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Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 9:04pm On Aug 18, 2014
"The Iron" is the title of the 57th chapter of the Qur'an which posses 29 verses. The Chapter explains God 's unique attributes, His handwork in nature, requirements of man to attain salvation and man 's final abode in the hereafter depending on his deeds on earth.

A marked point of this thread is the analysis of the 26th verse of the chapter which on scrutiny reveals a miraculous mix of scientific and mathematical facts.

We start with the first six verses.
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 9:06pm On Aug 18, 2014

[57:0] In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

[57:1] Glorifying GOD is everything in the heavens and the earth. He is the Almighty, Most Wise.

[57:2] To Him belongs the kingship of the heavens and the earth. He controls life and death. He is Omnipotent.

[57:3] He is the Alpha and the Omega. He is the Outermost and the Innermost. He is fully aware of all things.

[57:4] He is the One who created the heavens and the earth in six days, then assumed all authority. He knows everything that enters into the earth, and everything that comes out of it, and everything that comes down from the sky, and everything that climbs into it. He is with you wherever you may be. GOD is Seer of everything you do.

[57:5] To Him belongs the kingship of the heavens and the earth. All matters are controlled by GOD.

[57:6] He merges the night into the day, and merges the day into the night. He is fully aware of the innermost thoughts.
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 9:07pm On Aug 18, 2014
God introduces Himself, His sovereignty over everything or matter. That includes His kingship over heaven and earth, control of life and death, merging of night into day and day into night.

God created the universe in 6 days, contrary to the Judeo-Christian reports, it is never mentioned in the final testament that God rested after creation. God assumed authority after creating the universe with full knowledge of everything including our innermost thoughts!
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 9:11pm On Aug 18, 2014

[57:7] Believe in GOD and His messenger, and give from what He has bestowed upon you. Those among you who believe and give (to charity) have deserved a great recompense.
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 9:12pm On Aug 18, 2014
Next, God commands of us to acknowledge Him, the Sovereign, the Creator, Alpha and Omega and the One with knowledge of everything. To do so, we must believe in His messenger who relays the divine message to us.

That been done, man is commanded to spend out of what God has bestowed him with; health, time, wealth in assisting or serving the course of good. God isn't in need of this spending, man 's neighbours among whom are poor and needy benefits from these spendings and above all, a handsome reward awaits those who spend in the course of good, be it donating alms, comforting the stranded or catering for the sick.
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 9:16pm On Aug 18, 2014

[57:8] Why should you not believe in GOD when the messenger is inviting you to believe in your Lord? He has taken a pledge from you, if you are believers.

[57:9] He is the One who sends down to His servant clear revelations, in order to lead you out of the darkness into the light. GOD is Compassionate towards you, Most Merciful.
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 9:17pm On Aug 18, 2014
Although, Christians, Jews Zoroastrians and Pagans in those days held false perception of God, they all agree that God is a Superhuman being Who created them and all in existence. So, when a man came calling with an entirely different perception of God as outlined in the Quran, there were doubts about his authenticity.

And thus, upon defining Himself, God affirms that He, the One whom they all "claim to believe in" is the One sending His servant(Messenger) to lead into the light.

Out of His infinite compassion, God sends his messenger to rescue men from drowning in superstitions, enslavement in tyranny, regressing in dogmas or withering in idolatry.
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by Empiree: 8:41am On Aug 20, 2014
usermane: Next, God commands of us to acknowledge Him, the Sovereign, the Creator, Alpha and Omega and the One with knowledge of everything. To do so, we must believe in His messenger who relays the divine message to us.

That been done, man is commanded to spend out of what God has bestowed him with; health, time, wealth in assisting or serving the course of good. God isn't in need of this spending, man 's neighbours among whom are poor and needy benefits from these spendings and above all, a handsome reward awaits those who spend in the course of good, be it donating alms, comforting the stranded or catering for the sick.

@bold is what brings about Kilafah (Caliphate) which you do not acknowledged (not those rags in iraq). The bold is not secular govt. Secular govt/country does not recognize God's Sovereignty which you admire. Is "huruf" your ID on your website (in your signature)?
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 8:50pm On Aug 20, 2014
Empiree:

@bold is what brings about Kilafah (Caliphate) which you do not acknowledged (not those rags in iraq). The bold is not secular govt. Secular govt/country does not recognize God's Sovereignty which you admire.

Peace!

[Quran 10:108]
Say, "O mankind, the truth has come to you from your Lord, so whoever is guided is only guided for his soul, and whoever goes astray only goes astray against it. And I am not over you a manager."

[Quran 10:109]
And follow what is revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and be patient until God will judge. And He is the best of judges.

Even Muhammad, the Head of the Medina state, the Prophet at that time was only a warner, not an authority or guardian to enforce what is Islamic and so how can you tell us that the Islamic state has this right if at all the state in question judge by the Quran?

Your concept of Islamic state is similar to the recent IS and Taliban of the late 90s. It open doors to tyranny, oligarchy, oppression and hypocrisy since by forcing every muslim to comply with virtually everything in Islam, one doesn't neccessarily practice out of conviction but out of compulsion by the state. Isn't this relative to compelling people to embrace Islam? What if the state 's interpretation of Islam is wrong?
And then where does God 's trial for believers come in?

Empiree:
Is "huruf" your ID on your website (in your signature)?
No, am not huruf. Lets just keep it that simple.
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 9:01pm On Aug 20, 2014

[57:10] Why do you not spend in the cause of GOD, when GOD possesses all wealth in the heavens and the earth?

Distinguished from the rest are those among you who spend before the victory and strive. They attain a greater rank than those who spend after the victory and strive. For each, GOD promises salvation. GOD is Cognizant of everything you do.

[57:11] Who would like to loan GOD a loan of righteousness, to have it multiplied for him manifold, and end up with a generous recompense?
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 9:02pm On Aug 20, 2014
None of our possesions truely belong to us. Everything we own come from God who commands of us to spend out of them in His course. Although we are all rewarded handsomely for spending in His cause, the reward for spending in the infant and delicate stage of establishment of His course topples that of spending at the later or older phases when the course is virtually established.

To start is more difficult than to take over, a task begun is half completed.
For instance, those among the pioneer muslims that contrbuted in spread and defence of God 's system earn more than those contributors to Islam in succeeding generations. This is for the fact that, the risks, the resistances that the early muslims faced were harder than those of the later generations.
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 9:04pm On Aug 20, 2014

[57:12] The day will come when you see the believing men and women with their lights radiating ahead of them and to their right. Good news is yours that, on that day, you will have gardens with flowing streams. You will abide therein forever. This is the great triumph.
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 9:05pm On Aug 20, 2014
Although the righteous face sacrifices, trials and tribulations on earth, in the end they have nothing to lose in both worlds. Thus, those who believe while upholding righteousness should hang on. It only get better.

The reward of belief and righteousness can't be imagined by man, thus God uses allegories in his description of Paradise. However, we know that what await the believers and good doers is a beautiful, comforting and fun abode with no drawback, thirst or hardship.
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 9:06pm On Aug 20, 2014

[57:13] On that day, the hypocrite men and women will say to those who believed, "Please allow us to absorb some of your light." It will be said, "Go back behind you, and seek light." A barrier will be set up between them, whose gate separates mercy on the inner side, from retribution on the outer side.

[57:14] They will call upon them, "Were we not with you?" They will answer, "Yes, but you cheated your souls, hesitated, doubted, and became misled by wishful thinking, until GOD's judgment came. You were diverted from GOD by illusions.

[57:15] "Therefore, today no ransom can be taken from you, nor from those who disbelieved. Your abode is the fire; it is your lord, and miserable abode."
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 9:07pm On Aug 20, 2014
At least, the unbeliever is honest in expressing his ideology. But the hypocrite is a fraud. Hypocrisy masks the dirty, twisted interior thereby warding off diagnosis and correction.

Whenever we find the word "hypocrite" in our Scripture, we assume a man who publicly pretend to pray and worship as we do but does otherwise in privacy. Not wrong, but quite shallow definition of hypocrisy. An hypocrite is a double thinker.
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 9:08pm On Aug 20, 2014
He pretends to be democrat, human right activist. Infact, he keep to this in his homeland but on the flip side, he protects and support tyrannic regimes that repress liberals and democrats in another land.
Or he join you to protest for fredomn of beliefs, lecturing you over and over on how his religion endorses freedom to believe or disbelieve, yet the same person advocate death for apostacy in line with his religious ideology.
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 9:12pm On Aug 20, 2014
The believers will be dermacated from the hypocrites on the day of reckoning. The believers' response to the hypocrites' call help us understand the hypocrite better. Of course, the hypocrite might join us in promoting equity, justice, peace and tolerance but in truth these values do not matter to the hypocrite. Rather, the hypocrite is devoted to his illusions, ideology which often contradict the same values he joins us in promoting, thus deviating and distancing him from us.

The Qur'an species the heaviest cross will be borne by hypocrites when mankind return back to their Lord.
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 9:13pm On Aug 20, 2014
[57:16] Is it not time for those who believed to open up their hearts for GOD's message, and the truth that is revealed herein? They should not be like the followers of previous scriptures whose hearts became hardened with time and, consequently, many of them turned wicked.

[57:17] Know that GOD revives the land after it had died. We thus explain the revelations for you, that you may understand.
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 9:14pm On Aug 20, 2014
On conviction, you have to reverence the revealation(Quran 18:27, 7:3), living according to it(Quran 4:105). The path of deviation trails from self indulgence or blind compliance with extra-scriptural teachings like oral traditions or words of leaders, scholars and clergies. History reports that humanity has been failing in this regard.
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 9:15pm On Aug 20, 2014
The Tanakh, Gospel and Qur'an were delivered millineums ago to different communities who either lost these Books or abandoned them.
The Jews invented oral traditions(Talmud) centuries after the Tanakh, the Christians too introduced oral traditions after the Gospels and the Muslims followed suit with Hadith & Sunnah about 2 centuries after the Qur'an. Although these traditions were attributed to God and His messengers, they are infant blatant fabrications by enemies of the Prophets(Quran 6:112-113, Mark 7:6-13). And more often than explain the scriptures as we are told, these traditions are smart means of getting them idolise mortals, commit 'holy' atrocities, and luring them away from the scriptures whilst giving them a false sense of righteousness.
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 9:18pm On Aug 20, 2014
Consequently, their hearts harden towards the word of God and they become transgressors. For instance, question a Christian for eating pork and he 'll respond that what goes into the stomach is not relevant but what the heart is filled with. Remind a Muslim girl of Mid day Salat and she could tell you that because she is on her menstral period, Salat isn't permitted for her. Yet we find verses in the Bible that prohibit eating pork, we find no verse in the Qur'an prohibiting anything for the menstruating woman except sex. But because these people prefer their lust or extra scriptural teaching, they disregard, abrogate, adulterate God 's teaching without concern.
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by Empiree: 9:46pm On Aug 20, 2014
usermane:

Peace!


[s]Even Muhammad, the Head of the Medina state, the Prophet at that time was only a warner, not an authority or guardian to enforce what is Islamic and so how can you tell us that the Islamic state has this right if at all the state in question judge by the Quran?
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Sura Maida ayat 47-49 trashes your opinion. You are just a misguided fellow. But no offense.

"O you who believe! Obey Allah and [color=#000099]His Messenger and those of you who are in authority. If you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if you believe in Allah and in the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for final determination."[/color] [Holy Quran 4:59]
As'shura (consultation) falls in this cycle. It's not totalitarian my friend. That's your opinion.

You also made misguided statement on your website that women are not forbidden from praying during menstruation?. Just tell me you didn't write or believe that?.

In the ayah, Allah describes menstruation as impure, unclean and deems it haram for men to approach them (have intercourse) in that state until the period is over. Allah is pure and accept nothing but clean and pure. Not even men should approach Salat in the state of Janaba.
Question is if God is pure how can He accept women's salat in menstruation?. Menstruation is unclean my friend. I feel sorry for you my friend.
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 11:26am On Aug 21, 2014
^^^

[5:49] You shall rule among them in accordance with GOD's revelations to you. Do not follow their wishes, and beware lest they divert you from some of GOD's revelations to you. If they turn away, then know that GOD wills to punish them for some of their sins. Indeed, many people are wicked.

[5:92] You shall obey GOD, and you shall obey the messenger, and beware. If you turn away, then know that the sole duty of our messenger is to deliver the message efficiently.
Yes i have read 5:47-49, read how it concludes in verse 49.
The Prophet was ordered to rule according to the Qur'an, not his wishes or anyone else 's. So what happen if the people turn away?
On the event of that, God tells the Prophet that He the Almighty will punish them, not the Prophet, not the State.
In Qur'an 5:92 God also tell those who turn away that the Prophet 's only role to them is delivery of the message, he has no business with anyone who turn away from the message.

Empiree:

"O you who believe! Obey Allah and His Messenger and those of you who are in authority. If you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if you believe in Allah and in the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for final determination." [Holy Quran 4:59]
As'shura (consultation) falls in this cycle. It's not totalitarian my friend. That's your opinion.

If i tell my son to obey his teacher, i haven't said the teacher has the right to penalise him for disobedience.
If i tell a patient to obey his doctor, am not saying the doctor can force him to follow instructions or penalise him for not doing so.
The Islamic state has it concerns, for which it can compel and punish but talk of Scriptural rules and practices the State like the Prophet can only warn, not compel or punish.

Empiree:
You also made misguided statement on your website that women are not forbidden from praying during menstruation?. Just tell me you didn't write or believe that?.

In the ayah, Allah describes menstruation as impure, unclean and deems it haram for men to approach them (have intercourse) in that state until the period is over. Allah is pure and accept nothing but clean and pure. Not even men should approach Salat in the state of Janaba.
Question is if God is pure how can He accept women's salat in menstruation?. Menstruation is unclean my friend.

Quote a single verse where 'women' on menstruation are deem impure and unfit for Salat. Qur'an 2:222 says it is harmful and so unlawful to have sex during menstruation. It didn't state menstruating women are impure. If Salat during menstruation is prohibitted as sex, why isn't salat mentioned in this verse as well?

In Qur'an 4:43, intoxication, sex, orgasm, urination and defeacation without washing or bathing were clearly stated as situations under which one shouldn't observe Salat. Why again is 'Menses' not stated as one of these situation?

Here is your daily hadith

Sahih Bukhari
Volume 1, Book 6, Number 307:

Narrated 'Aisha: "One of the wives of Allah's Apostle joined him in l'tikaf and she noticed blood and yellowish discharge (from her private parts) and put a dish under her when she prayed."

Quite alright, menses is normally red but in rare cases, microbial infection in the vagina could result in blood and yellow discharge during menstruation. So, with this, there are chances the Prophet 's wife that prayed here was actually menstruating.

Then again, even if that wasn't the case. Blood and yellow discharge from the vagina is just as impure as menses, especial if it is serious enough that the woman has collect the fluid with a dish. So, how come a woman under such an "impure" state is praying here?
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by Empiree: 11:37am On Aug 21, 2014
You mixing the point my friend. Ruling them and judging them by Quran is different from delivery of message. Ruling over people is a matter of governing people. Accepting God's message delivered by the messanger is completely another and people have option of accepting or rejecting the message. Maida verses 47-49 is clearly talking about ruling/govt over people NOT message. These verses clearly talking about govt my friend

Example, Govt has the right to punish if you steal(ruling - Maida vs 47-49) by constitutional standard but govt has no right to force you to vote (the message). Got the point? You collabo different stuff grin

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Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by Empiree: 11:51am On Aug 21, 2014
usermane: ^^^

Yes i have read 5:47-49, read how it concludes in verse 49.
The Prophet was ordered to rule according to the Qur'an, not his wishes or anyone else 's. So what happen if the people turn away?
On the event of that, God tells the Prophet that He the Almighty will punish them, not the Prophet, not the State.
In Qur'an 5:92 God also tell those who turn away that the Prophet 's only role to them is delivery of the message, he has no business with anyone who turn away from the message.



If i tell my son to obey his teacher, i haven't said the teacher has the right to penalise him for disobedience.
If i tell a patient to obey his doctor, am not saying the doctor can force him to follow instructions or penalise him for not doing so.
The Islamic state has it concerns, for which it can compel and punish but talk of Scriptural rules and practices the State like the Prophet can only warn, not compel or punish.



Quote a single verse where 'women' on menstruation are deem impure and unfit for Salat. Qur'an 2:222 says it is harmful and so unlawful to have sex during menstruation. It didn't state menstruating women are impure. If Salat during menstruation is prohibitted as sex, why isn't salat mentioned in this verse as well?

In Qur'an 4:43, intoxication, sex, orgasm, urination and defeacation without washing or bathing were clearly stated as situations under which one shouldn't observe Salat. Why again is 'Menses' not stated as one of these situation?

Here is your daily hadith


Quite alright, menses is normally red but in rare cases, microbial infection in the vagina could result in blood and yellow discharge during menstruation. So, with this, there are chances the Prophet 's wife that prayed here was actually menstruating.

Then again, even if that wasn't the case. Blood and yellow discharge from the vagina is just as impure as menses, especial if it is serious enough that the woman has collect the fluid with a dish. So, how come a woman under such an "impure" state is praying here?

eh eh eh, my friend, i thought you dont believe in Hadith?. Prayer talking about here is Salat, the obligatory ones. To avoid them during state of impurity i:e like menstruation. Menstruating women may say other (voluntary prayer) or good deeds as far as i know. I think you need to learn "system of meaning", tawil of Quran. It seems you just interpreting Quran base on whim. It's okay though. Thats your prerogative.
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 4:00pm On Aug 21, 2014
Empiree:
You mixing the point my friend. Ruling them and judging them by Quran is different from delivery of message. Ruling over people is a matter of governing people. Accepting God's message delivered by the messanger is completely another and people have option of accepting or rejecting the message. Maida verses 47-49 is clearly talking about ruling/ govt over people NOT message. These verses clearly talking about govt my friend

Whoever disputed the difference, at the start of verse 49, the Prophet was ordered to rule, to govern and to instruct the people with the Scripture. At the end of the verse, the Prophet was told that those who turn away from his rule will be punished, by whom? None but God.

Note that that this is the same verse that speak of governing. And we find no words in it that empower either the Prophet or state to compel and punish the defaulters who turn away from the Scriptural rules. So, how am i the one missing the point?
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by Empiree: 7:07pm On Aug 21, 2014
usermane:

Whoever disputed the difference, at the start of verse 49, [b]the Prophet was ordered [/b]to rule, to govern and to instruct the people with the Scripture. At the end of the verse, the Prophet was told that those who turn away from his rule will be punished, by whom? None but God.

Note that that this is the same verse that speak of governing. And we find no words in it that empower either the Prophet or state to compel and punish the defaulters who turn away from the Scriptural rules. So, how am i the one missing the point?

@blue is my point. There is govt in Islam. So according to you if someone steals he may go free if he doesnt want to be punished?. You kidding right?. Looks like you look the other way when Quran speaks of punishments for this and that.

Example, punishment for zina (Sura Nur ayah 2). Your objection?
Again, punishment for theft (sura Maida ayah 38 - 39). Your objection?

Isnt this talking about govt? or who else do you think enforces the Law?. Bro, i feel sorry for you. Yes, they have option of asking for forgiveness but punishment is set and must be enforced as deterrent. My friend, you need to study Sirat of Prophet Muhammad(SAW). If you think this is individual thing, it means your ideology will create anarchy on earth .

Maybe you should read the beginging of Chapter 24. You think that's not authority?. Listen my friend, State in Islam is the same module of State like that of Nabi Daud and Sulaimon (alaiy salam).

There is system of meaning in tawil of Quran. You do not take any verse of Quran or hadith in isolation to derive opinion. Instead you study a subject in its entirety to derive meaning. Otherwise, you will end up in limbo.
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 11:28pm On Aug 21, 2014
Adultery, theft and murder are acts that directly hurt another party and for the sake of Justice, the Qur'an explicitly stated their penalties thereby giving the state the role of punishing offenders. That goes for other acts like bribery, assault, rape. But with or without the Islamic states, these crimes don't go unpunished in any society, including the secular states which you claim do not recognise the sovereignty of God. With this, why the emphasis on "Islamic" state?

Sharia advocate groups like Boko haram, IS, Muslim Brotherhood etc don't want an Islamic state because they want to punish thieves, adulterers or murderers, comm' on even under the status quo these criminals aren entertained.
They want it because they want to kill muslims who do not pray or give zakat, kill ex-muslims for apostacy, kill persons for condemning Quran or Muhammad, severely penalise gamblers, drinkers, usury bankers etc in the name of Islam.

These may be evil acts as far as the Qur'an is concerned but they do not directly harm anyone, there aren't penalties stipulated in the Qur'an for offenders and so under the name of Islam none can compel or punish another concerning these acts. There are certain crimes to be punished by God alone.

Finally, it is time i focus soley on the topic. I won't be digress anymore.
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by Empiree: 12:16am On Aug 22, 2014
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usermane: Adultery, theft and murder are acts that directly hurt another party and for the sake of Justice, the Qur'an explicitly stated their penalties thereby giving the state the role of punishing offenders. That goes for other acts like bribery, assault, rape. But with or without the Islamic states, these crimes don't go unpunished in any society, including the secular states which you claim do not recognise the sovereignty of God. With this, why the emphasis on "Islamic" state?

Sharia advocate groups like Boko haram, IS, Muslim Brotherhood etc don't want an Islamic state because they want to punish thieves, adulterers or murderers, comm' on even under the status quo these criminals aren entertained.
They want it because they want to kill muslims who do not pray or give zakat, kill ex-muslims for apostacy, kill persons for condemning Quran or Muhammad, severely penalise gamblers, drinkers, usury bankers etc in the name of Islam.

These may be evil acts as far as the Qur'an is concerned but they do not directly harm anyone, there aren't penalties stipulated in the Qur'an for offenders and so under the name of Islam none can compel or punish another concerning these acts. There are certain crimes to be punished by God alone.

Finally, it is time i focus soley on the topic. I won't be digress anymore.
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Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 8:18am On Aug 22, 2014
^^^^
So long, Empiree. So long.
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by Empiree: 12:01pm On Aug 22, 2014
usermane: ^^^^
So long, Empiree. So long.

Pardon me, what do you mean?.
Re: Qur'an: The Iron(57) by usermane(m): 9:18pm On Aug 24, 2014

[57:18] Surely, the charitable men and women have loaned GOD a loan of goodness. They will receive their reward multiplied manifold; they have deserved a generous recompense.

We return to charity and its immeasurable recompense. It is likened to a loan, the return of which is multiplied manifold by God.

Its speciality is that unlike other rites, another person directly benefits from it. Aside the giver, the receiver also benefits from Charity.

Charity is the only rite that can be performed at any time or place. This is unlike salat, fasting or hajj. Charity can even take the form of comforting the downtrodden, donating a kidney, peacekeeping or guiding and counselling. Aside the spiritual benefits, charity has numerous benefits beyond the scope of this topic.

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