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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 9:02pm On Nov 19, 2020
Nateevs2:


Hehehe. You are quoting Gulliani for pete's sake. There's nothing more evident of first class stupidity and idiocy, than trying to make truth of what Rudy is saying. Even people in Trump's circle know Rudy like you, is a full blown idiot. And you are here trying to point a finger at me? You need urgent health care.

You are not interested in the truth. You are glued to conspiracy. If you are interested in the truth and not peddling falsehood, then ignore my keyboard's autocorrect mission and challenge me. Go and prove that everything I said about The Special Counsel is wrong.

Is there anything more confirmatory of your lunacy and idiocy than your delusional belief that your words are to believed more than that of Giuliani a seasoned legal practitioner, a former governor of New York and presidential candidate who led the response of New York like a warrior on 9/11? Your malady has gone beyond idiocy, you are a raving lunatic!! I have nothing to prove to an inconsequential nonentity on nairaland whose sanity is in doubt. And please stop blaming your keyboard for your hogwash, a lunatic mind will always produce the kind of gibberish you dropped up there.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 9:03pm On Nov 19, 2020
Nateevs2:


These are the types of lunatics who will sell their own kind to racists, on the promise of some type of con.
You ain't lying. Imagine these worthless Coons pulling stuff put of Breitbart Blogs, Faux News and other Right Wing blogs trying to make them look good not knowing they look like unpaid Uncle Toms that they are.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 9:03pm On Nov 19, 2020
bayelsaowei:
grin grin

The funny part is all they do is based on someone said and hearsay. Everything they have ben saying from the beginning is based on hearsay.
These people are funny but also dangerous, as concrete ignorance can kill people.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 9:03pm On Nov 19, 2020
AmazonTopaz:

Who cares?not me it won't change the fact that on the 20th of January Biden takes office.

Better accept reality
Let's wait till then, We will all see what's real and what's not.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bayelsaowei(m): 9:04pm On Nov 19, 2020
AmazonTopaz:

Even ojomadiba,sexylassie2 itchie and obixcel have all accepted reality since Trump lost those accounts have not posted on this thread except lassie who posted a few times here grieving Trump's loss before going absent here.
These ones are still here arguing rubbish from their alternate universe.

alternative you got it correctly. And that OANN is the very galaxy they live in.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 9:06pm On Nov 19, 2020
AmazonTopaz:

Even ojomadiba,sexylassie2 itchie and obixcel have all accepted reality since Trump lost those accounts have not posted on this thread except lassie who posted a few times here grieving Trump's loss before going absent here.
These ones are still here arguing rubbish from their alternate universe.

These guys you see here still licking the rear of the morbidly obese pig Trump are truly mental midgets. That's why I shunned them because I don't want to fuel their lunacy by replying them. They love for people to dialogue with them and I refuse to participate in their pyschiatric meltdown.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bayelsaowei(m): 9:06pm On Nov 19, 2020
Obrigardo:


The funny part is all they do is based on someone said and hearsay. Everything they have ben saying from the beginning is based on hearsay.
These people are funny but also dangerous, as concrete ignorance can kill people.
i tell you..tell them to present in court that 20000 dead people voted you will start hearing erhm erhm erhm..very annoying lot. angry

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 9:07pm On Nov 19, 2020
Obrigardo:


Rudy is a joke. If Borat can run a round on rudy, don't you think rudy is running around himself?
A man wanting to get some action doesn't make him a joke. He was set up and many of you judging him because he fell for it will also jump at an opportunity to get in bed with a beautiful woman.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 9:08pm On Nov 19, 2020
PrideofLincoln1:
You ain't lying. Imagine these worthless Coons pulling stuff put of Breitbart Blogs, Faux News and other Right Wing blogs trying to make them look good not knowing they look like unpaid Uncle Toms that they are.
Lol... Broken record. For 2months you have been saying the same thing. Upaid, coon, uncle Tom and someone mistakenly called you a human today. Thats the best thing someone has done for you grin oya shoot. Umadike, mosquitoes blablabla grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by busky007: 9:08pm On Nov 19, 2020
benalvino2:

If you apply common sense you would understand what I am saying... But these days common sense is not so common.
Exactly shocked.

It is more noticeable in MAGAts from Umudike.But you can't shame the shameless grin grin. I am more surprised how your brain was able to process this fact.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 9:08pm On Nov 19, 2020
Trump campaign drops lawsuit challenging Michigan voting results

President Trump's reelection campaign said Thursday that it is dropping a lawsuit challenging voting results in Michigan, which show Democrat Joe Biden narrowly carrying the battleground state.

“This morning we are withdrawing our lawsuit in Michigan," Rudy Giuliani, Trump's personal attorney, said in a statement.

Giuliani, the former mayor of New York City, said the decision to rescind the lawsuit is the "direct result of achieving the relief we sought: to stop the election in Wayne County from being prematurely certified before residents can be assured that every legal vote has been counted and every illegal vote has not been counted."

The Trump campaign's lawsuit had attempted to stop Wayne County, Michigan's most populous county and includes Detroit, from certifying its election results, alleging that thousands of invalid ballots were counted by election workers.

On Tuesday, the Wayne County Board of Canvassers -- in an abrupt about-face -- unanimously certified election results that showed Biden beating Trump, hours after two Republicans blocked formal approval of the votes cast.

The two Republicans, Monica Palmer and William Hartmann, later claimed in signed affidavits they only voted to certify the results after “hours of sustained pressure" and after getting promises that their concerns about the election would be investigated.

A person familiar with the matter told The Associated Press that Trump reached out to Palmer and Hartmann on Tuesday evening after the revised vote to express gratitude for their support.

“We deserve better — but more importantly, the American people deserve better — than to be forced to accept an outcome achieved through intimidation, deception, and threats of violence,” they said in a statement Wednesday night. “Wayne County voters need to have full confidence in this process."

State officials said the certification of the Detroit-area vote will stand.

Trump lost Michigan by about 155,000 votes, according to unofficial results still being certified by county boards of canvassers. There is no evidence or proof of widespread election fraud.

Federal and state officials from both parties have declared the 2020 election safe and secure. But Trump and his allies have spent two weeks raising false claims of fraud and refusing to concede to President-elect Joe Biden.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-campaign-drops-lawsuit-challenging-michigan-voting-results

"Giuliani, the former mayor of New York City, said the decision to rescind the lawsuit is the "direct result of achieving the relief we sought: to stop the election in Wayne County from being prematurely certified before residents can be assured that every legal vote has been counted and every illegal vote has not been counted."

State officials said the certification of the Detroit-area vote will stand.

They’ve moved from the legal challenge phase into the alternative fact phase"

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 9:09pm On Nov 19, 2020
busky007:
Exactly shocked.

It is more noticeable in MAGAts from Umudike.But you can't shame the shameless grin grin. I am more surprised how your brain was able to process this fact.
You didn't understand what she was saying. Again, common sense is not so common. You should have watched it instead.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bayelsaowei(m): 9:10pm On Nov 19, 2020
PrideofLincoln1:
Have been saying it here for months that Trump is suffering from mid stage dementia and you don't expect anything rational from him. Fred Trump, his father died of dementia in 1999 and dementia is hereditary.
grin grin...really trump is just outright mad. How can he prove the below in court ?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 9:10pm On Nov 19, 2020
bayelsaowei:
i tell you..tell them to present in court that 20000 dead people voted you will start hearing erhm erhm erhm..very annoying lot. angry

It seems people have been programmed to be so dumb that they are not rising up and putting these people into the gutter, because from what i see they are just lying. In old times, you chase them out with wood or throw them into a moat

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by busky007: 9:12pm On Nov 19, 2020
benalvino2:

You didn't understand what she was saying. Again, common sense is not so common.
looks like the only thing you were able to learn this week grin grin.
You are surely improving

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 9:12pm On Nov 19, 2020
Still on the press conference, Sidney Powell said that the algorithm programmed into the Dominion system weighted Biden and Trump votes differently to help the former and hurt the latter and it was only discovered because they made mistakes while trying to catch up with Trump's number of votes that was much more than they expected.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 9:13pm On Nov 19, 2020
Bluebyrd:

A man wanting to get some action doesn't make him a joke. He was set up and many of you judging him because he fell for it will also jump at an opportunity to get in bed with a beautiful woman.

If your granddad was this charlatan like rudy, mr man your head will not sleep a nights rest, except you don't like your grandaddy

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 9:15pm On Nov 19, 2020
Obrigardo:


Yes, Biden's AG will just let NY and Manhattan roll salad on trump. Then when they are done, he/she will step in.
Obstruction of justice case is waiting, emoluments clause case, Jean carrols case, the other lady he raped case in on, NY AG tax fraud and trump org case is on, Manhattan AG case in on, not to talk of what Biden could still uncover especially with trump awarding Federal lands to oil companies.
At the end Biden's AG might be inconsequential to the downfall of trump
Another lady he raped too has a case.

And other legal challenges Trump is in trouble not to talk of his efforts to undermine the election right now these things have consequences

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 9:16pm On Nov 19, 2020
bayelsaowei:
grin grin...really trump is just outright mad. How can he prove the below in court ?
When someone is suffering from dementia, you do not expect anything rational from the person. That old fat piece of human garbage is a curse on America and thank God, that curse has been removed.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 9:16pm On Nov 19, 2020
Bluebyrd:
Still on the press conference, Sidney Powell said that the algorithm programmed into the Dominion system weighted Biden and Trump votes differently to help the former and hurt the latter and it was only discovered because they made mistakes while trying to catch up with Trump's number of votes that was much more than they expected.

These low intelligence people even knows what algorithm is but couldnt use a search engine to find the Four seasons hotel, instead they went to a gutter. These people are hideous and dangerous.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 9:17pm On Nov 19, 2020
bayelsaowei:
alternative you got it correctly. And that OANN is the very galaxy they live in.
They have abandoned Fox their ratings are down.I saw their newly released ratings it was down grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 9:18pm On Nov 19, 2020
All these people coming from their bat caves (at the mention and post of Trump) are we sure they're humans? This is weird.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by busky007: 9:18pm On Nov 19, 2020
Karl Rove and FOX will be regretting the monsters they created. grin
Almost labels Rudy conspiracy theories Crazy
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 9:20pm On Nov 19, 2020
happney65:
Trump campaign drops lawsuit challenging Michigan voting results

"Giuliani, the former mayor of New York City, said the decision to rescind the lawsuit is the "direct result of achieving the relief we sought: to stop the election in Wayne County from being prematurely certified before residents can be assured that every legal vote has been counted and every illegal vote has not been counted."

They’ve moved from the legal challenge phase into the alternative fact phase"


Hmnn. . . . .so this explains why they dropped the lawsuit. It is not like the way these stoopid, crazy Fake News peddling people want us to have it.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 9:20pm On Nov 19, 2020
bayelsaowei:
grin grin...really trump is just outright mad. How can he prove the below in court ?

He would face the consequences of this when he leaves office.

This was the same process that brought him in and he even lost the popular vote yet he is now undermining it because it did not go his way.

Hillary was right when she said this 4 years ago.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 9:21pm On Nov 19, 2020
AmazonTopaz:

They have abandoned Fox their ratings are down.I saw their newly released ratings it was down grin
Fox News ratings are heading for the gutters. Their viewers are moving to OANN and Newsmax.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by edi287: 9:21pm On Nov 19, 2020
AmazonTopaz:

They were talking about Hugo Chavez who died in 2013 those people are clowns jaree grin grin
Like the thing is tiring. We all know what this guy is trying to do.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 9:21pm On Nov 19, 2020
Trump tries to subvert the election, inviting Michigan G.O.P. lawmakers to the White House

After failing repeatedly in court to overturn election results, President Trump is taking the extraordinary step of reaching out directly to Republican state legislators as he tries to subvert the Electoral College process, inviting Michigan lawmakers to meet with him at the White House on Friday.

Mr. Trump contacted the Republican majority leader in the Michigan State Senate to issue the invitation, according to a person briefed on the invitation. It is not clear how many Michigan lawmakers will be making the trip to Washington, nor precisely what Mr. Trump plans to say to the lawmakers. The president has made few public appearances since the election and his daily schedule often has no events scheduled, despite the worsening coronavirus pandemic.

The White House invitation to Republican lawmakers in a battleground state is the latest — and the most brazen — salvo in a scattershot campaign-after-the-campaign waged by Mr. Trump and his allies to cast doubt on President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s decisive victory.

It comes as the Trump campaign and its allies have been seeking to overturn the results of the election in multiple states through lawsuits and intrusions into the state vote certification process, often targeting cities like Detroit, Philadelphia, Milwaukee and Atlanta with large and politically powerful Black populations. Mr. Trump himself reached out personally to at least one election official in Wayne County, Mich., home of Detroit, who tried to decertify the results there.

Some members of Mr. Trump’s team have promoted the legally dubious theory that friendly legislatures could under certain scenarios effectively subvert the popular vote and send their own, pro-Trump delegations to the Electoral College.

The Michigan Senate leader who received Mr. Trump’s invitation, Mike Shirkey, said in an interview earlier this week with Bridge Michigan, a local news outlet, that the Legislature would not move to appoint its own slate of electors, stating, “That’s not going to happen.”

The statewide canvassing board, a bipartisan four-member panel, is responsible for certifying Michigan’s election results by a Monday deadline, a step that must take place before any move could be made to change the electors.

One of the Republican members of the board, Norm Shinkle, said in an interview on Thursday that he was coming under enormous pressure regarding his vote, which he said was complicated by a late night announcement from the two Republicans on the four-member canvassing board in Wayne County, which includes Detroit, that they wanted to “rescind” their votes to certify the county’s results.

Mr. Trump reached out Tuesday night to one of those Republicans, Monica Palmer, to thank her for her support, according to two people briefed on the call. Ms. Palmer and the other Republican board member, William Hartmann, had initially refused to certify the election results, before relenting Tuesday night after a public outcry and accusations of that they were trying to disenfranchise voters in Detroit, which is more than three-quarters Black. Ms. Palmer and Mr. Hartmann are white.

On Tuesday, Mr. Shirkey condemned threats of violence received by members of the Wayne County board of electors, and he indicated that the legislature would conduct their own investigation, but that it was not their place to resolve questions about the election.

“Additional concerns have been brought before the courts, which is the proper place to resolve questions of legality surrounding the state elections process,” Mr. Shirkey said

“There is no legal mechanism for them to rescind their vote,” Tracy Wimmer, a spokeswoman for Michigan’s top election official, Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, said on Thursday. “Their job is done and the next step in the process is for the Board of State Canvassers to meet and certify.” That meeting is scheduled for next Monday.

The Trump campaign’s lead election lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, announced Thursday morning that the campaign was withdrawing a federal suit it had filed seeking to stop the certification of results in Wayne County. The campaign attached the affidavits to the dismissal notice.

Mr. Biden won nearly 95 percent of the vote in Detroit and around 70 percent of the vote in Wayne County en route to winning Michigan by more than 150,000 votes.

After Ms. Palmer and Mr. Hartmann initially refused to certify the election results over slight discrepancies in majority-Black precincts, while ignoring similar problems in heavily white areas of the county where Mr. Biden won a far smaller share of the vote, public outcry ensued, with 300 voters and civil rights leaders on a Zoom call expressing outrage.

Hours later, Ms. Palmer and Mr. Hartmann changed course and voted to certify. But in their affidavits the next day, they effectively said that they had been bullied into voting for the certification and that they did not believe the Democrats on the board were following through with their promise to ensure an independent audit of the Wayne County results.

The announcement about the Republicans’ attempt to rescind their certification votes arrived in a news release from a Virginia-based public-relations firm, ProActive Communications, that has been paid millions for consulting work for Mr. Trump’s campaign and whose founder, Mark Serrano, has been a frequent television defender of the president’s.

With the withdrawal of the Wayne County suit, the Trump campaign and its Republican supporters have now lost or withdrawn from all of their major legal actions in Michigan, although the state’s Supreme Court is still considering an appeal of a lower court’s decision not to halt the certification of Wayne County’s results.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/19/us/joe-biden-trump-updates?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 9:22pm On Nov 19, 2020
Joe Biden president - reject

After all the dust have settled
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 9:24pm On Nov 19, 2020
Bluebyrd:
Giuliani alleges that Joe Biden probably had advance knowledge of the plan and that's what he let slip when he said he has assembled the biggest "voter fraud" organization in history and it also explains the reluctance of Biden to campaign indicating confidence that he did not need to campaign because he already knew of the plan to steal the elections.

Hahahaha this is the funniest one so far. Giuliani na con man

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nateevs2: 9:24pm On Nov 19, 2020
Bluebyrd:

Is there anything more confirmatory of your lunacy and idiocy than your delusional belief that your words are to believed more than that of Giuliani a seasoned legal practitioner, a former governor of New York and presidential candidate who led the response of New York like a warrior on 9/11? Your malady has gone beyond idiocy, you are a raving lunatic!! I have nothing to prove to an inconsequential nonentity on nairaland whose sanity is in doubt. And please stop blaming your keyboard for your hogwash, a lunatic mind will always produce the kind of gibberish you dropped up there.

You have nothing to prove because you are correct, you really have NOTHING!

The Giuliani legacy is destroyed. Nobody cares about what he has to say any longer except raving mad children like yourself.

The same Rudy that was disgraced in court only a few days ago. Not even his own team could understand what he was saying in court. That's the same person you are loving up. Oloshi.

And the fact that you cannot see that he stands for nothing now except sheer stupidity is proof of your situation. Even people in Trump's circle thinks Rudy is mad. But I can imagine that for you, in this special case of utter stupidity and for the purpose of aligning with crazy Rudy, those Trump people are mad too right?

But I am the lunatic.

Weyrey.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 9:24pm On Nov 19, 2020
happney65:
Trump tries to subvert the election, inviting Michigan G.O.P. lawmakers to the White House

After failing repeatedly in court to overturn election results, President Trump is taking the extraordinary step of reaching out directly to Republican state legislators as he tries to subvert the Electoral College process, inviting Michigan lawmakers to meet with him at the White House on Friday.

Mr. Trump contacted the Republican majority leader in the Michigan State Senate to issue the invitation, according to a person briefed on the invitation. It is not clear how many Michigan lawmakers will be making the trip to Washington, nor precisely what Mr. Trump plans to say to the lawmakers. The president has made few public appearances since the election and his daily schedule often has no events scheduled, despite the worsening coronavirus pandemic.

The White House invitation to Republican lawmakers in a battleground state is the latest — and the most brazen — salvo in a scattershot campaign-after-the-campaign waged by Mr. Trump and his allies to cast doubt on President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s decisive victory.

It comes as the Trump campaign and its allies have been seeking to overturn the results of the election in multiple states through lawsuits and intrusions into the state vote certification process, often targeting cities like Detroit, Philadelphia, Milwaukee and Atlanta with large and politically powerful Black populations. Mr. Trump himself reached out personally to at least one election official in Wayne County, Mich., home of Detroit, who tried to decertify the results there.

Some members of Mr. Trump’s team have promoted the legally dubious theory that friendly legislatures could under certain scenarios effectively subvert the popular vote and send their own, pro-Trump delegations to the Electoral College.

The Michigan Senate leader who received Mr. Trump’s invitation, Mike Shirkey, said in an interview earlier this week with Bridge Michigan, a local news outlet, that the Legislature would not move to appoint its own slate of electors, stating, “That’s not going to happen.”

The statewide canvassing board, a bipartisan four-member panel, is responsible for certifying Michigan’s election results by a Monday deadline, a step that must take place before any move could be made to change the electors.

One of the Republican members of the board, Norm Shinkle, said in an interview on Thursday that he was coming under enormous pressure regarding his vote, which he said was complicated by a late night announcement from the two Republicans on the four-member canvassing board in Wayne County, which includes Detroit, that they wanted to “rescind” their votes to certify the county’s results.

Mr. Trump reached out Tuesday night to one of those Republicans, Monica Palmer, to thank her for her support, according to two people briefed on the call. Ms. Palmer and the other Republican board member, William Hartmann, had initially refused to certify the election results, before relenting Tuesday night after a public outcry and accusations of that they were trying to disenfranchise voters in Detroit, which is more than three-quarters Black. Ms. Palmer and Mr. Hartmann are white.

On Tuesday, Mr. Shirkey condemned threats of violence received by members of the Wayne County board of electors, and he indicated that the legislature would conduct their own investigation, but that it was not their place to resolve questions about the election.

“Additional concerns have been brought before the courts, which is the proper place to resolve questions of legality surrounding the state elections process,” Mr. Shirkey said

“There is no legal mechanism for them to rescind their vote,” Tracy Wimmer, a spokeswoman for Michigan’s top election official, Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, said on Thursday. “Their job is done and the next step in the process is for the Board of State Canvassers to meet and certify.” That meeting is scheduled for next Monday.

The Trump campaign’s lead election lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, announced Thursday morning that the campaign was withdrawing a federal suit it had filed seeking to stop the certification of results in Wayne County. The campaign attached the affidavits to the dismissal notice.

Mr. Biden won nearly 95 percent of the vote in Detroit and around 70 percent of the vote in Wayne County en route to winning Michigan by more than 150,000 votes.

After Ms. Palmer and Mr. Hartmann initially refused to certify the election results over slight discrepancies in majority-Black precincts, while ignoring similar problems in heavily white areas of the county where Mr. Biden won a far smaller share of the vote, public outcry ensued, with 300 voters and civil rights leaders on a Zoom call expressing outrage.

Hours later, Ms. Palmer and Mr. Hartmann changed course and voted to certify. But in their affidavits the next day, they effectively said that they had been bullied into voting for the certification and that they did not believe the Democrats on the board were following through with their promise to ensure an independent audit of the Wayne County results.

The announcement about the Republicans’ attempt to rescind their certification votes arrived in a news release from a Virginia-based public-relations firm, ProActive Communications, that has been paid millions for consulting work for Mr. Trump’s campaign and whose founder, Mark Serrano, has been a frequent television defender of the president’s.

With the withdrawal of the Wayne County suit, the Trump campaign and its Republican supporters have now lost or withdrawn from all of their major legal actions in Michigan, although the state’s Supreme Court is still considering an appeal of a lower court’s decision not to halt the certification of Wayne County’s results.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/19/us/joe-biden-trump-updates?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

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