oyatz:



States in Nigeria are units of Administration and not necessarily ethnic homelands whose boundaries may be difficult to establish.



Geographical landmarks, certain Historical events and sometimes aspirations of the people were used to set boundaries between States.

Examples of what you raised abound all over the country.

Jebba is divided into two, one part in Kwara and the other part in Niger State.

Owena is partly in Osun and partly in Ondo State.

Akokoland is partly in Ondo & partly in Edo State
KareKare peoples are partly in Bauchi & partly in Yobe State.

Some Ekiti Towns are carved into Kwara State (They even have EKiti LGA, Kwara State) while the bulk of Ekiti form their own State in the S/West.

Seerade029:



True.
There is Ekiti kwara in kwara state
And it supposed to be in ekiti state

Moferere:

You see, those Igbos members think emotions win issues.
What they did is an encroachment of Rivers territory and even the educated ones among them refused to acknowledge it.

Moferere:

You see, those Igbos members think emotions win issues.
What they did is an encroachment of Rivers territory and even the educated ones among them refused to acknowledge it.

Rugaria:


But you can see the net effects today already and you are still asking why. Some igbos don't even know the predicament of these igbo communities carved out in this way. The military regimes did this. The federal government took time after the war to redesign an SE that can be easily managed. The main aim was to push igboland far away from the coast and make it a very unhospitable place deprived of any serious economic development. This was why they made sure that the abandoned property saga lingered on for a while to force igbos out of PH by creating issues between the igbos and the minorities there. Then the oil rich nature of some of the communities.

Don't forget that before the creation of bayelsa , the ijaws dominated Rivers politics. Federal forces more or less wanted the oil fields in those boundary communities to be in the hands of the minority groups that fought with them during the war. That's why Egbema was devided into two. Infact, the igboid section of Rivers State produce most oil accredited to Rivers from the inland. These communities are victims of circumstances and when you hear less informed igbos telling you that igboland begins and ends with the SE, it simply speaks to their level of ignorance of latent Nigeria's politics and never a statement of fact.

Christistruth00:



Kanu cast a spell on them but Jesus is on his case. No single IPOB member can think honestly or straight on National issues they prefer lies.

Since when did Idoma of Benue become Igbos? What is the Biafran flag doing there ?

SlayerForever:
The other day I was here on Nairaland I wanted to open a thread about something like this. I forgot.

If Egbema is removed from Rivers and rejoined to Imo and Etche is readded to Imo also, what will be the remaining oil output of Rivers state?


Someone more knowledgeable of the respective oil outputs of communities in Rivers can open a thread on it.

BigSarah:
Dude Igbos lost a war, what ever that happened after the war happened because igbos lost... That’s it igbos lost, forget about the pre-war times, that’s long gone... Forget about it

Seerade029:


You're correct.
And moreso they're the ones that makes those in rivers state not to feel among.

E.g, Most towns in kwara state do forget that they are in North central, they counted themselves as south west.

Most ekiti towns in kwara do think that they're in Ekiti state and not kwara.

Those jebba people in Niger state almost everytime listen to kwara state news, they've forgotten that they're in Niger state.


The above senero is what supposed to play out in Rivers / IMO.
But Igbos are not allowing it

Moferere:


Some part of Ekiti (SW) were carved to Kwara (NC)
Some parts of Ondo were carved to Kogi (NC)
Truth is, it is wrong to go to these states and fight.
They have been delineated and recognised by the constitution and only a constitutional process can change that.
So, going to oyigbo to fight, and rename it obigbo is wrong.
Call a spade, a spade.

FrMbaka:



Who is going there to fight and who are they fighting?

Why was it renamed from Obigbo to Oyigbo?

Who made the 1999 constitution.

In Plateau State, land are being conquered and renamed by migrant Fulani Jihadists, why is the government not doing anything to immigrants renaming peoples land.

You're a hypocrite.

adelola500:


But Wike said it in front of Igbo leaders that igbos are not indigenes to Rivers state. so how come Ohaneze Ndigbo and southeast Governors agreed with wike that igbos are not indigenes to any south-south states that they should respect their host

oyatz:



States in Nigeria are units of Administration and not necessarily ethnic homelands whose boundaries may be difficult to establish.



Geographical landmarks, certain Historical events and sometimes aspirations of the people were used to set boundaries between States.

Examples of what you raised abound all over the country.

Jebba is divided into two, one part in Kwara and the other part in Niger State.

Owena is partly in Osun and partly in Ondo State.

Akokoland is partly in Ondo & partly in Edo State
KareKare peoples are partly in Bauchi & partly in Yobe State.

Some Ekiti Towns are carved into Kwara State (They even have EKiti LGA, Kwara State) while the bulk of Ekiti form their own State in the S/West.

Elvictor:


do you also know Igbo fought Niger Delta to claim their lands? we took it back. ntooorr!! we will soon chase you guys outaa of that land. thieves

Moferere:


Ayere was taken from Ondo
Kabba was taken from Kwara

They are now in Kogi, should we go there and fight? Despite the fact that they speak Yoruba?

O wrong nau

Seerade029:



Lol, if Itshekiri don't speak Yorubas then aniomans ain't Igbos.

Igboid:


When exactly did Ndiigbo fight non existing Niger Delta to take their land?

Elvictor:


before the civil war go and read up

gidgiddy:
I have been wondering about this boundary adjustment that was done in the 1970's that saw parts of Imo state such as Egbema, Etche and Obigbo carved into Rivers state. Today, Egbema people have half their community in Ohaji-Egbema LGA in Imo state, while the other half is in Egbema-Ndoni LGA in Rivers State. What was going here? Why was Obigbo taken out of Imo state, put in Rivers state, then renamed 'Oyigbo'?

Christistruth00:



Itsekiri Language is a Yoruba dialect ask any Isekiri person that is why Ilaje and Ijebu speakers understand Itsekiri easily. In the 1964 Midwest referendum Itsekiri voted to remain in the Western Region.
The Oil in Ondo State is in the Ilaje Areas and Ilaje are undisputed Yoruba


https://www.google.co.uk/url?q=https://www.itsekirinawb.org/itsekiri-language-and-culture&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjuy8X1yPXsAhVLTsAKHYyFAscQFjAUegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw3DUDbUetSrMIM6OkaYs56d

Igboid:


The Itsekiri never considered themselves Yorubas and never in history did Itsekiri fly under Yoruba banner. Even the colonial masters never grouped Itsekiri under Yoruba.

And you are wrong. Itsekiri who were in Warri division of the western region voted in majority against staying in Western region.

See the result below.


The question is not whether Ilajes are Yoruba speaking or not. The question is that those oil producing parts of Ilaje could have been left in Delta and identity crisis instigated there to diminish Ondo crude oil output.
But that wasn't done. Which is by the way the correct call.
But in Igbo areas, the opposite was done. All oil bearing Igbo speaking communities at the border with Rivers state was dubiously ceded to Rivers state and identity crisis instigated and promoted those places.
One excused used by mammar Nasir boundary adjustment commission to cede Obiigbo to Rivers state was that it was using Imo River as the natural boundary between old IMO and Rivers state and not ethnicity, but we know this isn't true, because Omumu LGA which was on SE part of IMO River was also ceded to Rivers state on the pretense that Etche LGA who are their kin and kiths were already in Rivers state.
If the adjustment was done in good faith and not out of evil intent, Omuma would have remained in SE using IMO river as natural boundary between SE and Rivers state. But we know better.

vanunu:


When oil was discovered in Etche, Obigbo and Egbema, the Nigerian government decided to do a boundary adjustment. Eze Obi of Egbema imo resisted them to an extent.

adelola500:


But Wike said it in front of Igbo leaders that igbos are not indigenes to Rivers state. so how come Ohaneze Ndigbo and southeast Governors agreed with wike that igbos are not indigenes to any south-south states that they should respect their host

nku5:
Same reason why yoruba speaking Jebba was carved into Niger State

Rugaria:

Folks should read up on the atrocious activities of the Justice Mamman Nasir boundary adjustment committee. Together with the likes of Obasanjo, these evil people simply sat down and used knives to carve out oil producing areas of these communities from the SE states. The evil perpetuated by the Nigerian state against the SE is mind boggling.

gidgiddy:


Wike is a confused man who has shown that he does not know the history of his own state. Wike does not know that areas such as Egbema LGA, Etche LGA and Oyigbo LGA all used to be in Imo state.

Wike doesn't even know that the Secretary General of Ohanaeze Ndigbo, Barrister Uche Okwukwu, is from Rivers state.

chrisxxx:
In those days people migrate across rivers. A particular tribe

Elvictor:


do you also know Igbo fought Niger Delta to claim their lands? we took it back. ntooorr!! we will soon chase you guys outaa of that land. thieves

adelola500:


So why did Ohaneze Ndigbo and Igbo governors did not correct Wike instead they agreed with him that no Igbo indigenes in Rivers state.