When the same happened in 2015, some imams proposed passing a 'blasphemous Bill' but UN and these countries brushed it aside like it is irrelevant but 7 EU countries and israel have anti-Holocaust law including France.

US refused the Bill because it is infringement on freedom of speech but they support the law passively. Example was a recent incident in Florida. A teacher was fired for making negative remarks about Holocaust. He specifically denied part of the official story.

Why lose his job because of this?. Holocaust is just like any other wars and persecution in history. Why should Holocaust denial be offensive to them and muslims can't be offended by display of cartoons of the prophet?.

And the reason you will not see Jewish people attack Holocaust denial the way some Muslims attack when cartoons displayed is because of legislation against Holocaust denials. But muslims don't have anyone to report to.

This is why I partly support Kano blasphemy law. Free speech has limit and the West know this. The thing is, as I said before, Islam is a franchise. It is where businesses boom now.

Example is what happened in northern Mali 2-3 years ago which is predominantly Muslim region and they have resources there. France needed a renew of contract to syphon resources but muslims are in their way.

The people came to protest against their president for giving France green light. France realized people are waking up and quickly funded it's mercenaries always on standby. The mercenaries are portrayed Muslims in the media and they were killing locals, "Christians". France sees this as opportunity. I remembered Macron said this is why they must not leave Mali in other to "defeat terrorists". But Malians seen through the nonesense. They physically challenged French troops to leave their country but the soldiers said they won't.

You can confirm this story from Dr Arikana Chihombori too but I watched this online 2yrs ago. My point is, Africans especially Christians need to forgo their stupid hatred for Islam. France knows the moment it mentions "Islamic terrorism" it will get support from Black Christians.

This is why I keep saying that I hope people think like me. I know their stupid game. Their target is resources. They don't care about the people. But "Islamic terrorism" is their perfect enterprise.

Back in the days is was communism and other crappy excuses they used.

See what I'm saying IMAliyu

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=754813011775325&id=102774866979146

Is it after there is reprisal attack everyone will see what's going on in the media and Christians start crying victims all over places again?. Now they are quite. Media turned off and all of a sudden you hear "Christians are persecuted in Nigeria".

I must get this out there so that you guys best witness in case anything happens later.


Life of Igbo Muslims


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxlr96tHiHQ

Empiree:
See what I'm saying IMAliyu

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=754813011775325&id=102774866979146

Is it after there is reprisal attack everyone will see what's going on in the media and Christians start crying victims all over places again?. Now they are quite. Media turned off and all of a sudden you hear "Christians are persecuted in Nigeria".

I must get this out there so that you guys best witness in case anything happens later.


Life of Igbo Muslims


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxlr96tHiHQ

Hmm..
I'm speechless.

If this is not handled delicately it will blow up in the face of everyone.

IMAliyu:


Hmm..
I'm speechless.

If this is not handled delicately it will blow up in the face of everyone.

see the masjid destroyed


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1yarSy7fss

IMAliyu:


Hmm..
I'm speechless.

If this is not handled delicately it will blow up in the face of everyone.

shebi they are waiting for everything to blow out of proportion then media will start screaming "Islamic terrorism". But I hope Hausa keep this cool.

This is what they have been doing in most cases until there come reprisal.

usermane:
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Username. How are you, its been years. Gald to see a post from you. Are ur brothers still attacking you for criticizing the hadiths. By the way are you still a muslim. Hope uare doing fine

Ifeann:

Username. How are you, its been years. Gald to see a post from you. Are ur brothers still attacking you for criticizing the hadiths. By the way are you still a muslim. Hope uare doing fine

Peace.

I'm fine. I'm over hadith criticism at this point. And you may say that I am no longer a theoretical in the traditional sense, since I have my doubts and skepticism in authenticity of Qur'an. Personally though, I just practice Islam to my taste at this point. I can't leave religion or spirituality, for complicated reasons.

Empiree:
As much as I like your inputs sometimes, your last paragraph is a proof that africans have major mental problems as Dr. Arikana Chihombori (former AU Ambassador to US) rightly said. Africans are mentally wounded people as a result of slavery. Until we fight off this madness we will remain in this position forever. Tell me how in the world situation in France is priority for africans, particularly Nigerians?.

Who cares about a bitch beheaded in France while your brothers and sisters were killed by Nigerian govt during endsars protest?. Which has more priority?.

Also did you watch interview by CNN (I think) of a white man about protest in Nigeria?. The man clearly said Black West Africa is not the priority. So why do you think Muslims should take France as their priority?.

Many things coincided in recent weeks and days. They are:

1. mawlid nabi,

2. EndSars protest in Nigeria,

3. terrorism in France where a French was allegedly beheaded.


If Muslims don't make it priority doesn't mean we support the killing. Brother, wake up and stop allowing these clowns use your brain.

As a Muslim, of all the three things I mentioned, putting everything in proper perspective and in good context, my priority is protesters killed in Nigeria followed by mawlud nabi. And the 3rd doesn't even make 3rd on my list because it doesn't fvking concern me.

Why should I care about France when their fellow White man said on national tv that Black killings in Nigeria is irrelevant to them?.

In case you need reference just ask me and I will post the video or you can search for yourself on fb.

Not only that, did you watch another video of a white man delivering message about international relations?. He clearly said that they will never allow Africa to develop or self reliance because if Africa is to manufacture its own products the West will look like third world because "we leave on Africa resources".

So brother, you being African man, why in the world you think a bitch killed in France should be our priority?. All these terrorism you hear up and down are their creation. They have them in handy and are ready to use them when the need arises. Islam is the best business and best enterprise in the world in the last century till this minute.

You either play the game or you will be played. What is going on has nothing to do with Islamic theology. That's just excuse.


Lastly, do you have evidence that a Muslim carried out attack on a teacher or you simply rely on media?.

If you have been paying attention to international politics this should not surprised you. In 2015 same charley hebdo cartoon was published that led to chaos and killings and French election was 2 years away. This killing occured around campaign. Now another election is coming in France in 2yrs, campaign is on again. Islam dominated french media in 2015 election campaign. Islam is dominating again.

So keep allowing them to use your brain. They know what they are doing but Africans don't know what they are doing.

This is what happens when an adult is not ready to accept responsibilities for their actions. You killed, caused chaos and bloodshed because your prophet was insulted but never care about the lives of non-Muslims lost, to Muslims, as a result. And please note that Christianity is more ridiculed in France, by Charlie Hebdo, but nothing happened and no street killings, riot and protest. You cannot visit someone and attempt to impose your lifestyle on him. If you are not comfortable with his lifestyle you are free to leave. Muslims are free to go back to their countries of origin if they cannot abide by French laws.

Empiree:
Fact still remains it is individual thing. No Muslim is responsible for how a Muslim reacts to a situation. We are not homogeneous people. Everyone stands alone before his Lord individually not as a group. Therefore, for any media to blame action of one person on entire Muslims and Islam is unjust. When Christian guy killed 51 people in New Zealand did you hear them blame it on Christianity and entire Christian people?. Afterall I don't even believe their story anyways and they are not my priority. This is why I don't understand why africans carry someone else's cross on their head. Same in 2015, you seen Africans on fb changed their profile picture to French flag #supportfrance #prayforparis. Did you see them reciprocate when Nigerians are killed in this endsars protest?.

Until Africans realize they are nothing to French people they will continue to be slaves.

You are lumping two different issues together to muddle things up. The whole world, the global media, the church, etc condemned what happened in Christchurch New Zealand. Why did the guy do what he did? His complained is that there are too many immigrants in New Zealand and committed a heinous act of terror. His action was not driven by religion but a nationalistic worldview. I condemn him and every sane human should condemn what he did.

The beheading in France was religiously-motivated; the killer did that in the name of Islam to protect the honour of the Islamic prophet hence the world called in Islamic terrorism. What other name do you suggest?

Guy, I'm not gonna mention your moniker to avoid issues. But why did you have to report my post?. My post did not violate NL rules. Does it mean you are intolerant?.

I hope you didn't report me?. This is not fair now, brother.

true2god:
You are lumping two different

the only questions I have for you for now are: who controls media in the world?

Did you hear directly from the guy that he committed his crime because of overpopulated immigrants in his country?

#5. Penned Response the Uyghuir(Muslims) Cries

Citation here: https://www.nairaland.com/1850854/pened-response-uyghurs-muslims-cries

We live in an age where everyone claims to be oppressed. Nigerians are oppressed by SARS, blacks are oppressed by whites, whites are oppressed by Jews, Jews are oppressed by Christians/Muslims, and of course, Muslims are oppressed by Jews/Christians. It's the world we live in.

In my study on oppression narratives, I find that more often, the people who claim to be oppressed are themselves not innocent victims. And thus, the basic premise of the thread was to pose this simple question;

Why is it fine for Muslim countries to enforce pro-Islamic policies even upon non-Muslims, but somehow for the Chinese Communist Party(CCP) to enforce pro-communist principles upon Muslims is crime?

The same way Iran, Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan criminalizes any idea it considers a threat to Islam, so does the CCP criminalizes Islam as a threat to communism. Muslims consider homosexuality or fornication as cardinal threats. The CCP & her partisan considers the mosques and open practice of Islam, as threats.

An objection you might raise is; 'What kind of threat are people who are just going to the mosque or fasting? And how do they compare with 'fornicators and homosexuals' who ruin communities with infections and decadence?

Well, as the name states, the ruling ideology in China is communism. And the ultimate goal of communism is to unite the working class against the middle class in order to eliminate all class and social inequalities. Communists consider religions like Islam to be divisive of the working class and an obstacle to achieving this goal.

Empiree:
Guy, I'm not gonna mention your moniker to avoid issues. But why did you have to report my post?. My post did not violate NL rules. Does it mean you are intolerant?.

I hope you didn't report me?. This is not fair now, brother.

I had nothing to do with it. It might've been antispam bot.

usermane:


I had nothing to do with it. It might've been antispam bot.

alright then. I apologise

IMAliyu:


Hmm..
I'm speechless.

If this is not handled delicately it will blow up in the face of everyone.

I doubt there can be peace anywhere Islam takes root. I hope the peace the Igbo people have enjoyed for over 2000 years (except the Nigeria civil war) will not be compromised by the entry of an aggressive political Islam. The Igbo people have suffered too much and Islam will SURELY compound the many problems in the region.

Civilization is never conquered from without except it has been weakened from within.

Empiree:
shebi they are waiting for everything blow out of proportion them media will start screaming "Islamic terrorism". But I hope Hausa keep this cool.

This is what they have been doing in most cases until there come reprisal.

You guys are pathetic. Go and read the full story behind that and stop this stupid propaganda.

Compare the number of churches that had been burnt in this country to the number of mosques.

Whenever you guys are paid back in your own coin you guys start shouting islamphobia.

We knew what you guys did just because Wike called Rivers a Christian state but you guys have syoopid sharia nonsense running full time in the North.

Keep deceiving yourself with stoopid Islamic propaganda against Igbo Christians. No moslem was killed in the East

true2god:
I doubt there can be peace anywhere Islam takes root. I hope the peace the Igbo people have enjoyed for over 2000 years (except the Nigeria civil war) will not be compromised by the entry of an aggressive political Islam. The Igbo people have suffered too much and Islam will SURELY compound the many problems in the region.

Civilization is never conquered from without except it has been weakened from within.

We won't even allow political Islam to take root in the East. It is too dangerous to our lifestyle.

#6. Qur'an: The Iron(57)

Citation here; https://www.nairaland.com/1863386/quran-iron-57

This is an attempt of Qur'anic exegesis on my part. Here I cover the 29 verses of Qur'an chapter 57, presenting my interpretation. It serves to remind Muslim readers that we don't need hadith or classical tafsir to understand the Qur'an. I'm an advocate for individual interpretation of Qur'an and oppose the monopoly of traditonalist exegetes from the middle age on interpretation of Qur'an. We should be able to challenge and divert from orthodox interpretations of verses.

The highlight of the thread is the 25th verse, where I observe a scientific miracle pertaining to Iron - the fact that 57, the chapter number is the mass number of the element, that 26, the atomic number of Iron is the count of the word "God" up till this verse, and is in fact the verse number of this verse if you count basmallah as the first verse in the chapter.

But if the Qur'an is embedded with so much of these scientific hints that were only discovered today, why would anyone doubt it?

Well, I addressed this in one of my penultimate threads on contradictions between Qur'an and Science. The presence of any numerical or scientific code in the Qur'an does not detract from the fact that there are verses that could and have been interpreted to yield factually inaccurate views.

The oft-repeated claim is that there is no error in the Qur'an. Yet this is disputable. It stems from confirmation bias on the part of Muslim readers, who are determined to derive interpretation that fits with the already established facts.

But the earlier scholars who did not have access to the vast array of scientific facts we've uncovered today could not afford confirmation bias as modern scholars. They read the Qur'an and resolved it imply that the atmosphere is a solid dome, that the sun runs to a resting place and that an embryo starts out as a blood clot.

Another issue with the numerical and scientific miracles of the Qur'an is just how there is no consistent methodology to derive them. And how it is up to the reader to make and break the rules to deduce these miracles. Sometimes basmallah may be added to the count of verses, other times it isn't. Sometimes gematric values of the Arabic words are considered, other times it is the number of words in the verses that are counted.

#7. The Puzzled's Guide To Jizya

Citation here - https://www.nairaland.com/1880974/puzzled-guide-jizya

In this thread, I cover the clear distinction between Jizya in the Qur'an and Jizya in the traditional Muslim religion. I refute the oft-repeated claims that jizya in the traditional Muslim religion or Qur'an is equivalent to modern tax, or that jizya is to Christian as zakat is to Muslim under Qur'anic law.

These claims are portrayal of the deteriorated state of Islamic and General education among Muslim, plus they also explain the 'moderate' Muslim's rational struggle with his faith. My decision to create this thread was borne out of hostile responses I received a former thread - Penned Response To The Uyghur(Muslim's) Cries.

I wrote on that thread that I have barely sympathy for "oppressed" Muslims who ironically support sharia laws that oppress non-Muslims. Of course, you had all these Muslims who challenged me to prove sharia oppresses anyone. Thus, I raised the issue of jizya.

But as it happened, I must've been dealing with very dumb or dishonest Muslims. They had all these ridiculous analogies between jizya and zakat or modern taxes to deny jizya does oppresses non-Muslims under sharia rule. These necessitated me to address the issue on a different thread.

#8. Why the Zionist Enemies of the Prophet Muhammad LOVE HADITH even More than Sunnis and Shiites?

Citation here - https://19.org/blog/zionists-love-hadiths

This is another thread that was deleted by the mods. As you might've noticed from the URL in the citation, the article in the thread was not mine. I was reposting an article from another Qur'anist's website.

One talking point of my Sunni & Shiites adversaries in previous years was this; "Oh, look! The Christians really appreciate your brand of Islam, you must be on the wrong then." I call them adversary because they're not merely critics of my Islamic views, they're nasty, vindictive, and manipulative keyboard jihadists that loomed over Islam For Muslim section.

And I prove them wrong in this thread. There are non-Muslims that don't appreciate the Qur'anist view because they consider it to be 'white washing' Islam and Muhammad. Think of it, if you reject hadith books you won't have to deal with Muhammad's alleged child marriage, the command to kill all black dogs, or the command to fight people until they make shahada.

In the article, Edip Yuksel, the writer points out that just as Sunnis and Shiites love and depend on hadith books, so do vile enemies of Muslims that want wars against Muslims. Here's an excerpt of what Edip writes;

I have exposed Kasem and other ardent enemies of Islam and Muhammed who are used by a rabid warmonger, David Horowitz, the founder of a Zionist propaganda machine, FrontPage Magazine. I have published my debates with Robert Spencer, Bill Warner, Abu Kasem, and Ali Sina in a book titled: Peacemaker’s Guide to War Mongers.

These enemies of Islam who have been promoting wars, torture, and genocide against Muslims around the world for more than a decade, are all in love with hadith. When I debated with them, they all insisted on hadiths, which were fabricated centuries after Muhammed. Over and over, they repeated the need for hadith to understand the Quran.

And then Edip proceeds to present an excerpt from FrontPage Magazine web post listing some of the foulest hadith reports on Muhammad, women, non-Muslims, etc. Now, for me as a Qur'anist, I don't have any problem with Robert Spencer, etc. I've listened to them, contrary to Edip they're not warmongers, and I consider their bashing of "Islam" to be part of a civil discourse that is needed on Islam.

#9. Refuting The Hadith Defenders' Book

Yet again, this is another Topic that the moderators deleted. It was an attempt to refute Bassam Zawadi's post; Questions That Quranites Have No Good Logical Responses To. Because of Mclotunji's overbearance & high-handedness, I resolved to start a blog & post the topic there. I had already taken so much pain to respond to Bassam Zawadi, and wasn't going to give up for a few Muslims who cannot stand my view.

This is the link to the topic - https://flamesoftruth./2014/10/06/refuting-the-hadith-defender-book/

I cover issues like the myth on absence of Qur'anists in the early years of Islam, how can we perform salat & zakat, follow the messenger with the Qur'an alone? etc. All these issues traditionalists raise stems from poor reading of history, subjective interpretation of Islam, and of course a level of dishonesty.

#10. What Is Mazaje Missing?

Citation here - https://www.nairaland.com/1893782/what-mazaje-missing

At this point, I've been already banned from Islam for Muslim section. So, I hung around Religion section creating Islamic posts of relevance to non-Muslims. Back in 2014, staunch critics of Muslims frequented Religion section. Notably atheists, they'd go into great details on how Muslims generally suck and how Christians are more cultured and reasonable folks than Muslims.

These critics fail to account for historical contextual differences that turned the Christian West into the first world & the Muslim East into an economic & social backwater. The result of this is the harmful conclusion that "Islam & Muslims are hostile & not amendable." Which often lead to non-Muslims constantly nitpicking or witch-hunting Muslims or constantly bending over back ward to placate Muslims.

I spelled out in this post that we should cut Muslims some slack. And I go into specifics about the historical realities that have abandoned Muslims in the middle age while their Christian counterpart paved the way forward into the new age.