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Juliusmalema:
At one they done have. At one time Oyo you used as example don't have kings until they organised themselves to units.

But orizu explanation was clear, the kingship was in-born and have been there right from dawn of time before the white joined.

Go and read the history and you will see the kingship have been there all round

I am glad that you agree that at one time they didn't have Kings.

Okoroawusa:
I am glad that you agree that at one time they didn't have Kings.

I didn't agree. I used Oyo to reply you back.

Since your justification was Oyo, I gave you , your own limited knowledge in a limited way..

There have been king (obi) from ages

Juliusmalema:
Well, I have made it clear that I will never answer that question here..

Ya diwa..

Don't get me wrong. I am not castigating you or doubting wether you are igbo.
I'm just saying that every igbo town has its history and peculiarities. Perhaps you don't know that of Nnewi very well.

Okoroawusa:
Don't get me wrong. I am not castigating you or doubting wether you are igbo.
I'm just saying that every igbo town has its history and peculiarities. Perhaps you don't know that of Nnewi very well.

Well the answers I gave you are right.

The kingship have been there for ages.

The king's daughter married and Osu.


And he stated clearly that Igbo towns have kings but not all.

So Igbo nwere Eze.

Juliusmalema:
Well the answer I gave you is right.

The kingship have been there for ages.

The king's daughter married and Osu.


And he stated clearly that Igbo towns have kings but not all.

So Igbo needed Eze.

Nna k'anyi rapu okwua. Okwu aburo nri.

igwe how can you people still be osu when colonial masters left since 60years past

FuckThaMod:
Tampering with a tradition that has been there for centuries is a wrong move!

I suppose you're also not happy that human sacrifices and twin-killings were stopped too.

Bkayyy:
This is from Wikipedia. Nevertheless NRI never crowned Nnewi. Nnewi was actually the first Igbo clan to be lead by an obi. Nri was just the spiritual capital, nothing more

Nri agents from Oraeri were involved in title-taking in Nnewi in the old days. There's no need to deny this.

Juliusmalema:
Originally when the Igbos or Ibos settled in the present day Eastern Nigeria, they arrived with three leaders, two were spiritual leaders and the youngest of the three a hereditary King known as Obi a King by birthright. The first was the Eze Nri of Awka a Priest King, the second the Eze Aro of Arochukwu a King and the third the Obi of Nnewi a political and war ruler. The Obi of Onitsha was well qualified to become an Obi being disputably the first among the two sons of....


The Aros know this history (Nnewi being a relation and a leader among the Igbos) and this is part of the reason why there are no Aro settlements in Nnewi.

This is how you know people that don't have a grasp on what they're talking about. They copy and paste from Wikipedia. Which one is Eze Nri of Awka?

RedboneSmith:
This is how you know people that don't have a grasp on what they're talking about. They copy and paste from Wikipedia. Which one is Eze Nri of Awka?

Please give us the real account?

RedboneSmith:
Nri agents from Oraeri were involved in title-taking in Nnewi in the old days. There's no need to deny this.

fairy tales with no proof.

Ctorch:
Nnewi traditional Stool is Hereditary and not by Election –Igwe Nnewi

I abolished Osu caste system so their pretty women would marry – Igwe Nnewi



https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/i-abolished-osu-caste-system-so-their-pretty-women-would-marry-igwe-nnewi/%3famp=1

Photo of Obi of Otolo and Igwe of Nnewi in Anambra State

"...All I did as a youth was to take care of myself, cook for myself and read.
...I had no business with women.
...Unfortunately, this generation is funny.
...Today’s men are milked dry by women.
...When you give them money, your energy and time, you are wasting and killing yourself gradually."

Statements I picked from the Igwe's interview.
Strong. Very strong.

RedboneSmith:
Nri agents from Oraeri were involved in title-taking in Nnewi in the old days. There's no need to deny this.

I don't think so. Anaedo was fully independent. Mr man, remember Nri never conquered anybody and Igbo clans were autonomous.
The only clan that was crowned by Nri was Onitsha. No other person

RedboneSmith:
This is how you know people that don't have a grasp on what they're talking about. They copy and paste from Wikipedia. Which one is Eze Nri of Awka?

LOL, Awka was not even part of Nri and they have their own monarch known as Eze Ụzụ

Bkayyy:
I don't think so. Anaedo was fully independent. Mr man, remember Nri never conquered anybody and Igbo clans were autonomous.
The only clan that was crowned by Nri was Onitsha. No other person

You people still do not understand Nri hegemony and how it functioned.

No one is saying that Anaedo wasn't fully independent. All the towns in which the Nri operated were fully independent. Nri was not an empire.

Nnewi came within the field of operation of Nri agents from Nri. Ask the elders or read the history of Nnewi by John Alutu.

Bkayyy:
I've addressed the case of ịkpụ alụ already. Akanri were sent for those processes but as for coronation, nobody coronated Igwe Nnewi. Infact the leader of Nnewi has always been the Obi of Otolo it was even of recent days that he started going by the title Igwe.
Nri was just the spiritual capital nothing more.

NRI also no longer crowns any kings, NRI used to crown every king in Igboland and Igodomigodo and Igala.

All these changed around 1910 or so, when the. British forces Eze NRI Obalike to sever the cultural links between NRI and the Igbos.
Subsequent warrant chiefs were forced to renounce Eze NRI in their oaths of office before the British recognized them.
It is a long story.

Anyway the crowning of kings was a spiritual exercise, which was why it was totally within the sphere of NRI duties

OfoIgbo:
NRI also no longer crowns any kings, NRI used to crown every king in Igboland and Igodomigodo and Igala.

All these changed around 1910 or so, when the. British forces Eze NRI Obalike to sever the cultural links between NRI and the Igbos.
Subsequent warrant chiefs were forced to renounce Eze NRI in their oaths of office before the British recognized them.
It is a long story.

Anyway the crowning of kings was a spiritual exercise, which was why it was totally within the sphere of NRI duties

LOL at "every king in Igbo land" like there were more than two established Kingdoms in northern Igboland. Nri only crowns herself and Onitsha. The rest are established Republics and many headed by Obi and Okpala

Bkayyy:
LOL at "every king in Igbo land" like there were more than two established Kingdoms in northern Igboland. Nri only crowns herself and Onitsha. The rest are established Republics and many headed by Obi and Okpala

According to the Nris, there were only 66 Igbo kingdoms before the coming of the Europeans.

Ogwashiuku, Agbor, Onitsha, Uruala, Nnewi, Oraeri, NRI e.t.c

Most towns were governed by the Nze na Ozo society or council of elders

OfoIgbo:
According to the Nris, there were only 66 Igbo kingdoms before the coming of the Europeans.

Ogwashiuku, Agbor, Onitsha, Uruala, Nnewi, Oraeri, NRI e.t.c

Most towns were governed by the Nze na Ozo society or council of elders

That is where you get it wrong, apart Agbor, Onitsha, Ogwashi ukwu and ụmụ eri the rest are Republics. Yes they have Nze na Ọzọ but you know that a community has lots of those and in some, one represents a sub clan in the community and then goes with the title Obi.
As for the Nnewi issue, you have a good point because I believe that their modern history of severing many links including that of the origin of Uruagu Nnewi was based on political importance. After all the anaedo clan is made up of Nnewi, ịchị and Oraifite signing the Ikenga, obi and ifite/ihite which is a sign of Nri and originality of a true Igbo clan

OfoIgbo:
Confirms my point. You are not Igbo.

NKWO Nnewi, how do you think it came about? Clue: Umu-Nri own all the market day shrines

No disrespect but you make some wide claims that arent substantiated. You boast and claim all sort of things you cant defend. And, yes the Okodu clan has Nri migrants but I will never talk as careless as you do. You are also very disrespectful to your brethren. Tone it down a bit

OfoIgbo:
NRI also no longer crowns any kings, NRI used to crown every king in Igboland and Igodomigodo and Igala.

All these changed around 1910 or so, when the. British forces Eze NRI Obalike to sever the cultural links between NRI and the Igbos.
Subsequent warrant chiefs were forced to renounce Eze NRI in their oaths of office before the British recognized them.
It is a long story.

Anyway the crowning of kings was a spiritual exercise, which was why it was totally within the sphere of NRI duties

Nnaa, take it easy , you are too aggressive and boastful. Yes, Nri played a major role in shaping Igbo culture but lets slow down so that people can accord us the respect we deserve.


Also , there is nothing like Nri and Igbo! Many communities paid homage to Eze Nri as a spiritual head who administer rituals. Nri , which I am of the lineage are bonafide Igbo.

Bkayyy:
That is where you get it wrong, apart Agbor, Onitsha, Ogwashi ukwu and ụmụ eri the rest are Republics. Yes they have Nze na Ọzọ but you know that a community has lots of those and in some, one represents a sub clan in the community and then goes with the title Obi.
As for the Nnewi issue, you have a good point because I believe that their modern history of severing many links including that of the origin of Uruagu Nnewi was based on political importance. After all the anaedo clan is made up of Nnewi, ịchị and Oraifite signing the Ikenga, obi and ifite/ihite which is a sign of Nri and originality of a true Igbo clan

So you believe you know about monarchies in Igboland, better than those that instituted and crowned those monarchs in ancient times?
What is your source of information on Igbo monarchy?
Don't you think the best source of information on Igbo monarchy is NRI? The same NRI that crowned well known non-Igbo monarchs that the whole world marvels at?

I am here, telling you that there were 66 monarchies in Igboland before the coming of the white people, according to the Nris, and you are here quoting an unknown source. There were 100s, if not more than a 1,000 of Igbo towns in the past, so 66 monarchies is a small fraction.

IDENNAA:
Nnaa, take it easy , you are too aggressive and boastful. Yes, Nri played a major role in shaping Igbo culture but lets slow down so that people can accord us the respect we deserve.


Also , there is nothing like Nri and Igbo! Many communities paid homage to Eze Nri as a spiritual head who administer rituals. Nri , which I am of the lineage are bonafide Igbo.

I fail to see the aggression in the message you were referring to. I was dishing out pure unadulterated information.

From time to time, I can get spirited especially when I notice someone getting lackadaisical about his or her ancestry, or disparaging Nri-Igbo contributions to Igbo, Benin and Igala cultural practices.
Alarm bells start going off in my mind, reminiscent of alarm bells that go off in Igbo people, when Ikwerres deny their Igboness.

It doesn't make sense when an Igbo person is annoyed with the Ikwerres for denying their Igboness, while at the same time, the same Igbo person is denying his or her NRI cultural links.

OfoIgbo:
I fail to see the aggression in the message you were referring to. I was dishing out pure unadulterated information.

From time to time, I can get spirited especially when I notice someone getting lackadaisical about his or her ancestry, or disparaging Nri-Igbo contributions to Igbo, Benin and Igala cultural practices.
Alarm bells start going off in my mind, reminiscent of alarm bells that go off in Igbo people, when Ikwerres deny their Igboness.

It doesn't make sense when an Igbo person is annoyed with the Ikwerres for denying their Igboness, while at the same time, the same Igbo person is denying his or her NRI cultural links.

I get it and often times I would correct people but be classy about it, so , that people can respect Nri-Igbo. You are not the only one that love Nri , the descendant of this civilization are littered all over eastern or western flank. But , now , you are sounding like you have some inferior mindset due to your abrasive attitude.

IDENNAA:
I get it and often times I would correct people but be classy about it, so , that people can respect Nri-Igbo. You are not the only one that love Nri , the descendant of this civilization are littered all over eastern or western flank. But , now , you are sounding like you have some inferior mindset due to your abrasive attitude.

Inferior mindset as in what?

Anybody with genuine lack of knowledge on NRI matters, I supply humbly.

Anybody that wishes to be condescending or insulting, gets insulted, and that is the way it's gonna be.

I probably know more about the Nris than anyone else in this forum, so there is the likelihood that people may see the new information I reveal from time to time, as boastful, and possibly made up.

It is in fact because of that same reason that I have chosen not to reveal all, that I know about NRI here. There are a number of things that I know that will even baffle Umu-Nri people in this forum, so there is no room for inferiority mindset with me.
A few years and months ago, Benin people in this forum had a freehand in twisting history and claiming how they civilized the Igbos. I don't remember reading you or the other Umu-Nri forumites, putting up an appreciable challenge, to correct the falsified history. To me that is inferiority mindset.
I was the person that helped provide evidence here of Igbo cultural independence, and in fact Benin cultural reliance on Nri-Igbo people. Some other Igbo battlers helped in that fight.

Don't you know that whenever Igbos are attacked culturally, it is the duty of the Nris to lead in that fight? Look at the identity crisis crippling the Ikwerres and Ogbas. Do you know that neither IPOB nor Ohanaeze has what it takes to reverse that. What does Nnia Nwodo or Nnamdi Kanu know about foundation of Igbo towns and cultural practices.
Do you know that the only clan that can reverse the cultural rot in Rivers state is the NRI clan. That is the only clan that can effectively shrink the proverbial Benin cultural d!ck and history twisting that has gone unchallenged in Rivers. But I am not allowed to reveal this because it will start seeming as though I am boasting.

Igbos are their own worst enemies at times. Today the Edo state government properly funds the Oba of Benin palace. Ooni of Ife is properly funded. But the Eze NRI palace is not funded at all by the Anambra state government. The Eze just received the same stipends as any warrant chief.
What this means is that the Oba of Benin can set up efforts to twist history in Igbo speaking areas, and NRI doesn't have the resources to protect Igbo cultural frontiers. That is what we now see, happening in Rivers state. Another long story I prefer to avoid at this juncture

Bro whypo how u doing. Please I asked a question in that beer palor thread.

How can I collect money from a CL

SALTandFIRE:
Bro whypo how u doing. Please I asked a question in that beer palor thread.

How can I collect money from a CL

Dm me...make FMT no cast..

Bkayyy:
But still the influence of Nri cant be neglected. Akanri are being sent all the way to these areas those days to cleanse the land if abomination was commited especially cases of suicide and the ọzọ system is still a proof that all these dynasties were linked. It's still a pain that there history were written in what contemporary humans can't read.
In truth Nri is to Ndigbo what Mecca is for Muslims

Please remove the Igbo cultural areas know today as Abia State and Ebonyi State from that your elusive statement of Nri the Mecca of Ndi Igbo, do so until you have a solid evidence to backup your claims.

Till then. I can conviniently convince you that wicked people don't die before their time. They live long to perpetuate their wickedness. Many examples abound in the scriptures and in this contemporary life.

Some die young, for example armed robbers, bank robbers etc but the con men among them might live old but they will also die a gruesome death. Who wants or plans to die a gruesome death?.