Sammy07:


You guys and igbochief001 can go to hell if you don't wanna contest.
After all it's on the record Igbos has never contest in a Major political party before since 1959. (apart from Zik).

You can't face the North and You can't face the West.
Stay at home if you don't wanna contest.

Which West?

The one with zero bloc votes.

APC wins SW = 200k

PDP wins Anambra = 500k

Hiding under Northern bloc votes doesn't make the SW political heavyweight.

2023 when Umahi runs on APC ticket, make sure your decamp to test your might against Ndi Igbo

cktheluckyman:

The candidate the majority of the party wants will be elected and not necessarily from the region it is zoned to.Tinubu only has control on some of the SW delegates(Ekiti not even included)

BTW I dont even see zoning work.The contest will eventually be thrown to all.

guess you're from Southeast, political empiricist everywhere


Tinubu had allies outside of Southwest than any politicians in Nigeria even though the thief won't be Nigeria president but educate yourself

IamAtikulate:

Tinubu made the proposal after 2011 election but CPC turned it down.

Negotiations made headways when ANPP joined. It was the second largest opposition party in the North.

PDP was in firm control of the country until NPDP left. If they didn't, na waste of time for APC.

Despite taking almost the North and entire SW, PDP lost with 3 million votes.

NPDP made Buhari president. No ACN who even supported Atiku.

SW still voted for Atiku in 2019. He only lost SW to APC despite SW having the VP with 200k.

In the history of Elections of Nigeria.
South West has never gave any party 80% of her votes if it's not a Yoruba man.

The highest is 70%.
Once it's not a Yoruba man just know it will roughly be divided into two, so what are you saying

In 1999 despite having Two Yorubas, why didn't they divided the votes into two?

IamAtikulate:

Which West?

The one with zero bloc votes.

APC wins SW = 200k

PDP wins Anambra = 500k

Hiding under Northern bloc votes doesn't make the SW political heavyweight.

2023 when Umahi runs on APC ticket, make sure your decamp to test your might against Ndi Igbo

don't mind him, Umahi will run under the ewedu and alimajiri broom ticket whether afonja want or not


APC is no more an evil party i supoose? dummies everywhere

IamAtikulate:

Which West?

The one with zero bloc votes.

APC wins SW = 200k

PDP wins Anambra = 500k

Hiding under Northern bloc votes doesn't make the SW political heavyweight.

2023 when Umahi runs on APC ticket, make sure your decamp to test your might against Ndi Igbo

Lol, you don't understand SW politics Ogbeni.
Because we're having VP doesn't mean we should give him all our votes.

It's always 60 / 40 or 55 / 45 if it's not a Yoruba presidential candidates.

BTW, SW has never hide under northern candidates.
How many Igbos has contested in a major party presidential election apart from Zik?

Or do you want me to name.
Awolowo
Abiola
OBJ
Falae?
Have you forgotten SW Boycotted 1964 elections, yet you guys went ahead to vote.

No Southern as ever hide behind The North like Igbos.
Yet you'll be preaching betrayers, cowards and southern unity when you're the worst.

You're the betrayers, you're the cowards and you don't even have southern unity at heart.

I still remember 1 million march for abacha.

Even recently, an Igbo man from Rivers wanna organise another 1 million march for Buhari.


Spare me the talk Abeq.

Sammy07:


You guys and igbochief001 can go to hell if you don't wanna contest.
After all it's on the record Igbos has never contest in a Major political party before since 1959. (apart from Zik).

You can't face the North and You can't face the West.
Stay at home if you don't wanna contest.

Why asking it to be zoned south if u can face the north

Ticket zoning to the SW to be specific...

Igbochief001:

Why asking it to be zoned south if u can face the north

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To be zoned to South means all southerners (SW, SS, SE) should contest and any southern that emerge should be given support.

why BEGGING to be zone to SE, if you can win primaries with SW and SS contesting?

Sammy07:
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To be zoned to South means all southerners (SW, SS, SE) should contest and any southern that emerge should be given support.

why BEGGING to be zone to SE, if you can win primaries with SW and SS contesting?

What's the point of zoning when south west n south south that has been there before getting it

What's the main purpose of zoning is it not for all zones to get a test of the presidency ?

Is there anything like southen zone in Nigeria ?

Igbochief001:

What's the point of zoning when south west n south south that has been there before getting it

What's the main purpose of zoning is it not for all zones to get a test of the presidency ?

Is there anything like southen zone in Nigeria ?

What's democracy when you're telling one region has no business in contesting in 2023?

What's democracy when the region with the highest number of votes shouldn't attain the seats as many times as possible?

What's democracy when you're stopping one region from contesting because they've been there before?

NORTH WILL NOT RELINQUISH POWER. THIS WOULD MAKE PDP WIN

Every qualified person should contest..Let the best man win

Sammy07:


What's democracy when you're telling one region has no business in contesting in 2023?

What's democracy when the region with the highest number of votes shouldn't attain the seats as many times as possible?

What's democracy when you're stopping one region from contesting because they've been there before?

The long and short of this story is that buhari will not handover to a southerner quote me and get headache

Sammy07:


Lol, you don't understand SW politics Ogbeni.
Because we're having VP doesn't mean we should give him all our votes.

It's always 60 / 40 or 55 / 45 if it's not a Yoruba presidential candidates.

I am glad you have admitted you don't give bloc votes.

Sammy07:


BTW, SW has never hide under northern candidates.

2007 - Atiku - ACN

2011 - Ribadu- ACN

2015/2019 - Buhari - APC

Sammy07:

How many Igbos has contested in a major party presidential election apart from Zik?

Or do you want me to name.
Awolowo
Abiola
OBJ
Falae?

How many of them won without hiding under other people's bloc votes?

Sammy07:

Have you forgotten SW Boycotted 1964 elections, yet you guys went ahead to vote.

Wetin concern us with Awo's skirmishes?

Sammy07:


No Southern as ever hide behind The North like Igbos.
Yet you'll be preaching betrayers, cowards and southern unity when you're the worst.

The last time we checked, we only ran once on Northern ticket and we replicated by voting Yaradu en bloc. So try another lie.

Awo was hoping on NCNC to smuggle himself into federal power, he failed.

Abiola relied on Northern votes to win and his hatred for Igbos cost him his presidency.

OBJ relied on SE/SS and Maurice Iwu to win the presidency.

Sammy07:

You're the betrayers, you're the cowards and you don't even have southern unity at heart.

Yet we supported GEJ and OBJ twice. Another lie pls.

Sammy07:


I still remember 1 million march for abacha.

Even recently, an Igbo man from Rivers wanna organise another 1 million march for Buhari.


Spare me the talk Abeq.

Yes, Abiola said he couldn't do without Igbos. We taught him a lesson.

So Ikwerres are Igbos now?

Fear who no fear Yoruba people.

Wiifesnatcher:



don't mind him, Umahi will run under the ewedu and alimajiri broom ticket whether afonja want or not


APC is no more an evil party i supoose? dummies everywhere

The last time I checked, there were 2 Igbo party leaders at the merger.

seunmsg:


It will be enforced and a southerner will fly the party’s ticket. In 2015 when the ticket was zoned to the north, Okorocha from the south was allowed to contest but at the end of the day, a northerner emerged.

Apart from the nonsense that PDP did in 2015 by printing only one presidential nomination form for Jonathan and illegally denying others the right to contest for the ticket, zoning has never been used to stop others from contesting. They would contest but the candidate would still emerge from the region the ticket is zoned to.

You really understand the politics. those who contested knowing that the party has zone the ticket to a particular region get the benefit of being front runners in the government after they lose out as they will be compensated with juicy post to recoup their loss. they didn't contest for people sake ooo. na the game.

IamAtikulate:

The last time I checked, there were 2 Igbo party leaders at the merger.

how does this change the fact that APC is an evil ewedu broom and alimajiri party


a party we Ndigbo mocked Akpabio for joining, are we now two face people like the Afonja


bunch of jokers

Should be zone to south east.

Igbochief001:

What's the point of zoning when south west n south south that has been there before getting it

What's the main purpose of zoning is it not for all zones to get a test of the presidency ?

Is there anything like southen zone in Nigeria ?

I remember Goodluck won Atiku in the 2011 primaries to become the candidate. I also remember OBJ won in addition to Ekwueme, Abubakar Rimi from the North amongst others to emerge candidate in 1999 and 2003. If the SW and SS can defeat northerners and non northerners of different zones to emerge candidates, then surely the SE can defeat their opponents in the primary to emerge flag bearer. It all depends on how well you play your card. You don’t expect the ticket to be zoned to the SE and then you go to sleep. Even our politicians from the SE know that it is not so. The call for the presidency to be zoned to the SE to me is like an awareness to other regions that it is time for the igbos to be considered. Now what is left for them is to reach out to others and negotiate for it. Simple!

Sammy07:



In the history of Elections of Nigeria.
South West has never gave any party 80% of her votes if it's not a Yoruba man.

The highest is 70%.
Once it's not a Yoruba man just know it will roughly be divided into two, so what are you saying

70% is not a bloc vote.

SE voted 96% while SS gave 94% in the same election.

SW don't give bloc votes no matter who is on the ballot. Its evident.

Sammy07:


In 1999 despite having Two Yorubas, why didn't they divided the votes into two?

In 1999, Tinubu was an emerging Yoruba leader. He supported Falae against OBJ and again, there was this question on OBJ paternity.

Today, Tinubu has lost some of the magic. In SW most of the dissident votes are to spite Tinubu.

Dont get me wrong, Yorubas give bloc votes but SW don't - non indigenes and anti-Tinubu elements tend to split their votes.

There are close to 35% non indigenes in SW. This explains why their votes is always 40-60 or slight variations.

Wiifesnatcher:



how does this change the fact that APC is an evil ewedu broom and alimajiri party


a party we Ndigbo mocked Akpabio for joining, are we now two face people like the Afonja


bunch of jokers

Lamentation of a thiefibu e-rodent. My message was clear "APC was and is never a Yoruba party"

IamAtikulate:

I am glad you have admitted you don't give bloc votes.

Yes we don't give bloc votes likewise northerners.
That's why both North and West has big stakes in Both nights parties.

2007 - Atiku - ACN

2011 - Ribadu- ACN

2015/2019 - Buhari - APC [/Quote]

Except for Buhari, did Akitu and Ribadu win SW?


[quote] How many of them won without hiding under other people's bloc votes?

At least they're bold enough to challenge the northerners

Wetin concern us with Awo's skirmishes? [/Quote]
It won't concern you when you know the bad role you played


[quote] The last time we checked, we only ran once on Northern ticket and we replicated by voting Yaradu en bloc. So try another lie.


Awo was hoping on NCNC to smuggle himself into federal power, he failed.

Abiola relied on Northern votes to win and his hatred for Igbos cost him his presidency.

OBJ relied on SE/SS and Maurice Iwu to win the presidency.

You ran With Zik licking the northern ass
You ran with Alex also licking the northern ass

Yet we supported GEJ and OBJ twice. Another lie pls.

Awolowo ran thrice yet you didn't support him, there was no southern unity then

You didn't support Abiola, there was no southern unity then

You didn't support falae, there was no southern unity then

You organise 1million march for abacha, there was no southern unity then abi

Yes, Abiola said he couldn't do without Igbos. We taught him a lesson.

So Ikwerres are Igbos now?

Fear who no fear Yoruba people.

Lol, you didn't taught Abiola a lesson the northerners did.

Ask an average Hausa man or yoruba man that Chinedu, chibuzor, Kelechi, Ngozi, are names related to which tribe?

Him go tell you Ikewerre Abi?
Ikewerre ko, ikewere ni

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IamAtikulate:

70% is not a bloc vote.

SE voted 96% while SS gave 94% in the same election.

SW don't give bloc votes no matter who is on the ballot. Its evident.


In 1999, Tinubu was an emerging Yoruba leader. He supported Falae against OBJ and again, there was this question on OBJ paternity.

Today, Tinubu has lost some of the magic. In SW most of the dissident votes are to spite Tinubu.

Dont get me wrong, Yorubas give bloc votes but SW don't - non indigenes and anti-Tinubu elements tend to split their votes.

There are close to 35% non indigenes in SW. This explains why their votes is always 40-60 or slight variations.

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Kuku say the whole SW ain't Yoruba.
1959 - Awolowo
1979 - Awolowo
1983 - Awolowo
1993 - Abiola
1999 - Falae
2003 - OBJ

With yoruba choice as president yet SW don't give bloc votes.

Oro runrun.
Go to bed abeq

Sammy07:

Yes we don't give bloc votes likewise northerners. That's why both North and West has big stakes in Both nights parties.

SW have no stake in PDP. SE remains their strongest hold

IamAtikulate:

SW have no stake in PDP. SE remains their strongest hold

Go to bed Abeq.

Sammy07:

Kuku say the whole SW ain't Yoruba. 1959 - Awolowo 1979 - Awolowo 1983 - Awolowo 1993 - Abiola 1999 - Falae 2003 - OBJ
With yoruba choice as president yet SW don't give bloc votes.
Oro runrun. Go to bed abeq

2003?
An election an Igboman rigged for OBJ. SW don't give bloc votes.

IamAtikulate:

2003?

An election an Igboman rigged for OBJ. SW don't give bloc votes.

2003 election results bros.

Sammy07:


2003 election results bros.

Your map just proved what I am saying.

Buhari was running with an Igboman. Over 70% voted for OBJ in all SW expect Lagos.

Why?

We can break your bloc vote dude.

Harrynight:



Apc presidential ticked will be zoned to the South but All eligible and qualified candidate from the North can contest the primary!

There is nothing new or special in the statement.

In 1999, Abubakar Rimi was contesting the PDP primaries but he later backed out when he saw the body language of the party's stakeholders.
In 2003, both Rimi and Gemade contested the PDP primaries but they lost.
In 2007, Rochas Okorocha came second after Yar'Adua in the PDP primaries

In 2011, Atiku Abubakar was chosen as the 'North's consesus candidate' to slug it out with GEJ but he lost.


In the 2014 APC primaries, Gov Rochas Okorocha contested the APC primaries.

IamAtikulate:

Your map just proved what I am saying.

Buhari was running with an Igboman. Over 70% voted for OBJ in all SW expect Lagos.

Why?

We can break your bloc vote dude.

It also proved what I am saying that Yorubas gives over 70% to any party running with a Yoruba man as President.

Why didn't they give obj over 70% in 1999? Because he was not there choice.

BTW, You can break our bloc vote yet your bloc votes isn't helping you, it's causing harm than good.
Even the northerners don't give bloc votes.

That's why they're taking you for granted.
PDP can give NE / SS or NE / SW as presidential candidate in 2023 because they know they'll always get bloc votes from you.