DonOms:
Yes, number recycling will continue so the number blocks are not wasted since it costs these telecoms company (TELCOS) money to get extra numbers.

What I expect the TELCOS to do is to update the NIN info at the point of re-registering a recycled number i.e. a recycled number will get updated with the NIN and data of the new customer buying the recycled number.

You valid

i regist with my glo line and I lost d sim last year they (glo) hv refuse to retrieve d line for me, they said I can't retrieve the line because is more than five month I use it last.

What happens to CUG lines owned by individuals or Companies?

BluntNigerian:
With time, the NIN Synchronisation will be fully completed for all the phone numbers in existence, meaning that every phone number in existence belongs to a known human being, and information about the owner of the phone number can be easily retrieved from the NIN Database, would the Network Providers still continue to be doing Number Recycling?
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I need expert responses, please.

Well, NIMC will simply have to re-write their framework to accommodate for these dynamics so that an innocent man does not suddenly become a thief on account of owning a used or recycled number - remember this case?
Court awards N10m to man detained for using former SIM Card of Buhari’s daughter
Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/05/court-awards-n10m-to-man-detained-for-using-former-sim-card-of-buharis-daughter/

Exactly! Not an issue at all. Registering the recycled/new sim card will require that an NIN be provided. Or once a number is recycled, Telco's will automatically delete all the owners data associated with the sim card.

Exc2000:
No big deal here


Once you buy a recycled line, upon the point of SIM Card registration you provide your NIN

Clueless Govt. They don't think very well, always using bully to pass their message.

Cantonese:
I think many things need to be cleared up. Hopefully also there will be no point asking for another form of identification after this.

this is what you get from weaker policies from stupid policy makers.
the from obj term in office is still with me, this one was first meant to be an identification card now it's turning an online number.
how would this get to reach those in the rural area?
can the entire nation be covered in ten weeks?
why give a standardized mode of identification?
can we have the national ID, voters card and the international passport all fused into one single card or document?
can't we make it auto 18? (as soon as a child clocks 18 yrs he or she go get the passport, which has all the rights and eligibility on it).
soon as another government be it apc or pdp comes on we would start afresh.

oladimeji2me:
Does that mean foreigners won't be able to use our sim card and driver's license as a result of this new policy?

NIN registration is not only for Nigerian citizens. Legal Residents (foreigners) also register for NIN

Driedfish:
Yes, they’ll continue to do number recycling because aint nobody got time to be putting in fresh work and effort into a failed contraption like Nigeria.


We Nigerians should stick with recycled and second hands numbers / products.

please what is number recycling. does it mean that if I have 4 numbers it will be recycle or destroy? please help a brother

Sanchez01:

Yes, well, true. You are correct in some ways, save the goal this time is to prevent people from owning not more than four SIM cards; one from the 4 major ISPs.

SIM registrations never needed a BVN. All they needed before now was a valid, government-approved ID. The number or SIM was never mapped via BVN. This time, it will be different as a number mapped by NIN won't be recycled into the market as against the usual practice.

There is no doubt that this sudden move is coming on the heels of the ENDSARS movement. The suddenness or note of urgency is an indication that the government is likely desperate at preventing another protest. Perhaps I am overthinking the situation.

Sim registration does not require you bvn but once you use that number to register your bvn, it is mapped on it already. That is while some transaction only require you Mobile number linked to your bvn. This government is clueless.

BluntNigerian:
I don't understand the need for all these numerous biometric databases in the first place..

Nigerians should be vigilant and resist any policies that will enslave and futher take away their freedom. If nothing is done to stop this, the evil government will execute the plan of linking NIN to all public services as part of the plan to create the beast system (fascist totalitarian state). This is to track / control you and also make it easy to deny public services when the time comes. It is a case of problem, reaction, solution. They create a problem and then once there is a reaction, they implement their agenda.

NIN program is a DNA harvesting scheme and it tied into COVID-19 globalists agenda. You will see what will happen next year once the COVID-19 vaccine is available in Nigeria.

See https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/08/fg-dumps-plastic-national-identity-card-for-digital-identification/

See https://www.biometricupdate.com/202008/nigerias-national-biometric-id-proposed-to-go-digital-add-dna

May God deliver Nigeria

DonOms:
Yes, number recycling will continue so the number blocks are not wasted since it costs these telecoms company (TELCOS) money to get extra numbers.

What I expect the TELCOS to do is to update the NIN info at the point of re-registering a recycled number i.e. a recycled number will get updated with the NIN and data of the new customer buying the recycled number.

please bro. what do you mean by recycle number, does it mean destroying the number? and more so, don't you think what telecom company need to do is put this thing online and allow it customers do it there rather than going to queue over there? don't be annoy for my silly question bro

Awoo88:

Sim registration does not require you bvn but once you use that number to register your bvn, it is mapped on it already. That is while some transaction only require you Mobile number linked to your bvn. This government is clueless.

From the banking sector, it is mapped but the same cannot be said if the telco sector.

Although the BVN has your primary number, it can still be updated or changed periodically. And that the BVN has a number linked to you does not mean much when telecommunication is considered. Their operations vary. BVN is the banking sector's KYC and NIN will be the telco's KYC.

wen oda countries are discussing vaccines and vaccination.....we are here discussing sim and NIN.....wat a misplace priority on d part of our government. i just pity the masses and d average citizens

Sanchez01:

From the banking sector, it is mapped but the same cannot be said if the telco sector.

Although the BVN has your primary number, it can still be updated or changed periodically. And that the BVN has a number linked to you does not mean much when telecommunication is considered. Their operations vary. BVN is the banking sector's KYC and NIN will be the telco's KYC.

When you put it like that, it made sense but still the government is till clueless. When registering for NIN, your email and phone number are required. That is why when applying for national passport, your NIN is required. And any information you supply different from the one on your NIN requires court affidavit. These data can be migrated without putting Nigerians through hardship. Only people without NIN should be made to register for it. You can not operate an account without bvn meaning without NIN. Those with secondary mobile numbers can update theirs from the comfort of their home. Besides, what happens to foreigners?? What happens to those on short visit to the country?

jacoik:
please bro. what do you mean by recycle number, does it mean destroying the number? and more so, don't you think what telecom company need to do is put this thing online and allow it customers do it there rather than going to queue over there? don't be annoy for my silly question bro

Recyling numbers means to reallocate a number not actively used for over 3 months to another customer. You stop using your number for over three months, it gets deactivated and made available as a new sim for someone else to buy and register it.

Actually the TELCOs are putting it online. I have matched my MTN lines with my NIN through the link they provided:
mtnonline(dot)com/nim/
Although it is said that physical matching may or may not be required later.

Ordinary bvn you can't do with a recycled SIM because there's already a bvn attached to the number.

The worst part is that you can link your bank account with the same recycled number that already has another bvn attached to it because the bank officials simply don't bother to check.

With this nin of a stuff, it's going to be one hell of a ride.

Number recycling will not stop.

Rather, once a mobile number is determined to have become dormant and out of use for the prescribed period, the personal details of the former owner can be erased at the time of reissue to a new subscriber.

NIN synchronization with a SIM card is useless and fruitless effort by this incompetent and ineptitude individuals at the elms of affairs of this nation. There are so many relevant and important issues to look into, this is not one of them. It will also make it difficult for tourist or travelers to secure SIM card in Nigeria. I am not sure of any major country with similar law around the world. SIM registration should be enough and phone already has a gps tracking in case of crime investigations. The government failed to invest money in technological advancement of different sector. Can we all just agree that this geographic representation called Nigeria (Nigger Area) is a failed one? And we all should works towards a disunion. This amalgamation is not working, how long do we have to unhappily stays in this failed union. We can be a separate country and still work and trade with each other.

Guess the Malam never thought about this.

Sanchez01:

Its a tricky question. I believe the NIN synchronisation will force the hands of telcos into either pushing the period of recycling backward, say two years or might be totally abolished.

Even before now, there have been instances where an old customer's details still show up on new customer details on specific telco work tools.

The NIN synchronisation does not in any way favour telcos because a sizeable amount of their gross comes from SIM sales. The idea of recycling in the first place is to leave no stone unturned. But with the new move, it would mean your number becomes your identity, and as such, can't be handled carelessly.

(@bolded) That's the aim.

kutashi:


It won't stop it! All they need to do is to keep track record and time line of when the line recycled! If Mr A is presently using the number, his NIN and all other infos will be active until he discontinue using it and recycle by the Network.

Immediately Mr. B start using the same number, his NIN and other infos become active on the line.

In case of theft, criminal cases, or any court cases that happened to involve the SIM, the network will just provide the time of who, when and what regarding the activities on the line but it's highly advisable if you lost your phone to quickly make a formal report to the police.

I had an experience on this and GLO did a fantastic job with just only email where I detailed what happened with date because I keep records a lot! And they confirmed my story and responded immediately!

(@bolded) This is exactly what they don't do.
They would just wipe out all the information about the previous owner from their own database too..
A lot of police tracking that got the wrong persons involved are as a result of wrong information given to the police by the network providers who just provided the information about the current owner of such numbers to the police.

This move practically brings an end to Sim card recycling. Major breakthrough indeed to the reckless action of Sim card recycling.
In fact, this may also end Sim card expiration so that once you have registered a Sim card which is automatically linked to your BVN and NIN, it becomes yours forever and your family can even inherit it as an asset when you died.
Hope I am not wrong. Cheers

BluntNigerian:
(@bolded) This is exactly what they don't do.
They would just wipe out all the information about the previous owner from their own database too..
A lot of police tracking that got the wrong persons involved are as a result of wrong information given to the police by the network providers who just provided the information about the current owner of such numbers to the police.

Seriously?

May be number recycling will be a thing of the past from then.