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Deadlytruth:
As long as the results of that election had been declared by the electoral commission, it was valid until upturned by a court. So without going to court, Zik was doing an illegality by disputing the election outside the courts while still trying to retain his position. However his refusal to resign from the government to pursue the case in court meant he still saw himself as part of the NNA governing coalition.

Bros you have no case and nothing to back your case. you have no understanding of parliamentary system. Zik doesn't need to resign he voiced his concerns about the election which was valid and he didn't accept to form the government but Balewa created the crisis by going ahead to form a government without Zik

obynzo:
Ironsi didn't create any constitutional crisis. The whole crisis started with Balewa remove your unconscious bias and analyse the issue clearly

Balewa's removal didn't alter the constitution. In fact the constitution spelt out what to do when the prime minister was no longer available on a permanent basis. Then the military court-martial laws also clearly stated what do do about soldiers who mutiny. Ironsi did neither of these and that was where problems started. Didn't the North promise not to disrupt Ironsi's government provided he punished the coup plotters? That means the Northerns themselves didn't see the killing of their own Balewa as a problem but Ironsi's tampering with the constitution which made them stage violent riots targeted at Igbos right under Ironsi's nose.

obynzo:
Bros you have no case and nothing to back your case. you have no understanding of parliamentary system. Zik doesn't need to resign he voiced his concerns about the election which was valid and he didn't accept to form the government but Balewa created the crisis by going ahead to form a government without Zik

It is you that doesn't know anything about parliamentary system. Pursuing election dispute outside the court is illegal be it in presidential or parliamentary system. Stop playing on words.

Deadlytruth:
Gowon was already trying to rectify the mess but had to halt it because of Ojukwu's intransigence.
Moreover, Gowon didn't take over power from the civilians like Ironsi did. As at when Gowon took over power, there was no longer a democratic structure on ground for him to have handed over power back to. In fact there was no constitution on ground again. It had become a chaotic situation. But Ironsi met on ground a political structure and the very cconstitution he swore to protect and defend and which clearly spelt out what he should do in that circumstances but he refused and choose to draft his own selfish constitution to pursue a separate agenda totally different from genuine national interest.

Bros you are a real liar how did Ojukwu interrupt Gowon. Gowon made the laws that gave us this quasi federal structure we have. There was a remedy in Aburi which would have solved the problem, but he refused

Deadlytruth:
It is you that doesn't know anything about parliamentary system. Pursuing election dispute outside the court is illegal be it in presidential or parliamentary system. Stop playing on words.

Oga you have not provided any superior evidence to counter my words rather it has been more lies upon lies you keep putting

Deadlytruth:
Balewa's removal didn't alter the constitution. In fact the constitution spelt out what to do when the prime minister was no longer available on a permanent basis. Then the military court-martial laws also clearly stated what do do about soldiers who mutiny. Ironsi did neither of these and that was where problems started. Didn't the North promise not to disrupt Ironsi's government provided he punished the coup plotters? That means the Northerns themselves didn't see the killing of their own Balewa as a problem but Ironsi's tampering with the constitution which made them stage violent riots targeted at Igbos right under Ironsi's nose.

why did the NPC not allow for the post of deputy prime minister? that would have been constitutionally appropriate

obynzo:
Bros you are a real liar how did Ojukwu interrupt Gowon. Gowon made the laws that gave us this quasi federal structure we have. There was a remedy in Aburi which would have solved the problem, but he refused

Thrash as usual. There was no single remedy in Aburi Accord. The Accord was an illegality which lacked the stamp of the people's sovereignty as those who attended it and made the Accord were all either soldiers or unelected civil servants working for the establishment and therefore had no business with politics and law making courtesy of the civil servants anonymity principle. Where on earth do soldiers and civil servants make laws for people? Moreover, Aburi Accord had nothing on lifting Ironsi's ban on political activities towards an election time table for a return of power to the civilians. It was just an agreement on how soldiers would henceforth share power across regional lines. Were we going to be ruled forever by the military? And you call such trashy document a solution to the problem then?

Deadlytruth:
Thrash as usual. There was no single remedy in Aburi Accord. The Accord was an illegality which lacked the stamp of the people's sovereignty as those who attended it and made the Accord were all either soldiers or unelected civil servants working for the establishment and therefore had no business with politics and law making courtesy of the civil servants anonymity principle. Where on earth do soldiers and civil servants make laws for people? Moreover, Aburi Accord had nothing on lifting Ironsi's ban on political activities towards an election time table for a return of power to the civilians. It was just an agreement on how soldiers would henceforth share power across regional lines. Were we going to be ruled forever by the military? And you call such trashy document a solution to the problem then?

You still have not made any point the crux of the matter in Aburi was to restore normalcy and chart a path for Nigeria, the issue of political parties or lifting ban doesn't arise there. Bros please come with some ingenious lie that would even bamboozle me because this lies and thrash talk you are doing doesn't make sense at all.

obynzo:
You still have not made any point the crux of the matter in Aburi was to restore normalcy and chart a path for Nigeria, the issue of political parties or lifting ban doesn't arise there. Bros please come with some ingenious lie that would even bamboozle me because this lies and thrash talk you are doing doesn't make sense at all.

So why didn't the issue of a lift on the ban on political activities come up there if it was truly intended to just return the country back to how Ironsi met it in its state of people centered sovereignty? In going to Aburi, why did they sideline the genuinely elected political leaders of the people and opted for civil servants and other agents of the establishment who had never been involved in politics to have known what exactly the people wanted? May I ask you who represented your own federal constituency in Aburi summit the way we all had freely elected representatives to the 1958 London Constitutional conference that drafted the regions based federalism which we all adopted and still cherish till today?

obynzo:
why did the NPC not allow for the post of deputy prime minister? that would have been constitutionally appropriate

Did the constitution say it must be the deputy prime minister? I thought your brother Dedetwo already argued here that there was no deputy prime minister position?

And if there was deputy prime minister position and the law said he was next in line, why didn't Ironsi invoke that law to install him and back him up with his power as military GOC rather than take power for himself?

Christistruth00:
Ironsi and Ojukwu were part of the Coup!!!

That was why Ironsi didn't even bother to hand back Power to the Civilian Government and Ojukwu was promising Allison Ayida a Permanent Secretary Ironsi would scrap the regions within 6 months.

Things were difficult for Ironsi because the Northern Soldier's and Ogundipe had found out that Ironsi and Ojukwu were part of the Coup that killed their Military Colleagues and Leaders!!!!


Read this from Gen David Ejoor on how Ironsi tried to set traps for him on the day of the Coup and even sent a message to his 2ic in Enugu to take over as Ejoor was not coming back ( They expected the Coup Plotters to have killed him and were shocked when David Ejoor turned up alive )


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It is a pity you succumb to craps coming form David Ejoor. Ejoor who did not recall how he left Benin in 1967. Ejoor was to assume the command of 1st Battalion at Enugu because Fajuiyi was on leave and should be reassign to HQ afterward. During this period, 1st Battalion at Enugu was under the command Major David Ogunenwe. In military parlance, GOC does not send orders to subordinates on personal phone call or letter. All contacts should be initiated through HQ. David Ejoor was a joker throughout his military career.

Deadlytruth:
Did the constitution say it must be the deputy prime minister? I thought your brother Dedetwo already argued here that there was no deputy prime minister position?

And if there was deputy prime minister position and the law said he was next in line, why didn't Ironsi invoke that law to install him and back him up with his power as military GOC rather than take power for himself?

Please have you ever seen or read either 1960 Nigerian constitution or 1963 Nigerian constitution? Gen. Ironsi had no business in who becomes the Prime Minister. He did not have power to invoke any law to install anybody as Prime Minister. President Pro Tempore of Nigeria had requested the coalition partners to adhere to simple floor parliamentary rule or protocol where the Ranking Minister from the parties in coalition governemnt has to assume the duties in the absence of PM. However the NPC and its alliance insist to produce PM. In other hand NCNC and its alliance refused therefore the government finally collapsed. Since situation was not ordinary situation where a fresh election would have been called, ministers in failed coalition government decided to call the GOC of Nigeria army, which could have been anybody, Gen Ironsi to take the helms of Nigerian government.

obynzo:
Azikiwe didn't struggle for any seat. In the Western regional elections. NCNC won the most seats which would have made Zik Premier. Then Awolowo in league with the Obas and the ibadan politicians fearing the domination of Zik organised the cross carpeting saga that gave the AG the majority seats. That was when ethnic politics started and it started with Awolowo.

Ifeajuna and Zik were cousins so it is a possibility but then why blame a whole tribe for the actions of one man when it is convenient for you not to tag all fulanis as Boko Haram.

Again on igbo politicians being spared Ironsi escaped and Mbadiwe also escaped it was not that they spared igbo politicians. Mbadiwe lived close to Okotie Eboh and he escaped when he got wind of Okotie Eboh's kidnap. Please read the police special branch report by MD Yusuf on the coup and be cured of your hate and stupidity along with mumu ignorance

So you are still spreading this lie that NCNC won that election and Awolowo used tribalism to change the results? Awolowo must have been superhuman to have, without going to a court of law, been able to alter the results of an election already declared by the electoral commission. Chai! You Igbos are so funny.
Now let me help you here:
What Awolowo spoke against was the idea of someone from another region (not from another tribe) coming to rule the Western Region. There were many non-,Yoruba tribes in the Western Region then including Ijaws, Binis, Urhobos, Esans, Etsakos, Etuno, Okpameri, Unemes, Isokos, and even the Igboid Aniomas. Did any of these tribes indicate interest in becoming Western Region premier and Awolowo objected to it? Awolowo was a federalist who believed that the self governance for which the regions were created in the first place must be strictly adhered to and not for one of the regions to try to govern another in the name of one-Nigeria.
And may I ask you why Zik, in pursuit of his fraudulent detribalization, didn't rather go and seek premier of the Northern Region where he was even born and brought up hence more popular?

Deadlytruth:
Did the constitution say it must be the deputy prime minister? I thought your brother Dedetwo already argued here that there was no deputy prime minister position?

And if there was deputy prime minister position and the law said he was next in line, why didn't Ironsi invoke that law to install him and back him up with his power as military GOC rather than take power for himself?

Oga once again you don't have any talk. your desperation to blame igbos have seen you shift goal posts from igbos now to Zik amd now to Ironsi

Deadlytruth:
So you are still spreading this lie that NCNC won that election and Awolowo used tribalism to change the results? Awolowo must have been superhuman to have, without going to a court of law, been able to alter the results of an election already declared by the electoral commission. Chai! You Igbos are so funny.
Now let me help you here:
What Awolowo spoke against was the idea of someone from another region (not from another tribe) coming to rule the Western Region. There were many non-,Yoruba tribes in the Western Region then including Ijaws, Binis, Urhobos, Esans, Etsakos, Etuno, Okpameri, Unemes, Isokos, and even the Igboid Aniomas. Did any of these tribes indicate interest in becoming Western Region premier and Awolowo objected to it? Awolowo was a federalist who believed that the self governance for which the regions were created in the first place must be strictly adhered to and not for one of the regions to try to govern another in the name of one-Nigeria.
And may I ask you why Zik, in pursuit of his fraudulent detribalization, didn't rather go and seek premier of the Northern Region where he was even born and brought up hence more popular?

Oga show me where i lied. The elections into the western region house of assembly showed NCNC had more seats than AG, but then Awolowo used the Obas to engineer the cross carpeting saga which fuelled ethnic politics the consequences we are seeing today so bros stop shifting goal posts because you have no talk

Dedetwo:
Please have you ever seen or read either 1960 Nigerian constitution or 1963 Nigerian constitution? Gen. Ironsi had no business in who becomes the Prime Minister. He did not have power to invoke any law to install anybody as Prime Minister. President Pro Tempore of Nigeria had requested the coalition partners to adhere to simple floor parliamentary rule or protocol where the Ranking Minister from the parties in coalition governemnt has to assume the duties in the absence of PM. However the NPC and its alliance insist to produce PM. In other hand NCNC and its alliance refused therefore the government finally collapsed. Since situation was not ordinary situation where a fresh election would have been called, ministers in failed coalition government decided to call the GOC of Nigeria army, which could have been anybody, Gen Ironsi to take the helms of Nigerian government.

Then you have obviously never read Richard Akinjide's account which was also corroborated by that of Shagari that the politicians never willingly gave power to Ironsi but that he seized it from their hands under duress.

According to you the constitution didn't give any power to decide who became Balewa's successor. Good argument. But neither did the constitution give him the power to make himself Balewa's successor.

Deadlytruth:
So you are still spreading this lie that NCNC won that election and Awolowo used tribalism to change the results? Awolowo must have been superhuman to have, without going to a court of law, been able to alter the results of an election already declared by the electoral commission. Chai! You Igbos are so funny.
Now let me help you here:
What Awolowo spoke against was the idea of someone from another region (not from another tribe) coming to rule the Western Region. There were many non-,Yoruba tribes in the Western Region then including Ijaws, Binis, Urhobos, Esans, Etsakos, Etuno, Okpameri, Unemes, Isokos, and even the Igboid Aniomas. Did any of these tribes indicate interest in becoming Western Region premier and Awolowo objected to it? Awolowo was a federalist who believed that the self governance for which the regions were created in the first place must be strictly adhered to and not for one of the regions to try to govern another in the name of one-Nigeria.
And may I ask you why Zik, in pursuit of his fraudulent detribalization, didn't rather go and seek premier of the Northern Region where he was even born and brought up hence more popular?

In your quest to vilify Zik you appear naive and childish. In the first place did NCNC contest in the north? the answer is No. in the western region the dominant party was NCNC(because of Macaulay and Zik) followed by AG it was after the cross carpeting saga that NCNC became more limited to the east, but still NCNC had a strong presence in Lagos which Awolowo sort to break, by trying to use Idowu Taylor and Ibiyinka Olorunimbe to engineer that. Oga nice try but look for some other lies this one is dead on arrival

Deadlytruth:
Then you have obviously never read Richard Akinjide's account which was also corroborated by that of Shagari that the politicians never willingly have power to Ironsi but that he seized it from their hands under duress.

Oga these guys definitely wanted to play that they were innocent. what do you expect Akinjide and Shagari to say? the north wanted Dipcharima but it was not a consensus and they didn't want the choice agreed by the NCNC block that stalemate alone was what made Orizu to hand over power to the military

obynzo:
Oga show me where i lied. The elections into the western region house of assembly showed NCNC had more seats than AG, but then Awolowo used the Obas to engineer the cross carpeting saga which fuelled ethnic politics the consequences we are seeing today so bros stop shifting goal posts because you have no talk

The cross carpeting was in both directions and some of it favored Zik. The person who represented my own constuency the (Pa Awodi) from Kukuruku Division of the present Edo State crossed over to the NCNC side from the AG he initially belonged to. Stop these lies please.
Moreover, Arthur Prest representing a constuency in Delta State of today was an Urhobo who crossed over to Awolowo's side. Would an Urhobo man (a non-Yoruba) have crossed to AG if Awolowo had based his alleged call for Cross carpeting on a Yoruba tribal agenda?
In actual fact what happened on the floor of the Western House that really have Awolowo victory was the fact that the other parties like IPP and OIL, decided to go into coalition with AG just like how you Igbos of the NCNC decided to go with NPC at independence in the federal house.

obynzo:
Oga these guys definitely wanted to play that they were innocent. what do you expect Akinjide and Shagari to say? the north wanted Dipcharima but it was not a consensus and they didn't want the choice agreed by the NCNC block that stalemate alone was what made Orizu to hand over power to the military

So what was the West too denied that made Akinjide say same? Please recall that both Shagari and Akinjide said these things independently and at different times.

obynzo:
In your quest to vilify Zik you appear naive and childish. In the first place did NCNC contest in the north? the answer is No. in the western region the dominant party was NCNC(because of Macaulay and Zik) followed by AG it was after the cross carpeting saga that NCNC became more limited to the east, but still NCNC had a strong presence in Lagos which Awolowo sort to break, by trying to use Idowu Taylor and Ibiyinka Olorunimbe to engineer that. Oga nice try but look for some other lies this one is dead on arrival

So what stopped Zik from pushing NCNC (which we are told had nationalistic outlook) to the North hence contest there? Was NCNC's nationalism only limited to the South? Hehe....
Do you recall that Zik practically moved to headquarters of NCNC to the East yet it was a party which leadership was handed over to him by a Yoruba man in Lagos the national capital. So much for a nationalist.

Deadlytruth:
So what was the West too denied that made Akinjide say same? Please recall that both Shagari and Akinjide said these things independently and at different times.

Deadlytruth these IPOBs have a deliberate Agenda to distort History that is why they keep on falling down the same Well.

They completely reject well intended corrections and prefer Clinging to lies and Propaganda .

That was why Ojukwu stubbornly led them into glaring disaster when Azikiwe their Political father was pleading and telling them not to imagine going to War because they would be humiliated and loose their privileged Position in the Nation they had struggled with others to build.

Did Ojukwu listen? No , he put Azikiwe who was older than Ojukwu's own Father under house arrest, but all Azikiwe's words still came to pass like a God given Prophecy.

Till today the Wise ones among them still wish Ojukwu had listened to Azikiwe the way Gowon had listened to Awolowo.though they were from different Regions.

Dedetwo:
Please have you ever seen or read either 1960 Nigerian constitution or 1963 Nigerian constitution? Gen. Ironsi had no business in who becomes the Prime Minister. He did not have power to invoke any law to install anybody as Prime Minister. President Pro Tempore of Nigeria had requested the coalition partners to adhere to simple floor parliamentary rule or protocol where the Ranking Minister from the parties in coalition governemnt has to assume the duties in the absence of PM. However the NPC and its alliance insist to produce PM. In other hand NCNC and its alliance refused therefore the government finally collapsed. Since situation was not ordinary situation where a fresh election would have been called, ministers in failed coalition government decided to call the GOC of Nigeria army, which could have been anybody, Gen Ironsi to take the helms of Nigerian government.

That there was a stalemate between the coalition partners wasn't enough reason for Ironsi to take over. All he should have rather done in that circumstances in adherence to his solemnly sworn oath of office to defend that constitution in all circumstances was to simply stand aside and watch the parliamentarians resolve the stalemate themselves while he only provided security to ensure that the resolution did not take a violent turn. It might have taken them many scheduled and rescheduled meetings to have finally reached an agreement on who should replace Balewa from among them. Politicians don't ever really disagree eternally. They have no permanent friends nor enemies. And trust me that the NCNC members would have later succumbed to NPC's choice just as they agreed to go with NPC on the floor of the federal house in 1960 when there was a stalemate in the 1959 elections by which no single party had the percentage to form the government of the day. As a disciplined and professional Army GOC conscious of his sacred oath of office, Ironsi should have rejected the parliamentarians call on him to take over and directed them to go and do the resolution themselves assuming but not coceding that that account is even true.
There was also a stalemate in 2010 when the constitution was silent on what to do in the circumstances defined by Yaradua's prolonged absence from Nigeria. After much back and forth didn't they eventually all mutually agreed to a doctrine of necessity by which the resolved the impasse? So why did Ironsi even involve himself at all in the First Republic parliamentary stalemate? Why?

gidgiddy:
What matters is what Ironsi did, not what he said. Whatever name or connotation Ironsi used to describe the Regions, the truth is that he did not tamper or change anything about the 4 Regions of the time.

So his breaking down the regions into provinces which over which he appointed military governors to head and be taking instructions from him from hence forth coupled with the castration of the regional governments through stealing their civil services away to the center were not tantamount to tampering with the regional federal arrangement substantially?

gidgiddy:
Thats how military rule is anywhere in the world

Was a militarily governed Nigeria the dreams of our founding fathers when they were struggling for independence?

Deadlytruth:
So his breaking down the regions into provinces which over which he appointed military governors to head and be taking instructions from him from hence forth coupled with the castration of the regional governments through stealing their civil services away to the center were not tantamount to tampering with the regional federal arrangement substantially?

You dont know what you are talking about. The Regions were made up of provinces same way states are made up of Local Governments. The civil service standards that Ironsi introduced is what Nigeria still uses to this day.

Ironsi met 4 Regions, he left 4 Regions. Gowon met 4 Regions, he left 12 states

Ironsi met resource control, he left resource control. Gowon met resource control, resource control disappeared under him

Ironsi met fiscal federalism and the revenue sharing formular agreed at independence. He left it as it was. Gowon used decree 14 to remove fiscal federalism and changed the revenue sharing formular

For years, people have been blaming Ironsi for what Gowon did. Ironsi did not actually do anything wrong, his only crime was that he was an Igbo man. All those who came after Ironsi did far worse than Ironsi ever did but people dont talk about them because they were Northerners

Hypocrisy

Deadlytruth:
That was few hours after the coup and when the heavily lopsided ethnic pattern of the casualties was yet to come to the knowledge of the general public.
That a journalist even justified the sacking of a democratically elected government by the military was an indication of how hopeless the country was.
Ask yourself if the military ever interfered in the democratic experience of advanced countries like US, UK, Germany, Japan, France, etc which are the world economic and military powers today and compare it with very economically backward and near failed countriess like Nigeria, Sudan, etc which had military rule as part of their history then tell me if military intervention in democracy is justified in any way as long as the prosperity, growth and development of a country are concerned.

In political philosophy, ultimate sovereignty is said to reside with the people and not the army and not even the legislature. The people express that sovereignty through the ballot box. So if there is the need for a change of government, only the people have the power to do so. The military came into existence through the sovereign will of the people who created it by law to protect the territorial integrity of their country. So military take over of government is an aberration akin to a situation whereby the parents of a household are quarrelling and the security man employed by the family to protect them decides to kill those parents and then assume the role of new parents over the children. This is how senseless it is to justify military intervention and any genuinely educated person must never have a reason to rationalize or justify such an anomaly except he will tolerate it if his employed security man in his house does it to him and his wife.

The coup was very popular in the country including the north until the propagandists among the northern intelligentsia and British intelligence began to incite the northerners. The coup remained very popular in the south until Ironsi was overthrown. The yorubas and Midwest ppl seeing that the north had succeeded in the counter coup, immediately acted like they were never happy about the overthrow of the Balewa government.

The nightmare of the 1st republic had many faces. From the civil war in the Western region called operation wetie that claimed thousands of lives, to the tiv riots, very shameless election rigging in the western region etc To finally break the camel's back the NPC/Akintola were planning to wallop the Western region and totally subdue It with plenty of bloodshed. It is that kind of madness in society that makes some young soldiers desperate enough to think that an illegal action like a coup can solve problems of their country. Like the journalist said clearly and any educated person knows, coups were very very common in those days. I am sure you know countries like Greece, Argentina and other developed countries had military rule until the 70s and 80s

That is why your analogy of "security man killing parents" is totally DOA. Today we have young people who have grown up seeing politicians stealing and killing without any repercussions. Those young kids now think they are justified to steal through Yahoo Yahoo. The environment will always bear fruit in its own image. Up north the fruit we are seeing is banditry and terrorism

Deadlytruth:
Was a militarily governed Nigeria the dreams of our founding fathers when they were struggling for independence?

Ironsi died in 1966, that means no Igbo man has ruled Nigeria in nearly 55 years. Why didnt the rest of you Nigerians that have been in control take us all to the dreams of our founding fathers in 55 years?

Deadlytruth:
So what stopped Zik from pushing NCNC (which we are told had nationalistic outlook) to the North hence contest there? Was NCNC's nationalism only limited to the South? Hehe....
Do you recall that Zik practically moved to headquarters of NCNC to the East yet it was a party which leadership was handed over to him by a Yoruba man in Lagos the national capital. So much for a nationalist.

Another fat lie again. Oga show us evidence that the HQ was moved to the eastern region and again it was after the Western Region cross carpeting saga instigated by Awo that made NCNC seem like an Igbo party.

Christistruth00:
Deadlytruth these IPOBs have a deliberate Agenda to distort History that is why they keep on falling down the same Well.

They completely reject well intended corrections and prefer Clinging to lies and Propaganda .

That was why Ojukwu stubbornly led them into glaring disaster when Azikiwe their Political father was pleading and telling them not to imagine going to War because they would be humiliated and loose their privileged Position in the Nation they had struggled with others to build.

Did Ojukwu listen? No , he put Azikiwe who was older than Ojukwu's own Father under house arrest, but all Azikiwe's words still came to pass like a God given Prophecy.

Till today the Wise ones among them still wish Ojukwu had listened to Azikiwe the way Gowon had listened to Awolowo.though they were from different Regions.

Oga Ojukwu did what he did whatever we are wishing is based on hindsight, mind you the field was not a level playing field as the West was backing Gowon so if there was a level playing field Awolowo's advice wouldn't have amounted to much. Let us really get that into perspective and stop the lies abeg.

Deadlytruth:
So what was the West too denied that made Akinjide say same? Please recall that both Shagari and Akinjide said these things independently and at different times.

There were other people there Wada was there, Ribadu was there and Mbadiwe was there none of them said that Ironsi bullied them into handing over. Don't you think it is all lies?

Deadlytruth:
So why didn't the issue of a lift on the ban on political activities come up there if it was truly intended to just return the country back to how Ironsi met it in its state of people centered sovereignty? In going to Aburi, why did they sideline the genuinely elected political leaders of the people and opted for civil servants and other agents of the establishment who had never been involved in politics to have known what exactly the people wanted? May I ask you who represented your own federal constituency in Aburi summit the way we all had freely elected representatives to the 1958 London Constitutional conference that drafted the regions based federalism which we all adopted and still cherish till today?

Oga i repeat you are just a disgruntled element with no talk just to come online to spread hate, that is why you don't want to back down because your plans have been exposed and you have been beaten flat. Guy go and rest and join us in Buhari's Nigeria