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Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by xperiencelove(m): 10:52pm On Nov 15, 2020
My friend Honda Accord 08 pulled both front legs in Akobo Ibadan.
He was once a member of "buy original OEM part" crew that you won't have pulling legs. I do ask him if it is only Honda that has fake products in Nigeria markets.
A noisy shaft of Toyota Camry legs can last 6months or more. A bend absorber, tie rod and/or leakages of Toyota can last over a year till you have cash or time to fix it. Though Honda sleaky body styling and cool interior is superb.
Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by Aaaaarghmed(m): 5:41am On Nov 16, 2020
xperiencelove:
My friend Honda Accord 08 pulled both front legs in Akobo Ibadan.
He was once a member of "buy original OEM part" crew that you won't have pulling legs. I do ask him if it is only Honda that has fake products in Nigeria markets.
A noisy shaft of Toyota Camry legs can last 6months or more. A bend absorber, tie rod and/or leakages of Toyota can last over a year till you have cash or time to fix it. Though Honda sleaky body styling and cool interior is superb.
that 08 accord doesn't pull easily and for your friend own to pull ,something is wrong somewhere.leg pull is more common with babyboy and EOD,its not too common with DC and evil spirit.

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Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by Kelvin30286063(m): 6:31am On Nov 16, 2020
Aaaaarghmed:
that 08 accord doesn't pull easily and for your friend own to pull ,something is wrong somewhere.leg pull is more common with babyboy and EOD,its not too common with DC and evil spirit.
I was going to say that but I think he cooked up the story just to attract traffic to his blog

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Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by Jahzmin007: 4:51pm On Nov 16, 2020
Kelvin30286063:

I was going to say that but I think he cooked up the story just to attract traffic to his blog
The story is not cooked. I have a mechanic brother. 08 Accord do pull out legs very well. 09 upward seems better. Go to any Honda mechanic workshop to confirm it yourself.
Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by Eldemmi(m): 5:29pm On Nov 21, 2020
Jahzmin007:

The story is not cooked. I have a mechanic brother. 08 Accord do pull out legs very well. 09 upward seems better. Go to any Honda mechanic workshop to confirm it yourself.

your story is likely to be mixed or cooked up...
of you don't know that 08 and 09 use the same things infact they the same.

can you describe how ur friend car look like , pardon me for this.
Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by mayegun2016(m): 3:30pm On Jul 09, 2021
adanny01:


Infringement!!!

Can you proof the hogwash statement of yours?

Just buy OEM ball joint (new or toks) and forget about it.

Buy the ball joint that cost 1.5-5k, expect a pull out from the very day you put that ball joint.

The 2008 up accord has exactly the same set up with the 2006 down accord. No change from Honda. The ball joint is just bigger in size to accommodate for the heavier car. The 2003 to 2007 ball joint is also bigger than the 2002 down. This is also due to more weight on newer models.

Please where can I get original ball joint for Honda Discussion Continues? OEM new or Toks.
Also, what's the price like?
Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by Kokomo: 6:05pm On Jul 09, 2021
mayegun2016:


Please where can I get original ball joint for Honda Discussion Continues? OEM new or Toks.
Also, what's the price like?

cc luvinhubby
Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by Kemetals: 6:11pm On Jul 09, 2021
I got similar problem while using EOD 2003 model. Its frustruating. I have my peace of mind since i changed to Mercedes.
Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by okoroemeka(m): 2:28am On Jul 10, 2021
mayegun2016:


Please where can I get original ball joint for Honda Discussion Continues? OEM new or Toks.
Also, what's the price like?
i use 2007 Honda Dc now but when I was driving a babyboy the problem was so bad that I learnt how to work the bow joint myself and have spare parts and spanner in the car,but that problem was eventually solved in onitsha when they changed the Honda bowjoint to a Renault bow joint I drove the car for a year+ without any further incident before selling it off,that's why you are still seeing Honda cars on the road without swapping its weak bow joint with a stronger Renault bow joint driving a Honda in Nigeria bad roads will be a nightmare.

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Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by mejai(m): 6:20am On Jul 10, 2021
okoroemeka:
i use 2007 Honda Dc now but when I was driving a babyboy the problem was so bad that I learnt how to work the bow joint myself and have spare parts and spanner in the car,but that problem was eventually solved in onitsha when they changed the Honda bowjoint to a Renault bow joint I drove the car for a year+ without any further incident before selling it off,that's why you are still seeing Honda cars on the road without swapping its weak bow joint with a stronger Renault bow joint driving a Honda in Nigeria bad roads will be a nightmare.
so now, did u perform such ritual on ur DC?
Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by Maxijoe(m): 1:38pm On Jul 10, 2021
Richdad50:
shocked

All these long talk for an inferior car brand. It is better to own a 1999 Passat than a 2007 Honda Accord ( End of Discussion or continue)

Richdad

See stupid talk ooo, am very sure you own one of these low life toyotas. Shio!
Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by Maxijoe(m): 2:16pm On Jul 10, 2021
quentin06:
between 2012 and 2014 I owned a 2003 Accord (End of discussion) I shuttle between Abuja and Calabar at least twice ayear , a distance of over 700km, driving through the bad roads of Ikom, Ogoja and some areas in Benue state, I never had this so called bow joint problem.

Yes the Compared to Toyota and Volkswagen the Honda wheels can look fragile , but the issue of shafts, bow joints and tie rod breaking or pulling

is common to most cars although different, these components usually give off a sign that all is not well, shafts makes noise when cornering,
with tie rods and bow joints there is excessive play in the front wheels.

Some Vehicle owners of Honda car who complain about these problems deliberately ignore the warning signs and blame the manufacturer while they re are at fault.

Through out the period I owned the accord, I have never been stranded on the road as a result of a bow joint problem.

i have seen owners of vw and toyota cars and suvs who were stranded because of torn shafts and broken bow joints a closer enquiry revealed prolong neglect of the warning signs by these owners.

Stop over flogging the issue, if you cant do necessary maintenance on a vehicle stick with a bike or keke. angry

your head they there, I don't deny the fact that the issue is not there but every car has it own defect. People considers several issues before selecting the cars they which to buy(except for few who just buy cars just because they like it without doing a thorugh resesrch about the said car). Honda is a very wonderful car on interior, feel, handle, engine and gadgets. The only defect people see in honda (leg pull) is not limited to honda only that it is common.

Now why is it common?
Though the ball joint design may be defective but its not as serious as we Nigerians portrey it to be.
Reason are not far from the following points;
1. Bad roads. bad roads is generally not a friend of any car's tyres or suspension and this is a major problem in Nigeria. Therefore if you stay in place where roads is generally bad forget about honda.

2. Rough handling. People want to handle their honda the way they handle some other cars. Honda is built for confort and enjoyment. If you are a rough rider, or have a never care attitude, honda is not for you just get your low life toyota and leave honda for those who know how to pamper their babe.

3. Inferior spare parts. Every car over time are bound to throw up some fault. honda is not an exception but there are inferior ball joint every where which when fixed cannot last the user more than few months. when you buy honda ask existing users with good testimonies on ball joint how they handle it.

4.Technical know how

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Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by meetgaya: 7:25pm On Jul 10, 2021
Richdad50:
shocked

All these long talk for an inferior car brand. It is better to own a 1999 Passat than a 2007 Honda Accord ( End of Discussion or continue)

Richdad

When you have a bad maintenance culture, you must talk this rubbish
Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by okoroemeka(m): 4:19am On Jul 11, 2021
mejai:
so now, did u perform such ritual on ur DC?
NO or probably not yet,only time will tell,but before the damn bow joint will come off you will have advanced warning,if you enter bad road you will hear KPA,kPUM from the bad side,that is the warning to go and see your mechanic,and in 70-80% of all my bow joint pull off the main cause is the nut that holds it stripping off,if the mechanic can force a strong nail into the bowjoint hole after tighten the nut you can drive with peace of mind,the hole is there for a reason.

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Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by Eldemmi(m): 10:41pm On Sep 06, 2021
okoroemeka,
you were buying fake ball joints then.
original toks have multiple holes and come with castle nut.
Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by Harrisoneze: 11:12pm On Oct 28, 2021
pls my brother can I use the Dc for Uber business if yes which of the engine size should I go go for thanks
Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by okoroemeka(m): 10:39pm On Oct 29, 2021
Aaaaarghmed:
that 08 accord doesn't pull easily and for your friend own to pull ,something is wrong somewhere.leg pull is more common with babyboy and EOD,its not too common with DC and evil spirit.
my own DC pulled last week,but seriously the thing gave countless of signs for at least 2 months,it started with a mild kpokom if you enter small bump,it graduated to kpokokpoko,still I was planning when to visit the workshop,then it started to chop the Tyre,still I was too busy for the workshop,then the steering became stiff,that was when I decided to visit the workshop and bow joint pulled out on the way,the mech came and discovered that the bow joint has no grease inside and it grinded itself to Oblivion and pulled out,I changed the two sides and I am now very conscious of very kpakam and kpokom coming from my front tyres.and the EOD,DC and evil spirit uses the same bow joint.

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Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by sonssyo: 10:44am On Jan 23, 2022
okoroemeka:
my own DC pulled last week,but seriously the thing gave countless of signs for at least 2 months,it started with a mild kpokom if you enter small bump,it graduated to kpokokpoko,still I was planning when to visit the workshop,then it started to chop the Tyre,still I was too busy for the workshop,then the steering became stiff,that was when I decided to visit the workshop and bow joint pulled out on the way,the mech came and discovered that the bow joint has no grease inside and it grinded itself to Oblivion and pulled out,I changed the two sides and I am now very conscious of very kpakam and kpokom coming from my front tyres.and the EOD,DC and evil spirit uses the same bow joint.


I see, today, just today my Honda accord baby boy started kpakam noise,I just packed it,my mechanic will come and fix it tomorrow,I hate what I don't like,worse is that it started just today
Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by alphaNomega: 10:56am On Jan 24, 2022
sonssyo:



I see, today, just today my Honda accord baby boy started kpakam noise,I just packed it,my mechanic will come and fix it tomorrow,I hate what I don't like,worse is that it started just today

Does your route include bad roads? Did you follow any bad road recently?
Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by sonssyo: 11:19am On Jan 24, 2022
alphaNomega:


Does your route include bad roads? Did you follow any bad road recently?

Not really a bad road,I didn't Sir
Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by androidFather: 2:18pm On Jan 24, 2022
Am thinking of buying Honda civic 2005 model or Honda city 2005 model for Bolt business. Do these models also have leg issues? Please help.
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Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by tobisunday(m): 11:14am On Jan 28, 2022
androidFather:
Am thinking of buying Honda civic 2005 model or Honda city 2005 model for Bolt business. Do these models also have leg issues? Please help.

Please someone should shed more light on this question.
Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by okoroemeka(m): 8:35pm On Jan 29, 2022
tobisunday:


Please someone should shed more light on this question.
buy what you like,I have been driving Honda's for 8 years now from babyboy,Acura to DC,I don't care if they pull leg or hands,I like Honda's and I will upgrade next to the ridgeline

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Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by Aaaaarghmed(m): 8:43pm On Jan 29, 2022
okoroemeka:
buy what you like,I have been driving Honda's for 8 years now from babyboy,Acura to DC,I don't care if they pull leg or hands,I like Honda's and I will upgrade next to the ridgeline
I swear maintainance is key..I just took a friend honda to mech to change, shocks, ball joint,shaft and bearing.note that na just general inspection but the shaft bin dey make noise.pesin no gatt wait for car to Bleep up before e do inspection.not everyone can use a Honda. MY Next car is evil spirit,if the money long na rx350.honda is bae.
Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by Aaaaarghmed(m): 8:45pm On Jan 29, 2022
tobisunday:


Please someone should shed more light on this question.
they dont have leg issues.but if your mind no carry Honda jejely buy toyota.not everyone can use Honda, I will never trade Honda performance, weight and stability on speed to Toyota, even the comfort and durable shocks.the cars you mentioned are good cars,I also use a civic 05,rugged car.
Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by powerblaze(m): 8:00pm On Apr 18, 2022
Babadee1900:
So many misinformed people on this thread. China Knockoff parts will show una pepper. Buy Genuine Honda OEM part or buy Grade one Tokunbo part y’all won’t listen. Be buying #1500 Ball joints and expect it not to pull off on the road.

What's the oem cost like?

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Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by priestJoshua: 12:46am On Jul 22, 2022
Then is it advisable to buy Nigerian used Honda Accord cos am planning to get one though still neat.
Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by Aaaaarghmed(m): 5:11am On Jul 22, 2022
priestJoshua:
Then is it advisable to buy Nigerian used Honda Accord cos am planning to get one though still neat.
yes...a well maintained unit.Then maintain it well.Ive used 3 fairly used Accord.
Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by rapheal5(m): 4:27pm On Jan 11
adanny01:


I wish you could answer my questions honestly.

Have you ever changed your Honda ball joint? Did you buy it yourself or mechanic did on your behalf? Did your mechanic install a cotter pin or not?

Let me tell you what can pull out in a Honda leg

1. Lower arm ball joint (95% of pull outs)
2. Upper arm ball joint (hardly pulls out)
3. Tie rod end inner (5% of the pull out)
4. Tie rod end outter (hardly ever)

Before i give you my point, there are 3 dampers (bushing) on the lower arm, 2 on the upper arm, 1 on the stabilizer linkage.

Now, for a driver who has no idea of the mechanism of a car and cannot even know if he has a pending leg problem (like my mother), this person will drive till the leg pulls.

For the driver who is broke and cannot immediately afford to fix a problem with 1 of these, when a second issue joins, he will never know at what point the leg is in critical condition and needs urgent attention. A leg problem needs a critical and sensitive person to point but when the problem is more than 1, it becomes very difficult to trace without stripping the entire leg looking for fault. This person will also drive till it pulls.

To those who have money and will throw it a slight notice without giving an eye to quality of parts Installed, you will still get the pull.

So how does one stop it from happening, answer the questions I asked and you will hear the solution.

90% of the Honda on our roads came from the US, they dont have this problem. Honda has never recalled a vehicle for this problem (within my knowledge) and have recalled vehicles for issues far smaller than this serious mechanical failure. It doesn't happen in Canada, Japan, Dubai or other countries these cars are used except in Nigeria. The problem is local, has nothing to do with Honda as a brand and Honda company isnt aware of it.

If you dont reply with answers to questions asked, i will state here that you should continue to bad mouth Honda for my benefit. How? The more people find Honda as unreliable, the less its value and the more i buy Honda for less money but higher value. Do you understand the economics? Isnt this the main reason why a used Corolla is more expensive than a used Camry even though the true value of camry is higher.
I'm about to get honda 2007, kindly help with solution to leg pulling..thanks
Re: How To Avoid The Common Honda Ball Joint Problem by rapheal5(m): 4:41pm On Jan 11
okoroemeka:
i use 2007 Honda Dc now but when I was driving a babyboy the problem was so bad that I learnt how to work the bow joint myself and have spare parts and spanner in the car,but that problem was eventually solved in onitsha when they changed the Honda bowjoint to a Renault bow joint I drove the car for a year+ without any further incident before selling it off,that's why you are still seeing Honda cars on the road without swapping its weak bow joint with a stronger Renault bow joint driving a Honda in Nigeria bad roads will be a nightmare.
You mean just any Renault bow joint..Tokunbo or new?

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