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Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by Edidiong123: 2:42pm On Nov 26, 2020
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by divinevie(m): 2:43pm On Nov 26, 2020
Charleys:
Gowon ruled for 9 years, he must have anticipated what will happen. A coup, And stock up for the rainy day.
bros he may have planned the coup sef
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by Nobody: 2:44pm On Nov 26, 2020
joseph1832:
I guess you live on the moon? Or haven't you read how the FG have been recovering looted Abacha funds from overseas?

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/408848-nigeria-to-recover-e5-5-million-abacha-loot-from-ireland.html

https://nairametrics.com/2020/05/05/fg-recovers-311-million-abacha-loot-from-us-jersey/
If those countries did not tell you or expose abacha loot how would you know?
Did the Nigerian government tell you anything concerning looting from abacha?
for the fact that's not a proof that's just an article or report that shows the amount of money abacha stole.
From the article there is a court under which will be filed by a document containing all evidence to return the loot, you don't have access to the document, the public doesn't, the court and the anti corrupt agencies does.
From your first link.
The person you quoted is right, there's no evidence to the public.
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by slydog(m): 2:45pm On Nov 26, 2020
felixzo1:
he is not a Nigerian politician, I believe he has his facts before making his statement,corruption did not start in Nigeria today ,politicians have become more aggressive with their stealing.
Still, he's a politician
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by harmony75: 3:03pm On Nov 26, 2020
Mr Tugendhat I don't think so moreover you were born 1973 how did you know about this or is it history that reveal it for you sir
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by fof1: 3:05pm On Nov 26, 2020
lalasticlala:
During the #EndSARS debate by UK Parliament, a member of the UK Parliament identified as Tom Tugendhat made a controversial statement that sparked reactions in Nigeria.

Tom Tugendhat accused ex Nigerian Head of State, General Yakubu Gowon of looting half of the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN).

In his words:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP1WhuRAkoA


Now, Who Is Tom Tugendhat?



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Tugendhat

Meanwhile, some notable Nigerians such as Akinwumi Adesina, Senator Shehu Sani, FFK and others have come to Gowon's defence.

More so, General Gowon has reacted to the allegation, rubbishing it.
HE IS A NOVICE. SMALL BOY WHEN ALL THESE WERE HAPPENING. NO WONDER HE DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING AND COULDN'T READ UP BUT TO COME UP AND SPEW RUBBISH IN D PUBLIC SPACE. BELITTLING HIMSELF AND HIS PARENTS.
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by GEEBITE: 3:06pm On Nov 26, 2020
His CV is damn impressive and his noble background is almost unimpeachable. This guy is speaking from a reservoir of deep knowledge in intels,military and foreign affairs. I like Gowon for his looks and calm mien,but he has lots of dirt on him.
hisexcellency34:
God bless you Tugendhat, my man of the year 2020
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by Shattuck(m): 3:07pm On Nov 26, 2020
RenaissanceGuy:
Let's not be emotional about this. Yakubu Gowon was in Ethiopia attending a meeting when he was overthrown. So how did he then move half of CBN? Did he come back to Nigeria to tell the new military govt to give him half of the CBN treasury? Impossible. Bring up your own "superior" logic.
The guy said the man LEFT NIGERIA with half of CBN money. Actually, Gowon went to the UK FROM ETHIOPIA after he learned of his ouster. So it doesn't add up.


MODIFIED: For all of you quoting me misunderstanding my logic, it's the lawmaker who didn't use the right words. He said Yakubu 'left Nigeria with half of CBN' meaning the looting was after he was overthrown and was done at once. He should have said "Yakubu stole half of the CBN while he was the head of state".
guess you have a low comprehension level in english, left with does not mean the funds where looted the last day in office, we all know Nigeria's politicians start looting immediately they take office, btw I doubt the half of CBN comment but I know for a fact that nigeria has never had a man of integrity in power.
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by GEEBITE: 3:07pm On Nov 26, 2020
Read about his background from family and professional career. That guy knows his stuff and has info on world affairs by training and exposure. Forget the year he was born.
harmony75:
Mr Tugendhat I don't think so moreover you were born 1973 how did you know about this or is it history that reveal it for you sir
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by joseph1832(m): 3:15pm On Nov 26, 2020
onyechez:
If those countries did not tell you or expose abacha loot how would you know?
Did the Nigerian government tell you anything concerning looting from abacha?
for the fact that's not a proof that's just an article or report that shows the amount of money abacha stole.
From the article there is a court under which will be filed by a document containing all evidence to return the loot, you don't have access to the document, the public doesn't, the court and the anti corrupt agencies does.
From your first link.
The person you quoted is right, there's no evidence to the public.
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by jeffoe(m): 3:18pm On Nov 26, 2020
rossniti:
And they are just as fantastically corrupt by harbouring the looted funds.

In law it's called being an Accessory After Theft, and it is a felony, just like theft itself.

You cannot be retaining looted funds and then be presenting yourself as an angel of light who "condemns corruption".

Only gullible, colonised, brainwashed Nigerians fall for these games played by the British.
While some brit are corrupt. It is a deep shame to be caught in the act of corruption or be alleged to be corrupt. People resign and their political career destroyed. Corrupt people don't get presidential pardon in the UK. Unlike Nigeria where corrupt people are celebrated given honorary titles etc.

They have systems although not perfect that makes corrupt practices difficult coupled with very strong institutions.

Can the Nigerian government make bold to say that their are corrupt assets of UK politicians in Nigeria. UK corruption does not impoverish it citizens unlike it Nigerian counterparts.

As regards the accessory to theft part. I am a layman but I know that there are processes that is why UK is not a dictatorship they can't just go about seizing people asset.

It takes the cooperation of two sovereign Nations to tackle cross-border money laundry. Nigeria government would never corporate when it involves member of it government. The only reason Abacha loot was recovered was because of the corporation of obj government and that is because Abacha was dead and obj was only avenging his imprisonment.
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by lukui: 3:20pm On Nov 26, 2020
monkey dey work baboon dey chop



welcome to nigeria
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by BLoomfrancs(m): 3:23pm On Nov 26, 2020
RenaissanceGuy:
Let's not be emotional about this. Yakubu Gowon was in Ethiopia attending a meeting when he was overthrown. So how did he then move half of CBN? Did he come back to Nigeria to tell the new military govt to give him half of the CBN treasury? Impossible. Bring up your own "superior" logic.
The guy said the man LEFT NIGERIA with half of CBN money. Actually, Gowon went to the UK FROM ETHIOPIA after he learned of his ouster. So it doesn't add up.


MODIFIED: For all of you quoting me misunderstanding my logic, it's the lawmaker who didn't use the right words. He said Yakubu 'left Nigeria with half of CBN' meaning the looting was after he was overthrown and was done at once. He should have said "Yakubu stole half of the CBN while he was the head of state".
You're really are dumbass
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by eagleu: 3:25pm On Nov 26, 2020
jeffoe:
While some brit are corrupt. It is a deep shame to be caught in the act of corruption or be alleged to be corrupt. People resign and their political career destroyed. Corrupt people don't get presidential pardon in the UK. Unlike Nigeria where corrupt people are celebrated given honorary titles etc.

They have systems although not perfect that makes corrupt practices difficult coupled with very strong institutions.

Can the Nigerian government make bold to say that their are corrupt assets of UK politicians in Nigeria. UK corruption does not impoverish it citizens unlike it Nigerian counterparts.

As regards the accessory to theft part. I am a layman but I know that there are processes that is why UK is not a dictatorship they can't just go about seizing people asset.

It takes the cooperation of two sovereign Nations to tackle cross-border money laundry. Nigeria government would never corporate when it involves member of it government. The only reason Abacha loot was recovered was because of the corporation of obj government and that is because Abacha was dead and obj was only avenging his imprisonment.
Thank you
Gowon-apologizers will bend over backward, without reason, and filled with bias to justify his action. Many countries will simply do a case analysis, and see where mistakes were made, and where successes was achieved, no not in Nigeria!

Next, some people will make excess for Gowon, because he was young, inexperienced, and finishing a war. They failed to read history of other nations.
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by Corlahworleh(m): 3:32pm On Nov 26, 2020
Oyinbo no dey lie now. Them no even dey shit.

felixzo1:
he is not a Nigerian politician, I believe he has his facts before making his statement,corruption did not start in Nigeria today ,politicians have become more aggressive with their stealing.
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by BreconHills(m): 3:36pm On Nov 26, 2020
RenaissanceGuy:
Let's not be emotional about this. Yakubu Gowon was in Ethiopia attending a meeting when he was overthrown. So how did he then move half of CBN? Did he come back to Nigeria to tell the new military govt to give him half of the CBN treasury? Impossible. Bring up your own "superior" logic.
The guy said the man LEFT NIGERIA with half of CBN money. Actually, Gowon went to the UK FROM ETHIOPIA after he learned of his ouster. So it doesn't add up.


MODIFIED: For all of you quoting me misunderstanding my logic, it's the lawmaker who didn't use the right words. He said Yakubu 'left Nigeria with half of CBN' meaning the looting was after he was overthrown and was done at once. He should have said "Yakubu stole half of the CBN while he was the head of state".
Not only that but with an exchange rate of £1 =80k, with the entire mint at his supposed command and with the naira itself being a 100% convertible currency at the time, you wonder why Gowon is not up there with Gates, Bezos and Musk.

Half of the CBN funds my foot!
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by BreconHills(m): 3:48pm On Nov 26, 2020
eagleu:
Thank you
Gowon-apologizers will bend over backward, without reason, and filled with bias to justify his action. Many countries will simply do a case analysis, and see where mistakes were made, and where successes was achieved, no not in Nigeria!

Next, some people will make excess for Gowon, because he was young, inexperienced, and finishing a war. They failed to read history of other nations.
Please think. Think.

Exchange rate at the time was £1 to 80k and the naira was 100% convertible at better rates than most European countries. How is this man not ranked as more wealthy than Bill Gates, Bezos and Musk? Nigerias reserves in the 70's were humongous and the currency was partially backed by Gold.

It sounds exciting to imagine a man flying plane loads of loot abroad but just think.

The UK has extensive property registers going all the way back to forever. Why is this man not able to locate just one. It only takes a few seconds on a mobile device.

I have to believe that this man is either a public school tw*t ( He did attend St Pauls) or was grossly misinformed and uber trusting of his Nigerian informant ( it happens - racist exceptionalism)

Whatever may be the case, the idea of one man hauling off half of the CBN at those favourable exchange rates and then going on to live like a monk is a drunks comic book.
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by IamRichards: 3:54pm On Nov 26, 2020
ikenna44:
grin you sound like you're lost at life!!! sore loser!!!
Am not responsible for the problems in your life smiley Find a therapist.
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by Opeyemi4real(m): 3:56pm On Nov 26, 2020
You can think better bro.
RenaissanceGuy:
Let's not be emotional about this. Yakubu Gowon was in Ethiopia attending a meeting when he was overthrown. So how did he then move half of CBN? Did he come back to Nigeria to tell the new military govt to give him half of the CBN treasury? Impossible. Bring up your own "superior" logic.
The guy said the man LEFT NIGERIA with half of CBN money. Actually, Gowon went to the UK FROM ETHIOPIA after he learned of his ouster. So it doesn't add up.


MODIFIED: For all of you quoting me misunderstanding my logic, it's the lawmaker who didn't use the right words. He said Yakubu 'left Nigeria with half of CBN' meaning the looting was after he was overthrown and was done at once. He should have said "Yakubu stole half of the CBN while he was the head of state".
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by Liposure: 4:03pm On Nov 26, 2020
RenaissanceGuy:
Let's not be emotional about this. Yakubu Gowon was in Ethiopia attending a meeting when he was overthrown. So how did he then move half of CBN? Did he come back to Nigeria to tell the new military govt to give him half of the CBN treasury? Impossible. Bring up your own "superior" logic.
The guy said the man LEFT NIGERIA with half of CBN money. Actually, Gowon went to the UK FROM ETHIOPIA after he learned of his ouster. So it doesn't add up.


MODIFIED: For all of you quoting me misunderstanding my logic, it's the lawmaker who didn't use the right words. He said Yakubu 'left Nigeria with half of CBN' meaning the looting was after he was overthrown and was done at once. He should have said "Yakubu stole half of the CBN while he was the head of state".
gowon was in kampala, uganda when he was toppled not ethiopia you erroneously said
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by eagleu: 4:13pm On Nov 26, 2020
BreconHills:
Please think. Think.

Exchange rate at the time was £1 to 80k and the naira was 100% convertible at better rates than most European countries. How is this man not ranked as more wealthy than Bill Gates, Bezos and Musk? Nigerias reserves in the 70's were humongous and the currency was partially backed by Gold.

It sounds exciting to imagine a man flying plane loads of loot abroad but just think.

The UK has extensive property registers going all the way back to forever. Why is this man not able to locate just one. It only takes a few seconds on a mobile device.

I have to believe that this man is either a public school tw*t ( He did attend St Pauls) or was grossly misinformed and uber trusting of his Nigerian informant ( it happens - racist exceptionalism)

Whatever may be the case, the idea of one man hauling off half of the CBN at those favourable exchange rates and then going on to live like a monk is a drunks comic book.
Wow!
You're shooting at a mirage with both hands, not knowing the target is right behind you.

Ever heard of figure of speech?

Why do you think that the only way Gowon could have moved assets to UK was by filling boxes and bags with cash in his own name?

At basic intelligence level, which this guy has access to, it's easy to see what assets belongs to who and who, whether it was declared or not.

Attacking the guy for attending St. Paul is the usual Nigerian method of confusing and attacking messengers and not the message. You're in UK, you can do better than this.
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by tot(f): 4:14pm On Nov 26, 2020
eagleu:
Wow!
You're shooting at a mirage with both hands, not knowing the target is right behind you.

Ever heard of figure of speech?

Why do you think that the only way Gowon could have moved assets to UK was by filling boxes and bags with cash in his own name?

At basic intelligence level, which this guy has access to, it's easy to see what assets belongs to who and who, whether it was declared or not.

Attacking the guy for attending St. Paul is the usual Nigerian method of confusing and attacking messengers and not the message. You're in UK, you can do better than this.
He is asking people to think but he himself has refused to apply his brain. It's truly not easy to be a zombie defending rubbish on a daily basis.
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by chozzy: 4:20pm On Nov 26, 2020
felixzo1:
he is not a Nigerian politician, I believe he has his facts before making his statement,corruption did not start in Nigeria today ,politicians have become more aggressive with their stealing.
Listen to him again ... he said "so it is said"
It's all more like hearsay. He didn't sound certain about it.
.
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by ikenna44: 4:25pm On Nov 26, 2020
it takes someone with problems to know others... unfortunately, you've applied yourself stupldly again like you and your miserable father always do! grin fuckln dwib!
IamRichards:
Am not responsible for the problems in your life smiley Find a therapist.
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by Guide777(m): 4:46pm On Nov 26, 2020
RenaissanceGuy:
Let's not be emotional about this. Yakubu Gowon was in Ethiopia attending a meeting when he was overthrown. So how did he then move half of CBN? Did he come back to Nigeria to tell the new military govt to give him half of the CBN treasury? Impossible. Bring up your own "superior" logic.
The guy said the man LEFT NIGERIA with half of CBN money. Actually, Gowon went to the UK FROM ETHIOPIA after he learned of his ouster. So it doesn't add up.


MODIFIED: For all of you quoting me misunderstanding my logic, it's the lawmaker who didn't use the right words. He said Yakubu 'left Nigeria with half of CBN' meaning the looting was after he was overthrown and was done at once. He should have said "Yakubu stole half of the CBN while he was the head of state".
By your logic, Abacha was cut short by death, so he did not have the opportunity to loot.
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by BreconHills(m): 4:47pm On Nov 26, 2020
eagleu:
Wow!
You're shooting at a mirage with both hands, not knowing the target is right behind you.

Ever heard of figure of speech?

Why do you think that the only way Gowon could have moved assets to UK was by filling boxes and bags with cash in his own name?

At basic intelligence level, which this guy has access to, it's easy to see what assets belongs to who and who, whether it was declared or not.

Attacking the guy for attending St. Paul is the usual Nigerian method of confusing and attacking messengers and not the message. You're in UK, you can do better than this.
You really haven't addressed any of the points I made. This gargantuan wealth that Gowon somehow made away with ( and do remember that a hostile MM government would have checked for something as basic as a CBN transfers ( individuals used cash and travellers cheques, everything else went through CBN)) Otherwise he must have ferried it out on a cargo plane. It would have to be a cargo plane tbh.

The Naira was 100% convertible. It was listed on all foreign exchange bureau board anywhere in the world. It was a very strong currency " Petronaira" it was called. I exchanged wads of it when I was a student. Having money as a 70's Nigerian student was not a difficulty unless of course you were caught out by a surprise coup and your accounts and privileges were suddenly frozen.

So where is the money? Where was it? Half of the CBN? My word.

Where is the money trail of an amount of money that would make Elon Musk look like a starter? Money trail is easy, registered property trail is easy. Taxes and charges paid on property is easy.

Why did the man have to be rehabilitated by successive Nigerian governments? Why was he not able to afford a full national political campaign on his return?

Regarding the my comment about St Paul's, I attended Shrewsbury in 1976 -1978 ( I was a literal eye witness to all these events) and it is infinitely more public than St Paul's. What I was referring to, is the well known condition of those who live cloistered lives and yet choose to speak as experts on matters they no absolutely nothing about. I met many of them, I know many of them. They are insufferable because they believe that being born into a particular family or pedigree absolves them of the need to do research instead of pontificate.

I quite understand that this is the season where everything that happened before us must be torn down but Gen Gowon was a decent man with his own failings. Stealing is not one of them. I can say this with authority as someone that knew him and who was in the UK at the same time and period.

One man's statement ( with no shred of evidence) cannot overturn history. I sincerely hope that someone will take this up. I on my part have written to my MP who is also a Conservative party member. I want proof and the facts on which this mans statement stands In an attempt to address a wrong you cannot sully everything that moves. Shame on this man.

Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by chatinent: 4:52pm On Nov 26, 2020
Hmmm.
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by IamRichards: 4:56pm On Nov 26, 2020
ikenna44:
it takes someone with problems to know others... unfortunately, you've applied yourself stupldly again like you and your miserable father always do! grin fuckln dwib!
If only your father knew his sperm will be this useless...Chai! And he even named you Ikenna yet no way.Better change your name to efulefu
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by putin2: 5:02pm On Nov 26, 2020
Uk knows Nigeria more than all of us.
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by Babanah: 5:22pm On Nov 26, 2020
eagleu:
So, because he was overthrown while on a conference in Kenya?
Did it mean he had no money in the UK already?
Oh, he didn't have time to collect his Ghana must go full of naira in Lagos?
What a shallow and childish understand.

Corruption was one of the reasons Murtala Mohammed overthrew him.
I know Gen Gowon better than you think. He is a very simple and humble person. We used to meet him at the Christmas party in Dodan barracks in those day near the tennis courts. My father was not a big man in those days.

I remember we used to have the chance to peep into his official car ‘NA 1’ with three stars whenever visits for official ceremonies like festac 2nd all Africa games etc.

Most of the developments in Lagos were initiated by his administration national stadium, national theatre, eko bridge, new Carter Bridge, Lagos badagary express road, trade fair complex, tin can island port, rebuilding of ikorodu road, western avenue, agege motor road, new Ikeja airport later renamed MMA. The list goes on.
General Gowon remains the most decent and sincere of Nigeria leaders no doubt.

Nigeria was at its heights during the Gowon regime. Since then every thing has been down hill till today
Re: Meet Tom Tugendhat Who Accused Gowon Of Looting Half Of Central Bank Of Nigeria by delpee(f): 6:15pm On Nov 26, 2020
The guy is too young to know. Probably he's assuming based on what he sees happening in Africa now.

Gowon could not have stolen so much money back then. Most of the funds were spent prosecuting the unnecessary war, new infrastructure and reconstruction and resettlement after the war. No loans were taken.

We know how he managed as a student in the UK after the coup until the FG later pardoned him.

Very decent and humble man till today.
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