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Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by jesusjnr2020(op): 9:20am On Dec 21, 2020
Dreyton36:
Holy spirit is the power of God?
How does that sound to you man
I need something convincing
If you say in the name of the father _which is God
In the name of the son_ let's say Jesus Christ
And the holy Spirit _ how does that mean the power of God

Or does God need the holy Spirit to be powerful ?

I don't still get you sir
Sorry if I confused you by my submission.

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. So He is a part of God's makeup. The Part that does the Works and makes things happen.

So the word "Spirit" can be used interchangeably with "Power", because that's what Spirit connotes.

It's just like someone who has become weak. You could say the person has lost his spirits. It's the spirit of man that gives him the ability to do things he does. So it could also be said to be the power of man.

I hope that makes more sense.

God bless.
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by Dreyton36: 9:25am On Dec 21, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
Sorry if I confused you by my submission.

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. So He is a part of God's makeup. The Part that does the Works and makes things happen.

So the word "Spirit" can be used interchangeably with "Power", because that's what Spirit connotes.

It's just like someone who has become weak. You could say the person has lost his spirits. It's the spirit of man that gives him the ability to do things he does. So it could also be said to be the power of man.

I hope that makes more sense.

God bless.
Just as you've said sir

You said holy Spirit is the spirit of God right ?
But I thought God himself is a spirit? Cuz that's what most preachers do say
So how can a spirit be having another spirit and why would a God be needing a spirit before he can manifest ?

Pls I wanna be clear
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by Dreyton36: 9:27am On Dec 21, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
He's the Power of God.
I don't wanna laugh but this is really funny sir
Holy spirit is the power of God huh Nigga are you fine ?

Is there anything greater or more powerful than God himself?

How can a holy spirit which God himself created be the power of God?
Answer me ooo
Cuz i know Las Las you'll run from my questions cuz you guys never for once have a reasonable and convincing answer
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by Chimasoka: 9:28am On Dec 21, 2020
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Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by jesusjnr2020(op): 9:39am On Dec 21, 2020
Dreyton36:
I don't wanna laugh but this is really funny sir
Holy spirit is the power of God huh Nigga are you fine ?

Is there anything greater or more powerful than God himself?

How can a holy spirit which God himself created be the power of God?
Answer me ooo
Cuz i know Las Las you'll run from my questions cuz you guys never for once have a reasonable and convincing answer
I really thought you wanted to learn but it obviously appears you're on a vain course.

It should have been easy for you to see the illustration I used of a man, who has a spirit which constitutes his make up and powers whatever he does.

But you couldn't because you don't really want to know the Truth. So bye.
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:42am On Dec 21, 2020
@Jesusjnr2020

Can you please share the publication of JWs where a specific date about Armageddon is mentioned?

You're just like the Jews who spread malicious lies against Jesus and his disciples!

© Jesus was sleeping with Mary Magdalene
© Jesus was gay
© Jesus was just a liar, impostor and magician
© Jesus' disciples stole his body and faked his resurrected


Just go to the Jews and you'll hear more and much more derogatory things about God's only begotten son. The Jews have published so many books about Jesus just to make people discard whatever his disciples penned down in the Bible!

So prove that you're not just a misinformed fake news carrier by pasting just one single publication of JWs where a specific date about Armageddon is mentioned. Not what the enemies of the organization said about them on social media! cheesy
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by xpansion(m): 6:37pm On Dec 21, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
When you lie and falsify things concerning Christ the Messiah, as the JWs are well known for, what do you expect?

Those men were "wise men"! Whichever source you dug that your whatever from cannot be more authentic than the translation given in King James Version. You have obvious reasons why you discredit it because it exposes your lies!

By the way, the other ideas you also brought up have been debunked like "the wise men" conspired with Herod".

Stop believing lies.

You'd eventually end up where all liars do.
Chia see me thinking you were even a preacher. You words makes you sound like a Pagan
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by xpansion(m): 6:39pm On Dec 21, 2020
And na you make them the servants of God. No go quote weitin no dey bible o
jesusjnr2020:
I'm sure if it disagreed with your translation like the King James you would have still shown it to me, lol!

Abeg carry your lies go jare. "The wise men conspired with Herod" according to you.

That's how you'd keep falsely accusing true men of God and still be talking Truth!

When you don't have any regard for Jesus the only begotten Son of God, what would one expect?

Next time you'd carry your falsehood and come to a thread speaking the Truth again.
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by jesusjnr2020(op): 6:49pm On Dec 21, 2020
xpansion:
And na you make them the servants of God. No go quote weitin no dey bible o
What else do they need to do to be men of God?

They acknowledged Jesus as King and Lord, and worshipped Him even while He was yet a baby.

Is that not enough to draw such a conclusion even if it wasn't explicitly stated in the Bible?
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by jesusjnr2020(op): 6:52pm On Dec 21, 2020
xpansion:
Chia see me thinking you were even a preacher. You words makes you sound like a Pagan
Thank God it's not up to men to decide who a true preacher or man of God is, so think whatever you want. It won't change what I am!
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:54pm On Dec 21, 2020
@ Jesusjnr2020

You claimed JWs are responsible for several failed prophecies. Please can you just paste one publication of JWs where a date was declared with regards to Armageddon? smiley


MaxInDHouse:
@Jesusjnr2020

Can you please share the publication of JWs where a specific date about Armageddon is mentioned?

You're just like the Jews who spread malicious lies against Jesus and his disciples!

© Jesus was sleeping with Mary Magdalene
© Jesus was gay
© Jesus was just a liar, impostor and magician
© Jesus' disciples stole his body and faked his resurrected


Just go to the Jews and you'll hear more and much more derogatory things about God's only begotten son. The Jews have published so many books about Jesus just to make people discard whatever his disciples penned down in the Bible!

So prove that you're not just a misinformed fake news carrier by pasting just one single publication of JWs where a specific date about Armageddon is mentioned. Not what the enemies of the organization said about them on social media! cheesy
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by jesusjnr2020(op): 7:15pm On Dec 21, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
@Jesusjnr2020

Can you please share the publication of JWs where a specific date about Armageddon is mentioned?

You're just like the Jews who spread malicious lies against Jesus and his disciples!

© Jesus was sleeping with Mary Magdalene
© Jesus was gay
© Jesus was just a liar, impostor and magician
© Jesus' disciples stole his body and faked his resurrected


Just go to the Jews and you'll hear more and much more derogatory things about God's only begotten son. The Jews have published so many books about Jesus just to make people discard whatever his disciples penned down in the Bible!

So prove that you're not just a misinformed fake news carrier by pasting just one single publication of JWs where a specific date about Armageddon is mentioned. Not what the enemies of the organization said about them on social media! cheesy
You seem to think that people are fools but you're only fooling yourself because what I'm saying here is not hidden but public knowledge.

For someone whose group is renowned for spreading malicious lies and falsehood about Jesus, to now want to use same Jesus as a defense for the many failed prophecies of Jehovah false Witnesses, it couldn't be more ironic.

Be waiting there for me to give you specific dates about your failed prophecies, as though you don't know where Google is, and that the information I got about your failed prophecies was from Wikipedia.

I've told you before you maximum liar, that you don't have any right to accuse anyone of failed prophecies because your group's name is synonymous with failed prophecies.

It's not an aberration like my case, but a tradition of the Jehovah witnesses. They have a gift and calling when it comes to failed prophecies!

Just look at the amount of times they've made failed prophecies. Not once, or twice, or even thrice, but six good times. My dear you ought to go and hide your head in shame. You made a huge blunder bringing this up

Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:24pm On Dec 21, 2020
Definitely you don't have any concrete evidence of what you're accusing JWs for, but yours is not far fetched, it's just this same time last year that you prophesied against all atheists on Nairaland.

Fine!

So you're just a rumour monger who doesn't care about what he hears from the crowd.
May God forgive you because you don't know what you're doing! Exodus 23:1-2 smiley





jesusjnr2020:
You seem to think that people are fools but you're only fooling yourself because what I'm saying here is not hidden but public knowledge.

For someone whose group is renowned for spreading malicious lies and falsehood about Jesus, to now want to use same Jesus as a defense for the many failed prophecies of Jehovah false Witnesses, it couldn't be more ironic.

Be waiting there for me to give you specific dates about your failed prophecies, as though you don't know where Google is, and that the information I got about your failed prophecies was from Wikipedia.

I've told you before you maximum liar, that you don't have any right to accuse anyone of failed prophecies because your group's name is synonymous with failed prophecies.

It's not an aberration like my case, but a tradition of the Jehovah witnesses. They have a gift and calling when it comes to failed prophecies!

Just look at the amount of times they've made failed prophecies. Not once, or twice, or even thrice, but six good times. My dear you ought to go and hide your head in shame. You made a huge blunder bringing this up
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by jesusjnr2020(op): 7:36pm On Dec 21, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
Definitely you don't have any concrete evidence of what you're accusing JWs for, but yours is not far fetched, it's just this same time last year that you prophesied against all atheists on Nairaland.

Fine!

So you're just a rumour monger who doesn't care about what he hears from the crowd.
May God forgive you because you don't know what you're doing! Exodus 23:1-2 smiley
It's because of lying hypocrites like you that Jesus said something about people with mountains in their eyes, yet trying to remove a mole from someone else's.

You and your group, Jehovah false Witnesses have six failed prophecies yet you're here still talking about one I prophesied last year that didn't come to pass?

You're so shameless. I mean, how shameless can someone get? Anything you accuse me of failed prophecies, six failed prophecies are pointing back you!

You group need special deliverance from the habit of spreading falsehood and lies about Jesus. Also they need a special deliverance for failed prophecies!

May God have mercy on them!
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by MaxInDHouse(m):
When you find a publication of JWs where a specific date is mentioned, then we can talk.
God's Prophet always talk about the end of the world with enthusiasm as if it's coming tomorrow. So that's the heritage of Jehovah's Witnesses, it's faithless unbelievers like you that keep ostracizing them for prophesying about the end of wickedness! 2Peter 3:3-4

But your presumptuous failed prophecy about the end of atheism on Nairalandis is here with a specific date attached to it and can be verified anytime!smiley
jesusjnr2020:
It's because of lying hypocrites like you that Jesus said something about people with mountains in their eyes, yet trying to remove a mole from someone else's.

You and your group, Jehovah false Witnesses have six failed prophecies yet you're here still talking about one I prophesied last year that didn't come to pass?

You're so shameless. I mean, how shameless can someone get? Anything you accuse me of failed prophecies, six failed prophecies are pointing back you!

You group need special deliverance from the habit of spreading falsehood and lies about Jesus. Also they need a special deliverance for failed prophecies!

May God have mercy on them!
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by haddeylium(m): 11:43pm On Dec 21, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
Your idea that the star led them first to Herod and not Bethlehem is false, because Bethlehem was in Judea and Herod was king of Judea.

And when strangers usually got into a country, they'd first be interrogated of their mission to the country, which explains why the wise men revealed their mission to king Herod.

So your assumption about the star is illinformed, erroneous, hence dead on arrival.

Also, I advised you earlier not to use the wicked decisions men make or such outcomes to come to such conclusions, otherwise you'd also conclude that God was the devil or evil because of the wicked decision man made that led Him to destroy mankind with the flood.

If you really wanted to know the truth about the wise men, you would have asked yourself why God did not warn Joseph before they came but until after they had left.

That alone should have told you that they were God-sent and led there by God via the star, not the devil as you wrongly assume.

But it seems you're actually the one being led by a "star" which is not of God, that why it's not leading you to the Truth, but to lies and false and false assumptions about the true wise men of God.
Your anology would have make sense if Jehovah that sent Jesus didn't know the Messiah Enemy (Satan) and his agent.

You think a commander that sent his armies on a dangerous mission will reveal their presence in their camp to the enemy?
That doesn't make sense

God wouldn't do that . He won't conveyed an information that would endanger the Messiah life and leads to the massacre of innocent babies
Only Satan would want his life eliminated and that explains the source of the star

Thanks for your time
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by LilBlaze24o: 2:00am On Dec 22, 2020
Pacesetter123:
Bro,I thank God we are all Bible students.Lets look at this analogy,a Christian missionary went to moslem dominated community to preach the gospel.After some days,he discovered dat dere is a cheistian family in dat community.He went into that family to go n rest.Behold,moslem irate youths were in search of the missionary to kill him.They later discovered that the missionary was taking refuge in that christian home.They went in dere to kill de missionary,but unfortunately to them,de man has already left for another area to continue preaching.They instead killed everybody in that christian family since they couldn't find the man.Now the question is; will u then attribute the mission of dat Christian to preach the gospel of Christ in dat community as an act of satan cos it has led to the killing of innocent christian family?
Does God approve of those practicing magic? Was God the one that put the star up there? These are some questions to ponder on...

But seems you have set your mind to believe God directed the Magi... Then no p.......
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:13am On Dec 22, 2020
He's inebriated with the Stars on the Christmas tree tradition a custom handed over to him by the pagan Roman Catholic Church, but he loves speaking against the Roman Catholic form of worship! cheesy


haddeylium:
Your anology would have make sense if Jehovah that sent Jesus didn't know the Messiah Enemy (Satan) and his agent.

You think a commander that sent his armies on a dangerous mission will reveal their presence in their camp to the enemy?
That doesn't make sense

God wouldn't do that . He won't conveyed an information that would endanger the Messiah life and leads to the massacre of innocent babies
Only Satan would want his life eliminated and that explains the source of the star

Thanks for your time
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by jesusjnr2020(op): 8:15am On Dec 22, 2020
To the Jehovah "false" Witnesses, the devil created the stars.

Not surprised.

Bunch of fraudsters and Antichrists!
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:32am On Dec 22, 2020
Humble yourself and learn from God's people!

The movement of Stars are influenced by angels assigned to each of them {Job 38:7; Isaiah 40:6; Revelations 12:4} for your information demons working with Satan often appear as stars to carry out their plans that's why it's Satan's agents who can be deceived by such appearance {Matthew 2:2 compared to 2Corinthians 11:14} God warned his people not to have anything to do with those who read stars! Deuteronomy 18:10-12
So Jehovah's Witnesses can't be deceived even if your masquerade (Santa Claus/Father Christmas) brings gifts because we know the person behind such tradition! Act 15:29, 21:25

jesusjnr2020:
To the Jehovah "false" Witnesses, the devil created the stars.
Bunch of fraudsters!
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by jesusjnr2020(op): 6:05pm On Dec 22, 2020
MaxInDHouse:
Humble yourself and learn from God's people!

The movement of Stars are influenced by angels assigned to each of them {Job 38:7; Isaiah 40:6; Revelations 12:4} for your information demons working with Satan often appear as stars to carry out their plans that's why it's Satan's agents who can be deceived by such appearance {Matthew 2:2 compared to 2Corinthians 11:14} God warned his people not to have anything to do with those who read stars! Deuteronomy 18:10-12
So Jehovah's Witnesses can't be deceived even if your masquerade (Santa Claus/Father Christmas) brings gifts because we know the person behind such tradition! Act 15:29, 21:25
Even God's people were more or less antichrists because of what they did to Christ when He was here on Earth, but at least they were not fraudulently claiming to be God's people as you Jehovah false Witnesses do because they were indeed God's people by virtue of the Abrahamic covenant being descendants of Abraham.

So you JW's were not only fraudsters in being liars and false accusers of Christ, but also in claiming to be God's people.

If I want to learn how to lie as Maximum liar does and make false prophecies as his group, of course I wouldn't hesitate to come to Jehovah False Witnesses because they are the masters of failed prophecies and lies against Christ!

The only reason you're bent on painting the wise men that came from the east to worship Jesus black and evil, is because you're Antichrists and you would do anything to ensure tarnish the respect they paid to Jesus as a baby which was befitting of a king and Lord, because you would do anything to negate His worship.

That's how you could possibly see a star which led wise men to baby Jesus to worship Him when He was born as of the devil.
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:27pm On Dec 22, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
Even God's people were more or less antichrists because of what they did to Christ when He was here on Earth, but at least they were not fraudulently claiming to be God's people as you Jehovah false Witnesses do because they were indeed God's people by virtue of the Abrahamic covenant being descendants of Abraham.
Let's teach you God's word!
Just imagine you claim you're for Jesus and you wrote a lengthy epistle like this without a single quote from God's word! huh
Well i'll correct you no matter what you think or say for the benefit of other followers.
The Jews in Jesus' day aren't God's people, they don't have the type of faith God saw and cherish in Abraham {John 8:31-40} Jesus said to the same Jews that you are referring to as God's people "You are of your father THE DEVIL" John 8:44
So it's your word against Jesus' word! embarassed

So you JW's were not only fraudsters in being liars and false accusers of Christ, but also in claiming to be God's people.

If I want to learn how to lie as Maximum liar does and make false prophecies as his group, of course I wouldn't hesitate to come to Jehovah False Witnesses because they are the masters of failed prophecies and lies against Christ!

The only reason you're bent on painting the wise men that came from the east to worship Jesus black and evil, is because you're Antichrists and you would do anything to ensure tarnish the respect they paid to Jesus as a baby which was befitting of a king and Lord, because you would do anything to negate His worship.

That's how you could possibly see a star which led wise men to baby Jesus to worship Him when He was born as of the devil.
Your Jewish family in Jesus' day called our Master, Lord and King "DEVIL" {Matthew 10:25} so we're glad that you too are doing the same to us today! Act 5:41 smiley
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by kokomilala(m): 3:02pm On Mar 02, 2021
@sonmvayina, I asked you to read Matthew 2. They travelled some 3k distance.Considering the tortuous journey those days.So, logically,it wasn't possible only 3 people to make that journey.Yes,they gave him three gifts: gold,fitting for a king; frankincense,suitable for a priest and mryhh,proper for burial.
Re: Who Were Those Wise Men From The East? by sonmvayina(m): 4:05pm On Mar 02, 2021
kokomilala:
@sonmvayina, I asked you to read Matthew 2. They travelled some 3k distance.Considering the tortuous journey those days.So, logically,it wasn't possible only 3 people to make that journey.Yes,they gave him three gifts: gold,fitting for a king; frankincense,suitable for a priest and mryhh,proper for burial.
It is just a story...nothing more. You are the one trying to interprete the story however you want.

Its just like me telling you that harry potter is real becauae king cross station is real..and london is real..


It is words on paper, the author of gospel according to mathew did not say he knew mary, or that joseph is his elder brother. He is not connected to any of the character in the story just lime the author of harry potter(JK Rowling) is not connected to any character in the story he is telling....

Do you understand now?

The old testament never said God will impregnate another mans wife to sire a son and that we are to kill him and sacrifice him to God.

So jesus is just a character in a story book.
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