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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by 12large1: 1:53pm On Nov 24, 2020
Olulong:
So if we what to beat are we not expected to beat the best??. Ivory Coast were better than us at the 2013 Afcon, didn't we beat them.

And the same Algeria you're talking about are weaker than they were(talent/player wise) when we beat them in 2016. Buh good coaching has made them a way better team than they were then.

Just to remind you they came into the AFCON ranked 68, 23 places below us in the FIFA Ranking.Fast forward to over a year they've beaten us twice and are now ranked above us that's what good coaching can do.

Their starting 11 that beat us had 3 players playing in the middle east, one in esperance, One at Nottingham Forest and another for relegated Italian side empoli. So on the basis of player quality going to that match we were balanced but we both know what they did to us.

You don't need messi and ronaldo to win AFCON. I'll say this anywhere we have a good enough squad to win the AFCON. We beat Ivory Coast with Mba,Oboabona,Relatively unknown Omeruo and Onazi. So all this they're better than us is just a flimsy excuse trying to justify an incompetent coach
Fact not feelings
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Olulong(m): 2:11pm On Nov 24, 2020
JohnBullMySon:
world class coach may change nothing. This is national team not club where a world class manager comes and starts buying good players. In the NT you are only as good as your players are. You only do a little amount to change things. I hope Rohr goes soon so that we can see how average we are. The way people are talking, you will think that we have won the world cup before.
So because we're average it justifies losing to Madagascar and Bottling a four lead against Sierra Leone or going winless in a calendar year, doesn't it??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Olulong(m): 2:15pm On Nov 24, 2020
Subzero047:
Tobias Lawal has pledged his allegiance to Austria
He probably watched the game we played in Sierra Leone grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Olulong(m): 2:22pm On Nov 24, 2020
12large1:
very invalid/Inaccurate Statement. Pound for pound, Algeria Don't have a better Squad than Us but their present Coach made a huge difference at them winning ANC. Pound for Pound, Senegal has the strongest 11 but not the strongest Team.

Top 4 most talented11 (pound for pound) now in africa (my opinion) and based on market value
1) Senegal
2) nigeria
3) ivory coast
4) Algeria

Best Team currently in Africa

1) Algeria
2) Senegal
3) Nigeria
4) Tunisia

A great Tactician can make a big difference from Semi final and winning ANC. You can't keep saying "you have a young team" indirectly conceding defeat anytime you come across a strong opponent and expect to WIN
I gave up on the man after watching his interview before the second leg against Sierra Leone. Imagine him saying in his one words " our players don't have the mentality for a game like this"

A couple of this guys play in the Europa League, a few in UEL, yet they don't have the mentality to face ALMIGHTY SIERRA LEONE
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:23pm On Nov 24, 2020
jihday:
He didn't, he was given the number 1
He was not given as he fought for it with Ezenwa and akpeyi

I can remember akpeyi doing nonsense in the argentine friendly at first half and uzoho got his chance at second half

No matter how you guys try to twist it Maduka didn’t fight for his shirt ,he was dashed the shirt by gernot rohr
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:24pm On Nov 24, 2020
isan:
Well i don't see uzoho getting his shirt not like he's a world beater himself
As if your others GK are even close to street beaters grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:35pm On Nov 24, 2020
JohnBullMySon:
maduka is also in good form himself. The thing is that players always get dropped suddenly from their spots. It did not start with uzoho. Maduka himself will be dropped if a better in form keeper comes or if uzoho is performimg better at club side.
Wow

Please explain a goalkeeper with good form ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Olulong(m): 2:47pm On Nov 24, 2020
andrewbaba44:
Wow

Please explain a goalkeeper with good form ?
2 clean sheet in the last 3 games is a bit of form
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:56pm On Nov 24, 2020
i'm surprised you left out Morocco.

pound for pound Senegal, Morocco and Algeria are ahead of us. Ivory Coast is roughly on the same talent level as us with Mali and Ghana not far behind

12large1:
Bro, pound for Pound, Algeria and Tunisia dosen't have a better pool of talented 11 than Us.
Most talented 11 pound for pound on paper in Africa

1) Senegal
2) Nigeria
3) Algeria/Ivory coast

Best team in Africa right now
1) Algeria
2) Senegal
3) Nigeria

A Good coach can make a huge difference from 3rd to 1st place
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 3:01pm On Nov 24, 2020
Olulong:
So if we want to be the best are we not expected to beat the best??. Ivory Coast were better than us at the 2013 Afcon, didn't we beat them??

And the same Algeria you're talking about are weaker than they were(talent/player wise) when we beat them in 2016. Buh good coaching has made them a way better team than they were then.

Just to remind you they came into the AFCON ranked 68, 23 places below us in the FIFA Ranking.Fast forward to over a year they've beaten us twice and are now ranked above us that's what good coaching can do.

Their starting 11 that beat us had 3 players playing in the middle east, one in esperance, One at Nottingham Forest and another for relegated Italian side empoli. So on the basis of player quality going to that match we were balanced but we both know what they did to us.

You don't need messi and ronaldo to win AFCON. I'll say this anywhere we have a good enough squad to win the AFCON. We beat Ivory Coast with Mba,Oboabona,Relatively unknown Omeruo and Onazi. So all this they're better than us is just a flimsy excuse trying to justify an incompetent coach
Increase the volume please!!

That busky guy even surprises me cus he is a Liverpool fan..
He knew how poor our squad during Rodgers last season with the club was..Then Klopp came in and took that same squad to two cup finals..

But he is here defending Rohr... Smh!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 3:03pm On Nov 24, 2020
Olulong:
I gave up on the man after watching his interview before the second leg against Sierra Leone. Imagine him saying in his one words " our players don't have the mentality for a game like this"

A couple of this guys play in the Europa League, a few in UEL, yet they don't have the mentality to face ALMIGHTY SIERRA LEONE
I swear..The man has a way of killing the team spirit during pre match interviews in the name of playing mind games .
Imagine at the AFCON he said Osimhen and Onyekuru weren't being played because they aren't physically strong enough!
SMH!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chrisooblog:
Haba Basco you are better than this na!

how can you say we were lucky against Algeria in Uyo so the 3 goals we scored were a fluke? Algeria like any top side came at us and we neutralized them and scored? how is that luck?

So should we now use that logic to disparage Keshi for winning AFCON and getting to 2nd round of WC? after all in AFCON we were lucky against Ethiopia, In the WC we were lucky Dzeko's goal against us was wrongly ruled out as offside and ours wasn't called a foul.

Amodu too was lucky Ghana beat Liberia away for 2002, was lucky Mozambique beat Tunisia at home for 2010, for AFCON 2010 we were also lucky Zambia didn't beat us in the quarterfinal after dominating us throughout the match.

so all the local coaches that you mentioned also had slices of good fortune but we don't use that to downgrade their achievements

BascoVanVeli:
Nigeria got lucky against Algeria in Uyo. Without some unforgivable finishes Algeria would have beat us 5-3.

Zambia is a country that we will always be expected to beat. Plus that was right when they were about to make their transition into fashion sakala and the rest of their U20 boys. We just caught them at the right time. U can see how hard it was for us in the second leg, they even scored a clean goal that was cancelled.

Beating Cameroon never has anything to do with tactics on the day. It is a match fueled by passion and history.

Once the WCQ was over what did we see? Rohr has been exposed over and over again as in over his head but people are still defending him to my amazement. This man was out coached and out witted by a Sierra Leonian home and away.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Strugglingman: 3:14pm On Nov 24, 2020
temi1290:
How did Eze manage to play against his own club?
Lol

The thing self tire me

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Strugglingman: 3:15pm On Nov 24, 2020
Philosopher1979:
You are right. It was a political decision. I mean i doubt he is better than francis Uzoho and Mathew Yakubu.
Rohr just likes him thats all. It is partiality
Hmmm..una don start
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Strugglingman: 3:16pm On Nov 24, 2020
feelme2020:
I may be wrong but the Onuachu i see for the super eagles cannot do anything with the ball at his feet.
If you give him a pass, he cannot pass back and make a one two.
If you remember Iwobi's goal against Cameroon, he passed to Ighalo and ighalo passed back to him and then he scored.
If it is Onuachu he will not pass back and will simply loose the ball.
His ball passing and progression is very poor.
Maybe it is different at his club.
I dont think he can shoot accurately in the box 18 or convert low crosses.
He is not also mobile and aggresive as in he does not press and his speed is not exceptional.
Apart from air balls, what other strenghts does he have
If I was onuachu ..even if I get a super eagles invite again,I won't come.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Olulong(m): 3:18pm On Nov 24, 2020
chrisooblog:
i'm surprised you left out Morocco.

pound for pound Senegal, Morocco and Algeria are ahead of us. Ivory Coast is roughly on the same talent level as us with Mali and Ghana not far behind
Ghana??

Like Black stars of Ghana??

Like our brothers??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 3:22pm On Nov 24, 2020
Olulong:
2 clean sheet in the last 3 games is a bit of form
What about last 5 games ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Strugglingman: 3:23pm On Nov 24, 2020
12large1:
it isn't the same. Infact, Akpeyi should slap himself for allowing a 19 year old to grab that shirt in uzoho absence. Remember that Nigerians wanted Akpeyi out of SE before and after ANC due to his unstababiblity. Although, I think akpeyi did OK at ANC and o wouldn't blame him for that Algeria loss but Okoye seem more comfortable than him For SE. For me, when everyone is fit and Available
1) Uzoho
2) Okoye
3) Akpeyi/osigwe/Yakubu
*Rohr doesn't like short goalies* thats why yakubu hasn't been given a chance but he looks impressive on youtube
If he doesn't like short goalies ..then why invite one?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 3:39pm On Nov 24, 2020
chrisooblog:
Haba Basco you are better than this na!

how can you say we were lucky against Algeria in Uyo so the 3 goals we scored were a fluke? Algeria like any top side came at us and we neutralized them and scored? how is that luck?

So should we now use that logic to disparage Keshi for winning AFCON and getting to 2nd round of WC? after all in AFCON we were lucky against Ethiopia, In the WC we were lucky Dzeko's goal against us was wrongly ruled out as offside and ours wasn't called a foul.

Amodu too was lucky Ghana beat Liberia away for 2002, was lucky Mozambique beat Tunisia at home for 2006, for AFCON 2010 we were also lucky Zambia didn't beat us in the quarterfinal after dominating us throughout the match.

so all the local coaches that you mentioned also had slices of good fortune but we don't use that to downgrade their achievements
that guy no like any thing foreign oh. If I'm type become coach, anything not born and bred in naija will be shown the door.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 3:48pm On Nov 24, 2020
feelme2020:
I may be wrong but the Onuachu i see for the super eagles cannot do anything with the ball at his feet.
If you give him a pass, he cannot pass back and make a one two.
If you remember Iwobi's goal against Cameroon, he passed to Ighalo and ighalo passed back to him and then he scored.
If it is Onuachu he will not pass back and will simply loose the ball.
His ball passing and progression is very poor.
Maybe it is different at his club.
I dont think he can shoot accurately in the box 18 or convert low crosses.
He is not also mobile and aggresive as in he does not press and his speed is not exceptional.
Apart from air balls, what other strenghts does he have
can you defend this statements with video evidences or did you just type what you think? Onuachu ball passing? How many times has the ball been passed to him that he lost? How many minutes has he played and how many touches to justify all this?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by DrKlever(m): 3:56pm On Nov 24, 2020
chrisooblog:
i'm surprised you left out Morocco.

pound for pound Senegal, Morocco and Algeria are ahead of us. Ivory Coast is roughly on the same talent level as us with Mali and Ghana not far behind
which Ghana is not far behind? Although i agree that Senegal and Morocco are ahead of us.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Olulong(m): 4:23pm On Nov 24, 2020
andrewbaba44:
What about last 5 games ?
Lol. Why u dey do like this oga Andy grin.

He has only 4 games as a professional. And two of those he has kept a clean sheet, that's not bad
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Olulong(m): 4:24pm On Nov 24, 2020
Danielnino00:
I swear..The man has a way of killing the team spirit during pre match interviews in the name of playing mind games .
Imagine at the AFCON he said Osimhen and Onyekuru weren't being played because they aren't physically strong enough!
SMH!
Like I'm tired of that man already
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 4:37pm On Nov 24, 2020
Olulong:
Lol. Why u dey do like this oga Andy grin.

He has only 4 games as a professional. And two of those he has kept a clean sheet, that's not bad
Lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by isan(m): 4:49pm On Nov 24, 2020
Since enyeama left we have always stick someone there and hope for the best
andrewbaba44:
As if your others GK are even close to street beaters grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by busky007: 6:42pm On Nov 24, 2020
JohnBullMySon:
that guy no like any thing foreign oh. If I'm type become coach, anything not born and bred in naija will be shown the door.
My guy you understand wella.
He is simply doing his job as an agent . Nothing more. He also needs money for Christmas so they have to call up his client jare grin grin

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Edopesin: 6:46pm On Nov 24, 2020
Olulong:
So if we want to be the best are we not expected to beat the best??. Ivory Coast were better than us at the 2013 Afcon, didn't we beat them??

And the same Algeria you're talking about are weaker than they were(talent/player wise) when we beat them in 2016. Buh good coaching has made them a way better team than they were then.

Just to remind you they came into the AFCON ranked 68, 23 places below us in the FIFA Ranking.Fast forward to over a year they've beaten us twice and are now ranked above us that's what good coaching can do.

Their starting 11 that beat us had 3 players playing in the middle east, one in esperance, One at Nottingham Forest and another for relegated Italian side empoli. So on the basis of player quality going to that match we were balanced but we both know what they did to us.

You don't need messi and ronaldo to win AFCON. I'll say this anywhere we have a good enough squad to win the AFCON. We beat Ivory Coast with Mba,Oboabona,Relatively unknown Omeruo and Onazi. So all this they're better than us is just a flimsy excuse trying to justify an incompetent coach
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by fabyom: 6:48pm On Nov 24, 2020
Please how are Senegal, Morrocco, and Algeria ahead of us. Can you list the clubs their players play for? Pound for Pound, Club for Club no country in Africa is ahead of us.
chrisooblog:
i'm surprised you left out Morocco.

pound for pound Senegal, Morocco and Algeria are ahead of us. Ivory Coast is roughly on the same talent level as us with Mali and Ghana not far behind
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 6:58pm On Nov 24, 2020
As seen

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Famocious(m): 7:08pm On Nov 24, 2020
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chrisooblog: 7:14pm On Nov 24, 2020
Morocco has Ziyech and Hakimi. Their number 1 GK plays for Sevilla.

Senegal has 2 GK that play for top clubs in france and england. Koulibaly is better than every defender we have at the moment. Sadio Mane is better than all the forwards we have.

Algeria has a solid GK plays in france. Mahrez better than any winger we have at the moment. Bennacer that plays for AC Milan better than any CM we currently parade.

All this i've mentioned of the top of my mind so please enlighten me how are they not ahead of us?




fabyom:
Please how are Senegal, Morrocco, and Algeria ahead of us. Can you list the clubs their players play for? Pound for Pound, Club for Club no country in Africa is ahead of us.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by elyte89: 7:16pm On Nov 24, 2020
To whom it may concern...d NFF is not ready to sack rohr cool @olulong, @danielninho 00..we re in for a long thing

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