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Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by SirWarlock: 1:08pm On Dec 11, 2020
Ephemmm:


Before you political attachee start your normal blaming games, please remember that the longest strikes in the history of Nigeria happened under PDP.

Learn and grow up.
Plus the pandemic was a contributing factor in the closure of schools
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by Lawliet(f): 1:12pm On Dec 11, 2020
Failed system
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by Gabbriell: 1:18pm On Dec 11, 2020
SirWarlock:
Plus the pandemic was a contributing factor in the closure of schools

There was strike b4 the pandemic lockdown
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by wellmax(m): 1:21pm On Dec 11, 2020
kutchs:

[s]ASUU is the most credible union in Nigeria today. The only union that can look the wicked and thieving govts and tell them off. Without ASUU our tertiary institutions would've been just football field.

ASUU isn't selfish for fighting for the welfare and protecting their rights. That have a right to better welfare and condition of service, it's painful it's affecting you students but that's how it is. If the govt both current and past had done the needful, there wouldn't have been a strike[/s].

ASUU is the most useless union in Nigeria, very selfish and ignorant academics.

Tell me how students have benefitted from the over 4 years strikes in 12 years?

Which area of our society has enough funds, is it Health, security, roads, judicial system? where?
But ASUU is the only one that will waste students life and hold government, I mean every government in this country to a ransom. I hate ASUU, I loathe everyone who supports ASUU.
All they care about is their pockets, every strike is all about pay. Abeg abeg
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by Gabbriell: 1:21pm On Dec 11, 2020
Ephemmm:


Before you political attachee start your normal blaming games, please remember that the longest strikes in the history of Nigeria happened under PDP.

Learn and grow up.

9 months and counting, let's see how long this one goes.

As for politics, both PDP and APC have failed woefully
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by Gabbriell: 1:31pm On Dec 11, 2020
wellmax:


ASUU is the most useless union in Nigeria, very selfish and ignorant academics.

Tell me how students have benefitted from the over 4 years strikes in 12 years?

Which area of our society has enough funds, is it Health, security, roads, judicial system? where?
But ASUU is the only one that will waste students life and hold government, I mean every government in this country to a ransom. I hate ASUU, I loathe everyone who supports ASUU.
All they care about is their pockets, every strike is all about pay. Abeg abeg


And how have you benefited from over 60 years of corruption?.

This is thesame way you guys lambasted NUT and allowed FG to bring it down.
Now look at the state of primary and secondarry education. Compare the primary school you attended years ago with what is on ground now.

People now run to private primary schools now because of zombism displayed by your type in supporting FG to apply strict rule on NUT.

NUT no longer go on strike but now you are all running from public primary schools. SHAME!
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by Dblaiz(f): 1:55pm On Dec 11, 2020
ASUU can strike for africaaaaaaa

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Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by Zee22: 2:03pm On Dec 11, 2020
cool undecided
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by wellmax(m): 2:19pm On Dec 11, 2020
Gabbriell:



And how have you benefited from over 60 years of corruption?.

This is thesame way you guys lambasted NUT and allowed FG to bring it down.
Now look at the state of primary and secondarry education. Compare the primary school you attended years ago with what is on ground now.

People now run to private primary schools now because of zombism displayed by your type in supporting FG to apply strict rule on NUT.

NUT no longer go on strike but now you are all running from public primary schools. SHAME!

Rubbish, so you want primary schools to also be going on dtrike, i ee how much you love Nigeria.
ASUU has been fighting successive government, isn't it time to look inwards and understand that the structure, formation and objective of ASUU is totally faulty. See our students now running to Ghana, South Africa and Benin for education. Ask them why, they will tell you because of strike. 4 year course, you spend 6 years in school. They end up destabilizing lives, even JAMB calendar is disrupted because of selfish mindless ASUU.

Give ASUU the entire national budget and see how they will end up going on strike with nothing to show for it.

Abeg, ASUU is the most useless and selfish union in Nigeria today.
You may hate the present government for your wailing obligations, but let me remind you that ASUU has been going on strike from time immemorial. Are private unis more funded than public unis? What is ASUU's problem.

ASUU and thunder, I wonder who strike more. Nonsensical nonsense.
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by wellmax(m): 2:20pm On Dec 11, 2020
Gabbriell:



And how have you benefited from over 60 years of corruption?.


? Ogun will kill you if you never benefitted from Nigeria. Useless
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by obasi14673: 2:20pm On Dec 11, 2020
there are the real educated illiterates, after all this years of strike upon strike, there keep getting the same outcome yet fail to think out of the box. Greedy pot bellied minimen.
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by Obichi26(m): 2:20pm On Dec 11, 2020
Who made this simple calculation
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by Ibegtodiffer: 3:15pm On Dec 11, 2020
Skynet45:
ASUU dey strike pass Ronaldo and Messi . ASUU na super striker. That's what happens when an institution has nothing else to offer. Corona they can't do research, car they can't make , phone they can't produce, biro they can't produce. Our University lecturers never achieve anything since na only strike aluta they sabi

Misguided and unresearched position. Those who have up on the country and moved have gone as far as participating in development of vaccine. You dey here dey hussle likes... mtcheww
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by Ibegtodiffer: 3:19pm On Dec 11, 2020
NOwazobia:
Your government should be ashamed that for 21 years they are still yet to fulfill their promises. Students should be ashamed that for 21years they couldn't protest for the restructuring of their education system, the salaries and allowances of their fathers, and their pension.
.
ASUU is even more selfless and considerate that for 21years they only went on strike for less than 5years in 21years of provocation, while the student sit back abusing same ASUU who has been fighting for a better education that they student ought to have fought for.

God bless you sir.

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Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by ProphetM0hammad: 3:24pm On Dec 11, 2020
Gabbriell:



And how have you benefited from over 60 years of corruption?.

This is thesame way you guys lambasted NUT and allowed FG to bring it down.
Now look at the state of primary and secondarry education. Compare the primary school you attended years ago with what is on ground now.

People now run to private primary schools now because of zombism displayed by your type in supporting FG to apply strict rule on NUT.

NUT no longer go on strike but now you are all running from public primary schools. SHAME!
Then ASUU will meet the same fate as NUT very soon.
Cos for an improvement in the Education sector to take place, we have to change this country crops of leaders completely.
Nothing will happen because of incessant strikes, only that students time will be wasted and ASUU will lose some salaries.
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by Ibegtodiffer: 3:34pm On Dec 11, 2020
ProphetM0hammad:
That trend won't change as long as they are guaranteed of payments when they go back to work.

Why is it that you just don't look at the failure of governments? Your comments are generally sound, but rather than dwell, genuinely on solutions, you blame ASUU.

Government make promises, sign documents and for 11 years, they honour the agreements in bits, mostly after strikes.

It doesn't bother you that no government presence is ever felt in public universities except after ASUU strikes.

Yet, those who refused to honour the agreements ain't the problem, it is those that demand improved educational standards and get punished for asking that seem to be your problem?

Let our consciences be the judge.

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Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by Ibegtodiffer: 3:38pm On Dec 11, 2020
Gabbriell:


You see what ASUU is talking about?

How is 4.09 almost 5

Education in Nigeria is in a pitiable state.

If not FG habit of shifting GOAL POST AND not implementing agreement that they freely signed there will be no need for strike.

[img]https://media./images/1e1c71d73b189d79ee331d9f5c0f437b/tenor.gif[/img]


FG: 2017...I will do this, I will do that (signed agreement ). ASUU call off strike....FG did nothing.

FG: 2019..I will do this, I will do that (signed agreement ). ASUU call off strike....FG did nothing.


FG: 2020..I will do this, I will do that (signed agreement ). NOW ASUU say them no trust this government again. Too many lies dey am.

Same Ngige was present in both 2017 agreement and 2019 agreement with ASUU and they failed to implement it. LET THEM GO TO COURT IF THEY (FG) THINK THEY ARE ON
THE RIGHT TRACK.


SHAME ON FG BOTH PAST AND PRESENT.


Ps: I no longer reply;
Senseless/ignorant mentions
mentions from GPPPA (Government Pay Per Post Agents)




I may have to adopt this your non-response tactics.
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by SirWarlock: 3:39pm On Dec 11, 2020
Gabbriell:


There was strike b4 the pandemic lockdown
And still doesn't take away from my point.
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by Ibegtodiffer: 3:45pm On Dec 11, 2020
wellmax:


ASUU is the most useless union in Nigeria, very selfish and ignorant academics.

Tell me how students have benefitted from the over 4 years strikes in 12 years?

Which area of our society has enough funds, is it Health, security, roads, judicial system? where?
But ASUU is the only one that will waste students life and hold government, I mean every government in this country to a ransom. I hate ASUU, I loathe everyone who supports ASUU.
All they care about is their pockets, every strike is all about pay. Abeg abeg

By the time you will realize it, it will be late to undo, just like Buhari's emergence as President.

If you are a student, go to your school & count how many Lecture halls, Hostels, Buses, Labs/equipments, books, etc that have "FGN" on them. Those are FG projects.

Anyone with TETFUND, NEEDS ASSESSMENT, ETF are all product of ASUU struggles.

A lot of folks don't know, but that is the truth.

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Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by ProphetM0hammad: 3:53pm On Dec 11, 2020
Ibegtodiffer:


Why is it that you just don't look at the failure of governments? Your comments are generally sound, but rather than dwell, genuinely on solutions, you blame ASUU.

Government make promises, sign documents and for 11 years, they honour the agreements in bits, mostly after strikes.

It doesn't bother you that no government presence is ever felt in public universities except after ASUU strikes.

Yet, those who refused to honour the agreements ain't the problem, it is those that demand improved educational standards and get punished for asking that seem to be your problem?

Let our consciences be the judge.
I'm not taking sides.

If we are still recycling same set of leaders from Military era till now then no amount of strikes will improve the education sector.
ASUU members themselves are partisans, I'm sure they are already planning 2023 elections maybe talking about Peter Obi, or Atiku or others. Same old corrupt fools.
You elect them and start making demands, wasting student's time.
Forget my first statement, I'm on the students side.
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by ProphetM0hammad: 3:58pm On Dec 11, 2020
Ibegtodiffer:


By the time you will realize it, it will be late to undo, just like Buhari's emergence as President.

If you are a student, go to your school & count how many Lecture halls, Hostels, Buses, Labs/equipments, books, etc that have "FGN" on them. Those are FG projects.

Anyone with TETFUND, NEEDS ASSESSMENT, ETF are all product of ASUU struggles.

A lot of folks don't know, but that is the truth.
But this strike came about as a result of IPPIS and the Government stopping the salaries of the lecturers who didn't migrate to the platform .It's very usual for ASUU to include improvement of public universites inbetween their original demands to make it look more interesting.
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by Ibegtodiffer: 4:06pm On Dec 11, 2020
wellmax:


Rubbish, so you want primary schools to also be going on dtrike, i ee how much you love Nigeria.
ASUU has been fighting successive government, isn't it time to look inwards and understand that the structure, formation and objective of ASUU is totally faulty. See our students now running to Ghana, South Africa and Benin for education. Ask them why, they will tell you because of strike. 4 year course, you spend 6 years in school. They end up destabilizing lives, even JAMB calendar is disrupted because of selfish mindless ASUU.

Give ASUU the entire national budget and see how they will end up going on strike with nothing to show for it.

Abeg, ASUU is the most useless and selfish union in Nigeria today.
You may hate the present government for your wailing obligations, but let me remind you that ASUU has been going on strike from time immemorial. Are private unis more funded than public unis? What is ASUU's problem.

ASUU and thunder, I wonder who strike more. Nonsensical nonsense.

Clearly you are either a very young man who lacks sufficient information on history, or you're only trying to win an argument rather than being factual.

Years back, Primary and Secondary schools were the hub of strikes. The same FG treatment on ASUU led them into giving up. Subsequently, they've been largely handed over to State governments. The outcome is out there for all to see. 14 Million out of school children, largely because they can't afford and/or access it.

On the Ghana as point of reference. Ghana Universities Teachers went on 2 years strike for their Government to solve the issues of universities once and for all.

On South Africa, it doesn't even add up. How many black Nationals of South African origin are graduates? The number of African students in SA Universities more than doubles the number of indigenous black South Africans. Moreover, how many Nigerians can afford the amount paid in South African Universities?

It is government subsidies which ASUU fights for, that is sustaining the Universities and makes it affordable for the poor populace. If in doubt, Covenant University is not far. Ask.

In the long run, ASUU struggles benefits the average Nigerian. If requesting for their own welfare is why you think they're selfish, then ask questions. Lecturers in Polytechnics, Colleges of Education and affiliate institutions earn more than their counterparts in universities!!! Ask b4 u disagree pls. Why is that? FG has not reviewed University Lecturers pay for almost 12years now! Minimum wage for ASUU members is N900 flat. Ask b4 you disagree pls.

These are all verifiable facts. ASUU may not be perfect in their workings. But against the FG, believe it or not, ASUU is not guilty.

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Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by Gabbriell: 4:24pm On Dec 11, 2020
Ibegtodiffer:


I may have to adopt this your non-response tactics.

grin grin grin grin
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by Gabbriell: 4:29pm On Dec 11, 2020
Ibegtodiffer:


Why is it that you just don't look at the failure of governments? Your comments are generally sound, but rather than dwell, genuinely on solutions, you blame ASUU.

Government make promises, sign documents and for 11 years, they honour the agreements in bits, mostly after strikes.

It doesn't bother you that no government presence is ever felt in public universities except after ASUU strikes.

Yet, those who refused to honour the agreements ain't the problem, it is those that demand improved educational standards and get punished for asking that seem to be your problem?

Let our consciences be the judge.

Well said sir.

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Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by wellmax(m): 4:33pm On Dec 11, 2020
Ibegtodiffer:


By the time you will realize it, it will be late to undo, just like Buhari's emergence as President.

If you are a student, go to your school & count how many Lecture halls, Hostels, Buses, Labs/equipments, books, etc that have "FGN" on them. Those are FG projects.

Anyone with TETFUND, NEEDS ASSESSMENT, ETF are all product of ASUU struggles.

A lot of folks don't know, but that is the truth.

So what else does ASUU want. FG has also intervened in several sectors of the nation. They have done it in health, was that a result of strikes, government has done some intervention in infrastructural development, was that a result of strikes too.

Strikes as used by ASUU is very very wrong move. The earlier they change tactics, the better.

ASUU is evil.
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by Ibegtodiffer: 4:39pm On Dec 11, 2020
ProphetM0hammad:

But this strike came about as a result of IPPIS and the Government stopping the salaries of the lecturers who didn't migrate to the platform .It's very usual for ASUU to include improvement of public universites inbetween their original demands to make it look more interesting.

Are you based in Nigeria? Because it doesn't seem so, with due respect. And if I'm correct, then I'm sorry, nothing is going to make sense to you.
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by Ibegtodiffer: 4:53pm On Dec 11, 2020
ProphetM0hammad:

I'm not taking sides.

If we are still recycling same set of leaders from Military era till now then no amount of strikes will improve the education sector.
ASUU members themselves are partisans, I'm sure they are already planning 2023 elections maybe talking about Peter Obi, or Atiku or others. Same old corrupt fools.
You elect them and start making demands, wasting student's time.
Forget my first statement, I'm on the students side.

You're so funny. I've been chatting with you for weeks. But for every Comment of yours, I sense a disconnect from Nigeria.

Less than 10% of academics are Professors and above 60 years. A lot is evolving in academia in Nigeria. Self and group funded researches. Your idea of bribe seeking, Old men, pot bellied and alcohol driven Academics in Nigeria has significantly changed. They've largely left the system because it can't sustain their lifestyle.

You have a large population of younger ones, who understand, to a larger extent, the global repositioning and are unhappy that they're being left behind.

If a government is allotting over N1.89 Trillion for infrastructures in Niger while N70B is the reason it's public universities are shut down for almost a year, then every patriotic Nigerian should be worried.
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by wellmax(m): 5:00pm On Dec 11, 2020
Ibegtodiffer:


Clearly you are either a very young man who lacks sufficient information on history, or you're only trying to win an argument rather than being factual.

Years back, Primary and Secondary schools were the hub of strikes. The same FG treatment on ASUU led them into giving up. Subsequently, they've been largely handed over to State governments. The outcome is out there for all to see. 14 Million out of school children, largely because they can't afford and/or access it.

On the Ghana as point of reference. Ghana Universities Teachers went on 2 years strike for their Government to solve the issues of universities once and for all.

On South Africa, it doesn't even add up. How many black Nationals of South African origin are graduates? The number of African students in SA Universities more than doubles the number of indigenous black South Africans. Moreover, how many Nigerians can afford the amount paid in South African Universities?

It is government subsidies which ASUU fights for, that is sustaining the Universities and makes it affordable for the poor populace. If in doubt, Covenant University is not far. Ask.

In the long run, ASUU struggles benefits the average Nigerian. If requesting for their own welfare is why you think they're selfish, then ask questions. Lecturers in Polytechnics, Colleges of Education and affiliate institutions earn more than their counterparts in universities!!! Ask b4 u disagree pls. Why is that? FG has not reviewed University Lecturers pay for almost 12years now! Minimum wage for ASUU members is N900 flat. Ask b4 you disagree pls.

These are all verifiable facts. ASUU may not be perfect in their workings. But against the FG, believe it or not, ASUU is not guilty.

Why did the primary and secondary school teachers stop strikes? They know it is not the sensible way out. It was never a result of government's suppression. Beside, private school were already offering affordable education. This was what happened.

You agreed that education is cheap in Nigeria, that is government's effort, not a result of ASUU relentless strikes.

Your explanations of Ghana and South Africa, I really do not understand the point you are trying to make. What does having more foreigners in the unis have to do with our subject of discourse. Nigerians go there for good education, knowing clearly when they will graduate.

FG provides cheap education, If the fees are not sufficient to sustain universities, why not push for total autonomy of universities. Of course ASUU will loose out, selfish union they are.

Minimum wage for ASUU members is N900 flat shocked shocked shocked Please stop this lie, I understand the system more than you think.

FG has not reviewed University Lecturers pay for almost 12years now Can we now agree that it is still about ASUU's pockets and not the students? Minimum wage affects public servants, ASUU want's a review of their own salary structure. Do you even understand this at all.

ASSU strike in Nigeria has never been about the students but about ASUU selfish ambitions.
With the introduction of IPPS, ASUU suddenly knows how to also develop its own software, what if every parastatals designs software for their own use?
They do not want to pay tax, they want to earn multiple salaries from FG, taking up positions for young graduates. Show me a more selfish union.
Abeg...
I spent 7 years for a 5 year course in OAU, another 2 years for 1 year master, never failed a course, all courtesy ASUU, how did it benefit me?

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Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by Gabbriell: 5:37pm On Dec 11, 2020
wellmax:


? Ogun will kill you if you never benefitted from Nigeria. Useless

grin grin grin
Simple question you no fit answer. Thunder fire ogun your god
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by Rilwayne001: 6:44pm On Dec 11, 2020
http://saharareporters.com/2020/12/11/pay-your-rent-or-pack-out%E2%80%94nigerian-landlords-students-clash-over-hostel-rent-ASUU-strike


This issue of Landlords is there, and we're all getting caught up in it. My rent will end by end if this month, will have to pay for another 6 months SMH. cry embarassed

It'll not be well fg and ASUU
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by dahunsi12(m): 8:51pm On Dec 11, 2020
Only reasonable comment ever.
Thanks bro.


wellmax:


Why did the primary and secondary school teachers stop strikes? They know it is not the sensible way out. It was never a result of government's suppression. Beside, private school were already offering affordable education. This was what happened.

You agreed that education is cheap in Nigeria, that is government's effort, not a result of ASUU relentless strikes.

Your explanations of Ghana and South Africa, I really do not understand the point you are trying to make. What does having more foreigners in the unis have to do with our subject of discourse. Nigerians go there for good education, knowing clearly when they will graduate.

FG provides cheap education, If the fees are not sufficient to sustain universities, why not push for total autonomy of universities. Of course ASUU will loose out, selfish union they are.

Minimum wage for ASUU members is N900 flat shocked shocked shocked Please stop this lie, I understand the system more than you think.

FG has not reviewed University Lecturers pay for almost 12years now Can we now agree that it is still about ASUU's pockets and not the students? Minimum wage affects public servants, ASUU want's a review of their own salary structure. Do you even understand this at all.

ASSU strike in Nigeria has never been about the students but about ASUU selfish ambitions.
With the introduction of IPPS, ASUU suddenly knows how to also develop its own software, what if every parastatals designs software for their own use?
They do not want to pay tax, they want to earn multiple salaries from FG, taking up positions for young graduates. Show me a more selfish union.
Abeg...
I spent 7 years for a 5 year course in OAU, another 2 years for 1 year master, never failed a course, all courtesy ASUU, how did it benefit me?
Re: ASUU Has Spent 1,500 Days On Strike In 21 Years by updatechange(m): 9:24pm On Dec 11, 2020
Gabbriell:


You see what ASUU is talking about?

How is 4.09 almost 5

Education in Nigeria is in a pitiable state.

If not FG habit of shifting GOAL POST AND not implementing agreement that they freely signed there will be no need for strike.

[img]https://media./images/1e1c71d73b189d79ee331d9f5c0f437b/tenor.gif[/img]


FG: 2017...I will do this, I will do that (signed agreement ). ASUU call off strike....FG did nothing.

FG: 2019..I will do this, I will do that (signed agreement ). ASUU call off strike....FG did nothing.


FG: 2020..I will do this, I will do that (signed agreement ). NOW ASUU say them no trust this government again. Too many lies dey am.

Same Ngige was present in both 2017 agreement and 2019 agreement with ASUU and they failed to implement it. LET THEM GO TO COURT IF THEY (FG) THINK THEY ARE ON
THE RIGHT TRACK.


SHAME ON FG BOTH PAST AND PRESENT.


Ps: I no longer reply;
Senseless/ignorant mentions
mentions from GPPPA (Government Pay Per Post Agents)





I don't have your time.

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