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FatherOfJesus:
You can't convince someone who already sees the bible as a shit with the bible.
that's fallacy of begging the question. It doesn't work

I disagree sir....
Haven’t u seen Muslims or idol worshipers who formerly think Bible is trash but later became Christians?? I have seen....I have have even seen atheist too become christians....

All it takes sometimes is an experience that will suddenly make the accounts of the Bible make sense.

People don’t just follow the Bible for following sake, they all have some personal conviction or experience .... anyone that doesn’t have, it’s only a matter of time before they become atheists or cross to another religion with claims that the Bible is trash..becos the mind always doubts and challenges what he sees or feel.

Like a virgin giving birth or a snake talking to you?
See why we don't take the bible serious?

coolsegun2002:
I disagree sir....
Haven’t u seen Muslims or idol worshipers who formerly think Bible is trash but later became Christians?? I have seen....I have have even seen atheist too become christians....

All it takes sometimes is an experience that will suddenly make the accounts of the Bible make sense.

People don’t just follow the Bible for following sake, they all have some personal conviction or experience .... anyone that doesn’t have, it’s only a matter of time before they become atheists or cross to another religion with claims that the Bible is trash..becos the mind always doubts and challenges what he sees or feel.

FatherOfJesus:
Like a virgin giving birth or a snake talking to you?
See why we don't take the bible serious?

See, the accounts of the Bible can be ambiguous I agree..yes... and it can also be against logical reasoning sometimes...

but try and explain that to a person who got healed of stage 4 colon cancer ..without medical intervention...

Like I said personal experience and conviction makes those account make sense to people...

The problem is that we have heated and seen so many fake miracles. How do we know which is true or that the person who got healed of cancer is saying the truth?

coolsegun2002:
See, the accounts of the Bible can be ambiguous I agree..yes... and it can also be against logical reasoning sometimes...

but try and explain that to a person who got healed of stage 4 colon cancer ..without medical intervention...

Like I said personal experience and conviction makes those account make sense to people...

FatherOfJesus:
The problem is that we have heated and seen so many fake miracles. How do we know which is true or that the person who got healed of cancer is saying the truth?

If you want to see account of fake and real miracles.. just go and meet doctors with over 20years of experience...

The account of cancer cure I gave u wasn't from the the person... it was from from the doctor....he also told me he scheduled a patient once for appendeceptomy but walked out of the without it...and X-ray showed the appendix was no longer ruptured..

Why some people get cured supernatural and some don’t completely beats anyone’s reasoning
One thing is certain man was crafted to die eventually..
miracle healing is only a postponement of the inevitable...

From my angle .... the greatest miracle is birth and death..not healing.....its just that we see all the time and now take it for granted..

Jesus is here already but only his true followers are seeing him with their mind's eyes.

The young first century Jewish carpenter said so many things that will help intelligent observers to realise he is around.

Right from time immemorial there has never been a time when people from different races (including rival nations and tribes) come together to form one global family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Jesus began gathering people (Jews who were racists and warriors) and started teaching them how to love their neighbours as they would themselves, neighbours in this regards will include nations that Israelites detests as pagans!

After Jesus' death, resurrection and assenssion to heaven his followers began inviting people from all other races to join the peaceful group but all these was short-lived when all the pioneers of the group (Apostles) died!

So Jesus' promise of a return to the earth means a group will surface and start doing exactly as the first century Christians did back then. There will be no discrimination amongst them {John 17:20-23} they will be known globally for the strong bond binding them as one family {John 13:34-35} they will not participate in politics {John 17:14-16} they will not participate in wars {Matthew 26:52} they will be known as preachers and teachers in their neighbourhood {Matthew 10:11-13; 28:19-20} and because they're different all other religions will hate them! Matthew 10:22-25

Even the world's most dumb dullard will know that a supernatural spirit being is working out all these things amongst Jehovah's Witnesses!

Righteousness89:
My Friend keep quiet!
The Bible is the Standard!
The Bible will always be Foolishness to those that Perish!

There is Nothing Else to use but the Bible.
That is the Guide for All of Humanity!

You Believe or you Don't does not Change it!
The Word of GOD will not Change because of you or me or anyone!

Lol, clown...guide for all humanity my black ass.
What's the Christian population again?

coolsegun2002:
See, the accounts of the Bible can be ambiguous I agree..yes... and it can also be against logical reasoning sometimes...

but try and explain that to a person who got healed of stage 4 colon cancer ..without medical intervention...

Like I said personal experience and conviction makes those account make sense to people...

Please explain to me how one could get healed of stage 4 colon cancer without medical intervention?

FatherOfJesus:
How can you use the bible to convince someone who obviously doesn't believe the bible?

Because the bible speaks for itself

Makes sense now. For itself

petra1:
Because the bible speaks for itself

kingxsamz:
Lol, clown...guide for all humanity my black ass.
What's the Christian population again?

Many are called and few are chosen. The way to Heaven is a narrow way. These are things we know before you were born, they are not disadvantages, weaknesses or shortcomings.

Sheunma:
Please explain to me how one could get healed of stage 4 colon cancer without medical intervention?

Are u asking me to explain what I can’t explain??
Oga...na so I hear am ooo...

coolsegun2002:
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First, I didn’t tag flat earth theory as anything....I only mentioned it as an example that some pple don’t believe in science too....
How u arrived at correcting me that is a pseudoscience is confusing me....

Faith based religion can not be explained any other way...u can’t use logic or science.. u’ll end up looking stupid...becos u are explaining to someone whose mind is already biased by logic.

It’s like telling a scientist to explain science without the principles of science...

Okay..explain to me how there’s life outside earth that I’ve ever neve been before without using science ...[/s]

In summary: Don't use your head.
That's essentially what you're saying.

BeLookingIDIOT:
In summary: Don't use your head.
That's essentially what you're saying.

U need science info to explain science Issues
U need biblical info to explain faith matters

If that means not using ur head to you, then don’t use your head...

Morningblues:
Who told Africa Jesus will come back and it is during their time Jesus will come? it been over 2000yrs no sign of Jesus coming back anywhere. U will die people will still be here waiting for Jesus . They lied to our great , grand, parent that Jesus will come during their time but they never saw him . Grow up . Jesus isn’t coming anywhere guys. Live your life and love life. No messiah is coming to save your ass. Heal yourself from that .

Exactly what The Lord Said, You Shall Surely Say, When the Time is Come!

Even Now, You Fully fill the Word of The Lord!

The-evils Know that The Lord Is Soon In Coming and they are Screeaaming Already!

Don't you HEAR their shouts and much wailings?

Morningblues:
They should yank off the hope of a messiah coming to save them and live their live not waiting for a god who will come save their ass.

See, Isn't This Exactly what Satan would say and Must say so that you would Join him in Intense Pain and Suffering?

Never seen a female that reasons differently like this.. Wish I could know the OP better