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Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by Reference(m): 1:08pm On Dec 04, 2020
Even they cannot avoid being sucked into Nigeria's terrible political black hole, saying, 'the trains bought during the GEJ era were still functional while those bought under this regime are faulty'...

They have tossed the bone to get us yakking while they escape into the night.

For this humongous, poverty inducing amount spent on a quest for industrial infrastructure I hope we will be getting more than a rail line but technology transfer as well.

No deal should be signed going forward without the clause enabling us to maintain them. The evil drama of the refineries come to mind. If we cannot maintain these trains by ourselves, we are in big, big, trouble.
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by kayjay69(m): 1:10pm On Dec 04, 2020
I agree, badluck is the cause.

They know we are this daft which is why they will issue such a daft comment.

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Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by Comedian2019: 1:11pm On Dec 04, 2020
kayjay69:
I agree, badluck is the cause.

They know we are this daft which is why they will issue such a daft comment.

These Chinese already listen to lia mohd and co, so they speak to our government they way our government speak to Nigerians.

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Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by Nobody: 1:12pm On Dec 04, 2020
Newphil:
Was the effect of climate considered when building the train for our clime?

Diesel locomotives work in winter. I sincerely don't think our weather is that extreme.
"Bad luck" indeed.

Ask them whether the full money was paid, or kickbacks have rendered the trains inoperative.
The truth is out there.
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by Brushstrokes20: 1:14pm On Dec 04, 2020
The dullard personified!
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by ogbonti: 1:22pm On Dec 04, 2020
Are you people surprised ? Their Nigeria collaborators, especially Lai Mohammed don teach dem how to lie
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by Angelnath(m): 1:23pm On Dec 04, 2020
Blame pdp and their government for this failure... Nigeria has been progressing since the inception of buharis government God bless our darling daddy PMB
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by sulaak(m): 1:31pm On Dec 04, 2020
Newphil:
Was the effect of climate considered when building the train for our clime?

It has nothing to do with the Nigerian climate, made in China is still inferior.

It is wrong to invest billions of dollars in a product without the necessary resources and capability is to support the systems.

Don't we have local locomotive engineers that can investigate the problem instead of going back to China?

Nigeria should stop wasting resources on large projects like railway network and focus on investing in education and health care

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Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by Germi9: 1:45pm On Dec 04, 2020
i have said it countless times that the Chinese will ruin Nigeria with their substance fancy products
what about Russia and and and...
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by niyidenrele: 1:47pm On Dec 04, 2020
amazingspiderma:
If trains are breaking down, then people who have been avoiding Abuja-Kaduan expressway would have to start using the road for transportation.
Both great and small.

Not bad..........
.. Hmmmm, I suspect saboteur insider, working for the kidnappers, so as to discourage people from boarding the train
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by LEOSZ(m): 1:55pm On Dec 04, 2020
Welcome to Nigeria grin grin grin

Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by sulaak(m): 1:56pm On Dec 04, 2020
It's obvious that the Chinese know that the Nigerians officials are ignorance and incompetence.


When asked why the trains (CDD5c2 2701 and CDD5c2 2702 models) were frequently breaking down only a few months after they were commissioned, the CRCC engineer said: “It’s hard to say, maybe bad luck because the trains were newly built and certified okay by our company in China before they were sent to Nigeria in January.”

“In my many years of experience in after-sales service, this situation is the first I’m seeing,” Mr. Zhiguang said.
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by jaxxy(m): 1:58pm On Dec 04, 2020
Sub standard train obviously. lipsrsealed undecided
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by Originalsly: 1:58pm On Dec 04, 2020
Hmmm.... they should return the trains..... warranty not met. It's an insult for them to blame it on bad luck.... would they dare think of saying such to a non African buyer? [i]We may extend the warranty [i]..... insult followed by a slap in the face. And we are still playing nice with them.
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by freakz(m): 2:21pm On Dec 04, 2020
they have learnt our ways .....lobatan
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by durablekudu: 2:21pm On Dec 04, 2020
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Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by SocialJustice: 2:33pm On Dec 04, 2020
UCHIHAmask:

never underestimate Chinese cunning nature,we know chinko products to lack durability because they keep playing us,sending substandard techs to us so the demand will keep flowing for business...Chinese techs are bold,wonderful and advanced,go to European nations and see unadulterated asian gadgets making waves,they exploit us because we lack the independent scientific capability to check for the chemistry standard of things we import...
ameachi paid for something,even if he did it corruptly the Chinese would still exploit him in that corrupt deal they made with him
Amaechi wasn't exploited rather he ordered low quality goods intentionally.
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by foreshore(m): 2:36pm On Dec 04, 2020
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by delishpot: 2:41pm On Dec 04, 2020
If snake can swallow money in naija, why can't bad luck cause poor project performance? Doesn't that sound better than a snake swallowing millions of naura in a day?
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by kristo123: 2:48pm On Dec 04, 2020
China machines don't last, they are deliberately built to break down so you can spend more for repairs and importing parts....

There is no such thing as bad luck just bad design.

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Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by pedrilo: 2:59pm On Dec 04, 2020
this is the change they brought
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by Yankee101: 3:09pm On Dec 04, 2020
Repainted, refurbished locomotives

They won't bring Europeans or Americans because they won't agree to the level of bribe and corruption naija officials will want
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by Nobody: 3:38pm On Dec 04, 2020
Reference:
Even they cannot avoid being sucked into Nigeria's terrible political black hole, saying, 'the trains bought during the GEJ era were still functional while those bought under this regime are faulty'...

They have tossed the bone to get us yakking while they escape into the night.


For this humongous, poverty inducing amount spent on a quest for industrial infrastructure I hope we will be getting more than a rail line but technology transfer as well.

No deal should be signed going forward without the clause enabling us to maintain them. The evil drama of the refineries come to mind. If we cannot maintain these trains by ourselves, we are in big, big, trouble.
I thought that statement was made by a Nigerian worker at the station..
But it would be funny if the Chinese wanted to jam our heads together while they escape undetected grin
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by Ogaonos: 3:46pm On Dec 04, 2020
Rugaria:


Nigeria can easily afford new trains/coaches. Very easy to do that if you know how to negotiate with the Chinese and beat down the prices. The problem is with the over inflation of contracts and the fact that those who negotiate contracts of this Sophisticated nature are mostly folks not versed in the field.. Again, we should be buying the technology. It will be helpful in the long run. I was looking at the conñtract sum for both the Kano - Niger republic tracks and the mentioned sum for the east to north rail. The combined sum is almost the sum the Chinese paid the Germans for the bullet train technology. Just as the endless increases in the contractual sum for the second Niger bridge is chasing the total amount the Chinese used to biuld one of the longest bridges in the world!
corruption.that why I will love falz or seun kuti run for Lagos state governor.pdp and APC politicians are bastard
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by maxzzo1(m): 3:49pm On Dec 04, 2020
Ahahahahahaha second hand train bad luck ke?
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by Ironi: 4:18pm On Dec 04, 2020
The Chinese are very eager to come to Africa because they find Africa a soft spot and would gobble any crap they throw at us. We don’t produce anything and we don’t know shit so they can afford to send us garbage at a cheap price and we would be very happy.

China as a country also have their issues for they are still a developing country doing wonders and not fully entered the realm of the so-called developed countries. They are still pirating and stealing technology from the the west.

We must see any stuff we get from China at this point as half good and partly garbage, they are still learning too.

They see Africa as an extension of China and have less regard for us.

That is what they are doing. Everywhere in Africa , the Chinese are flooding the market with cheap bad goods and some are also very dangerous. The situation is going to get worse in the years ahead because the Chinese would be well entrenched and Africa’s dependence would be irreversible.

You see , China coming to Africa is good but We Africans must wise up and be very smart and engage the Chinese shoulder to shoulder and insist on the best for Africa because they are not going anywhere and they need us as much as we need. We also have what they want.

We must do exactly what the Chinese did with the west to reach where they are today.

We should not just sign contracts and go to sleep. We must insist and work with them on technology transfer, we must understudy them and we must insist on our people being part of management and the work force else they would sign contracts and bring their own and Africa would gain nothing at the long run.

We should engage them and be smart and read the fine prints in everything, we should prioritize our needs and don’t take loans you can’t afford to service and make sure you are maximizing your benefits for any loan.

This is the last ride for Africa and we must hang on it and make sure we are maximizing our gains because they are shrewd and clever too.

The Chinese coming to Africa is good for us and I dare say, it’s one of the best things happening to Africa since eba and kpanla.

No other developed or western country is ready or prepared to offer us what the Chinese are doing , they are simply not in the position to do that. They don’t have the money like China and have simply run out of gas.

The Chinese on the other hand at this point have the money and are willing to invest, they are happy and ready to come to Africa where they find as soft and likely to have more control and leverage.

Fact is , the Chinese are coming to Africa but the question is , is Africa ready for them?

Are we ready for prime time because if we are not , we shall be colonized the second time !
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by Neoteny(m): 5:21pm On Dec 04, 2020
Newphil:
Was the effect of climate considered when building the train for our clime?

Seriously?

Is this what you're asking?
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by vyke2008: 6:13pm On Dec 04, 2020
Was the trains built for our clime?

Newphil:
Was the effect of climate considered when building the train for our clime?
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by sixtus3606(m): 6:24pm On Dec 04, 2020
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Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by juman(m): 6:33pm On Dec 04, 2020
Hope not the work of saboteurs.
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by themanderon: 7:40pm On Dec 04, 2020
Are they really new?
Re: Chinese Supplier Blames ‘Bad Luck’ For Frequent Locomotive Breakdown by IMAliyu(m): 8:40pm On Dec 04, 2020
The Chinese just sold us sub per trains knowing Nigerians are idiots.
Which bad luck?

So the company doesn't test and quality control their products?
Are there no train engineers or mechanics that can diagnose the fault point and send over replacements?

These people just know they can play on our intelligence and get away with it.

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