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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 7:35pm On Nov 23, 2020
salford:
America is slowly coming back smiley
Biden was not sleepy after all.
Sound and solid cabinet
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Bluebyrd: 7:38pm On Nov 23, 2020
BraniacX:
you can quote technicalities all day long but the bottom line is on this thread and on this particular topic we are all partisan, you posted what they said because you espouse their views not disavow them outright! If they had pulled through with their spurious claims you wouldn't have hesitated to rub it in our faces undecided now that they turned out to be the tripe the rest of us knew it to be in the very beginning we, sorry i don't care to rub it in your face, just your admission that you were wrong once again is all that is required
You can't put words in my mouth and force me to accept the them as mine. if I come here to say I saw someone addressing the press and he or she said he saw aliens invading the earth, it doesn't make it my opinion. I even made it clear on the day I posted those reports that it's up to them to present their evidence for what they were saying before the courts. If you guys were not smart enough to know the difference between reporting what someone else said and endorsing them then you have yourself to blame for that and I don't owe you any apologies for that.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Bluebyrd:
Obrigardo:
Dumb bitch
Manafort supplied polling data and voter information to Russian hackers
Dumb bitch
You are the one that is a dumb bitch!!
Liberal propaganda doesn't equal to facts and the only fact here is that Manafort was convicted for his political activities in Ukraine before he joined the Trump campaign and which had nothing to do with the colluding with Russia to steal the 2016 election. Any other story you are manufacturing and telling is a figment of the imagination of you and your fake news media puppets.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 7:44pm On Nov 23, 2020
LordReed:
What are you saying?
Go and look how Obama won in 1996. He challenge the integrity of his opponents ballot and they grant him access to the ballot to check for irregularities. And the signatures in their ballots was a problem so he won the special election.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Bluebyrd: 7:45pm On Nov 23, 2020
BraniacX:
do you espouse or disavow their views? That was the crux of the matter! I disavow their views and view them as dingbats! You obviously don't disavow them so do you espouse them or not? Mind you there is no fence to sit on or middle ground here undecided
I neither espouse nor disavow them, I reported on what they said and now I am waiting for them to present the evidence they have before making my conclusions.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 7:50pm On Nov 23, 2020
I like Biden's picks so far.

Experienced qualified persons.

Anyway I expect the smearings by Qanuts to begin.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Bluebyrd: 7:51pm On Nov 23, 2020
Obrigardo:
Dumb bitch
Manafort supplied polling data and voter information to Russian hackers
Dumb bitch
Stop being a fool, here's every fact about the trial of Paul Manafort,

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trials_of_Paul_Manafort

Read it and stop being such a dumb bitch!!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 7:53pm On Nov 23, 2020
Biden's rumoured pick for Defense secetary Michele Flournoy is controversial already grin

But why pick John Kerry anyway it is still good cool

James Mattis former defense chief in the Trump administration has told Biden to drop the 'America first' mantra lol grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by vibre: 7:55pm On Nov 23, 2020
AmazonTopaz:
Biden's rumoured pick for Defense secetary Michele Flournoy is controversial already grin

But why pick John Kerry anyway it is still good cool

James Mattis former defense chief in the Trump administration has told Biden to drop the 'America first' mantra lol grin
Does he want it to be other countries first or America last?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 7:56pm On Nov 23, 2020
The next AG has got a lot of work to do.

If it is Sally Yates it will be a big F you to Trump and she will act decisively grin grin

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 7:58pm On Nov 23, 2020
vibre:
Does he want it to be other countries first or America last?
The slogan is an isolationist slogan and does not express the traditional leadership or big brother/sister role America plays around the world.
So get the context right instead of misinterpreting his advice.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 8:06pm On Nov 23, 2020
benalvino2:
Go and look how Obama won in 1996. He challenge the integrity of his opponents ballot and they grant him access to the ballot to check for irregularities. And the signatures in their ballots was a problem so he won the special election.
What did he plead to the court? Has Trump's lawyers asked for this specific relief? Do you think it's the court's duty to give you a relief you didn't even seek at all?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino2(m): 8:09pm On Nov 23, 2020
LordReed:
What did he plead to the court? Has Trump's lawyers asked for this specific relief? Do you think it's the court's duty to give you a relief you didn't even seek at all?
grin grin now you are saying they didn't ask grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by shegzhkn: 8:13pm On Nov 23, 2020
AmazonTopaz:
Biden's rumoured pick for Defense secetary Michele Flournoy is controversial already grin

But why pick John Kerry anyway it is still good cool

James Mattis former defense chief in the Trump administration has told Biden to drop the 'America first' mantra lol grin
Getting pissed already with cabinet pick.

SecDef should be Adm. Bill Harry McRaven
that woman is a war hawk.

Susan Rice as secretary of state but of course that is not happening in GOP controlled senate, in fact nothing is gonna get done with McConnell as Senate Majority Leader. Should have wait till after the Georgia run off in January.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m):
Bluebyrd:
You are a ridiculous liar, Mueller never said he couldn't prove collusion because of obstruction. His report was in two parts,in the first part he focused on collusion and said he couldn't find any evidence of collusion, in the second part, he spoke of obstruction and simply said that the terms of guidelines given to him did not allow him to make any determination on obstruction.
I don't expect any Trump supporter to be intelligent enough to interpret the Mueller Report. Your brain can only accommodate whatever Trump tells you.

The whole Mueller report systematically listed the numerous ways the Trump campaign colluded with Russian agents and officials to help Trump win the election.

Mueller never said he couldn't find any evidence of collusion, that's a lie being sold by Trump and his cult worshippers. What Mueller said was that "the evidence was not sufficient to support criminal charges. Among other things, the
evidence was not sufficient to charge any Campaign official as an unregistered agent of
the Russian government or other Russian principal.
And our evidence about the June 9, 2016 meeting and WikiLeaks s releases
of hacked materials was not sufficient to charge a criminal campaign-finance violation. Further, the evidence was not sufficient to charge that any member of the Trump Campaign conspired with representatives of the Russian government to interfere in the 2016 election"

Saying you don't have sufficient evidence for a criminal charge is not the same as not having any evidence. The evidence might not be sufficient for a criminal charges but sufficient for a civil charge.

Besides Mueller complained of lies and non cooperation from Trump and his campaign.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 8:21pm On Nov 23, 2020
Michigan certification is going on right now.

One redneck GOP guy dey do stronghead there


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDuQquoM4sQ
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:23pm On Nov 23, 2020
shegzhkn:
Getting pissed already with cabinet pick.

SecDef should be Adm. Bill Harry McRaven
that woman is a war hawk.

Susan Rice as secretary of state but of course that is not happening in GOP controlled senate, in fact nothing is gonna get done with McConnell as Senate Majority Leader. Should have wait till after the Georgia run off in January.
I think he will pick the woman you all just accept it if it is so you can't expect him to please everyone he has many more appointments to pick so make una calm down.Also the woman if chosen will follow Biden's orders not hers so don't expect Biden to pick outsiders abeg.I never wanted Susan Rice Blinken is good.
Mcconell won't do shiiit.

Stop taking such fear he won't be as powerful as he was under Trump with a Biden presidency.
Forget that thing Murkowski,Collins and Romney can also assist when need be I won't even be suprised with a Pat Toomey,that republican senator from Ohio and Ben sasse they would be a split they won't all be Mcconell protege's
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 8:28pm On Nov 23, 2020
Ibime:
Michigan certification is going on right now.

One redneck GOP guy dey do stronghead there


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDuQquoM4sQ
The oloriburuku already showing signs he wont certify it before today.He is the one not wearing a mask..Oloshi.We hope the second does while the other two democrats will also certify and then all the 16votes belong to Biden
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:29pm On Nov 23, 2020
Georgia has certified 16 Democratic electors to Washington.


Biden gets Georgia cool

Stacey Abrams and Nikema williams who is the chair of the democratic party of Georgia are both electors.Nikema recently won a house seat in congress

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PDPGuy(op): 8:32pm On Nov 23, 2020
AmazonTopaz:
Biden's rumoured pick for Defense secetary Michele Flournoy is controversial already grin

But why pick John Kerry anyway it is still good cool

James Mattis former defense chief in the Trump administration has told Biden to drop the 'America first' mantra lol grin
She’s controversial because she once criticized the Obama administration for not using enough military force in Syria, and she’s not in favor of pulling out US forces from Afghanistan and Iraq
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m):
happney65:
The oloriburuku already showing signs he wont certify it before today.He is the one not wearing a mask..Oloshi.We hope the second does while the other two democrats will also certify and then all the 16votes belong to Biden
The guy already looks like a racist redneck Trumptard. Non matching ballots is 440 in a State Trump lost by 150k and he is causing a scene.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f):
happney65:
The oloriburuku already showing signs he wont certify it before today.He is the one not wearing a mask..Oloshi.We hope the second does while the other two democrats will also certify and then all the 16votes belong to Biden
The oloriburuku is an idiot when Trump won Michigan in 2016 by 10k votes the democrats in the board certified it oo.

Now Biden won Michigan with 154k votes more than ten times higher than what Trump won 4 years ago in the state and one idiot is busy doing busy body and does not want to certify these people are shameless they want to disenfranchise black voters.I hear the governor can remove the idiot and in Michigan law can face charges just like how that woman in Wayne county and the man Monica palmer and the other one may be investigated afterall she said Trump called her oo.
I trust the AG of Michigan to deal with these idiots
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PDPGuy(op): 8:37pm On Nov 23, 2020
AmazonTopaz:
I think he will pick the woman you all just accept it if it is so you can't expect him to please everyone he has many more appointments to pick so make una calm down.Also the woman if chosen will follow Biden's orders not hers so don't expect Biden to pick outsiders abeg.I never wanted Susan Rice Blinken is good.
Mcconell won't do shiiit.

Stop taking such fear he won't be as powerful as he was under Trump with a Biden presidency.
Forget that thing Murkowski,Collins and Romney can also assist when need be I won't even be suprised with a Pat Toomey,that republican senator from Ohio and Ben sasse they would be a split they won't all be Mcconell protege's
The thing is that it is not 100% certain that McConnell will remain majority leader after January 6 because the Senate could end up in a 50-50 split, especially if the GOP turnout in the Georgia runoffs plummet way below the general election levels.

So, the chances of a Susan Rice confirmation in a 50-50 senate is like 120%, when you consider the fact that it would be VP Harris that would cast any potential tie-breaking vote
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:37pm On Nov 23, 2020
PDPGuy:
She’s controversial because she once criticized the Obama administration for not using enough military force in Syria, and she’s not in favor of pulling out US forces from Afghanistan and Iraq
Yeah so I read.
She is a warmonger nawa grin anyway he has his reasons cheesy for picking her if he does.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PDPGuy(op): 8:38pm On Nov 23, 2020
Anyway, Biden has honed in on Tony Blinken as his SOS pick, so it’s likely that Susan Rice May after all be offered a West Wing position
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Bluebyrd: 8:38pm On Nov 23, 2020
wirinet:
I don't expect any Trump supporter to be intelligent enough to interpret the Mueller Report. Your brain can only accommodate whatever Trump tells you.

The whole Trump report systematically listed the numerous ways the Trump campaign colluded with Russian agents and officials to help Trump win the election.

Mueller never said he couldn't find any evidence of collusion, that's a lie being sold by Trump and his cult worshippers. What Mueller said was that "the evidence was not sufficient to support criminal charges. Among other things, the
evidence was not sufficient to charge any Campaign official as an unregistered agent of
the Russian government or other Russian principal.
And our evidence about the June 9, 2016 meeting and WikiLeaks s releases
of hacked materials was not sufficient to charge a criminal campaign-finance violation. Further, the evidence was not sufficient to charge that any member of the Trump Campaign conspired with representatives of the Russian government to interfere in the 2016 election"

Saying you don't have sufficient evidence for a criminal charge is not the same as not having any evidence. The evidence might not be sufficient for a criminal charges but sufficient for a civil charge.

Besides Mueller complained of lies and non cooperation from Trump and his campaign.
Neither do I expect any liberal to be intelligent enough to read the passage fully to understand what it was really talking about. That was the part of the report where Mueller was making a case of obstruction against certain Trump officials, In the very next paragraphs, he explains what he is talking about and goes on to list the exact lies they told that they were charged for, confirming what I was telling some of your friends earlier. Mueller never at anytime said that those infractions were what made him not to be able to prove any collusion. They found out the truth about each of those so called lies he listed long before they rounded up the investigation and he still couldn't find any collusion after two years. In the first part of that report is where he dealt with collusion and he gave definite report that he didn't find any collusion and he didn't say he didn't find any because he was obstructed. The so called obstruction were people not recalling things exactly how they happened or lying about how they happened. Mueller found out the true version of events eventually and still couldn't find any evidence of collusion and that's why the likes of Stone, Papadopoulos and Flynn were only charged with process crimes.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:45pm On Nov 23, 2020
PDPGuy:
The thing is that it is not 100% certain that McConnell will remain majority leader after January 6 because the Senate could end up in a 50-50 split, especially if the GOP turnout in the Georgia runoffs plummet way below the general election levels.

So, the chances of a Susan Rice confirmation in a 50-50 senate is like 120%, when you consider the fact that it would be VP Harris that would cast any potential tie-breaking vote
This is my hope Trump supporters in Parler are already threatening to boycott and both GOP candidates are controversial too I am sure Warnock can win his I am not too sure about Ossoff but then Ossoff started gaining grounds against Perdue in mid October and took the race to a runoff and that was not expected before so he can win.Anyway whoever holds the majority will be slim one.I thought dems would win Maine and NC I was so disappointed that despite all that money they only won two seats thank God Gary Peters kept his seat The democrats have a lot of work to do and put their sights in 2022.They did not spend those funds wisely and they should put their acts together and curtail the progressives AOC wing because it is obvious Europeans and Canadians are more intelligent than some Americans that is why their policies are not embraced in main stream America.I like their policies though but they should learn to package them instead of fighting with fellow dems.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PDPGuy(op): 8:45pm On Nov 23, 2020
As the race to be Biden’s AG is between Sally Yates and Lisa Monaco, it’s now guaranteed that women will occupy 3 of the first four cabinet positions (AG, Secretary of the Treasury, Secretary of Defense, while Blinken takes the SOS post)
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:46pm On Nov 23, 2020
PDPGuy:
Anyway, Biden has honed in on Tony Blinken as his SOS pick, so it’s likely that Susan Rice May after all be offered a West Wing position
Just like he did for John Kerry that post will not need senate confirmation if he brings Rice onboard.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 8:48pm On Nov 23, 2020
benalvino2:
grin grin now you are saying they didn't ask grin
I asked a question, what specific reliefs did the Trump team seek?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:49pm On Nov 23, 2020
PDPGuy:
As the race to be Biden’s AG is between Sally Yates and Lisa Monaco, it’s now guaranteed that women will occupy 3 of the first four cabinet positions (AG, Secretary of the Treasury, Secretary of Defense, while Blinken takes the SOS post)
Biden is doing well I like it.
Representation matters if it is Sally Yates Trumptards will mourn and Trump is done.

It will be a awesome comeback for her given the fact that Trump fired her.A lot of people are interested in who fills that post so that we will see what Barr has been hiding and if Trump's goose will be roasted or cooked if it is Yates that is for sure.
Read this tweet below

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by shegzhkn: 8:49pm On Nov 23, 2020
AmazonTopaz:
I think he will pick the woman you all just accept it if it is so you can't expect him to please everyone he has many more appointments to pick so make una calm down.Also the woman if chosen will follow Biden's orders not hers so don't expect Biden to pick outsiders abeg.I never wanted Susan Rice Blinken is good.
Mcconell won't do shiiit.

Stop taking such fear he won't be as powerful as he was under Trump with a Biden presidency.
Forget that thing Murkowski,Collins and Romney can also assist when need be I won't even be suprised with a Pat Toomey,that republican senator from Ohio and Ben sasse they would be a split they won't all be Mcconell protege's
Lol, we can't expect to get all our shit done relying of some folks good will.

Who are the outsider ?? i don't get .
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