other religion folks raised on this Forum? Why not intelligently reply to them and win more souls for Christ instead of mastubating on Muslim issues and using lies to demonize the adherents? So first remove the Iroko tree from your own eyes so you can see clearly to remove the speck from your neighbor's eye.. Go and reply the embarrassing allegations against christianity in the religious section and let Islam be. Attacking Islam wouldn't win you converts. But following the teachings of Christ and intelligently answering questions raised will. 3. I have replied to the apostasy issue. I have also given you a brief history. I don't like repeating myself. Regarding Prophet Muhammad's Hijra to Yathrib(Medina), the monotheistic people of Yathrib fell in love with Muhammad's message and sent a delegation to him so he can serve as their chief arbitrator. This was due to the fighting, especially the battle of Bu’ath involving the Arab and the Jew. A central authority to settle dispute was needed. Mohammed was chosen. So he, Mohammed, started by creating a constitution, which was basically a federal state, and that's how the "people of the book", referring to the Jews and Christians, came to be. Again, persecution and the likes forced Mohammed to write more verses, instructing the Muslims to defend themselves. My brother, there are a lot you should know, before you begin leveling false accusations. May God bless us. |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by Agbegbaorogboye: 9:25pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
abdullahi45:Stop the self-deception. Show me where Ku Klux Klan said they're fighting for Jesus or that they were sent by God to avenge the death of Jesus Show me where IRA or Lord's Resistance Army or any other sect said they were commanded by Jesus Christ to kill the enemies of Christianity. A very strong theme of Islamic terrorism is killing in defense of and in the name of Allah or Mohamed. Just as paty was killed for blaspheming Mohamed. It's totally different from Ku Klux Klan who are a white supremacist group or Lord's Resistance Army who are freedom fighters or lRA who are fighting for an independent Irish Republic. None of them said they kill because Jesus asked them to. Don't be looking for your kind in Christianity. It simply doesn't exist. 2 Likes |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by Nobody: 9:26pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
Agbegbaorogboye: My brother, read my comments, I already stated it was agnostic, justifying that not everything you read should be believed. And that the fact that some historic critics made the allegations doesn't mean it's true. Also, I won't lie about my faith. That's nonsensical as there's no reason to lie. May God bless us. |
| Re: Nice, France Knife Church Attack: Three Dead, Several Hurt by Nobody: 9:28pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
mbaise1000: My brother, read my comments. |
Europe need to wake up. All these freedom nonsense will destroy Europe.
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