gidgiddy:


Really? So Igbos should not fight for Igbos? So because Nnamdi Kanu is an Ibeku man, he should never fight for an Ndoki man in Obigbo even though they are all Igbos. So what is the point of being a tribe if nobody is supposed to fight for nobody?

What is the fight in this case? That people should answer their ancestral name rather than an imposed name?

I laugh in chinese

The guy's comment is as stupid as they come. No waste your strength.

Charleys:
Lagosians still call Lagos Eko.

Why not Ikwerre call port Harcourt Igweocha.

A case of giving a dog a bad name to hang it. Ever since Calabar was changed from Akwa-Akpa to Calabar, they denied their Akwa ibom brothers.

There is something in a name.

Igweocha is not Ikwerre language or any Ikwerre community or ancestral name.

What we have is Rebisi which is today Port harcourt.

It is igbos who call PH igweocha.

Have you asked the meaning of Igweocha?

gidgiddy:
What Nnamdi Kanu said is true, for those who care about history

The place was called Obigbo untill 1976 when they carved it out of Imo state, lumped it into Rivers State, and renamed it one ridiculous name called "Oyigbo"

The area known "Portharcourt ", what is Portharcourt? Portharcourt is simply a Seaport that was built on a land known as "Igwuocha". For those who do not know, Igwuocha and Obumotu were the farmlands of Ikwerre people that was used to build the port. Many Ikwerres still call Portharcourt 'Igwuocha'. It should have been called 'Portigwuocha'. But the British named the port after 'Vernon Harcourt', the then British secretary of colonies.

I support a place to be called by its ancestral name, not an imposed name.

Igweocha is not a name of any Ikwerre community or ancestors.

What is today Port harcourt is Rebisi.

It is you igbos who call it Igweocha and can you translate igweocha to English?

IkwerrePikin:


Igweocha is not a name of any Ikwerre community or ancestors.

What is today Port harcourt is Rebisi.

It is you igbos who call it Igweocha and can you translate igweocha to English?

Rebisi ko!? Rabies ni!?
Keep making it up as you dey go..

Ojiofor:


Umuahia his home town is an artificial name given to their people by strangers(Ibeku is the original name of Umuahia town) ,have he rejected it?
I repeat,If people of Obigbo are happy with their new name it is not the business of IPOB or Nnamdi Kanu to change it for them.
There are many villages and towns in Igbo land that have altered their names or changed it completely.
Oka town became Awka,Enugwu became Enugu,Onicha became Onitcha,Owere became Owerri,Ahaba became Asaba,Ogwu town became Awgu,Abakeleke became Abakiliki,Nkerefi became Umuchukwu etc..Why are you shedding so much tears for Obigbo and PH alone?
Why are you and MNK fixated on Obigbo replacing B with Y in Obigbo?
You are nothing but bunch of trouble makers and outlaws.

I use to love your contributions on Igbo matter, but I disagree with you on this one. You gave examples of other Igbo towns that were changed from their original spellings, like Oka town to Awka, Enugwu to Enugu, etc. Those spellings were corrupted by the British for easy pronunciation, but the case of Obigbo and Oyigbo are different.
Some lies if left unchallenged within some times it become truth. Obigbo and Oyigbo are two different names with different meanings to both Igbo and Ogoni and they are in contention to both groups. Everybody knows that the Original name of the the area is Obigbo which in Igbo means HEART of IGBO, but was renamed to Oyigbo which in Khana Ogoni means YOU BEFRIENDS US. Changing Igbo' Obigbo to Ogoni's Oyigbo was one of the injustices meted on the Igbos which Ogoni capitalised. I don't think anybody should blame any Igboman from anywhere who points to those injustices.

awgumayor:
I use to love your contributions on Igbo matter, but I disagree with you on this one. You gave examples of other Igbo towns that were change from their original spellings, like Oka town to Awka, Enugwu to Enugu, etc. Those spellings were corrupted by the British for easy pronunciation, but the case of Obigbo and Oyigbo are different.
Some lies if left unchallenged within some times it become truth. Obigbo and Oyigbo are two different names with different meanings to both Igbo and Ogoni and they are in contention to both groups. Everybody knows that the Original name of the the area is Obigbo which in Igbo means HEART of IGBO, but was renamed to Oyigbo which in Khana Ogoni means YOU BEFRIENDS US. Changing Igbo' Obigbo to Ogoni's Oyigbo was one of the injustices meted on the Igbos which Ogoni capitalised. I don't think anybody should blame any Igboman from anywhere who points to those injustices.

My brother you are absolutely correct but you know what?
Why are indigenes of Obigbo silent about it?
You can't cry more than the bereaved in this case,that is my point.
If Diobu people are happy to call their land Portharcourt why should someone from Umuahia or Enugu worry more than they should?
And finally,have people of Obigbo ever complain about the name change?

IkwerrePikin:


Igweocha is not a name of any Ikwerre community or ancestors.

What is today Port harcourt is Rebisi.

It is you igbos who call it Igweocha and can you translate igweocha to English?

What was the original name of the land the port was built? Have you heard of Igwuocha and Obumotu at all?

Until some of you learn to see the bigger picture, you lot will continue to make mistakes! I have said it here, time without number that Kanu is not a problem of the igbos. Allow him do his thing. What he's doing is very important. Even in political warfare, propaganda is like a nuclear weapon. Power conceeds nothing without a fight. But you guys keep spending much time fighting kanu than your enemies. How that even makes sense to you guys, I don't know.

You lot find holes in everything he says. We are being swallowed by nigeria, none of you have a tangible plan other than some sterile rants. If kanu dies today, you all will be placid because you can't confront the monsters in Abuja with good English. You must fight.. To fight, you must rile up the people. Kanu is part of a revolutionary process. Don't expect him to get it right all the time! You all should do your bit and allow him do his... Nothing wrong with dragging ikwerre with Wike! Afterall Amaechi said he's not from Benin! Drag them! It's politics! You loose nothing by just trying! Na waaooo

Ma..d man. You will not focus on one thing

Ojiofor nwannem inwelu time...

I enjoyed your points though.

IkwerrePikin:


Igweocha is not Ikwerre language or any Ikwerre community or ancestral name.

What we have is Rebisi which is today Port harcourt.

It is igbos who call PH igweocha.

Have you asked the meaning of Igweocha?

Your so-called clan in ikwerre land are Intruders! The aboriginal owners of the land have told you the name of their town! You said you guys came from Benin and I say, to Benin, you should go back! Go back to Benin and stop disturbing the original owners of the land. The original name is igweocha! You don't like it? Pack your bag and head back to upper sakpomgba junction.. Ikwerre land is not presently made up of a people from one historical lineage. That has been over thrashed and nobody is going to allow you swallow any clan in ikwerre land that doesn't buy into your Benin tales by moonlight! You can't stay in Portharcout and say there are no igbos in Rivers State as you slaughter the people of Obigbo for identifying as igbos. Are the people of Obigbo not from rivets?? You fear Igbo domination but you want to dominate folks from Obigbo? Go to equity with clean hands..

Okoroawusa:
Ojiofor nwannem inwelu time...

I enjoyed your points though.

Dalu onye nkem.

Rugaria:


Your so-called clan in ikwerre land are Intruders! The aboriginal owners of the land have told you the name of their town! You said you guys came from Benin and I say, to Benin, you should go back! Go back to Benin and stop disturbing the original owners of the land. The original name is igweocha! You don't like it? Pack your bag and head back to upper sakpomgba junction.. Ikwerre land is not presently made up of a people from one historical lineage. That has been over thrashed and nobody is going to allow you swallow any clan in ikwerre land that doesn't buy into your Benin tales by moonlight! You can't stay in Portharcout and say there are no igbos in Rivers State as you slaughter the people of Obigbo for identifying as igbos. Are the people of Obigbo not from rivets?? You fear Igbo domination but you want to dominate folks from Obigbo? Go to equity with clean hands..

Even if we Ikwerre wants to change the name of PH it will be Rebisi and you igbo migrants can’t do nothing.

I ask again what’s the meaning of Igweocha in English?? Shame will not allow you answer cos the meaning is useless

Y0rubakwe:
Off topic but if we where to go back in history, igbos should own akwa ibom, cross rivers and some parts of Cameron. The aros conquered these locations fair and square. The fulanis conquered kwarra, but they can still claim ownership of the state till date. Why don’t the government allow igbos for the ownership of akwa ibom and cross rivers? Did our ancestors war effort go to waste?!?!

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Better mind that leaking mouth of yours, the Aros conquered who?
The Igbos should own AkwaIbom/ Cross River where?
Yet over 95% of slave taken out of Itu, Ikot abasi( Opopo) and Calabar ports were strictly IBO's
Look when ancient Calabar, Itu, Ikot Abasi, Bonny and Benin cities were dealing with merchants you lots were still running naked deep Inside the interior bushes

If you are still suffering from the effects the Aros melted on you Igbo's and sold majority of you to the Ibibio slaves dealers never you repeat that ego tripping LIES again.
Aros were rebelled slaves to the Ibibios at Ibom, they betrayed the Ibibio ruler by conniving with the disgruntled chiefs younger brother together with the Akpas( Ekoi) to kill the ruler of Ibom.

Other Ibibios town existed long before Ibom which is just up the river from the a major inner port of Itu.
Never did they conquered any AkwaCross land or by any means controlled any seaport but only brought slaves of IBO extraction to the Ibibios

Rugaria:


Rebisi ko!? Rabies ni!?
Keep making it up as you dey go..

You’re ranting

This is Rebisi flyover as named by Wike

We Ikwerre people have no one called igweocha in our communities.

Igweocha is what you igbos call PH and can you translate that to English?

No ancestors in Ikwerre land was ever named igweocha so where did the name come from? You see how you igbos keep fooling yourself?

IkwerrePikin:



Even if we Ikwerre wants to change the name of PH it will be Rebisi and you igbo migrants can’t do nothing.

I ask again what’s the meaning of Igweocha in English?? Shame will not allow you answer cos the meaning is useless

What is the meaning of Nyesomghosa Wikevie in Edo?

nsiba:
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Better mind that leaking mouth of yours, the Aros conquered who?
The Igbos should own AkwaIbom/ Cross River where?
Yet over 95% of slave taken out of Itu, Ikot abasi( Opopo) and Calabar ports were strictly IBO's
Look when ancient Calabar, Itu, Ikot Abasi, Bonny and Benin cities were dealing with merchants you lots were still running naked deep Inside the interior bushes

If you are still suffering from the effects the Aros melted on you Igbo's and sold majority of you to the Ibibio slaves dealers never you repeat that ego tripping LIES again.
Aros were rebelled slaves to the Ibibios at Ibom, they never conquered any AkwaCross land or by any means controlled any seaport but only brought slaves of IBO extraction to the Ibibios

Hahaha. All of the slave dealers had Igbo names. Ibibios and the rest where sold as slaves, but Igbos where in higher demand because they yielded more money. They where seen as “super negro” because they where more muscular and superior to the rest. The ibibio where seen as sickly and dirty by their aro slave masters and they didn’t profit much from them, so they didn’t sell them as much as other tribes such as igbos and the rest. Igbos had thriving civilization, it’s just that we where last to be westernized because we fought against the whites for more than 25 years. I don’t know who told you that Igbos where bush people... I don’t know how you are coming up with these strange conclusions. The whites attacked nri kingdom many times, but failed whilst the oba of Benin’s palace was burnt in one day. Why is that?
I study history. If you want some pictures of precolonial Igbos I can show you.
Igbos where among the only subsaharan tribes to study astronomy and natural sciences. The nris calculated 13 lunar months. They where Republicans and wrote the first constitution. They had a writing system, they built pyramids (Maude pyramids), other complex structures (mbari structures) and many more. Majority of subsaharan Africans did not have this.
They made the first kingdom in west Africa (nri). They where the first in Nigeria to make copper pottery. They had clothing even before the white man came. They formed schools for teaching young women sowing, writing, etc

Y0rubakwe:


Hahaha. All of the slave dealers had Igbo names. Ibibios and the rest where sold as slaves, but Igbos where in higher demand because they yielded more money. They where seen as “super negro” because they where more muscular and superior to the rest. The ibibio where seen as sickly and dirty by their aro slave masters and they didn’t profit much from them, so they didn’t sell them as much as other tribes such as igbos and the rest. Igbos had thriving civilization, it’s just that we where last to be westernized because we fought against the whites for more than 25 years. I don’t know who told you that Igbos where bush people...

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Stop consolingly yourselves with lies, even in Arrochukwu Ibibios is still spoken the culture still reigns supreme.
You were not last to be westernized, you were total Bushmen penetrated only by the Aros who spoke Ibos and Ibibios, captured and brought you lots to bigger Ibibio port towns for onward departure to Calabar.
Plz don't bring in money or super negroes as many of them did commit Mass suicide, there is a thread about it here on NAIRALAND in the culture section
Like I said earlier, if you are still suffering from the afflictions melted on you lots by the Aros go and face them.
Aros dared not ventured into Itu and even continued practising the Ibibios culture till tomorrow, how then did they conquer AkwaCross?

Keep your miseries to yourself.

You are IBO and yet you don't know the difference between Aros and Nris?

nsiba:
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Better mind that leaking mouth of yours, the Aros conquered who?
The Igbos should own AkwaIbom/ Cross River where?
Yet over 95% of slave taken out of Itu, Ikot abasi( Opopo) and Calabar ports were strictly IBO's
Look when ancient Calabar, Itu, Ikot Abasi, Bonny and Benin cities were dealing with merchants you lots were still running naked deep Inside the interior bushes

If you are still suffering from the effects the Aros melted on you Igbo's and sold majority of you to the Ibibio slaves dealers never you repeat that ego tripping LIES again.
Aros were rebelled slaves to the Ibibios at Ibom, they betrayed the Ibibio ruler by conniving with the disgruntled chiefs younger brother together with the Akpas( Ekoi) to kill the ruler of Ibom.

Other Ibibios town existed long before Ibom which is just up the river from the a major inner port of Itu.
Never did they conquered any AkwaCross land or by any means controlled any seaport but only brought slaves of IBO extraction to the Ibibios

Ibibos never owned slaves ,they were enslaved. Arochwuku captured Igbo slaves in the hinterland and handed over to Efiks at Itu and Calabar who in turn sold to the whites. Ikot Abasi is not real ibibio and was not a major slave port. Only 3 Ships left Ikot Abasi (Opobo) port 5 years before abolition of slavery.
In those days there was no such thing as igbo . Aro did not see the slaves they captured as their kinsmen, also Ikot abasi raided and captured slaves at Eket ,Esit Eket ,Mkpat Enin ,Onna and did not see them as their kinsmen.

IkwerrePikin:


You’re ranting

This is Rebisi flyover as named by Wike

We Ikwerre people have no one called igweocha in our communities.

Igweocha is what you igbos call PH and can you translate that to English?

No ancestors in Ikwerre land was ever named igweocha so where did the name come from? You see how you igbos keep fooling yourself?

This is one confused guy. He is talking about Rebisi but knows nothing about Igwuocha and Obumotu, where what is now called 'Portharcourt' started from.

Anecdote:
Ibibos never owned slaves ,they were enslaved. Arochwuku captured slave in the hinterland and sold to Efiks who in turn sold to the whites.

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So the inner ports of Itu and IkotAbasi were controlled by who?
Enslaved by who?

Gidigidi, what is wrong with you.

Oyigbo people have thousands of legal practitioners, doctors, engineers, business men, educated traditional rulers they are not primitive and naive people. If they have problem with their local government name, they would have louded it. Kanu is not only stupid and foolish he is demon possessed. He has succeeded in making others to look at ndigbo one kind.

Anecdote:
Ibibos never owned slaves ,they were enslaved. Arochwuku captured Igbo slaves in the hinterland and handed over to Efiks at Itu and Calabar who in turn sold to the whites. Ikot Abasi is not real ibibio and was not a major slave port. Only 3 Ships left Ikot Abasi (Opobo) port. Also, in those days there was no such thing as igbo or ibibio. Aro did not see those slaves as their kinsmen, also Ikot abasi raided and captured slaves at Eket ,Esit Eket ,Mkpat Enin ,Onna and did not see them as their kinsmen.

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Aros raided where? Know how you run ya mouth!
Have you been to the slave port at Itu? So the Aros raided these towns yet there are no traces of Aro culture in Ibibios soil but if you go down to Ngwas and other IBO communities they will tell you the havoc of the Aros
If you don't have any slave port and slave dealers in your family why not keep shut

nsiba:
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So the inner ports of Itu and IkotAbasi were controlled by who?
Enslaved by who?

Ibibios were captured and sold by Mostly Efiks and some by Oron people . Ikot Abasi (Opobo) captured and sold ibibio slaves from Mkpat Enin , Onna and Eket. Ikot abasi did not see the captured as their kinsmen. The Efiks at Itu sold the ibibio. Few ibibios at itu may have also captured slaves from other clans . Even in the US some freed black slaves also captured and enslaved other black slaves.
The major slave ports in West Africa were Calabar,Lagos ,Ghana and Senegal .

Anecdote:
Ibibios were captured and sold by Mostly Efiks and some by Oron people . Ikot Abasi (Opobo) captured and sold ibibio slaves from Mkpat Enin , Onna and Eket. Ikot abasi did not see the captured as their kinsmen. The Efiks at Itu sold the ibibio. Few ibibios at itu may have also captured slaves from other clans . Even in the US some freed black slaves also captured and enslaved other black slaves.

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I can tell your stock, it is clearly visible. Fulani conquered illorin and till tomorrow it is clearly visible.
So Itu, Eket and other places don't have histories and stories of this raids and they don't have grudges like the ways IBO's have for Aros?
Efiks that dared not crossed Uruans water or is it Oron that dared not crossed into the bushes of Uruan, are they the lots that wanted to dare the ever fiery Eket tribes?

If you want to see the slave port and history of Itu, I will gladly show you but sharap you mouth of Efiks in Itu.

Even the so-called Efiks were kicked out from Uruan and Oku-Iboku of the Ibibios before camouflaging as Efiks at arrival of the merchants from Europe

nsiba:
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[s] I can tell your stock, it is clearly visible. Fulani conquered illorin and till tomorrow it is clearly visible.
So Itu, Eket and other places don't have histories and stories of this raids and they don't have grudges like the ways IBO's have for Aros?
Efiks that dared not crossed Uruans water or is it Oron that dared not crossed into the bushes of Uruan, are they the lots that wanted to dare the ever fiery Eket tribes?

If you want to see the slave port and history of Itu, I will gladly show you but sharap you mouth of Efiks in Itu.

Even the so-called Efiks were kicked out from Uruan and Oku-Iboku of the Ibibios before camouflaging as Efiks at arrival of the merchants from Europe[/s]

People like you argue unnecessarily , I won't bother trading words with you but fact are facts

Anecdote:
People like you argue unnecessarily , I won't bother trading words with you but fact are facts

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Facts written in your mothers kitchen, I am Ibibio by tribe tell me your tribe if you know you are a true son of your father

Anecdote:
People like you argue unnecessarily , I won't bother trading words with you but fact are facts

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So u just registered less than an hour ago to come run ya mouth with me...
I will be checking put scumbags profiles henceforth

Y0rubakwe:


All I needed to see was your profile picture to know that you are a confused illiterate

You are showing aro juju as gods miracle

My Yoruba brother, I no get your time.

Now I see how confused you are rest in chronic peace my OSU bloda

Ojiofor:


My brother you are absolutely correct but you know what?
Why are indigenes of Obigbo silent about it?
You can't cry more than the bereaved in this case,that is my point.
If Diobu people are happy to call their land Portharcourt why should someone from Umuahia or Enugu worry more than they should?
And finally,have people of Obigbo ever complain about the name change?

You and I know that anybody that antagonises Igbo becomes friends of Fulani. Ohaneze, in other to be seen as friends of the fulanis went as far as exonerated Wike being accused of killing Igbos in their ancestral homeland. Wike, despite the killings went to Sokoto to lay block foundation.
The people of Obigbo know the truth, but their hands are tied. The fear of losing relevance in the politics of River State made them mute. Some are waiting for the right time to speak up.
For somebody like Kanu to keep telling everyone the original names of those places is something commendable.

awgumayor:
You and I know that anybody that antagonises Igbo becomes friends of Fulani. Ohaneze, in other to be seen as friends of the fulanis went as far as exonerated Wike being accused of killing Igbos in their ancestral homeland. Wike, despite the killings went to Sokoto to lay block foundation.
The people of Obigbo know the truth, but their hands are tied. The fear of losing relevance in the politics of River State made them mute. Some are waiting for the right time to speak up.
For somebody like Kanu to keep telling everyone the original names of those places is something commendable.

IPOB should also apply wisdom and wait for that right time.
Reckless actions like this produce negative result both for Obigbo and Igbo nation at large.
If time is not taken you guys will force Obigbo people to start their own I no be Igbo nonsense because of IPOB lack of wisdom.
Nobody want to be dragged to a senseless and Unprepared war and the reason everyone is distancing themselves from IPOB.
Wike is killing Biafrans/IPOB members in Obigbo not Igbos please set the record straight or is Biafra only for Igbos now?

Balogunodua:

Now I see how confused you are rest in chronic peace my OSU bloda

Mumu. Are you not the one showing aro juju as gods miracles. Now I see how you ewu Christians deceive people.