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Nigerians simply have no interest in their own history, it goes against their entrepreneurial nature.

It takes an article written by a British journalist in a UK newspaper, featuring academics from Europe for us to be able to read an up to date story about it.

I love Benin bronzes.

I would rather live in a 7,000 population country of homogeneous people, best brains, godliness, contentment, justice and fair equity for all than be lost amongst 200 million citizens whose brains are all about WAZOBIA satanic system of government.

#Team Scandinavia. As big and wealthy as Nigeria is, it can't match any of these country in human and capital development. What a waste of nation.

Benin City if declared a country today, has all it takes to be side by side with Norway within 10 years.

I so need good replicas of Benin short swords to hang on my wall.

Is that offensive? Do the swords have a certain cultural/religious significance that would make getting replicas as art offensive?

Seerade029:
Guy, learn how to separate them.
You wrote Edo instead of Benin.

There are many tribes in Edo state I'm only singling out benin people.

And I'm telling you that, I would choose ibiblo people over Benin people anytime.

You are the ignorant one here.

Benin empire is the same as Edo. Both can be use interchangeably. Before edo state, it used to be bendel where delta state was calved out. Almost every tribe in the present day Edo, Delta were all part of Benin empire. The empire expanded to south western states like, Lagos, Osun, Ondo and Ekiti.

According to my aged mother, her grandfather said whoever killed a leopard or tiger is required to take the foreskin to the Oba of Benin and the person is honoured by a special title. You dare not disobey the, the consequences is better imagine. However, the journey from etsako was not an easy one. it could take months to reach Benin. Besides, the dead must be taken to Benin capital for burial. This scenario was not peculiar to the Etsako/Afemai tribe alone, but other tribes as well, to far away Lagos because they were under Benin(edo) rule.

A respected historian from one of the south west States(Can't remember his name now. Will search for it and update this post) wrote an article and lay everything bare. it is an interesting one. He describes in details with factual evidence, how Lagos and other south west states came to be under the Benin empire and how the dead were taken to Benin for burial. Infact, some names that are common in Yoruba land are actually Benin origin. Names like, Idioro, Eko '(eko 'onibaje), idumota etc. These are not just mere fallacy but facts. you can do your own research with open mind and without bitterness.

It is unfortunate that we don't value our historical heritage but rather carry religion on top our head, yet the country remains backward and poverty capital of the world.

delpee:
Very interesting! Black civilisation probably should have been left to develop at its pace. Benin treasures of art speak volumes about the intelligence and beautiful culture of the Binis.

I also read about a Queen of Ile Ife who constructed paved roads with potsherds centuries ago.

Apart from Western education and Christianity, much of the intervention of the Whites was for their personal and national interest.

There are parts of Ile-Ife where you can still see the old street pavements.

BigSarah:
The whites came to take BLOOD, cause sweat, and give TEARS...
The blacks allowed themselves to be swayed

blacks were overpowered not swayed

Realtalk20:
Well no apologies here

Bye

you need help

The Europeans are back in Africa for a second wave of destruction.

Ongoing social engineering via the internet, be careful what you watch, read and who you listen to.

The think tanks, academia, big tech,
Hollywood, celebrities are all in on it.


No dey copy oyinbos, it never goes well.

Realtalk20:
Well no apologies here

Bye

Yoruba nation is what your ancestor will always begged to have


you Igbo adopting Edo to embrace your foolishness won't cease to amuse me


real Edo people will never say this to Yoruba because you Igbo are the most bitter people on earth

HITsquad:
This is no news... Benin empire,The nubian Kush empire... Modern day Sudan,Malian empire... (I don't even wanna add our famous light skin egyptian neighbors) was an evidence that Africa was not always at the back stage! We were better than our counterparts in every angle!

Something went wrong somewhere man! And it's sad

Which light skinned Egyptian neighbours?

My friend, Ancient Egypt was a black civilization, just like the Benin we are discussing. Stop watching Hollywood garbage.

jneutron4000:
[/s][s]There was nothing like Igodomigodo or Idu empire, it was Oranmiyan that named it Ile Ibinu corrupted to Benin and his son Eweka started the Oba dynasty that built the Benin empire that you are now proud of.

please you guys have your history;focus on yours and leave us alone.

engrchykae:
The great Edo seemed to me to be an offshoot of the ancient egyptian civilization.
In her monarchical structure and spiritual background.
The real monkeys are Europeans who copied everything they have from Africa and yet fail to acknowledge Africa.
Their pattern is simple DISCOVER AND DESTROY

There is definitely a Benin connection to Ancient Egypt. The houses of the Benin nobility had large pyramid-shaped spires on their roofs, plus there are numerous other cultural and linguistic similarities.

But it's other way round now
Not only Benin by the way.. whole of Nigeria..

Zeromoney:
This story breaks my heart. So the English man came; killed our ancestors, burnt our glorious Benin city to the ground and carted away artefacts and sculptures that identify us. Now if we want to know more about the ancient Benin kingdom all we have to do is travel to the UK and visit their museums.
Is Nigeria not a failed country? A country that can't preserve its identity or teach her citizens their history shouldn't exist.

My brother I too am tired of this british fraud called Nigeria. It's a country that banned history from schools and shoots it's citizens just because they are not mumuslims. God forbids abeg.

Realtalk20:
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Very filthy set of judas desendants .. .
Let me even provoke you more

I hate Yorubas with a passion , alot of us do , infact I'm south south from cross river to Edo you guys are seen as a joke .. a very unfunny, crude joke ..idiot tugha rie eren

I want my words to burn and pain you to your core.

Disgusting thing , you think it's your stinking tribe that tells me who to love or whom to hate

Useless pig... So Edo indigenes are now the slaves of Yoruba and we must wait on you to tell us who to love or hate bah?

Tugha gioan there

Rubbish

you're from Southeast, there is one thing of stupidity that indicate that in your show of shame


this thread is talking about the beautiful Benin empire and you claimed to be a true son of Edo have to derailed it with this unproductive and brainless unnecessary argument


I repeat you Igbo will always want to be like Yoruba forever and till eternity. you failed rising sun with high temperature of madness


continue dancing to your show of shame

Realtalk20:
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Very filthy set of judas desendants .. .
Let me even provoke you more

I hate Yorubas with a passion , alot of us do , infact I'm south south from cross river to Edo you guys are seen as a joke .. a very unfunny, crude joke ..idiot tugha rie eren

I want my words to burn and pain you to your core.

Disgusting thing , you think it's your stinking tribe that tells me who to love or whom to hate

Useless pig... So Edo indigenes are now the slaves of Yoruba and we must wait on you to tell us who to love or hate bah?

Tugha gioan there

Rubbish

Why are you ranting like rabid dog, Benin and the whole Edo are inconsequential to Yorubas. so don't develop BP for mere nairaland banter.

RemoveKebab:
Civilization started in Africa

The only reason Europeans was able to conquer Africa and rest of the world was their early knowledge to gunpowder and firearms that came from China.

If not Africans would have been the ones colonizing Europe and the rest of the world.

Bro chill, in 1696 Anthony Van Leeuwenhoek was already developing microscope

Babayinka11:
Why are you ranting like rabid dog, Benin and the whole Edo are inconsequential to Yorubas. so don't develop BP for mere nairaland banter.

Even you dey enter him trap? don't mind him o. he wants to start e-fight between Yoruba and Edo people but he don fail. Don't entertain it. Average Niger delta man is friendly and accommodating to all. ignore him and his like please.

lastchild:
i disagree with this claim

if Africa has what it takes to colonize rest of the world like you said, why are they not leading in any inventory in this modern day

or did white man also take away their sense to invent

That is what the colonial masters made you to believe. And they did a great job wiping out Africas history to subdue them for good.

As they say "history is written by the victors"

Isn't the Egyptians that built megalithic structures that still baffled modern architecture till today?

What technology did they use?

Have you heard of timbuktu manuscripts that depict advanced trade tactics that still baffle economist today.

Isn't Mesa musa of mali empire the richest person to have ever lived on earth?

Have you heard of Carthaginian empire that almost conquered rome, wasn't this empire in Africa?

If you want to subdue a conquered territory, you will make them believe that they know nothing and your civilization is the best.

Like I said what really helped European was their geography which enabled them to trade and make exchange of technology with Asia

They never single handedly developed themselves.

Africa didn't have this luxury because of northern desert which froze them in time.

MhisTahrah:
It's sad we Africans don't know our history. If only Africa can return to its roots.

Honestly, there are things I've read in African history that just fly in the face of everything we think we know about our past. I've read accounts about an 11th century Arab merchant in the Ghana empire who wrote that he was paid BY CHEQUE by his African business partner in a transaction. Of course to write a cheque, there must be...BANKS to issue and clear them.

Sunstorm95:
Nigeria won't develop in 100 years , not with the caliber of minds I've observed so far. I totally get the whole thing now ,so sad .

Don't take Nairaland e-tribalists serious..

Etinosa12345:
Someone like me who has never entered Ondo won't know that there is Ondo town and Ondo state

Are u confused...
If akure was never under the Benin Empire, then why does the length of time stayed under the Empire matter?



U are talking trash... Akure was under the Empire.. thank God it was documented b4 revisionist like u come and change history

Bro, please, which book is this from? Or which website did you get it from?

xpool:
What rich history?
History written and told by others?
History of being slaves for centuries?

If na history, abeg forget am.
We fit talk of future

Personalization, Manipulation and Outright Lies na him make me bone anything history...

RemoveKebab:
That is what the colonial masters made you to believe. And they did a great job wiping out Africas history to subdue them for good.

As they say "history is written by the victors"

Well said.

This is what we have been saying. Stop promoting us from colonial or slave trade times. All over we had dynasties. The people that don’t have dynasty are the ones constantly wailing online about everything and doing street campaign for Trump.

A large Yoruba known for skull mining and diabolical acts right.Tell me one tribe that is more sophisticated than Yoruba in skull mining and voodoos.

A Yoruba friend specially told me that when he is in Benin and someone threatens him, he just knows the person is angry or want to fight him physically but if someone threatens him at home(Yoruba land) just know it’s 95% diabolical.He doesn’t even make trouble at home like he does in Benin.

Uchasa:
Only God knows why Edo people suddenly developed hatred for Yorubas. I know hundreds of Edolites who disassociate themselves from Yorubas and insult Yorubas on a daily basis as if they are better. A small tribe that is known for crime and prostitution has the audacity to insult Yorubas. You guys must be out of your senses, idiots!.
As for Lagos,though am not Yoruba, Lagos is Yoruba land and no stupid Benin Wizard can claim the city!

Seerade029:
I'm not an indegine of Akure ..
Whatever rocks you guys boat.

Backwards, witchcrafts people.
5lgs people

First class Skull miners, children of slaves.

Seerade029:
I'm not an indegine of Akure ..
Whatever rocks you guys boat.

Backwards, witchcrafts people.
5lgs people

First class Skull miners.

Youngjohnosas:
You feel pained knowing that an inconsequential 5 local government empire took your fore fathers as slaves .

It is really good if you guys want to go down this part

It was rather the opposite, the whole Benin were actually Yoruba's slaves


Your Oba remain a Yoruba man till date

RemoveKebab:
That is what the colonial masters made you to believe. And they did a great job wiping out Africas history to subdue them for good.

As they say "history is written by the victors"

Isn't the Egyptians that built megalithic structures that still baffled modern architecture till today?

What technology did they use?

Have you heard of timbuktu manuscripts that depict advanced trade tactics that still baffle economist today.

Isn't Mesa musa of mali empire the richest person to have ever lived on earth?

Have you heard of Carthaginian empire that almost conquered rome, wasn't this empire in Africa?

If you want to subdue a conquered territory, you will make them believe that they know nothing and your civilization is the best.

Like I said what really helped European was their geography which enabled them to trade and make exchange of technology with Asia

They never single handedly developed themselves.

Africa didn't have this luxury because of northern desert which froze them in time.

my question remains, if we have all these potentials, what happened to them?
because I know that potentials which is the inner ability of a man cannot be taken away

why can't we lead in inventory, why are we waiting for the westerners to discover before we use

why is the things you mentioned only happened in the past and not now