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Stalwert:
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Ignorance is a disease, any Arabian who reads the Arabic on the Naira won't understand what it means because it is a localised form of arabic called ajami. Before the English people came, the Hausas had derived the ajami for writing in Hausa language. Any you can spend 5s,10s and 20s if the ajami script written affects your mental condition.

The south east and efik/ibiobio have nsibi.

Why is it not on the naira notes?

Why is the Fulani writing on the currency?

Why do you have your own separate laws?

Continue exposing your hypocrisy.

kilonshele101:
when will Nigerians understand that even the Arabians can't read Ajami.

just like how the native English speakers can read nor understand Yoruba words like "Labalaba" or Igbo words eg "Biko" despite writing them in Roman script.

Ajami is Hausa in Arabic style , it's the first writing style in Nigeria and it has been in existence and begin used in the northern part of Nigeria before our colonial master introduced us to western education and writing in Roman script. and it has nothing to do with religion. even the Roman script was introduced to us by Christian missionaries and we adopted it to be our official writing style. it doesn't mean anything to feel hostile about.


the moment we stop feeling insecure about everything is the day I'm looking forward to , coz it's the day we start moving forward.

Ajami is an extinct script unused today even in Hausa states. Why then is it still there? What about the one in the Nigerian Army emblem? What is it doing there? You people can only deceive the naive.

Charmingrascal:
Arabic is a language
I am a Christian and I studied Arabic both in my secondary and a little bit of it in my University days.

If not that religion has divided us so much in this Country this call to remove this Arabic from the Naira wouldn't have been necessary.

Liars are very disgusting people. How many people from Nigeria are fluent in Arabic language inside Nigeria? Arabic is not a tribal or even regional language, so why should it be on a supposed secular national currency?

Nigerian government had been infiltrated and dominated by the Islamic northerners

kilonshele101:
Mr man or Mrs woman, I have no explanation to do for you, I'm not the CBN governor that introduced it. I only explained why it was introduced in the first place.

I know no matter of explanation can satisfy your hatred for that tribe and religion. I know doing that gives you joy that's why it's easy for you to sit on a comfortable chair in your house and call Ajami an extinct script despite knowing the rate of illiteracy and attitude towards western education in some core part of the north.

I'm glad you accept that the inscription is Ajami script , but what baffles me is that despite be opportune to understand the value of Western education, which is what makes you to be able to read the English on our currency and your local language written in Roman script, I still don't know why the script that's meant for another class of people gives you so much headache. must everything be about you??


you claim it's Islamic Arabic, but it was proven to be Hausa Ajami script. you're still having problem with it, claiming it's an extinct script. you didn't intellectually apprise an exposition properly and you're still asking me about another military logo inscription that was adopted by lugard . who do you want to stress ??

hold on to whatever conspiracy theory you believe in , I know your type and I'm not ready to be pouring water in a basket.

Of course I'm not one of those you can brainwash with your lies. Ajami remains extinct unless if it's the same as Arabic. What do the muslim kids in the core north learn in their makaratan allo? Arabic or Ajami? Is Ajami used in publishing even one newspaper? How relevant is it today? These are the variables used to check its relevance today.
For the records, I don't hate anyone or ethnic group because they are different from mine. Some of the ethnic groups I so much admire are actually muslims and l always give my reasons for that when ever I'm asked. What I hate is hypocrisy, wickedness and violence which defines your elites. I have no problem with your choice of desiring to remain in the 12th century Islamic era as long as you limit it be among your people. Trying to force such desires on my people is what I hate and will resist with all that I got. Today you're destroying alcoholic drinks in a supposed secular country while still collecting tax from the sales of it in other places. You formed your own security in your region and refuse others to do so. You bring nothing to the table but decide who gets what share. The list is endless. Like I said, that Ajami inscription is extinct and should be expunged from both the currency and the military emblem.

kilonshele101:
I really don't have much explanation for you because I know your type and motive.

it seems you can understand Arabic for you to be insisting that the inscription on our currency is Arabic.

so help us with the translation , if you can't, then use Google translator or any other translator to translate it from Arabic into English and post the screenshot here. (if it's really Arabic as you claim, Google translator shouldn't have any problem translating it from Arabic)

if you can't do all that, then take some time to check the meaning of 'transliteration' in the dictionary. maybe by then you will understand if I say that the inscription on our currency is Hausa transliterated in Arabic style. just like how "ile laa n wo, ka to so'mo loruko. " is Yoruba transliterated in Roman script style, using Roman letters.

I guess you went to school, even if you didn't do history or language, you can always read the meaning of Ajami on Wikipedia, then you will understand how it was very common in Africa before colonization.

I'm a Christian but I don't know what you people gain in promoting religious intolerance.

if truly you are a Christian then you need to pray for wisdom. You are ranting nonsense.
Religion apart, is Arabic the official language of Nigeria?
Why is it also on the army's logo?

tartar9:
Foolish ipobs
Both CBN and the Courts have dismissed the claim

Boko shut up which one is ipobs

kilonshele101:
Why don't you find a learned Muslim or even a northerner and ask questions, engage him/her intellectually and validate your discussion and hypothesis with historical and factual knowledge. It's better than forming an armchair conspiracy theorist and engaging in a worthless insulting contest on Nairaland.


I'm a southern (a Yorubas to be precise) raised by Christian parents, from a family where you can find the people of both faith.

Growing up in a society where religiosity has never been a tool of division, and an academic background in psychology, Seeing people especially both the east and north Using religion as means to attack, abuse and insult each other really disgusts me.

Out of hatred and intolerance for each other, they misperceive and add unnecessary meaning to event as they appear.

What you're doing is no exception, I see no reason why a sane Christian should be feeling insecure about anything that has to do with Muslims and their ways. Likewise Muslim involving themselves in Christian matters.

You're claiming to be learned be forget that some northerner prefer to learn Arabic in their modrasat than going to school. And it seems You still don't know what Ajami means. Ajami is Arabic style and you read Ajami exactly the same way you read Arabic (same rule, same structure) it's just that what you read is Hausa. Every Hausa who can speak Hausa and read Arabic can understand Ajami perfectly and read it even without going to school. But your insensitivity is blinding you to understand their peculiarities. Those that are not opportune to be able to read in Roman style like you are less human and irrelevant right??


A society where they value their religious and culturally morality are destroying alcoholic drink because it's seen as immoral for their people. But people like you are always quick to tell them that Nigeria is a secular state and their actions is affecting the economy. But a denomination of Christian that banned wearing of footwear for their members is not affecting the economy. And a denomination of Christian that sees television as an instrument that can be used by devil in a secular state is good and it's not affecting the electronics industry. And the denomination of Christian that banned the use earring , necklace ,chain , cosmetic and some accessories in a secular state not affecting the economy. My sister wasn't free to choose the type of dress she's to wear on her own wedding day, a lot of my parents plans were cancelled by the church wedding committee, I couldn't invite my own friends who vowed to drink 5 bottles Hennessey to my sister's wedding because the church wedding committee won't allow that in a secular nation where everyone has freedom of choice. But not a single family or friends to my family who is a Muslim complained or felt insecure. But fact checkers like you won't see anything wrong in that. But the Muslims don't have right to set out an organized laws for their members ONLY because Nigeria is a secular state. I guess you don't know the meaning of a secular State.


Because a religion (islam) kicked against all sort of immorality (at least that's what they claim they are doing) in accordance with their religious law but you see them as primitive 12th century people because the 21th century is all about going to churches with indecent dresses, smoking weed and drinking alcoholic inside churches, public celebration of pre martial sex etc. I'm sure the devil (if actually exist) will be laughing at you.


Extremist Muslims harming others in the name of religion is bad and condemnable, but it's acceptable for Christians to abuse Islam, call it a blood sucking cult, founded by a rapist Arabian in collaboration with an evil spirit.

I here you say you hate violence, wickedness and hypocrisy, I think I will put you on my watchlist. We read on Christian thread every Sunday without a single hate comment from Muslims, but on Fridays the total number of hate comments by Christians on Muslim threads is disgraceful. And I have never seen you condemning one. I tasked you to observe closely this coming Friday and Sunday.

Every time I see a thread about a pastor who was caught with an immoral act, the first thing I will check is if any Muslim would blame Christianity. But what you will see is people condemning the the PERSON not the RELIGION. But if it's on the contrary you see how fellow Christians will be attacking Islam as whole, blaming the RELIGION not the PERSON.
I tasked you to be observing henceforth.
If you're hating on a religion for hypocrisy I think you should be hating yours too unless if you're an hypocrite yourself.

And I'm yet to see how they are forcing their religion on us. Unless if you're talking about the activities of boko haram and Fulani herdmen.

Seriously, I appreciate ur effort to say this.
The reason their hate towards those Northerners grows mainly because of their religious difference, u can imagine a society that doesn't have Muslims that are up to 10 will be the one telling u how bad and terrible Muslims are , how ironical. Since I've been living as a Yoruba, I've never for once thought there is really a different between Muslims and Christians, cos we all act the same, Christians come to Muslims home during eid to eat and vice-versa but someone who hasn't probably met up to 50muslims in his whole life will be telling u how terrible they're. I guess, all the Christians in SW should've been dead by now.

If any crime or anything happen or done by Hausa, they would speedily link it to religion, my question is those northerners self doesn't commit half of the crimes they commit and no one has ever linked it to Christianity, the highest rape, murder, kidnapping and robbery in this country are mostly by the southerners, but no one ever said it's how the Christians do..

And notice, all these come mostly from some certain region, later they will be shouting southern Nigeria southern Nigeria, there's no any southern Nigeria anywhere, what we have is Oduduwa/Yoruba republic, Biafra and Niger Delta

Or do u think we'll leave Nigeria and fall into another society where someone will be telling us that we're using their oil to develop our land? No

Perfecttouch:
The CBN said Ajami is not a symbol or mark of
Islam but an inscription to aid non-English
speakers who are literate in and use Ajami for
trade.

And it can't be wrriten in French?
French is like English language..
But instead of using either French or English, they used Arabic
E ti ya werey

Arabic was here hundreds of years before english.

The north was already using a system that was refined based on arabic from govt administration to finance to education.

That was why the colonials rule indirectly in the north and directly in the south.

The north was already civilized compared south.

That is why hausa language grew faster through trade to other african countries.

Because hausa has earlier adopted arabic alphabet for writing since 600 years ago.

Because of the advancement and interaction between hausa and other civilization that is why hausa language is second most advance language in sub saharan africa coming second to Swahili.

U can find books and letter written using ajami as far back as 500 years ago.

Nigeria's first official lingual franca is English and the second is French, so their excuse makes no sense. No one is saying all notes containing Islamic inscription be discarded instantly. Stop including it in new notes and in 5-7 years, it will be gone to where it belongs to naturally but as we can see they are looking silly excuses to leave it there.

Positivepoint:
Arabic was here hundreds of years before english.

The north was already using a system that was refined based on arabic from govt administration to finance to education.

That was why the colonials rule indirectly in the north and directly in the south.

The north was already civilized compared south.

That is why hausa language grew faster through trade to other african countries.

Because hausa has earlier adopted arabic alphabet for writing since 600 years ago.

Because of the advancement and interaction between hausa and other civilization that is why hausa language is second most advance language in sub saharan africa coming second to Swahili.

U can find books and letter written using ajami as far back as 500 years ago.

Is Arabic our official lingual franca? If you say because Arabic was here before English then why not put the other languages that was here before Arabic? Did Arabic colonialist amalgamated southern and northern region ? Don't let hate and religion blind you.

then you can't leave in states like zamfara state whre most sign post are writting with Arabic o....

CodeTemplar:
Is Arabic our official lingual franca? If you say because Arabic was here before English then why not put the other languages that was here before Arabic? Did Arabic colonialist amalgamated southern and northern region ? Don't let hate and religion blind you.

Which civilized language was here before let us start from there. And is english our mother language.

Also the arabic alphabet was used not that what is written is arabic. It's hausa that is written using arabic alphabet.

Odingo1:
Stop lying, what is there is clearly Arabic inscription.

Who will he lie? This is Ajami why the hate?

Odingo1:
Why is it that they did not use Hebrew, why Arabic.

Some people studied Hebrew in school also.

How many Nigerians use Hebrew for communication?

THAT'S WHAT MAKE CBN GIVE MONEY TO MIYETTI ALLAH FULANI HERDSMEN GROUP AND DISCRIMINATE AFENIFERE AND OHANEZE.

THAT'S WHAT MAKE CBN GIVE MONEY TO MIYETTI ALLAH FULANI HERDSMEN GROUP AND DISCRIMINATE AFENIFERE AND OHANEZE. THE SAME WAY YOU OPEN BORDERS FOR DANGOTE AND CLOSE THEM TO OTHERS.

kilonshele101:
when will Nigerians understand that even the Arabians can't read Ajami.

just like how the native English speakers can read nor understand Yoruba words like "Labalaba" or Igbo words eg "Biko" despite writing them in Roman script.

Ajami is Hausa in Arabic style , it's the first writing style in Nigeria and it has been in existence and begin used in the northern part of Nigeria before our colonial master introduced us to western education and writing in Roman script. and it has nothing to do with religion. even the Roman script was introduced to us by Christian missionaries and we adopted it to be our official writing style. it doesn't mean anything to feel hostile about.


the moment we stop feeling insecure about everything is the day I'm looking forward to , coz it's the day we start moving forward.

it was never the first style in Nigeria, even the Northerners had their language and writing styles before the invasion of the Fulanis... each tribes had their writing styles, the yorubas and ibos never used the Fulanis style

Just wanna please the vegetable in Aso Rock

kilonshele101:
Why don't you find a learned Muslim or even a northerner and ask questions, engage him/her intellectually and validate your discussion and hypothesis with historical and factual knowledge. It's better than forming an armchair conspiracy theorist and engaging in a worthless insulting contest on Nairaland.


I'm a southerner (a Yoruba to be precise) raised by Christian parents, from a family where you can find people of both faith

Growing up in a society where religiosity has never been a tool of division, and an academic background in psychology, Seeing people especially both the east and north Using religion as means to attack, abuse and insult each other really disgusts me.

Out of hatred and intolerance for each other, they misperceive and add unnecessary meaning to event as they appear.

What you're doing is no exception, I see no reason why a sane Christian should be feeling insecure about anything that has to do with Muslims and their ways. Likewise Muslim involving themselves in Christian matters.

You're claiming to be learned be you forgot that some northerners prefer to learn Arabic in their modrasat than going to school. And it seems You still don't know what Ajami means. Ajami is Arabic style and you read Ajami exactly the same way you read Arabic (same rule, same structure) it's just that what you read is Hausa. Every Hausa who can speak Hausa and read Arabic can understand Ajami perfectly and read it even without going to school. But your insensitivity is blinding you to understand their peculiarities. Those that are not opportune to be able to read in Roman style like you are less human and irrelevant right??


A society where they value their religious and culturally morality are destroying alcoholic drink because it's seen as immoral for their people. But people like you are always quick to tell them that Nigeria is a secular state and their actions is affecting the economy. But a denomination of Christian that banned wearing of footwear for their members is not affecting the economy. And a denomination of Christian that sees television as an instrument that can be used by devil in a secular state is good and it's not affecting the electronics industry. And the denomination of Christian that banned the use earring , necklace ,chain , cosmetic and some accessories in a secular state not affecting the economy. My sister wasn't free to choose the type of dress she's to wear on her own wedding day, a lot of my parents plans were cancelled by the church wedding committee, I couldn't invite my own friends who vowed to drink 5 bottles Hennessey to my sister's wedding because the church wedding committee won't allow that in a secular nation where everyone has freedom of choice. But not a single family or friends to my family who is a Muslim complained or felt insecure. But fact checkers like you won't see anything wrong in that. But the Muslims don't have right to set out an organized laws for their members ONLY because Nigeria is a secular state. I guess you don't know the meaning of a secular State.


Because a religion (islam) kicked against all sort of immorality (at least that's what they claim they are doing) in accordance with their religious law but you see them as primitive 12th century people because the 21th century is all about going to churches with indecent dresses, smoking weed and drinking alcoholic inside churches, public celebration of pre martial sex etc. I'm sure the devil (if actually exist) will be laughing at you.


Extremist Muslims harming others in the name of religion is bad and condemnable, but it's acceptable for Christians to abuse Islam, call it a blood sucking cult, founded by a rapist Arabian in collaboration with an evil spirit.

I saw you saying you hate violence, wickedness and hypocrisy, I think I will put you on my watchlist. We read on Christian thread every Sunday without a single hate comment from Muslims, but on Fridays the total number of hate comments by Christians on Muslim threads is disgraceful. And I have never seen you condemning one. I tasked you to observe closely this coming Friday and Sunday.

Every time I see a thread about a pastor who was caught with an immoral act, the first thing I will check is if any Muslim would blame Christianity. But what you will see is people condemning the the PERSON not the RELIGION. But if it's on the contrary you see how fellow Christians will be attacking Islam as whole, blaming the RELIGION not the PERSON.
I tasked you to be observing henceforth.
If you're hating on a religion for hypocrisy I think you should be hating yours too unless if you're an hypocrite yourself.

And I'm yet to see how they are forcing their religion on us. Unless if you're talking about the activities of boko haram and Fulani herdmen.

This is the best comment I have read so far on naraland through out the week, I didn't know there are still sensible people who reason like this on this forum

Powersurge:
Putting Arabic in NIgeria's money is a breach of the constitution. If CBN could withdraw paper money from circulation there is no reason she can't withdraw money with Arabic inscription.

Arabic inscription in Naira and Nigeria millitary is a confirmation that NIgeria has adopted Islam as state religion. Which is contrary to the constitution. Anything outside indigenous languages and official language cannot be part of national material.

If you say this means nothing. Then we will start by adding to the NIgeria army's logo, "victory comes from Jehova alone", Victory comes from the god of iron alone" etc.we will do the same to the currencies. Since we have all agreed to be stupid.

In same vein, it's an insult and injustice to register Nigeria in an Islamic organization. These anomalies must be corrected.

You know more than high courts of law huh