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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:20pm On Dec 18, 2020
PMB addressing the RESCUED kankara kids

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 9:24pm On Dec 18, 2020
As usual. Misplaced talks and unnecessary straining of the jugular.

As for me, I maintain a stance that this should never have happened. All security forces (outside the Military) should be receiving a lot of demotions, forced retirements etc.

Alas, kudos! The FireBrigade got in just in time

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 9:27pm On Dec 18, 2020
bidexiii:
PMB addressing the RESCUED kankara kids
Another close shave. Will we learn?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Faithful007: 9:32pm On Dec 18, 2020
Toju200:
the Helo also has FLIR pods so the people that mounted the Search lights are fools abi.
Also with the kind of weapons the terrorists had it will be unable to bring down the helo.
remember it's a civilian bell 412. A direct burst of auto fire will likely crash that aircraft.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 9:38pm On Dec 18, 2020
bidexiii:


First of all it was my diction ?

Most sources revealed they where rescued, I don't know where you got your own info liar


Rescued Nigerian schoolboys brought back to families in state capital
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/12/18/africa/rescued-nigerian-schoolboys-state-government-intl/index.html


This is CNN

Now liar here is NAF, I know it hurts you course youve always undermined the efforts of the military. Now go and hug a transformer


RESCUE OF ABDUCTED STUDENTS OF GSSS KANKARA, KATSINA STATE

[/b]Three hundred and forty four boys abducted from Government Science Secondary School (GSSS) Kankara, Katsina State on 11 December 2020 were safely returned to the Katsina State Government House this morning, escorted by a combined team of personnel from various security agencies with air cover provided by the Nigerian Air Force (NAF).

As from the early hours of 12 December 2020, the NAF deployed additional air assets, including additional Intelligence Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR) aircraft, to Katsina to provide persistent surveillance over identified areas of interest within Katsina and Zamfara States, whilst maintaining offensive air presence to deny the abductors freedom of action.[b]


NAF Medical personnel were also part of the Team that provided immediate medical care to the boys after their release from the forest, while additional NAF Special Forces personnel were also deployed to provide support



From the defense HQ

#PressRelease #DHQUpdate

TROOPS OF OPERATION HADARIN DAJI RESCUE ABDUCTED STUDENTS OF GOVERNMENT SCIENCE SECONDARY SCHOOL KANKARA, KATSINA STATE

[/b]1. Keeping to its promise to ensure the safe return of all abducted students of Government Science Secondary School Kankara, Katsina State, troops of Operation HADARIN DAJI rescued all 344 abducted students on Thursday 17 December 2020.

2. The students were rescued on the heels of credible intelligence by our gallant troops, with high degree of professionalism to ensure they were all rescued alive.[b]


3. The Military High Command commends troops of Operation Hadarin Daji including all security agencies for their dexterity. The general public who volunteered information are also hereby appreciated.

JOHN ENENCHE
Major General
Coordinator
Defence Media Operation
Defence Headquarters

If you have the dexterity to look at my contributions in depth. You will find l hardly use the term LIAR.

Even if a person is ignorant it's thier perspective albeit it misguided.

But you have called me a LIAR.

Below several news clips as well as the press briefing from the army PR Gen. Enenche. After watching the clips will you be gentleman and apologise ❓


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp20LxLvDGQ



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkqbFYn0Fcc



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gBGTjHXH2I



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sYWSmJWoJY

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 9:43pm On Dec 18, 2020
Faithful007:
remember it's a civilian bell 412. A direct burst of auto fire will likely crash that aircraft.
it's a security type armoured bell 412.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by LTGEN: 9:46pm On Dec 18, 2020
The NAF
On Twitter has detailed the actions it took from the Time the Boys were Kidnapped.
The NAF disclosed the use of
NAF SF
NAF ISR
NAF FLIR
They also indicated they restricted movement of The Bandits .
The NA through DHQ has indicated the use of
Encirclement .
NA SF
Job well done.
Both Forces also indicated Bandits were under Constant surveillance for 6 Straight days.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:48pm On Dec 18, 2020
komekn:


If you have the dexterity to look at my contributions in depth. You will find l hardly use the term LIAR.

Even if a person is ignorant it's thier perspective albeit it misguided.

But you have called me a LIAR.

Below several news clips as well as the press briefing from the army PR Gen. Enenche. After watching the clips will you be gentleman and apologise ❓


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp20LxLvDGQ



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkqbFYn0Fcc



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gBGTjHXH2I



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sYWSmJWoJY












First it was my diction, after it was "all the sources" that claimed RELEASE and now it videos.
Anyway have watched that same channels video, you have no point to prove here. Either released or rescued, you're just beating around the bush.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:53pm On Dec 18, 2020
LTGEN:
The NAF
On Twitter has detailed the actions it took from the Time the Boys were Kidnapped.
The NAF disclosed the use of
NAF SF
NAF ISR
NAF FLIR
They also indicated they restricted movement of The Bandits .
The NA through DHQ has indicated the use of
Encirclement .
NA SF
Job well done.
Both Forces also indicated Bandits were under Constant surveillance for 6 Straight days.


Yeap they denied them movement, food & water etc they had no option than to let the kids go, how will they carter for over 300 boys.
I hope we learn from these and do something urgent about this banditry/ kidnapping. Its really destroying the north !

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Faithful007: 10:01pm On Dec 18, 2020
Toju200:
it's a security type armoured bell 412.
https://defpost.com/nigerian-air-force-inducts-second-bell-412-helicopter-fleet/

It came from a civilian source. armoring on civil aircraft will only stop handguns. A direct automatic fire will penetrate it. ak rounds and machine gun cartridges are very powerful. they'll easily tear through.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 10:11pm On Dec 18, 2020
Toju200:
the Helo also has FLIR pods so the people that mounted the Search lights are fools abi.
Also with the kind of weapons the terrorists had it will be unable to bring down the helo.


From the pictures you have posted this is a Bell 412. If l remember correctly they were procured by the former Governor of River's state and then seized by then Jonathan federal government.

First of all l am sure you can clearly see there is absolutely no FLIR and or Thermal imaging camera and or pod on the helicopter.

Boko Haram have HMG on thier gun trucks a low flying noisy helicopter with a huge searchlight in the night is essentially sitting duck.

I admire once again your optimism but you cannot turn white to black.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 10:17pm On Dec 18, 2020
komekn:



From the pictures you have posted this is a Bell 412. If l remember correctly they were procured by the former Governor of River's state and then seized by then Jonathan federal government.

First of all l am sure you can clearly see there is absolutely no FLIR and or Thermal imaging camera and or pod on the helicopter.

Boko Haram have HMG on thier gun trucks a low flying noisy helicopter with a huge searchlight in the night is essentially sitting duck.

I admire once again your optimism but you cannot turn white to black.
What Boko Haram?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by rka1: 10:19pm On Dec 18, 2020
Faithful007:
https://defpost.com/nigerian-air-force-inducts-second-bell-412-helicopter-fleet/

It came from a civilian source. armoring on civil aircraft will only stop handguns. A direct automatic fire will penetrate it. ak rounds and machine gun cartridges are very powerful. they'll easily tear through.

"The two helicopters were handed over to the NAF on 27 January 2017 after they were seized on 7 November 2016 when the importer could not produce end user certificates. They were originally destined for Rivers State to protect oil and gas facilities and were equipped with night vision equipment, armour plating and cameras. They were supposed to bypass import duties. The new helicopter will be deployed to the Northeast as part of the efforts to strengthen the counterterrorism campaign against Boko Haram."

They were manufactured with armour plating.

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/military-helicopters/nigerian-air-force-commissions-second-bell-412-into-service/

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 10:21pm On Dec 18, 2020
komekn:



From the pictures you have posted this is a Bell 412. If l remember correctly they were procured by the former Governor of River's state and then seized by then Jonathan federal government.

First of all l am sure you can clearly see there is absolutely no FLIR and or Thermal imaging camera and or pod on the helicopter.

Boko Haram have HMG on thier gun trucks a low flying noisy helicopter with a huge searchlight in the night is essentially sitting duck.

I admire once again your optimism but you cannot turn white to black.

You have a habit of arguing aimlessly, pointlessly without doing any basic research.

Is this FLIR not clear enough for you?

The Nigerian military did all in it's powers to deny the bandits any freedom of action.

They deserve to be commended for quick action, professionalism and bravery.

They all deserve medals for the actions taken to rescue these boys.

Helicopters with FLIR, Special Forces, ground troops, heavy weapons they deployed with speed!!!

This is by far more impressive than the rescue the Americans were praised all over for recently.

The Troops and commanders deserve more than just praise.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by iboboyswag(m): 10:21pm On Dec 18, 2020
rka1:


"The two helicopters were handed over to the NAF on 27 January 2017 after they were seized on 7 November 2016 when the importer could not produce end user certificates. They were originally destined for Rivers State to protect oil and gas facilities and were equipped with night vision equipment, armour plating and cameras. They were supposed to bypass import duties. The new helicopter will be deployed to the Northeast as part of the efforts to strengthen the counterterrorism campaign against Boko Haram."

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/military-helicopters/nigerian-air-force-commissions-second-bell-412-into-service/


Thank you... Continue to bust their bubbles and wrong narratives

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 10:27pm On Dec 18, 2020
kabe1:


You have a habit of arguing aimlessly, pointlessly without doing any basic research.

Is this FLIR not clear enough for you?

The Nigerian military did all in it's powers to deny the bandits any freedom of action.

They deserve to be commended for quick action, professionalism and bravery.

They all deserve medals for the actions taken to rescue these boys.

Helicopters with FLIR, Special Forces, ground troops, heavy weapons they deployed with speed!!!

This is by far more than the rescue the Americans were praised all over for recently.

The Troops and commanders deserve more than just praise.
Komekn is hopeless. If the Bell helicopter were indeed sitting ducks, I'm sure they wouldn't have lasted this long in active combat deployments.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 10:37pm On Dec 18, 2020
Xbee007:

Komekn is hopeless. If the Bell helicopter were indeed sitting ducks, I'm sure they wouldn't have lasted this long in active combat deployments.

He argues like there's a screw loose.

The Bell Helicopters can be armed with J6-C rocket pods, they have armour plating, they can fly and conduct ISR at night, they can be armed with 50 calibre machine guns.

How do you possibly arm them again, man!!!!


If this was an American led operation it would have been non-stop praise singing.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 10:45pm On Dec 18, 2020
FoolaniBandit:
This picture is not recent but it tells us a lot about the rough play that is going on in the North. It's like smoking cigarettes in a petrol station, like sticking ones hand in a snakes hole.
Many people are ignorant, or would I say deliberately wants to ignore the imminent danger that this budding terrorism in the North West portends . So called security expert and analyst are also not sounding the alarm loud enough. What we have now is still dress rehearsal, by the time the bubble will finally burst, Boko Haram's insurgency will be like child's play

Bros, there is nothing wrong in seeking alternative measures to peace. What the Katsina Governor did is not wrong, we cannot bomb and kill everybody. Even American with the world's highest weapons cannot, that's way they are currently negotiating with the Taliban.

The Katsina Governor's approach has been previously tried successfully in Nigeria with the Niger-Delta militancy.

In Australia the government bought weapons from private individuals too.

Kinetic and Non-Kinetic approaches to peace work.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by LTGEN: 10:47pm On Dec 18, 2020
Former Hostage DSS Student who made video interviewed on Arise TV
Summary
Bandits were afraid of Jets / Helicopters Circling ahead.
Lack of Food ( No enabling Locals) They were fed once a day
Given water Twice a day
They were beaten ( Morning, Afternoon and Evening)
He was told to say the ( Bandits) were BH
Based on what he experienced No they were not BH
Video cuts off.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by rka1: 10:53pm On Dec 18, 2020
LTGEN:
Former Hostage DSS Student who made video interviewed on Arise TV
Summary
Bandits were afraid of Jets / Helicopters Circling ahead.
Lack of Food ( No enabling Locals) They were fed once a day
Given water Twice a day
They were beaten ( Morning, Afternoon and Evening)
He was told to say the ( Bandits) were BH
Based on what he experienced No they were not BH
Video cuts off.

It doesn't fit their narrative, but we will continue to expose their hypocrisy.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Valkrie: 10:58pm On Dec 18, 2020
bidexiii:



Yeap they denied them movement, food & water etc they had no option than to let the kids go, how will they carter for over 300 boys.
I hope we learn from these and do something urgent about this banditry/ kidnapping. Its really destroying the north !

They encircled them and denied them food and water and the kidnappers had no option than to let the boys go free...good analysis and script but how manage in all these, the kidnapper got away with no arrest in an open plane with 24 hrs eagle eyes from the military on them....? If you have ever been to Katsina and nearby state boundary it you would understand what I mean..just like I earlier comment...we all rub powder on each other and pretend all is fine...I just dey laff...!! Very good we analyse and speak english here trying to sound smart...but wetin dey happen dey happen...those in intelligence and on ground here know wetin dey go on and just dey laff too...!!


Note: Don't be surprise tomorrow they get some paid agents and tell them to pretend and claim to be the kidnappers been arrested...e no pass wetin go fit happen..!!

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Edopesin: 11:22pm On Dec 18, 2020
Valkrie:


They encircled them and denied them food and water and the kidnappers had no option than to let the boys go free...good analysis and script but how manage in all these, the kidnapper got away with no arrest in an open plane with 24 hrs eagle eyes from the military on them....? If you have ever been to Katsina and nearby state boundary it you would understand what I mean..just like I earlier comment...we all rub powder on each other and pretend all is fine...I just dey laff...!! Very good we analyse and speak english here trying to sound smart...but wetin dey happen dey happen...those in intelligence and on ground here know wetin dey go on and just dey laff too...!!


Note: Don't be surprise tomorrow they get some paid agents and tell them to pretend and claim to be the kidnappers been arrested...e no pass wetin go fit happen..!!

from the bolded you're essentially saying that your mind is already made and nothing else will make you believe otherwise

You will believe or choose not to believe whatever as long as it pushes your hate agenda

The boys have been freed and whatever means was used is justified

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 11:30pm On Dec 18, 2020
Valkrie:


They encircled them and denied them food and water and the kidnappers had no option than to let the boys go free...good analysis and script but how manage in all these, the kidnapper got away with no arrest in an open plane with 24 hrs eagle eyes from the military on them....? If you have ever been to Katsina and nearby state boundary it you would understand what I mean..just like I earlier comment...we all rub powder on each other and pretend all is fine...I just dey laff...!! Very good we analyse and speak english here trying to sound smart...but wetin dey happen dey happen...those in intelligence and on ground here know wetin dey go on and just dey laff too...!!


Note: Don't be surprise tomorrow they get some paid agents and tell them to pretend and claim to be the kidnappers been arrested...e no pass wetin go fit happen..!!


They might let them go on the condition of not hurting the kids. I believe the military operations are not through yet and there are a lot of things hidden that we can't know.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by lebuhsi(m): 11:51pm On Dec 18, 2020
bidexiii:



They might let them go on the condition of not hurting the kids. I believe the military operations are not through yet and there are a lot of things hidden that we can't know.

Major Gen. John eneche was on arise news this evening when asked about bringing the criminals that did this to justice, he said the military OP was not yet over and said something about clearing the forest before he cut himself

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 11:51pm On Dec 18, 2020
lebuhsi:


Major Gen. John eneche was on arise news this evening when asked about bringing the criminals that did this to justice, he said the military OP was not yet over and said something about clearing the forest before he cut himself

Thanks man !

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by lebuhsi(m): 12:00am On Dec 19, 2020
bidexiii:


Thanks,,, man!

No problem, I seeing a lot of people saying ran some were paid and quoting a sum in dollars, while I'll not dispute or agree to this, the way I see it, the terrorist were cornered, their supplies were running out with no access to more suppliers(collaborators wouldn't have even dared to go near the location) if the boys had died of starvation, they certainly would have been next(eating leaves and drinking from stagnant ponds on day 3)! They should evade justice!
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 12:06am On Dec 19, 2020
Neutralized BHT\ISWAP by gallant troops of 401 SF brigade.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by QuietMynd: 1:52am On Dec 19, 2020
kabe1:


You have a habit of arguing aimlessly, pointlessly without doing any basic research.

Is this FLIR not clear enough for you?

The Nigerian military did all in it's powers to deny the bandits any freedom of action.

They deserve to be commended for quick action, professionalism and bravery.

They all deserve medals for the actions taken to rescue these boys.

Helicopters with FLIR, Special Forces, ground troops, heavy weapons they deployed with speed!!!

This is by far more impressive than the rescue the Americans were praised all over for recently.

The Troops and commanders deserve more than just praise.

Nah, I disagree.
NO one deserves a medal, the abduction shouldn't have taken place in the first place.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by LTGEN: 2:25am On Dec 19, 2020
Valkrie:


They encircled them and denied them food and water and the kidnappers had no option than to let the boys go free...good analysis and script but how manage in all these, the kidnapper got away with no arrest in an open plane with 24 hrs eagle eyes from the military on them....? If you have ever been to Katsina and nearby state boundary it you would understand what I mean..just like I earlier comment...we all rub powder on each other and pretend all is fine...I just dey laff...!! Very good we analyse and speak english here trying to sound smart...but wetin dey happen dey happen...those in intelligence and on ground here know wetin dey go on and just dey laff too...!!


Note: Don't be surprise tomorrow they get some paid agents and tell them to pretend and claim to be the kidnappers been arrested...e no pass wetin go fit happen..!!
The kid was there you weren’t.
The NAF SF were there
You weren’t.
NAF confirmed they were there with pictures
You weren’t.
NA SF were there
You weren’t.
The Kids independently confirmed that they could hear Jets/Helicopters circling over head
For 5.5 Straight days
You weren’t.
I guess We will believe your account.
There satisfied?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by LTGEN: 2:27am On Dec 19, 2020
bidexiii:



They might let them go on the condition of not hurting the kids. I believe the military operations are not through yet and there are a lot of things hidden that we can't know.
No one said anything about the Kidnappers going scot-free.
No one.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 7:53am On Dec 19, 2020
QuietMynd:


Nah, I disagree.
NO one deserves a medal, the abduction shouldn't have taken place in the first place.

There are abductions in America. Why should Nigeria, an active warzone be different?

Security is everybody's business. Just so you know, our security agencies are not gods, they need the cooperation of every citizen to succeed.

We have too many criminally minded people in Nigeria, that's the biggest problem.

This country needs an urgent reorientation.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 7:59am On Dec 19, 2020
Edopesin:


from the bolded you're essentially saying that your mind is already made and nothing else will make you believe otherwise

You will believe or choose not to believe whatever as long as it pushes your hate agenda

The boys have been freed and whatever means was used is justified

The fact is most of the people questioning the rescue of these boys are politically motivated.

They don't have the interest of the boys at heart, they just want an opportunity to blame the government in power.

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