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Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by dayokanu(m): 9:57pm On Nov 20, 2011
Global coverage that cant even win a Nobel?

25yrs after Wole Soyinka won his own, Achebe cant even get close. What a shame.

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Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by ezeagu(m): 9:58pm On Nov 20, 2011
Eko Ile:

I know they've been trying to create this thread and finally they did. Silly and  insecure and low self esteem clowns , always starting what they can not finish,





Nuff said,



lol @ more celebrated, How do you get celebrated more that the ultimate celebration which is the Nobel?

Jokers. Wetin Achebe do for Nigeria? The man sit for NY playing oversea demonstration when Soyinka with all his Nobel dey on the ground fighting and risking his life for his country like he's been doing all his life. Achebe don spend a day in jail fighting for his country like Wole soyinka? No of course.


If you don't want to rubbish Achebe, you better keep quiet.




Reeled in like a flapping fish. Any surprises?

dayokanu:

Global coverage that cant even win a Nobel?

25yrs after Wole Soyinka won his own, Achebe cant even get close. What a shame.

What a shame he's on the 100 best selling books. I'm sure he can console himself for not getting that lilly white prize when he looks at his bank.
Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by chino11(m): 10:17pm On Nov 20, 2011
dayokanu:

Global coverage that cant even win a Nobel?

25yrs after Wole Soyinka won his own, Achebe cant even get close. What a shame.



You live so much in mad plain. noble prize nonsense, why did the Forbes rated Achebe the most influential icon out of Africa, even the ordinary Drogba a footballer is ahead of your Soyenka.

Achebe's remains the only African in his own class and league, even Soyenka is not anywhere close to being his match. Today Achebe has affected more lives across the world with his literary works, has your Soyenka come any close.

Achebe's Things Fall Apart, has been translated into over 150 languages of the world because of its relevance and importance to the academic world, has any of Soyenka's book crossed River Niger into Onitsha or Nigeria border not to talk of the world stage.
Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by dayokanu(m): 10:28pm On Nov 20, 2011
But Achebe cant even win a Nobel?

I am sure Wale Adenuga who writes Ikebe Super and Lolly would win Nobel before Archebe

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Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by aljharem3: 10:29pm On Nov 20, 2011
SILLY THREAD

Onlytruth:

Stoopid thread.
I love and revere BOTH men equally. Both are RARE Africans. They are two sides of the same coin.
Uncommon geniuses. cool

I concur. don't forget Gen Vatsa
Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by Nobody: 10:33pm On Nov 20, 2011
dayokanu:

But Achebe cant even win a Nobel?

I am sure Wale Adenuga who writes Ikebe Super and Lolly would win Nobel before Archebe


LOL grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by AndreUweh(m): 10:48pm On Nov 20, 2011
dayokanu:

But Achebe cant even win a Nobel?

I am sure Wale Adenuga who writes Ikebe Super and Lolly would win Nobel before Achebe
please maintain Achebe at all time.
Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by EkoIle1: 11:02pm On Nov 20, 2011
ezeagu:

Reeled in like a flapping fish. Any surprises?

What a shame he's on the 100 best selling books. I'm sure he can console himself for not getting that lilly white prize when he looks at his bank.

Olodo. STFU.

Thel altimate celebration , recognition and prestige for an actor is to be awarded an oscar, a musician a grammy, a lit writer a Nobel, not  sales or money.

Decades later, achebe is yet  to be recognized and celebrated with the highest lit honor in the world, no lit honor or prestige.

Achebe might want to go take lesson from Soyinka.

These ibo people sabi make pesin laugh, momey money is everything, no wonder you people kill and kidnnap yourselves for money,

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Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by AndreUweh(m): 11:22pm On Nov 20, 2011
^^^Baba-tribalism, this thread belongs to the education section, isn't it?.
Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by EkoIle1: 11:41pm On Nov 20, 2011
Andre Uweh:

^^^Baba-tribalism, this thread belongs to the education section, isn't it?.

Ode. Na ya brother wey start the re tarded thread be the tribalist?

Shebi we dey warn you clowns to stop starting these dumb threads.

Since you no gree listen, we'll finish it for you.

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Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by AndreUweh(m): 11:47pm On Nov 20, 2011
Eko Ile:

Ode. Na ya brother wey start the re tarded thread be the tribalist?

Shebi we dey warn you clowns to stop starting these dumb threads.

Since you no gree listen, we'll finish it for you.
Ikwikwi apiri api, you didn't answer my question.
Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by EkoIle1: 12:03am On Nov 21, 2011
Andre Uweh:

Ikwikwi apiri api, you didn't answer my question.

I be mod? Stop asking me dumb questions. Your dumb kinfolk the OP didn't know his way to that forum before starting the silly thread.


Bugg off please.

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Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by ezeagu(m): 12:10am On Nov 21, 2011
Eko Ile:

Olodo. STFU.

Thel altimate celebration , recognition and prestige for an actor is to be awarded an oscar, a musician a grammy, a lit writer a Nobel, not  sales or money.

Decades later, achebe is yet  to be recognized and celebrated with the highest lit honor in the world, no lit honor or prestige.

Achebe might want to go take lesson from Soyinka.

These ibo people sabi make pesin laugh, momey money is everything, no wonder you people kill and kidnnap yourselves for money,




Ah, here he comes, nzogbu, nzogbu. Empty drum.

Ikenga awards > Scandi-polito-aristo awards, okay?

Yes, money is everything, and if it wasn't you wouldn't be nairalands deeply fried political job-mens hype man. No one gives a shit about what white people gave a black man in some white country under white mans rules, just like no one gives a shit what you can do with western strength under western orders, get it? Mazi Chinua Achebe is getting his top 100 books on, and you're telling me what they're saying is Scandinavia. He who says he doesn't like money, ya ke ya.
Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by ezeagu(m): 12:11am On Nov 21, 2011
Eko Ile:

Since you no gree listen, we'll finish it for you.

The only thing you're finishing is some politicians boots.
Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by EkoIle1: 12:22am On Nov 21, 2011
ezeagu:

Ah, here he comes, nzogbu, nzogbu. Empty drum.

Ikenga awards > Scandi-polito-aristo awards, okay?

Yes, money is everything, and if it wasn't you wouldn't be nairalands deeply fried political job-mens hype man. No one gives a shit about what white people gave a black man in some white country under white mans rules, just like no one gives a poo what you can do with western strength under western orders, get it? Mazi Chinua Achebe is getting his top 100 books on, and you're telling me what they're saying is Scandinavia. He who says he doesn't like money, ya ke ya.

Try borrow some brain and get back at me, may be I'll give you a minute.
Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by Areosapien(f): 12:26am On Nov 21, 2011
Dude, listen to yourself !!! Has
pathetic bigotry and animalistic
feudalism turned you to this?
How is Achebe more
representative ( ahead of the
likes of Martin Luther King,
Mandela, Biko ,Nkrumah,
Obama, Marcus Garvey, Bob
Marley, Haile Selassie,
Mohammed Alli, Michael
Jackson, Jesse Owen- the man
who embarrased Hitler- and
many others) as the "only
positive symbol of the black
race"? You are at the top level
of ethnic bigotry i.e the level
where folks lie to themselves and
use nonsensical logic and fantasy
to justify innate inferiority
complex and ethnically
motivated hatred of others.
Achebe and Soyinka are only
literary giants. Many black folks ,
with global influence, will be
viewed as far more "positive
symbols" ahead of those two.
I bow for the type of ethnic
bigotry jam inferiority complex
that would make the black race ,
and all its noble folks through
history, inferior in comparison to
a single Nigerian writer for you.
As a Yoruba man, Soyinka is not
even in the list of the 20 black
folks I admire most let alone
view him as the "only positive
symbol of black race" !!! What a
ridiculous statement. Shame on
you !!!!


You are actually wasting your time with that damn nutcase? You need to see the amount of bile and raging fiery hate that moroonic imbeciile harbors for EVEN IGBOS of Imo and Abia, to really understand the amount of pointless blind stupiiidity that has engulfed his wretched mind. His case is far beyond mere cyber-tribalism-for-laughs. His is REAL psychotic bitterness!  

Oh, and before I forget, his other numerous screennames include Ohaneze1 and Igbo Amaka, so watch out for that priiick whenever he tries to masquerade himself in different scrotal sacks.

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Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by Areosapien(f): 12:34am On Nov 21, 2011
And here's a thread where he got properly owned! grin
nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-336779.352.html

LOL! We really destroyed him there when he tried to look down on Abians because of their current demented leader, forgetting no condition is permanent. The loser wanted to claim some fake superiority ish, only to end up digging himself into a shyythole grin
Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by BCuZiMBlaCk(m): 10:04am On Nov 21, 2011
Lolz
Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by Okijajuju1(m): 10:08am On Nov 21, 2011
No ofe Mmanu person can be better than an Igbo man.

Moreover, Wole Soyinka is also a cultist.

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Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by Nobody: 10:09am On Nov 21, 2011
*Smh* @ thread.
Both men in addition to Fela Anikulapo-Kuti, rank on my list of top three Nigerians.
@Ileke, Soyinka's poems and Achebe's books are boring??!!
Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by Okijajuju1(m): 10:24am On Nov 21, 2011
moroh:

*Smh* @ thread.
Both men in addition to Fela Anikulapo-Kuti, rank on my list of top three Nigerians.
@Ileke, Soyinka's poems and Achebe's books are boring??!!

Please dont call Chinua Achebes name in the same sentence with a cultist and an Egbo smoker.

angry
Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by chino11(m): 10:29am On Nov 21, 2011
@Areosapien, whenever your ready I will make an opening to do your Industry Training in my office. Your problem is idleness. How can you call up innocent members of NL and say that their IDs belongs to me. Whenever you are ready for help I will give you personally my contacts @ Udoka Estates, Awka.
Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by Basics007: 10:37am On Nov 21, 2011
What exactly is the purpose of this thread? It will just degenerate into another tribal bitchfest. Let's just celebrate them pls
Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by chino11(m): 10:38am On Nov 21, 2011
@Areosapien, Your problem is idleness, whenever your ready I will make an opening for you to do your Industry Training in my office. How can you call up innocent members of NL and say that their IDs belongs to me. Whenever you are ready for help I will give you personally my contacts @ Udoka Estates, Awka. I assure you of good remuneration for you recover from your broken life.
Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by Afam4eva(m): 10:45am On Nov 21, 2011
I thought this topic or something similar has been trashed out before on this forum. You don't need a soothsayer to tell you before you know that Chinua Achebe is the most respected Nigerian throught the world. That does not mean one is better than the other because it's relative. I wonder if we would have had this comparison had Achebe and Soyinka been from the same ethnicity.
Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by oddy4real(m): 10:57am On Nov 21, 2011
I am Yoruba but sentiments apart, Achebe is the best literary giant to ever come out of Africa. The theme in Achebe's best novel 'things fall apart' is Anti-white and you don't expect those same set of peeps to give a nobel prize.
Achebe's book clocked 50 years and it was celebrated by a major Universities in the world including Harvard. At Oxford University, it was revealed that things fall apart is the 5th most popular book in that school.
Res ipsa loquitor
Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by UyiIredia(m): 11:33am On Nov 21, 2011
they are both okay but I have a bias for Soyinka. He's the one with the Nobel prize.

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Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by swintiney: 11:38am On Nov 21, 2011
I see 90% of Nigeria's problem reflecting here, we abandon the critical issues for irrelevant things.
We don't have to always compare them in order to prove their worth! We can learn from their lives and become
better first as an individual, then as a nation!

These are the two most excellent Nigerians of all times with their various aspects of global influence.
I am proud to be a Nigerian because of them.


To the initiator of this topic, would you say you did not know you were about causing something stupid
knowing that Nigerians are likely to tilt towards tribalism? What do you expect, that soonest we will start bad
mouthing each other with the Ibos calling the Yorubas names and vice versa.

I have  carefully X-rayed the duo, they had same educational foundation (of those old good days when
our education was well valued over those of the UK & US) from the same university around the same period,
what this should remind any agent of change is that we need an educational revolution back to the prestige of
those good old days.

How many Nigerians can speak good english like the duo today? Do we say minority or majority?
How many Nigerians have their level of integrity?
What value will comparing them add to our present situaton?
How do we tackle corruption without being selfish or tribal?
How do we salvage this country from this great political and economic tribulation melted on us by our politicians?
Do you have power to run your business?
Is your certificate fully accepted even in your country?
Does your vote count?
Have you actually had a balanced meal this morning?
Can your parents enjoy their old age without your input?
How many bills passed by the senate touched your life since 1999?
What percentage of Nigeria's budget touched your life since 1999?
Can you prevent a terrorist plane from crashing into your country's defence H/Q or Aso rock
like the Americans did for Pentagon?
How many Nigerians are poets?
How many Nigerians are even writers?
Who are you today and what are you hoping to become tommorrow?

Instead of allowing these rare gems (Soyinka & Achebe) divide us, why not use them as yardstick to measure
our national deviation.

I expect us to weep for our country and refuse evil leaders whos worth could only be reconciled
to corruption. They pretend loving Nigeria and therefore would die for political offices whereas in real terms
they are after money and political influence.

I see Nairaland as a forum of national unity and will be proud of a new Nigeria initiating its course
through this forum. Let's be Nigerians for the sake of Nigeria. Let's not propagate the silent fact; that
the only reason why Nigeria has not splitted is not that we love each other as ethnic nationalities but that
corruption has formed a vehicle for our leaders to understand themselves and bind us together through it.

I love Nigeria, i love Nairaland!

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Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by Areosapien(f): 11:44am On Nov 21, 2011
chino11:

@Areosapien, Your problem is idleness, whenever your ready I will make an opening for you to do your Industry Training in my office. How can you call up innocent members of NL and say that their IDs belongs to me. Whenever you are ready for help I will give you personally my contacts @ Udoka Estates, Awka. I assure you of good remuneration for you recover from your broken life.


LMAO! Your 'office'? Yeah, by 'office', I'm sure you're refering to your mom's cold, murky basement, where you sit your bony asss in front of Nairaland to strike the keyboard with your leprous fingers.
I bet you didn't see it coming that I'd expose you and your shameless IDs, you hopeless idle wretch.
And how can you be lying about having a job at Udoka when you can't even pass WAEC? Who do you think you're fooling?

So I'll give you one last warning, my hopelessly dull 'tribesman' - If you don't want your arse getting exposed on the internet again, then you best learn how to clean up on your act.

Smell you later, alligator.
Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by IykeD(m): 11:51am On Nov 21, 2011
Of course it is Achebe, he is known all over the globe.
Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by demoore1(m): 12:06pm On Nov 21, 2011
[/@Ileke

Always assumed you were, anyway there must be a reason for you to think the book is boring, maybe you read it at a time you were not ready for such a book or maybe you are more into mills and boons than literary work   .


Do not easily assume that I'm the only one who feels that the book was boring. So I'm guessing you'd have to make the same assumption for everyone?
Not a book I'd pick up, somebody wanted to be nice to me by giving me such a boring book]

You may need your head examine. It is either you are nut or one of  bloody, ethnic biased yoruba foolish folk. an international best seller book with 150 languages of translation being boring to you. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, 
Re: Between Chinua Achebe And Wole Soyinka, Who Has More Global Coverage ? by Diligence: 12:14pm On Nov 21, 2011
who is soyinka? an ex convict? where are his children, or is it the nobel whateva that was given to the wrong candidate - the world knows that soyinka getting that prize is nothing but robbing peter to pay paul.

pls stop insultg authorities, as far as literary world is concerned, soyinka is a nobody; achebe has it all!

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