Commonsense101:

Scrap the licensed by SON and FG talk. means nothing.

It's not about setting up shop in Nigeria, the question is do you deliver quality?
The same backyard manufacturers who produce the shitty qualities we castigate and hate so much can setup shop real easy and brand it made in Nigeria. Yes it's made in Nigeria, but what are you making ? Just saying.

Not to knock them or anything , but Looked them up and doesn't seem to be that much of a "standard manufacturing " going on. Again, just saying

davodyguy:

I was reading till I saw the part that it's a Chinese company.

[s]The thing for me is that some of these items from China are cheaper buying from Alibaba/Ali Express with same 'quality'[/s]

[s]Close to 90% of items imported into Nigeria are from China, including the almighty Turkey Doors.l, but quality differs.[/s]

When I saw an invoice and bill of lading of one major importer that branded his bathroom items in his name which flood the market, I begin to wonder.

All his jacuzzi, shower cubicle are from China and they're branded in his name, with made in UK on it.

All na packaging.

The attached image is from Aliexpress. That Garden light can be ordered including shipping for a price lesser than ₦5000 from China

How much is it when buying from Nigeria?

Nero2424:


Are you able to find out why he chooses to use Nigerite on a 60M land? Not making any sense to me. People have preferences but this one am finding difficult to believe.

davodyguy:
When buying tiles, ensure you do the measurements accurately with your tiler and also ensure proper conversion from sqm to cartons and lastly if possible, after agreeing price with supplier, go with your tiler when going for pickup.

I just got swindled of 90+ cartons costing over ₦130,000.

Lesson learned.

I know all tribes in Nigeria have bad people, but we need to be wary of some particular ones.

When I bought cables from them, it's the same thing until I stood my ground.

When I bought conduit pipes from them, it's same thing. They sold fake 20mm at the price of original 20mm Dignity pipes. I stood my ground and returned all pipes

Now it's tiles from Orile.
This criminally minded Patrick Ebere knew what he did, smuggled all the tiles in the truck before my arrival to make U turn to the other side.
Swearing that ' ọgá the thing complete' 'maka why I go cheat you'

I said I'm coming to his shop, he said no that he has traveled to the East, whereas this bastard is right here in Lagos

gurunlocker:
Some don't understand being too careful is dangerous as well.... Some of these guys sell recoil wire and will use Coleman nylon to pack it.

Muyi002:


Na 2 ACs and 2 water heater.

You can add the photo

n3xt:


What happen to obtaining quote direct from Coleman’s website?

topsy23:


That means 6-ways Distribution board is okay for your project.

Reason for specifying 6-ways distribution board for you is that spares will be available for additional AC's in future.

davodyguy:


Ọgá, I just called you now.

I swear, I will never buy anything whatsoever from them again.

My office is on the island, and 20 mins from Idumagbo.

Remember I got all prices from you, but for distance, I went to Idumagbo to buy.

I spent over ₦1,800,000 on cables. Hear the truth, all your prices here are cheaper than I bought.

I regret not buying all those cables from you.
Even if you had made ₦100,000 profit from me, it's still ok, based on your truthfulness.

One Chinedu sold 20mm 7 packs. All were fake an they're breaking any how at the site

We blame government for everything, forgetting we have evil citizens that care about profit than safety of others.

They sell expired goods at Enu-Owa. They do all sorts of evil

n3xt:


Good job! I love the cable arrangement.

davodyguy:

Just ignore that one talking nonsense, reason I chose to ignore him/her.

The issue of tiles I talked about is on the Ebere guy claiming to have loaded, but failed to do so.

All evidences are against him and he has promised to either refund or replace missing tiles. They have association at that Odunade Building Materials Market and their Chairman said I can come with all evidences for them to deal with the matter. He said if it's true that he had the intention to cheat, they'll close his shop and hand him over to the police. Hence, my mind is at rest.

The sole aim of sharing is to enlighten others which I clearly stated in the post

1. When going yourself to buy anything, negotiate yourself if you don't trust your engineer, then pay your engineer a fee to go with you when going to pick.

2. To also ensure you take time to count your purchases before leaving and never trust the words of those that swore to you.

Some people can't comprehend simple write.

We're here to learn and all builders are free to source their materials from any where they choose and they can keep getting quotes from any where.

I remember how respond to many RFQ. We end up getting some and losing out on others. But that will not prevent us from still responding to RFQs.

Those that are born in the 70/80s can relate.

michlins:
Happy holidays to everyone out there. I'm glad that we can now agree that whether you buy online or offline, due diligence is required.
Personally, I prefer to buy my phone charger from Nairaland and pay 2k for shipping because I believe the seller will hate my negative comment on his thread should he sell fake. Most online sellers sell with the barest profits because we intend to sell many and fast too.
And please crime isn't unique to one tribe. I don buy phone from oyibo man and it was icloud locked. I sent someone to get him to unlock it and he was robbed.


Once again, enjoy your holidays and learn from the experience and others

topsy23:


Thanks boss

gurunlocker:


How many kobo kobo project owner are aware of this?

Talking about retailers now.

n3xt:


Interestingly, it’s simple stuffs like this that turn me on. I pay premium for jobs like this.

It shows how much you pay attention to detail. That alone deserves some credit.

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Pics - Electrical wiring/installations from inside life

n3xt:


Interestingly, it’s simple stuffs like this that turn me on. I pay premium for jobs like this.

It shows how much you pay attention to detail. That alone deserves some credit.

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Pics - Electrical wiring/installations from inside life

n3xt:


Hehe!!

It’s also much lesser than N5,000 when you buy from here and you’ll receive your order same day - not 6 weeks or 3 months after.

I never had to comb the whole of Lagos looking for what’s not lost. I only send my Uber driver to the company and they gave him my good.

That’s the big difference here bro!

I see my stuff, pay, obtain my warranty certificate and move. Shikena!


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You’re buying a product you’ve not seen from a seller you’ve not met and you think it’s cheaper than the ones you can see physically and obtain parts+labour warranty. What about the associated risks?

I no get una mind o!

topsy23:


That means 6-ways Distribution board is okay for your project.

Reason for specifying 6-ways distribution board for you is that spares will be available for additional AC's in future.

megacontrol:
Chief,

Ignorance is never an excuse.

We the so-called "kobo kobo" project owners are the same ones spending multi millions on just one aspect of finishing, most times not getting good value for money.

That term seem to have morphed and often misconstrued to denote so many misconceptions.

Building small small or "kobo-kobo" doesn't/shouldn't mean;
- not performing due diligence
- buying fake/inferior products in the name of na kobo-kobo project, then expecting such product to perform magic
- adopting substandard building methods
- compromising safety
- not paying for services rendered
- feigning ignorance

BTW, does it still count as kobo-kobo if I am capable to walk into the market to purchase materials worth multi-millions in one go?

Me I have taken note of the options to source genuine products directly from manufacturer.

EgunMogaji2:


It’s becoming a nauseating common occurrence on here.

People assuming that because they’re flogging stuff on here that we owe some allegiance of purchasing to them. And when people happen to get ripped off and come on here to vent off they’re made fun off. It’s not iwa omoluwabi.

Back in the haydays a lot of the heavy hitters taught us on here. People like Spyder880, Skimanski, Aventures, etc How many of us gave them jobs? How many of the sellers on here have ever sent a check to Seun?

We know when some of the alleged recent big boys were question asking pipsqueaks on here too.

I just don’t like mob mentality especially against one of us that got swindled.

EgunMogaji2:


I've always felt that Kobo Kobo project meant a builder done in stages as money or other related issue allows. As opposed to wiring N50M to a builder for a turnkey building.

Hajjs house was built as a Kobo Kobo project (in fact I think it was on this project that it was coined) but it's far from a low cost build.

n3xt:


Interestingly, it’s simple stuffs like this that turn me on. I pay premium for jobs like this.

It shows how much you pay attention to detail. That alone deserves some credit.

________

Pics - Electrical wiring/installations from inside life

davodyguy:

Kobo Kobo project doesn't necessarily mean the builder is poor.

It simply means stage by stage development, rather than timed project done on contract basis where the contractor tells you it would cost ₦50m to finish the house and you out the amount in the bank.

I remember how I started my project.

I gave myself a 3 months timeline to roof, which we achieved.

We started the first of 23 pile points on 15th April, 2020 (during the lockdown) and roofed the building exactly on 15th July, 2020.

Took a break for 1 month, then moved to windows.
After windows, we started conduit piping in September.
By mid October, we moved to sight fully with wiring, plastering etc.
From November till date finishing commenced fully with tilers, POP guys, electricians, bricklayers etc everyone is there at the site now, hoping that by Mid January, we should be done.

We are over 70% done

It still a Kobo Kobo project done in stages

megacontrol:
Chief,

Ignorance is never an excuse.

We the so-called "kobo kobo" project owners are the same ones spending multi millions on just one aspect of finishing, most times not getting good value for money.

That term seem to have morphed and often misconstrued to denote so many misconceptions.

Building small small or "kobo-kobo" doesn't/shouldn't mean;
- not performing due diligence
- buying fake/inferior products in the name of na kobo-kobo project, then expecting such product to perform magic
- adopting substandard building methods
- compromising safety
- not paying for services rendered
- feigning ignorance

BTW, does it still count as kobo-kobo if I am capable to walk into the market to purchase materials worth multi-millions in one go?

Me I have taken note of the options to source genuine products directly from manufacturer.

megacontrol:
Chief,

Ignorance is never an excuse.

We the so-called "kobo kobo" project owners are the same ones spending multi millions on just one aspect of finishing, most times not getting good value for money.

That term seem to have morphed and often misconstrued to denote so many misconceptions.

Building small small or "kobo-kobo" doesn't/shouldn't mean;
- not performing due diligence
- buying fake/inferior products in the name of na kobo-kobo project, then expecting such product to perform magic
- adopting substandard building methods
- compromising safety
- not paying for services rendered
- feigning ignorance

BTW, does it still count as kobo-kobo if I am capable to walk into the market to purchase materials worth multi-millions in one go?

Me I have taken note of the options to source genuine products directly from manufacturer.

topsy23:


I have 2 technicians specially trained for this final sub-circuit termination.. If they don't do it to my satisfaction they will re-do it again ... When it comes to finishing I don't like with.

Not all my workers handle termination

You can go through our thread for more pictures

https://www.nairaland.com/2668061/abb-distribution-board-schneider-distribution/7

n3xt:


Please don’t hesitate to drop nice installation pics like this for us here once a while.

I hardly visit other threads these days.

davodyguy:
When buying tiles, ensure you do the measurements accurately with your tiler and also ensure proper conversion from sqm to cartons and lastly if possible, after agreeing price with supplier, go with your tiler when going for pickup.

I just got swindled of 90+ cartons costing over ₦130,000.

Lesson learned.

I know all tribes in Nigeria have bad people, but we need to be wary of some particular ones.

When I bought cables from them, it's the same thing until I stood my ground.

When I bought conduit pipes from them, it's same thing. They sold fake 20mm at the price of original 20mm Dignity pipes. I stood my ground and returned all pipes

Now it's tiles from Orile.
This criminally minded Patrick Ebere knew what he did, smuggled all the tiles in the truck before my arrival to make U turn to the other side.
Swearing that ' ọgá the thing complete' 'maka why I go cheat you'

I said I'm coming to his shop, he said no that he has traveled to the East, whereas this bastard is right here in Lagos

davodyguy:
When buying tiles, ensure you do the measurements accurately with your tiler and also ensure proper conversion from sqm to cartons and lastly if possible, after agreeing price with supplier, go with your tiler when going for pickup.

I just got swindled of 90+ cartons costing over ₦130,000.

Lesson learned.

I know all tribes in Nigeria have bad people, but we need to be wary of some particular ones.

When I bought cables from them, it's the same thing until I stood my ground.

When I bought conduit pipes from them, it's same thing. They sold fake 20mm at the price of original 20mm Dignity pipes. I stood my ground and returned all pipes

Now it's tiles from Orile.
This criminally minded Patrick Ebere knew what he did, smuggled all the tiles in the truck before my arrival to make U turn to the other side.
Swearing that ' ọgá the thing complete' 'maka why I go cheat you'

I said I'm coming to his shop, he said no that he has traveled to the East, whereas this bastard is right here in Lagos