jmoore:



Your examples of success in Nigeria is mediocrity.

Ordinary kidnappers, that's what you are comparing to terrorists that are ready to bomb themselves.

Who is a terrorist? The US itself confirmed that they are not affiliated with terror groups, they are hungry kidnappers. Most US rescue missions fail even against ordinary kidnappers. Follow foreign politics to get true picture of events.

ivolt:
Self-hating niggers above. Real life is not movies where America forces always wins and Jack Bauer is a fictional character.

Here are some US failed rescue missions back to back:
1980
https://www.britannica.com/event/Operation-Eagle-Claw

2016
https://www.voanews.com/east-asia/us-forces-conduct-unsuccessful-mission-rescue-hostages-afghanistan

Down memory lane of failed US rescues.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2014/12/6/a-brief-history-of-failed-us-rescue-bids


Navy seal fighting some hungry kidnappers is nothing to celebrate.


Meanwhile, here are some successful rescue missions by Nigerian forces:
https://allafrica.com/stories/202007140593.html

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/north-central/376777-police-rescue-four-kidnapped-victims-in-abuja.html

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/10/breaking-police-rescue-kidnapped-port-harcourt-lawyer/

There are so many more but you get my point. Stop hating your own.

it's not hate. It is the bitter truth. The fact that Nigerian soldiers are still busy flogging and killing citizens all over the country shows how unprofessional they are,abi its hate too. Have u even watched a Bokoharam fighting video before? Just utter shouting and confusion. No coordination. You will be wondering whether it's terrorist fighting terrorist.

JohnBullMySon:
it's not hate. It is the bitter truth.

It is hate. American cops still kill unarmed blacks disproportionately. But you won't find majority of Americans wishing evil on their government and country the same way Nigerians fdo.

The fact that Nigerian soldiers are still busy flogging and killing citizens all over the country shows how unprofessional they are,abi its hate too.

How is this related to failed rescue? By bringing up another issue, you showed that it is about hate and you would find any thing to feel inferior to others. American soldiers commits war crimes even killing unarmed civilians wherever they are deployed.

Have u even watched a Bokoharam fighting video before? Just utter shouting and confusion. No coordination. You will be wondering whether it's terrorist fighting terrorist.

You are basing your experience on movies. Real war is nothing like the movie. There are defense strategies of course but it never works as planned. Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

ivolt:

It is hate. American cops still kill unarmed blacks disproportionately. But you won't find majority of Americans wishing evil on their government and country the same way Nigerians fdo.



How is this related to failed rescue? By bringing up another issue, you showed that it is about hate and you would find any thing to feel inferior to others. American soldiers commits war crimes even killing unarmed civilians wherever they are deployed.


You are basing your experience on movies. Real war is nothing like the movie. There are defense strategies of course but it never works as planned. Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

1. You compare when police shoot a single unarmed black man in three months to our police and army killing people in hundreds. Oga talk true na, I know sey u get brain

2. Flogging people on the street and shooting people is related yes, it shows they are unprofessional and lack the basic ense of knowing the right thing to do. It also shows they don't care about their citizens, show me where American soldiers killed their own citizens in their country, keep on defending Nigeria its like you like it like this. Infact even in the middle East, show me where us soliders are flogging somebody.

3. Go and watch us army engaging insurgents in Afghanistan and browse Nigeria army fighting Bokoharam on YouTube, if you no cry for our army watching the video, then you don't love our army

You no like army pass me oh, but guy Nigeria military needs God intervention.

JohnBullMySon:

1. You compare when police shoot a single unarmed black man in three months to our police and army killing people in hundreds. Oga talk true na, I know sey u get brain

2. Flogging people on the street and shooting people is related yes, it shows they are unprofessional and lack the basic ense of knowing the right thing to do. It also shows they don't care about their citizens, show me where American soldiers killed their own citizens in their country, keep on defending Nigeria its like you like it like this. Infact even in the middle East, show me where us soliders are flogging somebody.

3. Go and watch us army engaging insurgents in Afghanistan and browse Nigeria army fighting Bokoharam on YouTube, if you no cry for our army watching the video, then you don't love our army

You no like army pass me oh, but guy Nigeria military needs God intervention.

Of course we don't realistically expect a 4th world shithole country like Nigeria to have the same military capabilities as the US. That's not even the point.

It would have been more bearable if our military's problem has to do with capacity and competence alone. But unfortunately it is far worse than that.

The problem involves a shameful cocktail of indiscipline, unprofessionalism and cowardice. That's why the fools would delight in brutalising unarmed civilians alone. Prancing around like deranged dogs looking for unarmed civilians to roll in the mud, issue frog jumps to, or flog. It is just shameful and ridiculous to bully people who have no means of squaring up to you.

But when they encounter armed civilians (eg Boko Haram), you would see the cowardly fools giving a million excuses about how they are poorly equipped and poorly motivated. It is shameful.

Nigerian cannot survive an external invasion with this people.

ivolt:
Self-hating niggers above. Real life is not movies where America forces always wins and Jack Bauer is a fictional character.

Here are some US failed rescue missions back to back:
1980
https://www.britannica.com/event/Operation-Eagle-Claw

2016
https://www.voanews.com/east-asia/us-forces-conduct-unsuccessful-mission-rescue-hostages-afghanistan

Down memory lane of failed US rescues.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2014/12/6/a-brief-history-of-failed-us-rescue-bids


Navy seal fighting some hungry kidnappers is nothing to celebrate.


Meanwhile, here are some successful rescue missions by Nigerian forces:
https://allafrica.com/stories/202007140593.html

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/north-central/376777-police-rescue-four-kidnapped-victims-in-abuja.html

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/10/breaking-police-rescue-kidnapped-port-harcourt-lawyer/

There are so many more but you get my point. Stop hating your own.

Shut it.

JohnBullMySon:
it's not hate. It is the bitter truth. The fact that Nigerian soldiers are still busy flogging and killing citizens all over the country shows how unprofessional they are,abi its hate too. Have u even watched a Bokoharam fighting video before? Just utter shouting and confusion. No coordination. You will be wondering whether it's terrorist fighting terrorist.

OK2NVME:
This thread is inspired by the trending topic of a kidnapped US citizen who was rescued without hitch by US special forces.


Sometime in 2012, 2 expats working on a road construction in Sokoto were kidnapped by terrorists cells linked to Al Qaeda.

The nationalities of the two expats were British and Italian.

For months they languished in captivity until intelligence report not from Nigerian security operatives ) narrowed their location to a particular building in a dusty slum in Sokoto.

The UK govt without delay arranged for an SBS team to fly down to Nigeria to secure their rescue but the Nigerian Army refused the special forces carry out or partake in the mission.

The SBS guys were at the Akanu Ibiam Intl airport everyday waiting for a diplomatic breakthrough that will allow them be part of the main mission but to no avail as the Army insisted it could secure the release of the hostages without their help. The Army and other security chiefs to then Goodluck Jonathan stated that it will amount to shame on them and a violation of Nigeria's soverignty to have foriegn troops operate within Nigeria. Goodluck turned down the UK and Italian govts' request to partake in the mission. The UK backdown knowing that as the days passed the terrorists maybe tipped off that their location had been compromised and the hostages moved.

D-Day approached and the "gallant " Nigerian Army contingent of over a hundred soldeirs , several APCs and two helicopters hovering noisely descended on the Sokoto slum and made way to the target location.

Before they reached the building the entire town had already known what was going on talk less of the terrorists who by that time had already killed the two hostages. But for some reasons the terrorists dug in and waited for the Nigerian "rescue mission" which had already lost it's mission purpose long before it got to the hostages.

What ensured can only describe the kind of idiots and incompetency that pervades the security forces as the advancing Nigerian troops plus helicopters rained bullets indiscriminately at the building not minding the safety of the hostages. A prolonged fire fight then ensued that lasted for well over 7hrs.

The Nigerian troops then decided to smoke the terrorists out by throwing burning car tyres into the building.

The firefight onnly ended when the terrorists ran out of ammo and shot themselves .

By the time everything was over, the building was riddled with bullets from all direction, rpg hits and a smouldering car tyre and inside the building the dead bodies of the two hostages and their two terrorist minders.

This is why the US did not bother to inform the Nigerian govt and also why Idris Derby just strolled into Nigeria and avenged the killings of his soldiers by BH wtthout also notifying the Nigerian govt.

They know our army is as useless as they come.

Even read of the time the French organised a coalition to rid Mali of Toureg rebels seeking to carve out their own nation state and that the Nigerian soldeirs were rejected to accompany them on missions and were left in the rear to load and offload supplies.

Shame !

Shame on Naija

CodeTemplar:
Shut it.

Why?? he has a point.

You people are just out of touch with reality.

Read, research and know better. Stop the hate.


God bless Nigeria

The event is on Wikipedia.

What the op wrote isn't entirely true

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokoto_hostage_rescue_attempt

No helicopter was used for the operation

The assault was brief, a Nigerian Army APC rammed the gates of the target compound, the SBS then stormed the building and killed two militants whilst the Nigerian army killed a further 6 militants. The bodies of McManus and Lamolinara were found, an autopsy revealed that they had been hastily executed at close range.

LWKMD

OK2NVME:
This thread is inspired by the trending topic of a kidnapped US citizen who was rescued without hitch by US special forces.


Sometime in 2012, 2 expats working on a road construction in Sokoto were kidnapped by terrorists cells linked to Al Qaeda.

The nationalities of the two expats were British and Italian.

For months they languished in captivity until intelligence report not from Nigerian security operatives ) narrowed their location to a particular building in a dusty slum in Sokoto.

The UK govt without delay arranged for an SBS team to fly down to Nigeria to secure their rescue but the Nigerian Army refused the special forces carry out or partake in the mission.

The SBS guys were at the Akanu Ibiam Intl airport everyday waiting for a diplomatic breakthrough that will allow them be part of the main mission but to no avail as the Army insisted it could secure the release of the hostages without their help. The Army and other security chiefs to then Goodluck Jonathan stated that it will amount to shame on them and a violation of Nigeria's soverignty to have foriegn troops operate within Nigeria. Goodluck turned down the UK and Italian govts' request to partake in the mission. The UK backdown knowing that as the days passed the terrorists maybe tipped off that their location had been compromised and the hostages moved.

D-Day approached and the "gallant " Nigerian Army contingent of over a hundred soldeirs , several APCs and two helicopters hovering noisely descended on the Sokoto slum and made way to the target location.

Before they reached the building the entire town had already known what was going on talk less of the terrorists who by that time had already killed the two hostages. But for some reasons the terrorists dug in and waited for the Nigerian "rescue mission" which had already lost it's mission purpose long before it got to the hostages.

What ensured can only describe the kind of idiots and incompetency that pervades the security forces as the advancing Nigerian troops plus helicopters rained bullets indiscriminately at the building not minding the safety of the hostages. A prolonged fire fight then ensued that lasted for well over 7hrs.

The Nigerian troops then decided to smoke the terrorists out by throwing burning car tyres into the building.

The firefight onnly ended when the terrorists ran out of ammo and shot themselves .

By the time everything was over, the building was riddled with bullets from all direction, rpg hits and a smouldering car tyre and inside the building the dead bodies of the two hostages and their two terrorist minders.

This is why the US did not bother to inform the Nigerian govt and also why Idris Derby just strolled into Nigeria and avenged the killings of his soldiers by BH wtthout also notifying the Nigerian govt.

They know our army is as useless as they come.

Even read of the time the French organised a coalition to rid Mali of Toureg rebels seeking to carve out their own nation state and that the Nigerian soldeirs were rejected to accompany them on missions and were left in the rear to load and offload supplies.

Shame !

point of correction, US can't enter Nigeria for any mission without Nigeria's knowledge. Pls, get it right. You can't enter someone's nation by air without their consent. Is too dangerous and completely against UN organisation charter. The bilateral relationships between US and Nigeria is excellent and they can easily be given go ahead due to their ability to carry more accurate operation.

sarahkom:
US are simply the best and greatest

I agree but use one of the best. You are yet to encounter the UK SBS.

By the time everything was over, the building was riddled with bullets from all direction, rpg hits and a smouldering car tyre and inside the building the dead bodies of the two hostages and their two terrorist minders.

Most incompetent Army worldwide, very shameful. They will later report to Base and say "hoodlums hijacked the operation." Very dumb NA.

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Your examples of success in Nigeria is mediocrity.

Ordinary kidnappers, that's what you are comparing to terrorists that are ready to bomb themselves quote]



Your hate is second to none, They ain’t all that good but the fact that there are still in the north east risking their lives for me and you should be applaud. There is nothing to gain when you hate your country so much.
I’ve been cut in a cross fire and members of the Nigerian army came in and handle the entirely situation.

http://saharareporters.com/2019/12/28/breaking-police-army-prevent-armed-robbers-escaping-abuja-bank

The Nigerian army are only trained on how to intimidate and terrorise citizens by flogging them throwing them in muds or drainage and killing them...but when real work show...they get confused just like their leader...

OK2NVME:
This thread is inspired by the trending topic of a kidnapped US citizen who was rescued without hitch by US special forces.



Shame !

And why didn't they use the Nigerian special forces? they're very well trained for this type of mission.

ivolt:
Self-hating niggers above. Real life is not movies where America forces always wins and Jack Bauer is a fictional character.

Here are some US failed rescue missions back to back:
1980
https://www.britannica.com/event/Operation-Eagle-Claw

2016
https://www.voanews.com/east-asia/us-forces-conduct-unsuccessful-mission-rescue-hostages-afghanistan

Down memory lane of failed US rescues.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2014/12/6/a-brief-history-of-failed-us-rescue-bids


Navy seal fighting some hungry kidnappers is nothing to celebrate.


Meanwhile, here are some successful rescue missions by Nigerian forces:
https://allafrica.com/stories/202007140593.html

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/north-central/376777-police-rescue-four-kidnapped-victims-in-abuja.html

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/10/breaking-police-rescue-kidnapped-port-harcourt-lawyer/

There are so many more but you get my point. Stop hating your own.

Thanks for enlightening them.

Nigeria as a country is a mess but I don't understand why a lot of Nigerians foolishly denigrate their own.

[s]

ivolt:
Self-hating niggers above. Real life is not movies where America forces always wins and Jack Bauer is a fictional character.

Here are some US failed rescue missions back to back:
1980
https://www.britannica.com/event/Operation-Eagle-Claw

2016
https://www.voanews.com/east-asia/us-forces-conduct-unsuccessful-mission-rescue-hostages-afghanistan

Down memory lane of failed US rescues.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2014/12/6/a-brief-history-of-failed-us-rescue-bids


Navy seal fighting some hungry kidnappers is nothing to celebrate.


Meanwhile, here are some successful rescue missions by Nigerian forces:
https://allafrica.com/stories/202007140593.html

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/north-central/376777-police-rescue-four-kidnapped-victims-in-abuja.html

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/10/breaking-police-rescue-kidnapped-port-harcourt-lawyer/

There are so many more but you get my point. Stop hating your own.

[/s]


Which one has your useless army succeeded in?

Mention just one or shut up .

We are telling you that the army needs to be overhauled you are chanting patriotism.

Patriotism is not blind loyalty.

The army is in a sorry state and if you are patriotic as you claim you will want to see it improve.

This is why I like history

Mariomadiba:

Your hate is second to none, They ain’t all that good
but the fact that there are still in the north east risking
their lives for me and you should be applaud. There is
nothing to gain when you hate your country so much.
I’ve been cut in a cross fire and members of the
Nigerian army came in and handle the entirely
situation.
http://saharareporters.com/2019/12/28/breaking-
police-army-prevent-armed-robbers-escaping-abuja-
bank

Stop throwing the word 'hate' all over if one has a contrary opinion.


Mediocrity is my word which is where Nigerian army falls under. Any rating above mediocrity is living in denial.

Your source is a bank robbery. You can't even link rescue from bokoharam terrorists.

tommy589:


Ordinary map reading they don't know

Lmaoooooooooo....

Don't presume

ivolt:
Self-hating niggers above. Real life is not movies where America forces always wins and Jack Bauer is a fictional character.

Here are some US failed rescue missions back to back:
1980
https://www.britannica.com/event/Operation-Eagle-Claw

2016
https://www.voanews.com/east-asia/us-forces-conduct-unsuccessful-mission-rescue-hostages-afghanistan

Down memory lane of failed US rescues.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2014/12/6/a-brief-history-of-failed-us-rescue-bids


Navy seal fighting some hungry kidnappers is nothing to celebrate.


Meanwhile, here are some successful rescue missions by Nigerian forces:
https://allafrica.com/stories/202007140593.html

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/north-central/376777-police-rescue-four-kidnapped-victims-in-abuja.html

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/10/breaking-police-rescue-kidnapped-port-harcourt-lawyer/

There are so many more but you get my point. Stop hating your own.

You be MUMU

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