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If Your Prayer As A Christian Is For Ur "Enemies" To Die,u Are Not A CHRISTIAN by dogmart(m): 7:13pm On Dec 02, 2020
No explanation is needed.
None at all.
I don't need to quote scriptures for you. I only need to ask you some questions.

Who is a CHRISTIAN?

"Someone who is christ-like."

Please when Christ was on Earth did he ever pray for his enemies to die?

If he didn't do so, but instead said;

"Father forgive them for they know not what they are doing"

Then you really need to look inward if u indeed claim to be Christ like!

Is your tribulation greater than that which christ or the disciples went through?

Answer the question truthfully and stop being a PAGAN in action and a CHRISTIAN by name.


This is of no apology to anyone or any segregation. It is a burning word I just needed to share.

God bless you.

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Re: If Your Prayer As A Christian Is For Ur "Enemies" To Die,u Are Not A CHRISTIAN by Bacteriologist(m): 8:24pm On Dec 02, 2020
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Re: If Your Prayer As A Christian Is For Ur "Enemies" To Die,u Are Not A CHRISTIAN by Kobojunkiee: 9:07pm On Dec 02, 2020
dogmart:
No explanation is needed.
None at all.
I don't need to quote scriptures for you. I only need to ask you some questions.

Who is a CHRISTIAN?

And:
"Someone who is christ-like."
Then when Christ was in Earth did he ever pray for his enemies to die?

If he didn't do so, but instead said.
"Father forgive them for they know not what they are doing"
Then you really need to look inward if u indeed claim to be Christ like!
Is your tribulation greater than that which christ or the disciples went through?
Answer the question truthfully and stop being a PAGAN in action and a CHRISTIAN by name.
This is of no apology to anyone or any segregation. It is a burning word I just needed to share.
God bless you.
You are right about them not being followers of Jesus Christ in any way

Matthew 5 vs 38-48 (ERV)
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38. “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.’[i]
39. But I tell you, don’t fight back against someone who wants to do harm to you. If they hit you on the right cheek, let them hit the other cheek too.
40. If anyone wants to sue you in court and take your shirt, let them have your coat too.
41. If a soldier forces you to walk with him one mile,[j] go with him two.
42. Give to anyone who asks you for something. Don’t refuse to give to anyone who wants to borrow from you.
[b]43.
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[k] and hate your enemy.’
44. But I tell you, love your enemies. Pray for those who treat you badly.
45. If you do this, you will be children who are truly like your Father in heaven. He lets the sun rise for all people, whether they are good or bad. He sends rain to those who do right and to those who do wrong.
46. If you love only those who love you, why should you get a reward for that? Even the tax collectors do that.
47. And if you are nice only to your friends, you are no better than anyone else. Even the people who don’t know God are nice to their friends.
48. What I am saying is that you must be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

The same Jesus Christ also commanded that we forgive those who err against us more than seventy-seven times

Matthew 18 vs 21-22 (ERV)
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21. Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, when someone[d] won’t stop doing wrong to me, how many times must I forgive them? Seven times?”
22. Jesus answered, “I tell you, you must forgive them more than seven times. You must continue to forgive them even if they do wrong to you seventy-seven times.[e]
I fail to see how a one who belongs to Jesus Christ, can even boast of having an enemy at that.

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Re: If Your Prayer As A Christian Is For Ur "Enemies" To Die,u Are Not A CHRISTIAN by dogmart(m): 9:51pm On Dec 02, 2020
Kobojunkiee:

You are right after them not being followers of Jesus Christ in any way

The same Jesus Christ also commanded that we forgive those who err against us more than seventy-seven times
I fail to see how a one who belongs to Jesus Christ, can even boast of having an enemy at that.

God bless you.

The modern day Nigerian Christianity is only a metamorphosis of paganism! Nothing else! They believe and quote "being a Nigerian is different"


it is only Nigerians that have curses undecided, and so called "village peoples"

The typical Nigerian Christian is envious, and does not genuinely love his neighbor. How will he?
When he has been preached into believing there are certain people who do not want him to progress and until those people leave he cannot move ahead! undecided
Thus, everyone to him is a "Suspect" even his siblings.

When the Bible say; "The lord does not wants the death of a sinner but that he repents"

I am sure he wasn't referring to the Nigerian christians. Cus here, their enemies MUST DIE!

I have a church close to my farm where with booming speakers they rain curses at their so called enemies in their families and their work places.
I only shake my head in disgust.

Just as it was in those days before christianity when people seeked dibias or Babalawos to help fight their enemies , so is it today. Only difference is now it is done in the name of the Lord with a false sense of righteosness.

God help us.

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Re: If Your Prayer As A Christian Is For Ur "Enemies" To Die,u Are Not A CHRISTIAN by Kobojunkiee: 9:59pm On Dec 02, 2020
dogmart:
God bless you.
The modern day Nigerian Christianity is only a metamorphosis of paganism! Nothing else! They believe and quote "being a Nigerian is different"
it is only Nigerians that have curses undecided, and so called "village peoples"
The typical Nigerian Christian is envious, and does not genuinely love his neighbor. How will he?
When he has been preached into believing there are certain people who do not want him to progress and until those people leave he cannot move ahead! undecided
Thus, everyone to him is a "Suspect" even his siblings.

dogmart:
When the Bible say; "The lord does not wants the death of a sinner but that he repents"
I am sure he wasn't referring to the Nigerian christians. Cus here, their enemies MUST DIE!
I have a church close to my farm where with booming speakers they rain curses at their so called enemies in their families and their work places.
I only shake my head in disgust.
ROFLMAO!
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dogmart:
Just as it was in those days before christianity when people seeked dibias or Babalawos to help fight their enemies , so is it today. Only difference is now it is done in the name of the Lord with a false sense of righteosness.
I agree! Those who run to pastors, for anything, even in the name of God, are no different from those who run to a Babalawo.
Re: If Your Prayer As A Christian Is For Ur "Enemies" To Die,u Are Not A CHRISTIAN by eviana3(f): 10:21pm On Dec 02, 2020
dogmart:
No explanation is needed.
None at all.
I don't need to quote scriptures for you. I only need to ask you some questions.

Who is a CHRISTIAN?

"Someone who is christ-like."

Please when Christ was on Earth did he ever pray for his enemies to die?

If he didn't do so, but instead said;

"Father forgive them for they know not what they are doing"

Then you really need to look inward if u indeed claim to be Christ like!

Is your tribulation greater than that which christ or the disciples went through
?

Answer the question truthfully and stop being a PAGAN in action and a CHRISTIAN by name.


This is of no apology to anyone or any segregation. It is a burning word I just needed to share.

God bless you.

As much as this stings, you really are correct.
Don't know if you're coming from the mind-set of being an actual Christian, or from being an onlooker from another religion or lack thereof.
I have said this 1 million times...about the Nigerian brand of Christianity that includes "praying for enemies to die". Never really understood that concept as I wasn't born, nor grew up, there.
That is absolutely 1000 percent wrong..no matter how one tries to justify it.
Jesus Christ never ever did that...and neither are those who profess His name supposed to do thst.
I think (by mere observation and a little research) see that Christianity in Nigeria has emerged with traditional religion.
I always said that people are entitled to worship how they choose, but don't call something such as wishing "death" on another human (regardless of if one thinks it is justified) "biblical" when that has never been Jesus' standard or example.
Now that I can agree on with some of the posters on the thread.
I have a problem when retaliation death prayers become a standard modus operandi under the guise of religion...for any reason as difficult as that may be "not" to engage in that manner.
Perhaps people just need to study their bible and be re-educated on the truth pertaining to that "teaching".

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Re: If Your Prayer As A Christian Is For Ur "Enemies" To Die,u Are Not A CHRISTIAN by MuttleyLaff: 11:24pm On Dec 02, 2020
"43You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor’ and ‘Hate your enemy.’
44But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.
He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous
"
- Matthew 5:43-45

"27This is what I say to all who will listen to Me:
Love your enemies, and be good to everyone who hates you
.
28Ask God to bless anyone who curses you,
and pray for everyone who is cruel to you.
"
- Luke 6:27-28

"Bless those who persecute you.
Bless and do not curse.
"
- Romans 12:14

"Do not repay evil, with evil
or insult with insult, but with blessing,
because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing
"
- 1 Peter 3:9

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Re: If Your Prayer As A Christian Is For Ur "Enemies" To Die,u Are Not A CHRISTIAN by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:10am On Dec 03, 2020
@dogmart:

That is the more reason why we need to identify Jesus' group today!

Though most people shy away from this as they just want to be called Christians without being under any restraint. Well there is one group that will never curse their enemies, most people do wonder why this group don't buy the so called gospel music that's rampant today, the reason is how the so called gospel singers often try to meet up with the heart desires of their fans! undecided
Most people like cursing their enemies so the so called gospel singers follow that trend to get more subscribers.
It took me over two decades before i converted to Christianity because i love everything i read in the Bible about Christ and his disciples but finds it difficult to see a group or denomination (as you guys do call them) that's practicing what Jesus preached and taught.
When Jehovah's Witnesses first visited me i knew something is different from what i've been seeing around, they never prayed for about three weeks they're just coming to discuss until the man said "we've noticed how you're responding to our message so it's time to start with prayer" i was shocked because my neighbours often say this people don't pray, so i asked them why they have to wait for almost a month before they start praying with me!
Then they quoted Jesus who said "if the house is deserving let your peace come upon it" {Matthew 10:13} the "PEACE" mentioned here means praying with the householder!

But all other religions will just start praying publicly even when they know that most of their audience aren't willing to listen to God's word {Proverbs 28:9} Jesus is God's only begotten son and he himself will not pray with you if you're not ready to do what God asked him to tell you {John 17:8-9} So from that very day i got to know that there is just one group of Christians all other groups are different religions claiming Christians.
Jesus even said "by the love my true followers have for themselves (sincere) observers will know that they are my true followers" {John 13:34-35} But what about critics who just want their form of worship to be approved by people? Jesus said they will all hate my true followers {Matthew 10:22} because a student can't be honoured more than his teacher so it's the same way people treated Jesus that his true followers will be treated! Matthew 10:25

That's why you'll hear people say about Jehovah's Witnesses i hate them {Luke 21:17; John 15:21} because they only have love for their members {John 13:34-35}

I left Islam for true Christianity and that's why i can boldly say anywhere, anytime and before anybody that Jehovah's Witnesses globally will never pray for their enemies to die, they knew God will destroy all evildoers that's why they're exerting themselves to come and preach and teach us in our homes even though majority often treat them with contempt, the love they have for their neighbours keep them coming back.
Even if they don't pray with us, their attitude of coming back despite the way most of us do vilify them is enough to tell that they meant well. Try treat members of other churches the way JWs are treated and see if they will ever come back to your door! Luke 9:51-56

God bless you! smiley

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Re: If Your Prayer As A Christian Is For Ur "Enemies" To Die,u Are Not A CHRISTIAN by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:44am On Dec 03, 2020
The Truth is that many church folks are driven by the cravings of their flesh such as vengeance but use the Bible to justify it just as the Pharisees were well known for.

Worst still their leaders are more interested in pleasing them, and saying what they want to hear than following the examples and teachings of Christ.

So if their own leaders are leading them in that contrary path which they want to go, who are you to tell them otherwise?

Except Christians come to realize that even those leading them are also going to appear before the Jesus and give an account of themselves and their works on that day, they would continue to blindly follow them in that wrong path which leads to the pit.

God bless.

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