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Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by chrisooblog: 12:32pm On Nov 06, 2020
good point you make about the American electoral college system. in Nigeria the north won't necessarily have an advantage like that. Buhari despite his northern base was never able to win national elections until he combined with the dominant SW party and some other strong middle belt, SS, SE politicians. for all of nigeria's poor electoral system you can never win presidential elections without some sort of national consensus

iamJ:
electoral college gives small states value, people kept shifting to east and west coast abandoning the center, I'm sure they suspected that it would happen in the future, helps create small equality, democracy is not perfect, see how the north has upper hand in nigeria
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by AmazonTopaz(f): 12:32pm On Nov 06, 2020
Rebelutionary:
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cool cool
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by timay(m): 12:44pm On Nov 06, 2020
tamdun:
Pablo Escobars son said that if his father would’ve never gotten into politics, he’d still be alive and kept most of his empire. All your skeletons come out when you go in public office. Seems to be true for trump too, becoming President will most likely result ending up in prison for him and his kids
Oga calm down. None of Trump or his children are going to prison. He'll just get ridiculed as per he get mouth Cho Cho Cho. Lol
Forget the party differences, all those rich guys get themselves covered.
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by timay(m): 12:45pm On Nov 06, 2020
iamJ:
he wouldn't they just wanted to fool out of office, his businesses will suffer, its mostly favors that kept them afloat
If his business suffers, it won't be because of politics though. Trump is known to be an habitual declarer of bankruptcy long before he went into politics and he usually bounce back.
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by timay(m): 12:49pm On Nov 06, 2020
AmazonTopaz:
Let the future generation decide that with years to come the republican party will crack because conservative values are not advanced at all and the world keeps evolving.
He's right though . No party will dominate. Republican will just repackage and restrategize.

Republican and Democratic party in the US are strong institutions and none of them will die out very soon and none will dominate another. They are not like APC and PDP with no ideals and directions. If PDP was a proper party, they would have taken advantage of the present APC f*k ups by now with proper direction towards 2023. The Democrats saw an opportunity in COvid19 and they took it and milked the sh*t out of it to kick out their opposition.

Do you know that the democrats used to be the racist party who were pro slavery? Along the line, they just restrategized and today, they've have swapped places with the republican as per ideals.

How the Democrats made the swap, I'll never know.
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by iamJ(m): 12:51pm On Nov 06, 2020
timay:
He's right though . No party will dominate. Republican will just repackage and restrategize.

Do you know that the democrats used to be the racist party who were pro slavery? Along the line, they just restrategized and today, they've have swapped places with the republican as per ideals.

How the Democrats made the swap, I'll never know.
people are usually shocked when they realize that, I know the story of how the swap happened but its too long
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by AmazonTopaz(f): 12:54pm On Nov 06, 2020
timay:
He's right though . No party will dominate. Republican will just repackage and restrategize.

Do you know that the democrats used to be the racist party who were pro slavery? Along the line, they just restrategized and today, they've have swapped places with the republican as per ideals.

How the Democrats made the swap, I'll never know.
I get his point but I don't see this current republican party restrategising it will actually be the democrats.The republican party is now far right I am sure you saw that they elected Qanon idiots to the house of congress they will become more racist and far right if care is not taken and this will cause a split or crack like what happened in the democratic party with the dixiecrats.

I know that story not too well though it was because of Franklin Rooselvelt that was why the democrats became less racist after the dixiecrats broke out the 1960's the party reformed and became friendly to civil right movements that was when the blacks embraced the party because the party gave them a place.
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by timay(m): 12:56pm On Nov 06, 2020
AmazonTopaz:
I get his point but I don't see this current republican party restrategising it will actually be the democrats.The republican party is now far right I am sure you saw that they elected Qanon idiots to the house of congress they will become more racist and far right if care is not taken and this will cause a split or crack like what happened in the democratic party with the dixiecrats.

I know that story not too well though it was because of Franklin Rooselvelt that was why the democrats became less racist after the dixiecrats broke out the 1960's the party reformed and became friendly to civil right movements that was when the blacks embraced the party because the party gave them a place.
That's true sha.
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by Afamed: 1:06pm On Nov 06, 2020
Pennsylvania will also flip in the next few hours.
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by Kyase(m): 1:11pm On Nov 06, 2020
Afamed:
Pennsylvania will also flip in the next few hours.
Waiting for that hour cheesy
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by iamJ(m): 1:21pm On Nov 06, 2020
Iranians are celebrating on Twitter cheesy
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by Kyase(m): 1:34pm On Nov 06, 2020
iamJ:
Iranians are celebrating on Twitter cheesy
Hahahahahaha adding salt to injury.
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by CookingPot(f): 1:50pm On Nov 06, 2020
ebenezer202l:
because it's a Nigerian forum simply doesn't mean everyone posting here resides in Nigeria.
I'm a Librarian at Massachusetts, don't be so myopic
ode ni e . Weyre dey disguise.
Omo Liberia
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by ebenezer202l(f): 1:53pm On Nov 06, 2020
CookingPot:
ode ni e . Weyre dey disguise. Omo Liberia
Librarian not Liberia. The two are totally different. I don't know why illiterates are on the rise on this forum.
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by Okoroawusa: 1:54pm On Nov 06, 2020
iamJ:
This one is dark cheesy
Mad o!
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by Rebelutionary: 1:57pm On Nov 06, 2020
Afamed:
Pennsylvania will also flip in the next few hours.
grin grin grin shocked shocked shocked
una wan kee this man finish abi? Trump wont b able to wrap his head round how the man he called "sleepy" gave him the beating of his life!
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by Dansuqi: 2:00pm On Nov 06, 2020
lymelyte:
if you observe and study closely, you will see that the white population is on a gradual decline.
Its not.the Latinos are actually replacing them.blacks will never dominate america
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by lymelyte(m): 2:03pm On Nov 06, 2020
Dansuqi:
Its not.the Latinos are actually replacing them.blacks will never dominate america
says who? undecided
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by lymelyte(m): 2:08pm On Nov 06, 2020
timay:
He's right though . No party will dominate. Republican will just repackage and restrategize.

Republican and Democratic party in the US are strong institutions and none of them will die out very soon and none will dominate another. They are not like APC and PDP with no ideals and directions. If PDP was a proper party, they would have taken advantage of the present APC f*k ups by now with proper direction towards 2023. The Democrats saw an opportunity in COvid19 and they took it and milked the sh*t out of it to kick out their opposition.

Do you know that the democrats used to be the racist party who were pro slavery? Along the line, they just restrategized and today, they've have swapped places with the republican as per ideals.

How the Democrats made the swap, I'll never know.
that's why they are democrats and the oldest party in the world.. GOP even broke out of democratic party grin
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by Afamed: 2:18pm On Nov 06, 2020
Rebelutionary:
grin grin grin shocked shocked shocked
una wan kee this man finish abi? Trump wont b able to wrap his head round how the man he called "sleepy" gave him the beating of his life!
But that's the bitter truth. Pennsylvania will flip to Biden before the end of today.
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by Afamed: 2:20pm On Nov 06, 2020
lymelyte:
that's why they are democrats and the oldest party in the world.. GOP even broke out of democratic party grin
Trump himself was on 2 occasions a democratic before he dashed him to GOP/Republican
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by Nobody: 2:39pm On Nov 06, 2020
timay:
He's right though . No party will dominate. Republican will just repackage and restrategize.

Republican and Democratic party in the US are strong institutions and none of them will die out very soon and none will dominate another. They are not like APC and PDP with no ideals and directions. If PDP was a proper party, they would have taken advantage of the present APC f*k ups by now with proper direction towards 2023. The Democrats saw an opportunity in COvid19 and they took it and milked the sh*t out of it to kick out their opposition.

Do you know that the democrats used to be the racist party who were pro slavery? Along the line, they just restrategized and today, they've have swapped places with the republican as per ideals.

How the Democrats made the swap, I'll never know.
It is a very long and interesting story.....

Basically, the Southern democrats left their party in the 1960's in opposition to the desergration policies of the then President Johnson ....and found a home in the Republican party which while also pro-desegregration also believed more in 'states rights and small government'(The Southerners had to support desegregration as a result...but that's another story)

At the same time, blacks and other minorities had been heading to the democrat party gradually since the 1930's.(favourable polices). The shift accelerated in the 1960's. They jined the liberal Northerners and others over there.

This is a very very abbreviated answer to your question.
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by Nobody: 2:43pm On Nov 06, 2020
lymelyte:
that's why they are democrats and the oldest party in the world.. GOP even broke out of democratic party grin
The UK conservatives are actually older than the democrats.

The Republicans indirectly came from what used to be the Whig party, the Free-soil paty and others, who were united in opposing slavery especially in the new territories the US was acquirring at the time.(The WHIGS came from what used to be the Democratic-republican party...which broke up in the 1840's...the main faction are today's Democrats.)
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by agabusta: 2:43pm On Nov 06, 2020
iamJ:
people are usually shocked when they realize that, I know the story of how the swap happened but its too long
The only current black judge on the US supreme court was nominated by George Bush senior, a republican.
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by BluntTheApostle(m): 2:47pm On Nov 06, 2020
chrisooblog:
good point you make about the American electoral college system. in Nigeria the north won't necessarily have an advantage like that. Buhari despite his northern base was never able to win national elections until he combined with the dominant SW party and some other strong middle belt, SS, SE politicians. for all of nigeria's poor electoral system you can never win presidential elections without some sort of national consensus
It is believed Buhari won the elections of 2003 and 2007, and even 2011.

As for the 2007 election, Yar'Adua himself admitted that it was massively rigged.

Even the 2011 election was believed to have been more flawed than the 2007 election.
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by Nobody: 2:51pm On Nov 06, 2020
BIDEN TAKES THE LEAD IN PENNSYLVANIA

PENNSYLVANIA GOES BLUE
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by Golan007: 2:51pm On Nov 06, 2020
Biden takes the lead in Pennsylvania with 5587 votes.
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by khingTony(m): 2:52pm On Nov 06, 2020
Pennsylvania is blue



5K+

grin
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by josephni12: 2:52pm On Nov 06, 2020
PA is now blue
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by lymelyte(m): 2:55pm On Nov 06, 2020
PA JUST FLIPPED grin
Re: US Presidential Election 2020 (Live Updates) by Golan007: 2:57pm On Nov 06, 2020
Afamed:
But that's the bitter truth. Pennsylvania will flip to Biden before the end of today.
Already flipped.
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