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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by beejay1(m): 6:59pm On Nov 07, 2020
Hello all, thanks for the consistency....I want to tile 29sqm floor and 127sqm wall. How much will a tiller charge me for labor? do they charge per sqm? the property is in the south south....thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 7:02pm On Nov 07, 2020
beejay1:
Hello all, thanks for the consistency....I want to tile 29sqm floor and 127sqm wall. How much will a tiller charge me for labor? do they charge per sqm? the property is in the south south....thanks

They normally charge per square meter. Their rate is between 300 and 400naira per square meter

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by beejay1(m): 7:22pm On Nov 07, 2020
Thanks topsy23....this is the 2nd time you are making my day...own you a recharge card smiley

topsy23:


They normally charge per square meter. Their rate is between 300 and 400naira per square meter

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by amosblisz: 7:47pm On Nov 07, 2020
Badgers14:


Please help my guy here, na beg I dey beg grin

My guy is now counting the tires of a truck to make sure he is not cheated grin grin

I thought the post was funny... but this tells us how low we have sunk as humans.. too greedy.. people cheat their fellow mankind from a painter of garri to 30 ton granite..

I just taya for the matta broda ��‍♂️
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by amosblisz: 7:56pm On Nov 07, 2020
EgunMogaji2:


Generally, a ten tire truck carries twenty ton material allegedly.

Until someone comes up with a mobile truck scale then we’re just relying on hope.

One of my favorite suppliers runs a DAF twenty ten wheel truck. When I ordered thirty ton granite from him he said he can only load twenty five ton maximum.

I wish you had more trust in your engineer maybe find a qualified one that you can also trust. We’ve read all sorts of things on here in the past. Allegations of people parking vans by the site to remove materials at night, inflated invoices loaded with kickbacks, collusion with rogue family members, etc

Only God can “safe” us homeowners grin


I tell u, it's quite terrible even when I try to trust him to an extent he still acts the cheating way

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 8:05pm On Nov 07, 2020
amosblisz:


I tell u, it's quite terrible even when I try to trust him to an extent he still acts the cheating way
https://www.nairaland.com/2317107/different-ways-could-ripped-off
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 8:24pm On Nov 07, 2020
QSFemi:
Good morning.

It depends on the type of tiles you're buying.

If you're buying 400mm x 400mm porcelain tiles, you will need approximately 9 cartons.


How many pieces is in a carton?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by write2obi(m): 8:53pm On Nov 07, 2020
beejay1:
Hello all, thanks for the consistency....I want to tile 29sqm floor and 127sqm wall. How much will a tiller charge me for labor? do they charge per sqm? the property is in the south south....thanks
They charge per sqm, but the job is too small to be charged per sqm in my opinion, unless you can get a tiler in your locality.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 9:01pm On Nov 07, 2020
12 pieces.

[qquote author=Badgers14 post=95796497]

How many pieces is in a carton?[/quote]
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Javaside: 9:28pm On Nov 07, 2020
Hello All,

Many thanks for the information being provided here.

Please can someone help with an estimated cost of a four bedroom flat bungalow with just 2 toilets -- need to compare with estimated cost received from an engineer. Below is the cost received from an engineer for foundation

Foundation

Blocks- 1500 - #225,000
Sand- 2 Trips- #56,000
Water- #10,000
Digging- #120,000
Granite- #75,000
43 bags of cement- #120,400

*TOTAL*= #666,490

Pegging 70k
Casting 130k.

Bosses in the house kindly assist to validate
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Opeyemi4real(m): 10:36pm On Nov 07, 2020
EgunMogaji2:


I think they’ll need more info than that.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Opeyemi4real(m): 10:36pm On Nov 07, 2020
Opeyemi4real:
Good day,
Please how much wood and Ghana zinc do i need to roof 27ft by 30ft building? Thank you in advance
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:42pm On Nov 07, 2020
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by aghaibiam(f): 1:07am On Nov 08, 2020
SOS! I bought brimix shower heads and they were installed by the plumber for my new home in September.Now they are not working.All 3 rooms,the overhead water tank height is ok.what can possibly be wrong? Pictures are not attaching.
@rotech77 please help me!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 1:27am On Nov 08, 2020
aghaibiam:
SOS! I bought brimix shower heads and they were installed by the plumber for my new home in September.Now they are not working.All 3 rooms,the overhead water tank height is ok.what can possibly be wrong? Pictures are not attaching.
@rotech77 please help me!

If I may?

1) Are all other outlets flowing water?

2) I have a filter at my stanchion and I’ve noticed increased pressure if I bleed it using the bleed needle on the filter.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by micgray100(m): 3:27am On Nov 08, 2020
aghaibiam:
SOS! I bought brimix shower heads and they were installed by the plumber for my new home in September.Now they are not working.All 3 rooms,the overhead water tank height is ok.what can possibly be wrong? Pictures are not attaching.
@rotech77 please help me!

what I always advice clients in your situation is to remove all fitting like the brimix shower head, fitters and all new model tap heads first.. see the pressure of water yourself by controlling it from the main tap after the tank..

observe two things... leakage and pressure...

once you are satisfied with the two above... all fitting problems can be easily diagnosed.

Engr. Gbenga

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by micgray100(m): 3:43am On Nov 08, 2020
Javaside:
Hello All,

Many thanks for the information being provided here.

Please can someone help with an estimated cost of a four bedroom flat bungalow with just 2 toilets -- need to compare with estimated cost received from an engineer. Below is the cost received from an engineer for foundation

Foundation

Blocks- 1500 - #225,000
Sand- 2 Trips- #56,000
Water- #10,000
Digging- #120,000
Granite- #75,000
43 bags of cement- #120,400

*TOTAL*= #666,490

Pegging 70k
Casting 130k.

Bosses in the house kindly assist to validate


To me as an engineer, there is need to see the floor plan to judge accurately if the quotation is ok or not.. But with my little experience without seeing the floor plan;

The quotation is ok ... the quotation is coming obviously from an experienced brick layer.

Note the following,

1, I dont see German floor being done with above quotation..

2, Two trip of sand (56k) won't be enough to do the concrete foundation blinding and shocking of foundation blocks

3, Cement (43bags) won't be enough judging from the amount of blocks needed.

My advice.. stay on site and see how the material bought for you is been used.... so if there is need to buy more.. you won't feel the brick layer cheat you...

Engr. Gbenga

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by One4me: 5:57am On Nov 08, 2020
KolaShangOne:


This is a discuss boss. Not fighting.

I feel your submission is a bit harsh. And it's been directed to Hajj M.

You have mentioned him in earlier posts because he recommended Dennis and things went south.


Recommendations is based on previous conduct. That's why even if someone comes recommended, you still have to do your due diligence.

Even if things go south, finding a solution / middle ground is the next step, not blaming the person that gave recommendation.

We all know how even technicians/contractors/humans that did good today, can fvck up tomorrow.

I have been on this forum for years and What we don't GIVE CREDIT ENOUGH FOR, IS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAJJ HAS HELPED AND SAVED WITH HIS RECOMMENDATIONS.

Im a builder here, And No, I'm not kissing arse or currying favour from Hajj because He and I haven't talked and jobs for years.


Did anyone here asked you for how you feel?
Just because l mentioned Hajji M in my posts, that makes it harsh?
Did l lie against him that he recommended Deniss3D or is that just a statement of fact?
What is wrong in asking Hajj M to intervene, when the Contractor he recommended and the Client are having a fight? Even those of us that did not recommend, did we not intervene?

Even if you think my message was harsh directed at Hajji M , would it not be better for you to have allowed Hajji M to respond and for you to just ignore the message?
What do people like you gain by trying to bang the head of two people together?
Ask yourself this question: did my post made Hajji M and the One4Me friends or potential enemies?
When people cry more than the bereaved, it is obvious what they are up to.

I wont say anything but you have crucified yourself, with your own hand.
Adult Gossip and Hypocrisy, continue. undecided

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by One4me: 6:07am On Nov 08, 2020
Javaside:
Hello All,

Many thanks for the information being provided here.

Please can someone help with an estimated cost of a four bedroom flat bungalow with just 2 toilets -- need to compare with estimated cost received from an engineer. Below is the cost received from an engineer for foundation

Foundation

Blocks- 1500 - #225,000
Sand- 2 Trips- #56,000
Water- #10,000
Digging- #120,000
Granite- #75,000
43 bags of cement- #120,400

*TOTAL*= #666,490

Pegging 70k
Casting 130k.

Bosses in the house kindly assist to validate

Cost will mostly depend on size of the Foundation and even terrain, to some extent, so you need to provide more information, to get good estimates.

But one thing that stood out for me in that quote, is the #70,000 for Pegging! shocked
That amount vibrate me no be small, except if pegging means another thing apart from Staking-out the boundary lines of the foundation.
Is he buying wood and how much wood sef, does he need to buy for pegging?

#NotABibelli, just my opinion.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Beframia: 6:12am On Nov 08, 2020
I feel the cost is a bit on the high side especially the cost of digging and the quantity of cement required for this stage. Although, your list isn't very detailed and just as Engr Micgray100 earlier mentioned, a floor plan would have aided him and other professionals here in advising you better. However, refer to this thread by Dubemcapital1 for some guidance.

https://www.nairaland.com/6057367/building-2bedroom-semi-detached-2unit

All the best!



Javaside:
Hello All,

Many thanks for the information being provided here.

Please can someone help with an estimated cost of a four bedroom flat bungalow with just 2 toilets -- need to compare with estimated cost received from an engineer. Below is the cost received from an engineer for foundation

Foundation

Blocks- 1500 - #225,000
Sand- 2 Trips- #56,000
Water- #10,000
Digging- #120,000
Granite- #75,000
43 bags of cement- #120,400

*TOTAL*= #666,490

Pegging 70k
Casting 130k.

Bosses in the house kindly assist to validate

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by One4me: 6:18am On Nov 08, 2020
QSFemi:
A research finding shows that engaging a Quantity Surveyor in a construction project leads to a 25% reduction in the cost of construction.

Do not just engage a quantity surveyor to prepare estimated cost of construction (Bill of Quantities or schedule of materials and labour) for you, engage the QS during the construction stage as a client or a contractor.

Here's why;

So many decisions that were made during the estimating stage (arriving at a construction cost) get altered, modified or replaced during the construction stage. This alteration, modification or replacement could either lead to a downward or upward cost. It hardly stays the same.

So, engaging a QS during pre-construction and post-construction helps to fairly assess these changes.

A quantity surveyor is everybody's friend.

Very true, we seem to underestimate the value of QS!
I think l will trust a Quantity Surveyor more, to supervise my building project (as long as l have a competent Builder), than employ an Engineer for Supervision.
Unlike an Engineer, he will monitor the Cost and Material usage, due to his knowledge of material costing and can quickly advise where shortages or excesses might occur and the Builder can double as the Engineer, especially in these days when Architects are also parading as Engineers and Builders.
My opinion, #NotABibelli

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 6:27am On Nov 08, 2020
It usually per sqm they charge. Also ask the installer to explain different methods of constriction to you, I visit a friend last month, I notices there is this awful sound from the tiles while walking on it. I believed its installation fault which might leads to the tiles breaking if Carr is not taking.
beejay1:
Hello all, thanks for the consistency....I want to tile 29sqm floor and 127sqm wall. How much will a tiller charge me for labor? do they charge per sqm? the property is in the south south....thanks

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 6:30am On Nov 08, 2020
I like that bolded assertion in your comment.

Architects have gone beyond their traditional role of building designs and subsequent "supervision of their designs on site" to become builders or engineers by undertaking supervision of the building production process. It's very wrong for an Architect to parade himself or herself as an expert in the construction of buildings rather than his core competence - design of buildings and supervision of his designs on site.

I'm glad we've people like you that knows where each professional belongs.


One4me:


Very true, we seem to underestimate the value of QS!
I think l will trust a Quantity Surveyor more, to supervise my building project (as long as l have a competent Builder), than employ an Engineer for Supervision.
Unlike an Engineer, he will monitor the Cost and Material usage, due to his knowledge of material costing and can quickly advise where shortages or excesses might occur and the Builder can double as the Engineer, especially in these days when Architects [/b]are also parading as Engineers and Builders.
My opinion, [b]#NotABibelli

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by One4me: 6:31am On Nov 08, 2020
EgunMogaji2:


Generally, a ten tire truck carries twenty ton material allegedly.

Until someone comes up with a mobile truck scale then we’re just relying on hope.

One of my favorite suppliers runs a DAF twenty ten wheel truck. When I ordered thirty ton granite from him he said he can only load twenty five ton maximum.

I wish you had more trust in your engineer maybe find a qualified one that you can also trust. We’ve read all sorts of things on here in the past. Allegations of people parking vans by the site to remove materials at night, inflated invoices loaded with kickbacks, collusion with rogue family members, etc

Only God can “safe” us homeowners grin


Haaaa, Baba shocked
Off your Mic Senator, issokay, l say issokay, off your Mic. grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Beframia: 6:36am On Nov 08, 2020
Thank God I missed the #70k pegging part by an oversight, me too for dey vibrate by now... It's too much nah.
I've resorted to buying materials myself in my current small project and that hasn't been going down well with the guy supervising it. I started doing that since I noticed that every block he bought had an extra 20 or 30naira added, every trip of sand/stones had an extra 5-10k. All these extras go into his pocket inspite of the fact that I did not even negotiate his supervisory fee, I always paid him promptly.

One4me:


Cost will mostly depend on size of the Foundation and even terrain, to some extent, so you need to provide more information, to get good estimates.

But one thing that stood out for me in that quote, is the #70,000 for Pegging! shocked
That amount vibrate me no be small, except if pegging means another thing apart from Staking-out the boundary lines of the foundation.
Is he buying wood and how much wood sef, does he need to buy for pegging?

#NotABibelli, just my opinion.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 6:47am On Nov 08, 2020
You are on point sir. Architect, engineer and Qs, they all have their own important role and they have one thing in common...they can both supervise a construction.
One4me:


Very true, we seem to underestimate the value of QS!
I think l will trust a Quantity Surveyor more, to supervise my building project (as long as l have a competent Builder), than employ an Engineer for Supervision.
Unlike an Engineer, he will monitor the Cost and Material usage, due to his knowledge of material costing and can quickly advise where shortages or excesses might occur and the Builder can double as the Engineer, especially in these days when Architects are also parading as Engineers and Builders.
My opinion, #NotABibelli
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 6:49am On Nov 08, 2020
One4me:


Cost will mostly depend on size of the Foundation and even terrain, to some extent, so you need to provide more information, to get good estimates.

But one thing that stood out for me in that quote, is the #70,000 for Pegging! shocked
That amount vibrate me no be small, except if pegging means another thing apart from Staking-out the boundary lines of the foundation.
Is he buying wood and how much wood sef, does he need to buy for pegging?

#NotABibelli, just my opinion.

For my current projects two bed and one bed flats joined together I use exactly two bundles of stakes at N1K each and one bundle of the long piece at N1.5K

Some of these outlandish estimates makes me feel sad for first timers.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:51am On Nov 08, 2020
Javaside:
Hello All,

Many thanks for the information being provided here.

Please can someone help with an estimated cost of a four bedroom flat bungalow with just 2 toilets -- need to compare with estimated cost received from an engineer. Below is the cost received from an engineer for foundation

Foundation

Blocks- 1500 - #225,000 1200. I’m using 1250 for the 2 flat. N150 per block is a good price tho.

Sand- 2 Trips- #56,000 Fair enough. I used 1 trip of 6 tyre tipper per block for Blinding.

Water- #10,000 Ok

Digging- #120,000 Too much. Budget 60k Max. I did less based on the quantity involved.

Granite- #75,000 Is the DPC inclusive?

43 bags of cement- #120,400 Too much for blinding and block setting

Pegging 70k Too much. Budget 20k max.

Casting 130k Is this inclusive of the DPC? If yes, it’s ok. If not, budget 60k

Bosses in the house kindly assist to validate.

I’m giving you the above based on my ongoing project. I’m currently working on 123 blocks of 2 bed semi-detached bungalows with following details:

- 600mm deep foundation
- 150cm thick blinding
- 1250 blocks per unit
- 22 cement for blinding per block
- Blinding is 55k per block
- 1 1/2 trip of water at 5500 per trip (Blinding and Block work)

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 6:52am On Nov 08, 2020
Beframia:

Thank God I missed the #70k pegging part by an oversight, me too for dey vibrate by now... It's too much nah.
I've resorted to buying materials myself in my current small project and that hasn't been going down well with the guy supervising it. I started doing that since I noticed that every block he bought had an extra 20 or 30naira added, every trip of sand/stones had an extra 5-10k. All these extras go into his pocket inspite of the fact that I did not even negotiate his supervisory fee, I always paid him promptly.


Buying materials yourself is the best method. Apart from the cost savings, it allows you to be involved in building your home.

Many won’t like it because of the fraudulent nature of most.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 6:53am On Nov 08, 2020
Q's, architect, builder and engineer are all guilty! Professionals nowadays poke nose to other professional work aside from their own specialization. An engineer will tell you to bring your survey plans to design an architectural drawings for you! It annoying seeing all those thongs! Well, that is what happened in an environment(country) where there is no regulation/limit.
QSFemi:
I like that bolded assertion in your comment.

Architects have gone beyond their traditional role of building designs and subsequent "supervision of their designs on site" to become builders or engineers by undertaking supervision of the building production process. It's very wrong for an Architect to parade himself or herself as an expert in the construction of buildings rather than his core competence - design of buildings and supervision of his designs on site.

I'm glad we've people like you that knows where each professional belongs.


Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 7:03am On Nov 08, 2020
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Johntemmy(m): 7:16am On Nov 08, 2020
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