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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 10:46am On Nov 24, 2020
Correct guy, if Osigwe get sense, e go follow am





Subzero047:
Tobias Lawal has pledged his allegiance to Austria
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:47am On Nov 24, 2020
12large1:
if there is one thing to bank on Rohr is Qualification for a Major tournament. My problem with him is can he get us to Win a tournament as in 1st? Can he make tactical changes at the right time or timely substitution? Anyway, those things are not documented on his contract
Lol who else has he qualified to a major tournament? We made Gernot Rohr. Nobody even mentions his other exploits on the continent cuz there are none
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by 12large1: 10:48am On Nov 24, 2020
do4luv14:
I dont understand this our goalkeeper talk again ehn? Wetin una want sef?


The question should be do we have a reliable first choice keeper, before the coming of Uzoho, then Maduka, anybody for either of them to battle the numero uno spot with?
They're upset that "okoye" didn't follow due process before getting that number 1 shirt as he came directly from division 3 to Nigeria 1 with the assistance of "oma akatugba". Usually, when you're coming from a lower league, you have to prove yourself at u20, 23 before debuting for SE.But, there wasn't many available options and to be fair to okoye, he has represented himself well thus far which means Rohr feels justified at his selection. I think their complain is 50/50 Valid
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 10:51am On Nov 24, 2020
Subzero047:
Tobias Lawal has pledged his allegiance to Austria
bad. Source pls?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 10:53am On Nov 24, 2020
busky007:
Exactly. But Nigerians tend to suffer from selective amnesia. I could remember 2016,how Nigerians were begging God for just Afcon qualification. Like Afcon became like World cup to us. See trolling from all African countries. Then Rohr came and did it within two years. If the team is qualifying for competitions , then with time, we will win. This is just less than 4 years in his reign but he has qualified us for all competition , you will now be hearing people saying "the talented best team" , "a whole Nigeria", "a whole Super Eagles". Then have forgotten their pre 2017 heart attacks.
They compare themselves with Algeria but forget that they have basically the same squad in the last 5 years and has been appearing at Afcon yet they didn't qualify for world cup. Rohr is working with his resources and I know he will come good.


But if he is sacked, I still stand behind the team but lemme see anyone who will criticise any local coach about being tactically clueless or corrupt
we overrate our squad a lot. When we're playing, we don't look at other people's squad too. For example, Tunisia players are playing at decent European clubs. A few are playing at the best clubs in africa.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by 12large1: 10:55am On Nov 24, 2020
BascoVanVeli:
Lol who else has he qualified to a major tournament? We made Gernot Rohr. Nobody even mentions his other exploits on the continent cuz there are none
cut it. I We didn't make him neither did he made us. It was a 50/50 combination. Remember, we failed to Qualify for 2 major tournaments Prior to Rohr hiring in 2016 and many felt we won't even Qualify for 2018 WC. The man improved us tremendously but I cannot trust him to defeat Algeria, Senegal and win ANC or his tactical substitution at important Games. We might need a world class coach to win us ANC but what justifiable reason do we have to sack Rohr when he met his precontratual agreement and what guarantees do you think that NFL can hire a "World class" coach. We don't want another 2015/17 Debacle
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:55am On Nov 24, 2020
12large1:
if there is one thing to bank on Rohr is Qualification for a Major tournament. My problem with him is can he get us to Win a tournament as in 1st? Can he make tactical changes at the right time or timely substitution? Anyway, those things are not documented on his contract
Rohr has only qualified us for two major tournaments..
it isn't enough reason to "bank on him" yet..Keshi qualified us for two major tournaments back to back but failed in his 3rd attempt... Even Amodu...
And of course,they were both fired...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 10:56am On Nov 24, 2020
Danielnino00:
Rohr has only qualified us for two major tournaments..
it isn't enough reason to "bank on him" yet..Keshi qualified us for two major tournaments back to back but failed in his 3rd attempt... Even Amodu...
And of course,they were both fired...
So has Rohr failed?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by 12large1:
JohnBullMySon:
we overrate our squad a lot. When we're playing, we don't look at other people's squad too. For example, Tunisia players are playing at decent European clubs. A few are playing at the best clubs in africa.
i used to think that before but not anymore. We have a pool of Talented Guys enough to win ANC as long as a proven Winner/Tactician is on that bench. Remember, this is a team that still has Ejaria, Lookman, ehizubue and possibly eze yet to Feature. In addition to it, experienced proven players like Ighalo and Victor Moses are still playing active football and can put in a shift assuming they're convinced to come out of retirement
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:59am On Nov 24, 2020
JohnBullMySon:
So has Rohr failed?
He is being pampered.. Amodu and Keshi didn't get that opportunity... In comparison to the late duo, yes,he has failed!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:00am On Nov 24, 2020
andrewbaba44:
I don’t think we will find it easier like the last time

We hope for the best
Nigeria got lucky against Algeria in Uyo. Without some unforgivable finishes Algeria would have beat us 5-3.

Zambia is a country that we will always be expected to beat. Plus that was right when they were about to make their transition into fashion sakala and the rest of their U20 boys. We just caught them at the right time. U can see how hard it was for us in the second leg, they even scored a clean goal that was cancelled.

Beating Cameroon never has anything to do with tactics on the day. It is a match fueled by passion and history.

Once the WCQ was over what did we see? Rohr has been exposed over and over again as in over his head but people are still defending him to my amazement. This man was out coached and out witted by a Sierra Leonian home and away.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by busky007: 11:01am On Nov 24, 2020
JohnBullMySon:
we overrate our squad a lot. When we're playing, we don't look at other people's squad too. For example, Tunisia players are playing at decent European clubs. A few are playing at the best clubs in africa.
They will never agree to this although they had an argument yesterday which showed how far we go to praise a player who shows little flashes of brilliance. Only Oshimen, Ndidi , Chukwueze and Iwobi(who is experiencing a resurgence) are our correct players.The rest are just there. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 11:01am On Nov 24, 2020
12large1:
cut it. I We didn't make him neither did he made us. It was a 50/50 combination. Remember, we failed to Qualify for 2 major tournaments Prior to Rohr hiring in 2016 and many felt we won't even Qualify for 2018 WC. The man improved us tremendously but I cannot trust him to defeat Algeria, Senegal and win ANC or his tactical substitution at important Games. We might need a world class coach to win us ANC but what justifiable reason do we have to sack Rohr when he met his precontratual agreement and what guarantees do you think that NFL can hire a "World class" coach. We don't want another 2015/17 Debacle
world class coach may change nothing. This is national team not club where a world class manager comes and starts buying good players. In the NT you are only as good as your players are. You only do a little amount to change things. I hope Rohr goes soon so that we can see how average we are. The way people are talking, you will think that we have won the world cup before.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by busky007: 11:02am On Nov 24, 2020
12large1:
i used to think that before but not anymore. We have a pool of [i]Talented Guys[/i] enough to win ANC as long as a proven Winner/Tactician is on that bench. Remember, this is a team that still has Ejaria, Lookman, ehizubue and possibly eze yet to Feature. In addition to it, experienced proven players like Ighalo and Victor Moses are still playing active football and can put in a shift.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by 12large1: 11:03am On Nov 24, 2020
Amodu to me was unfairly treated and we made the wrong decision by sacking him but that doesn't mean that we should continue making horrible coaching decisions. As for Big Boss (Rip King) he was duly Sacked for Failing to Qualify for "Ordinary Nations cup" remember keshi didn't get sacked After Anc or Wc but immediately after he failed to Qualify for "Ordinary ANC" (Our birthright) that was justifiable. As for me, I follow "pre contractual documents" not sentimental or emotional reasons
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:03am On Nov 24, 2020
JohnBullMySon:
we overrate our squad a lot. When we're playing, we don't look at other people's squad too. For example, Tunisia players are playing at decent European clubs. A few are playing at the best clubs in africa.
The bolded is the lie you tell yourself everyday to find a means to justify Rohr's unnecessarily continuous stay with the team..
We don't overrate our squad.. We can boost of a starting eleven of players playing in Europe top 10 leagues..a lot of the are starters.. A lot of them put in decent shifts for their clubs every week..Not many countries in Africa can boost of that..Heck, our squad is even more valuable than some of those teams ahead of us in the FIFA ranking... How good was our squad when Keshi used it to win the world cup and reached the round of 16 of the world cup?
How good was the Egyptian squad that won 3 straight AFCON??
If Rohr is so good, how come he didn't achieve anything tangible before getting the super eagles job?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by busky007: 11:05am On Nov 24, 2020
12large1:
cut it. I We didn't make him neither did he made us. It was a 50/50 combination. Remember, we failed to Qualify for 2 major tournaments Prior to Rohr hiring in 2016 and many felt we won't even Qualify for 2018 WC. The man improved us tremendously but I cannot trust him to defeat [[i]b]Algeria, Senega[/i][/b]l and win ANC or his tactical substitution at important Games. We might need a world class coach to win us ANC but what justifiable reason do we have to sack Rohr when he met his precontratual agreement and what guarantees do you think that NFL can hire a "World class" coach. We don't want another 2015/17 Debacle
Are these countries not better than us ? Or is it going to be a case of Nigeria is better than England all over again?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m):
BascoVanVeli:
Lol who else has he qualified to a major tournament? We made Gernot Rohr. Nobody even mentions his other exploits on the continent cuz there are none
Keshi coached a small Togo team and qualifed them for the world cup lol.. He coached Mali and took them to the AFCON..
Rohr couldn't do jackshit with Niger and Gabon..
Now,he is in a team with much better players and is winning and his praise singers want us to believe that he came to save us..lol...Nah, we are the one saving him..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by busky007: 11:08am On Nov 24, 2020
Danielnino00:
Keshi coached a small Togo team and qualifed them for the world cup lol.. He coached Mali and took them to the world cup..
Rohr couldn't do jackshit with Niger and Gabon..
Now,he is in a team with much better players and is winning and his praise singers want us to believe that he came to save us..lol...Nah, we are the one saving him..
when a coach loses , it is his fault but when the team wins , the team is saving the coach's job

Ridiculous sentimental judgements
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 11:08am On Nov 24, 2020
Danielnino00:
He is being pampered.. Amodu and Keshi didn't get that opportunity... In comparison to the late duo, yes,he has failed!
LOL grin, okay oh. If all of you that hate Rohr can collectively sell all you have and give the money to NFF, then Rohr will be sacked. Because, you don hear am from pinnick mouth, money no dey grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by 12large1: 11:10am On Nov 24, 2020
busky007:
They will never agree to this although they had an argument yesterday which showed how far we go to praise a player who shows little flashes of brilliance. Only Oshimen, Ndidi , Chukwueze and Iwobi(who is experiencing a resurgence) are our correct players.The rest are just there. grin
very invalid/Inaccurate Statement. Pound for pound, Algeria Don't have a better Squad than Us but their present Coach made a huge difference at them winning ANC. Pound for Pound, Senegal has the strongest 11 but not the strongest Team.

Top 4 most talented11 (pound for pound) now in africa (my opinion) and based on market value
1) Senegal
2) nigeria
3) ivory coast
4) Algeria

Best Team currently in Africa

1) Algeria
2) Senegal
3) Nigeria
4) Tunisia

A great Tactician can make a big difference from Semi final and winning ANC. You can't keep saying "you have a young team" indirectly conceding defeat anytime you come across a strong opponent and expect to WIN
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 11:10am On Nov 24, 2020
So the Uzoho that came and took from Ezewan, nah division 1, he came from?

Even Osigwe who some are rooting for too, whernce was he from?





12large1:
They're upset that "okoye" didn't follow due process before getting that number 1 shirt as he came directly from division 3 to Nigeria 1 with the assistance of "oma akatugba". Usually, when you're coming from a lower league, you have to prove yourself at u20, 23 before debuting for SE.But, there wasn't many available options and to be fair to okoye, he has represented himself well thus far which means Rohr feels justified at his selection. I think their complain is 50/50 Valid
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by 12large1: 11:13am On Nov 24, 2020
do4luv14:
So the Uzoho that came and took from Ezewan, nah division 1, he came from?

Even Osigwe who some are rooting for too, whernce was he from?
Yea uzoho remember "Debuted" at "La liga" (top 3 league in the world) prior to playing for SE despite the fact that he was registered officially at the Segunda. He still debuted at La liga thats how we even got his attention and at that time, Akpeyi and ezenwa wasn't given us confident Vibes.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:16am On Nov 24, 2020
JohnBullMySon:
LOL grin, okay oh. If all of you that hate Rohr can collectively sell all you have and give the money to NFF, then Rohr will be sacked. Because, you don hear am from pinnick mouth, money no dey grin
I don't hate anybody.. But unlike some people,I don't settle for mediocrity.. When you know your worth, you won't allow anybody to belittle you...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 11:16am On Nov 24, 2020
During the Amodu, and Keshi time, we dont have a NFF, the ones we had, are owembe and estaacod wanna be fellas, from their presido, to the last of them


friendly was had to come by, always waiting weeks to a qualifier to appoint a coach, infact leeme end here abeg





12large1:
Amodu to me was unfairly treated and we made the wrong decision by sacking him but that doesn't mean that we should continue making horrible coaching decisions. As for Big Boss (Rip King) he was duly Sacked for Failing to Qualify for "Ordinary Nations cup" remember keshi didn't get sacked After Anc or Wc but immediately after he failed to Qualify for "Ordinary ANC" (Our birthright) that was justifiable. As for me, I follow "pre contractual documents" not sentimental or emotional reasons
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:17am On Nov 24, 2020
busky007:
when a coach loses , it is his fault but when the team wins , the team is saving the coach's job

Ridiculous sentimental judgements
For a tactically deficit coach like Rohr, it is true...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 11:19am On Nov 24, 2020
Danielnino00:
Keshi coached a small Togo team and qualifed them for the world cup lol.. He coached Mali and took them to the world cup..
Rohr couldn't do jackshit with Niger and Gabon..
Now,he is in a team with much better players and is winning and his praise singers want us to believe that he came to save us..lol...Nah, we are the one saving him..
Why una dey talk rubbish like this na, which world cup did togo and mali go to under Keshi? togo have gone to the world cup once under a German coach in 2006. Mali has never been to the world cup. Las Las you dey very funny oh grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by 12large1: 11:22am On Nov 24, 2020
Danielnino00:
I don't hate anybody.. But unlike some people,I don't settle for mediocrity.. When you know your worth, you won't allow anybody to belittle you...
yes it is a complicated issue. On paper, he has met his contractual agreement so no justifiable reason for termination but has he shown the capability to Be "1" the answer to me is ("No"wink but we also don't want to Hire another coach that will make SE regress. 2015/17 is still on my mind. The thought of Oliseh selecting the likes of Onobi to bench Mikel or beefing with senior members of his team just few months after selection or even Dumping SE 3 days prior to a match is still fresh
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 11:22am On Nov 24, 2020
Danielnino00:
I don't hate anybody.. But unlike some people,I don't settle for mediocrity.. When you know your worth, you won't allow anybody to belittle you...
grin grin no worry you go know your worth after indeginous coach don arrive.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 11:23am On Nov 24, 2020
Fact is, he was a secunda player, he debuting for the First team, is due to the first team keeper role, being stratched,

hence he going out on loan, after a new keeper arrive






12large1:
Yea uzoho remember "Debuted" at "La liga" (top 3 league in the world) prior to playing for SE despite the fact that he was registered officially at the Segunda. He still debuted at La liga thats how we even got his attention and at that time, Akpeyi and ezenwa wasn't given us confident Vibes.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 11:24am On Nov 24, 2020
12large1:
yes it is a complicated issue. On paper, he has met his contractual agreement so no justifiable reason for termination but has he shown the capability to Be "1" the answer to me is ("No"wink but we also don't want to Hire another coach that will make SE regress. 2015/17 is still on my mind. The thought of Oliseh selecting the likes of Onobi to bench Mikel or beefing with senior members of his team just few months after selection or even Dumbing SE 3 days prior to a match is still fresh
leave am, the same person that said that Keshi took mali and togo to world cup grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by elyte89: 11:24am On Nov 24, 2020
12large1:
Amodu to me was unfairly treated and we made the wrong decision by sacking him but that doesn't mean that we should continue making horrible coaching decisions. As for Big Boss (Rip King) he was duly Sacked for Failing to Qualify for "Ordinary Nations cup" remember keshi didn't get sacked After Anc or Wc but immediately after he failed to Qualify for "Ordinary ANC" (Our birthright) that was justifiable. As for me, I follow "pre contractual documents" not sentimental or emotional reasons
It is not emotional or sentimental..rohr was paid for what he did,all what he has achieved up till today is not exceptional because such feat has been achieved over time or even better with indigenous coaches;in respect to keshi and amodu... @ dis moment he has done his best,nothing more,he needs Nigeria more Dan we need him.. Fact cool

Abi what's d essence of wasting tax payers money when its glaring dt he can't win afcon or get to d quarterfinals stage of d world cup.. We deserve better bro cool
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