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Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by MetaPhysical: 2:04pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
AmuDimpka: You call Aro history a bullshit? Ahhh 1 Like |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by Blackking98(m): 3:42pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
AmuDimpka:Lol I know many igbos that can speak ibibio fluently and vice versa. It's a good thing |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by ChinenyeN(m): 3:50pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
pazienza: Ngwa was not coined from “ngwa ngwa”. See, this is how stories get distorted and people start claiming/believing Ngwa is from Umunneoha. The same Umunneoha that was only founded during the later part of the Portuguese era, making them younger than Ngwa. Ngwa originally shared an autochthonous tradition with Ohuhu that they were created by Chileke Ohna. That Imo tale is an allegory to explain how the landmass was separated and our ethnonyms. Also, for the record, "ngwa" was not coined from "feather". In fact, the Ibibio and Annang word I know for "feather" is "ntaang", unless I don't know well, or there is an obscure dialect I'm unaware of. @topic Ngwa occupied most of the region without any contact with Ibibio or Annang for centuries. The clashes that occurred happened after the Portuguese era. It was an on and off thing for centuries that eventually led to the establishment of a “no man’s land” zone between Ngwa and Annang/Ibibio. The reason for the clashes is that Annang wanted to expand. Prior to this forceful attempt at a secondary expansion, Annang and Ibibio etc were trading and interacting just fine at markets like Ohia Ukwu in Ohanze. As a result of the open trade legacy, there are some Annang and Ibibio who settlted and are now naturalized Ngwa. Also, many of us Ngwa in the former Obioma Ngwa area speak Ibibio and/or Annang as second languages. Annang's later attempt at forceful expansion was not met well by indigenous and naturalized Ngwa. By this time, Ikheohna and Uduagha militaristic mindset was well-developed. It was a relatively easy thing to push Annang back. I'm inclined to believe that this history is where the main confusion is. British anthropologist or colonial officers like G. I. Jones made a great many assumptions, without asking the right questions. Yes, eastern Ngwa can be thought of as a fusion of Annang/Ibibio and Ngwa people. However, Jones and his fellow countrymen took it too far and assumed that the Ibeme and Mgbọkọ communities were the root of the fusion and that they were Ibibio, when they in fact were not and are not. If they had asked the right questions, they would have learned that Ibeme migrated from within or near the Ohambele community within Ikwueke clan in present day Ndoki, and that the Mgbọkọ are an offshoot from Abala Ibeme. Anyhow, long story short, Atouke, the information that you are trying to base your claim off of does not seem to be well-founded. Perhaps do some more holistic research. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by AmuDimpka: 7:48pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
Blackking98:yes 1 Like |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by AmuDimpka: 7:48pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
MetaPhysical:whatever |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by chimezieeze98: 8:08am On Jan 15, 2020 |
[url][/url] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTBcYBwBZnI |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by comfokon: 4:59pm On Nov 23, 2020 |
RedboneSmith: They are not Igbo villages, they came in as settlers, don't distort the truth. |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by comfokon: 5:04pm On Nov 23, 2020 |
AmuDimpka: who gave you that distorted history that we migrated from there? the truth you Igbos are hard to face is that you are truly not an ethnicity save for the Imo people. you're mostly a mash up of different ethnicities combined. that's why you don't have a uniform culture. |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by comfokon: 5:06pm On Nov 23, 2020 |
MetaPhysical: It's not nonsense, it's the truth. A large part of Abia State were Ibibio land. your ancestors came as traders and begged to settle. the history is there and not hidden. |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by comfokon: 5:11pm On Nov 23, 2020 |
AmuDimpka: They never enslaved them, the way Igbo language is with different dialects, is the same with Ibibio but the whole see themselves an igbo. That was quite different in Ibibio, there is even a proverb that Ibibio doesn't recognise its own, that's why the oron and annang, even if they are from the Ibibio always see themselves to an extent different. The Igbo's came to arochukwu as usual to do business, they saw there was rivalry between step sons and used that opportunity to take over the place with the cooperation of the rivalling step son, some of the Ibibio people stayed back and others left. You guys are known for land grabbing, even the people claiming Igbo in Akwa Ibom are settlers, the entire azumini river was Ibibio land, if not for the creation of Nigeria, the entire Akwa Ibom would have been Igbo land, they would come as traders and later start fighting for power. It was the same style Jaja used to collect territories. It's so funny today that Bonny that was a popular trade place for the british and was known for enslaving Igbo people is today being claimed as an Igbo land. You guys could be so funny. same with Igala land. |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by AmuDimpka: 7:11pm On Nov 23, 2020 |
comfokon: The history of Aro confederacy is there and we know that ibibio are migrants and we're defeated in Aro chased away .. that's why Aro is callers Okigbo (great igbo today ) go and ask around and stop fooling around 3 Likes |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by AmuDimpka: 7:11pm On Nov 23, 2020 |
comfokon:go and read yo and ask up |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by comfokon: 5:54am On Nov 24, 2020 |
AmuDimpka: Even Aro's wouldn,t give you that shit. The history is everywhere. |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by comfokon: 5:56am On Nov 24, 2020 |
AmuDimpka:you're the one fooling yourself, just a simple google search would give the true story of what happened. by the way, a large percentage of the Ibibibo's remained and that's why their culture is still strong in those regions till date. |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by comfokon: 6:00am On Nov 24, 2020 |
ChinenyeN: and In your mind, you think you know better than historians that studied the migration trend? you guys are land grabbers deal with it, it's very hard to see a typical Igbo accept another person's culture, these can only happen when they settle in peoples land and try to displace the aborigines. 1 Like |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by ChinenyeN(m): 6:30am On Nov 24, 2020 |
comfokon: |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by AmuDimpka: 7:05am On Nov 24, 2020 |
comfokon: There culture should be strong, the defeated peoole culture don't get wiped out like that... But the language of the conqueror would be at the top.... The victor imposes his language and culture on looser , the way the british imposes english on us Arochukwu is called(Okigbo great igbo ) read this Arochukwu is a small town located at the Southern end of Abia State in Nigeria. The Aros, as other Igbos, migrated from the Middle East to their present location in then Eastern Nigeria. You cannot mention Christopher Columbus who discovered America, without a short history of the Indians who owned the land. Also, in retrospect, the Aros came and won the land from the inhabitants, the Ibibios, after series of wars. These wars had a historic impact on the town. For instance, the leader of the Ibibio warriors who fought the war was captured and slain at Oro Village and this is why Oro became the chieftancy village. Amikpe Obinkita became the center where these defeated warriors were judged. This also is why all Aro villages assemble at Obinkita during the Ikeji festival. Any village that is not represented was fined by the entire Aro. Arochukwu, sometimes referred to as Arochuku, or Aro-Okigbo, (pronounced Aruchukwu) is the third largest city in Abia State (after Aba and Umuahia) in southeastern Nigeria and homeland of the Igbosubgroup, Aro people. It is composed of 19 villages with an overall leader called Eze Aro. Arochukwu is a principal historic town in Igboland. It was also one of the cities in the Southern protectorate conquered by the British colonial government. Several historic tourist sites exist in the city. The mystic Ibini Ukpabi shrine, the slave routes and other relics of the slave trade era are frequently visited by tourists. It is also in the food belt of Abia state where most of the staple foods are produced.http://igbohistory..com/2015/10/history-of-arochukwu.html?m=1 |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by AmuDimpka: 7:21am On Nov 24, 2020 |
Through Nnachi, an Eastern Cross river group answered the call for help. They were known as the Akpa. These warriors and traders, may have had European guns which were new to the Aro territory. Being the Igbo allies, the Akpas were led by the royal Nnubi family. Osim and Akuma Nnubi led Akpa soldiers to help fight against the ruling household. Together with Igbo forces and rebels, they defeated the Obong Okon Ita forces (1690). During the final battles, Osim Nnubi was slain in Oror city state making it the capital of Arochukwu. In Obinkita the remaining Ibibio warriors became prisoners and were judged and that is why the city state is the holder of the Ikeji festival. But at the end of the war, Osim and Akakpokpo were dead. In order to honor Osim's legacy, his brother Akuma was crowned the first EzeAro (king). After his death, Nnachi's descendants took the throne starting with his first son Oke Nnachi. The Arochukwu kingdom, was founded https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aro-Ibibio_Wars |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by Newton85: 11:53am On Nov 24, 2020 |
MetaPhysical: Oga, it's not nonsense. The Ibibios were the first inhabitants of what's today's Arochukwu. And Abiriba people factually have Efik-Ibibio ancestry. |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by comfokon: 12:38pm On Nov 24, 2020 |
AmuDimpka: Google searching would give you a perfect narrative of what happened. |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by nsiba: 4:58am On Nov 26, 2020 |
AmuDimpka:. Ibibios came from where? Who are Efiks and Aros? If you don't know a thing don't speak of what you don't know, never you repeat that Ibibios came from Ghana..... We are oldest in that territory every |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by nsiba: 5:09am On Nov 26, 2020 |
AmuDimpka:. If you can't quote Britannica, Oxford or Cambridge library materials don't put up any Igbo blogs spot history here.... |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by nsiba: 5:16am On Nov 26, 2020 |
MetaPhysical:. This is your first because you know nothing..... and which stock are you of that you should know? |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by IkpuMmadu: 6:35am On Nov 26, 2020 |
nsiba: define stupidity... it's. is believing the british version of Igbo history than the igbo man .. that is stupidity.. the truth is that Ibibio was defeated |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by IkpuMmadu: 6:39am On Nov 26, 2020 |
nsiba: |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by IkpuMmadu: 6:42am On Nov 26, 2020 |
comfokon:I am an Aro man and that is the truth that was why we celebrate ikeji to comomerate |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by Nobody: 7:59am On Nov 26, 2020 |
nsiba: Akuko. |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by nsiba: 8:51am On Nov 26, 2020 |
IkpuMmadu:. Defeated as portrayed by lies and propagandas synonymous with you lot, the betrayal perpetrated by the Igbos in connivance with the step brother of the the ruling Ibibios clan chief will forever be legendary You committed TREACHERY and not only that requested help from the Akpas ( Ekoi) to fight a chief that gave you lots sheltering and you call it defeat In the world of bravery and honor it is called cowardice, deceit and treachery. You can lie to yourself but not to that Ibibio clan and Ibibios in general. 3 Likes |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by nsiba: 8:52am On Nov 26, 2020 |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by Nobody: 9:00am On Nov 26, 2020 |
nsiba: We are glad to be Igala but tell that your Abia neighbor propagating the Igala mantra to leave the us in the Igala state alone. He should face his neighbors in Akwaibom, Rivers state and Imo but let the Igala be. We are happy been Igalas...full stop. |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by Nobody: 9:02am On Nov 26, 2020 |
nsiba: Another Akuko.. |
Re: Aba, Ngwa, Abiriba And Arochuwkwu Are Ancestral Ibibio Land. by nsiba: 9:08am On Nov 26, 2020 |
Juliusmalema:. I don't have problem with my neighbor only stating facts for d rest of you....we |
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