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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:52pm On Jan 12, 2021
edi287:

Nketiah has never played in Bundesliga
Smith Rowe was mostly injured during his spell at Leipzig
Sancho and Jude Bellingham are the guaranteed successes on your list.
Lookman did well first spell but got benched in his second spell.
Reece Oxford has been okay and is only starting to find his feet again recently.
Don't know too much about Matondo.

You could add to that list Batshuayi a player unable to get a look in at Chelsea but ripped the Bundesliga.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovich: 4:01pm On Jan 12, 2021
Subzero047:


What do you mean by better, because he has scored more goals in a lesser league?

Besides he's not at the required level yet so his call up is out of the discussion
To the first question you asked, my answer is yes.
To your second question, well it depends on what Rohr wants. If I ask you to list the players we have at the required level you can't name them, the ones you listed haven't done exceptionally this season in their leagues.

Mind you there is no such thing as experimenting in football, at some point players will make their debut for teams and if they are good they are retained if not they stop getting call ups.

Nwakaeme and Simy all played for Nigeria at some point and we all followed the abuse they got due to their performances on the field of play.

The SE have a lot of work to do in the striking department, it's not enough for Rohr to list Chukwueze, Musa, Ejuke, Iwobi, Simon, Kalu as forwards on his call ups whereas they are not. So saying that a striker who is doing well in Belgium shouldn't be considered is not a good thing.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 4:14pm On Jan 12, 2021
Karlovich:
To the first question you asked, my answer is yes.
To your second question, well it depends on what Rohr wants. If I ask you to list the players we have at the required level you can't name them, the ones you listed haven't done exceptionally this season in their leagues.

Mind you there is no such thing as experimenting in football, at some point players will make their debut for teams and if they are good they are retained if not they stop getting call ups.

Nwakaeme and Simy all played for Nigeria at some point and we all followed the abuse they got due to their performances on the field of play.

The SE have a lot of work to do in the striking department, it's not enough for Rohr to list Chukwueze, Musa, Ejuke, Iwobi, Simon, Kalu as forwards on his call ups whereas they are not. So saying that a striker who is doing well in Belgium shouldn't be considered is not a good thing.

Well there is a required level and the bar is moving higher and higher, at a certain time 15+ goals in the Dutch league would have gotten you a first team Striker or performing credibly in France or Turkey but it hasn't even gotten Cyriel Dessers, Maja and Nwakaeme 2 caps each

So you would be deceiving yourself if you think there is a no bar for SE invitation or that Ugbo has gotten anywhere near it grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:17pm On Jan 12, 2021
12large1:


10 league goals in Epl, Seria and la liga is more valuable than 30 league goals at belgium league. Bundesliga to me is 50/50 I think they're also a farmers league but there's bayern Munich that holds weight

In uefa golden shoe rankings a player with 30 league goals have a better point than an epl Laliga seria A player with 10 goals

Stop saying nonsense just because you wanna diss onauchu

Bundesliga to you is a farmers league because you know nothing about football

Bundesliga to the real football world is not a farmers league ,your opinion will not be needed in uefa leagues ratings

Thank you

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovich: 5:18pm On Jan 12, 2021
Subzero047:


Well there is a required level and the bar is moving higher and higher, at a certain time 15+ goals in the Dutch league would have gotten you a first team Striker or performing credibly in France or Turkey but it hasn't even gotten Cyriel Dessers, Maja and Nwakaeme 2 caps each

So you would be deceiving yourself if you think there is a no bar for SE invitation or that Ugbo has gotten anywhere near it grin
Lol, okay based on your required level assessment suggest the strikers that should be called up? List their names because the 3 (Maja, Dessers, Nwakaeme) you mentioned have 10 league goals combined together this season

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:20pm On Jan 12, 2021
Karlovich:
Which incumbent have been excellent in the SE apart from Osimhen? We all witnessed the 4 games we played last year, unless you are suggesting we list only Osimhen as our CF in upcoming national team squads.

You Dey mind am

Some people sha
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovich: 5:24pm On Jan 12, 2021
andrewbaba44:


You Dey mind am

Some people sha
Imagine, they are talking as if we are Germany, Spain or France national team that have luxury of quality strikers at our disposal.
Worst part is the assumption that we don't need certain players whereas we all saw our last 4 games and the level of complaints after those games.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:25pm On Jan 12, 2021
Subzero047:


What do you mean by better, because he has scored more goals in a lesser league?

Besides he's not at the required level yet so his call up is out of the discussion

So who are at the required level to be called up

Sorry I forget super eagles have talents like mbappe neymar

Smh
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 5:25pm On Jan 12, 2021
Karlovich:
Lol, okay based on your required level assessment suggest the strikers that should be called up? List their names because the 3 you mentioned have 10 league goals combined together this season.

Osimhen, Onuachu, Iheanacho, Dessers, Maja are the regulars, Ugbo would do more than score 10 goals in the Belgian league to displace any of those
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:27pm On Jan 12, 2021
Karlovich:
Imagine, they are talking as if we are Germany, Spain or France national team that have luxury of quality strikers at our disposal.

We are not even up to some average European teams self
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:31pm On Jan 12, 2021
komekn:


You could add to that list Batshuayi a player unable to get a look in at Chelsea but ripped the Bundesliga.

Ripped bundesliga with 7 goals in 10 games then he did quite well at crystal palace with 5 goals in 11 games which is just a little different from bvb stats grin

Bats is not a Chelsea flop ,was never first choice or even starting games ,he is still in the epl for a good reason

If there is anywhere batshuayi flopped it’s at Laliga grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovich: 5:32pm On Jan 12, 2021
Subzero047:


Osimhen, Onuachu, Iheanacho, Dessers, Maja are the regulars, Ugbo would do more than score 10 goals in the Belgian league to displace any of those
Iheanacho 0 goals in 8 games this season
Maja 2 goals in 17 games this season
Dessers 4 goals in 15 matches
Onuachu 19 goals in 19 matches
Osimhen 2 goals in 6 matches
Ugbo 10 goals in 17 matches

Ugbo is clearly doing better than Maja, Iheanacho and Dessers even Osimhen at the moment based on the above stats.
If for instance 4 strikers are called up to the eagles I don't see a reason why he shouldn't be in contention for a place in the team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovich: 5:34pm On Jan 12, 2021
andrewbaba44:


We are not even up to some average European teams self
Exactly
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:36pm On Jan 12, 2021
Subzero047:


Well there is a required level and the bar is moving higher and higher, at a certain time 15+ goals in the Dutch league would have gotten you a first team Striker or performing credibly in France or Turkey but it hasn't even gotten Cyriel Dessers, Maja and Nwakaeme 2 caps each

So you would be deceiving yourself if you think there is a no bar for SE invitation or that Ugbo has gotten anywhere near it grin

One of the issues l have raised continously is our DOUBLE STANDARD.

What was the bar when, Nwakali( both brothers) Osimhen, Iwobi, Chukwueze, KC, Maja, etc were first invited to the SE? ❓

You are changing the goal posts in the middle of the game.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:37pm On Jan 12, 2021
Karlovich:

Iheanacho 0 goals in 8 games this season
Maja 2 goals in 17 games this season
Dessers 4 goals in 15 matches
Onuachu 19 goals in 19 matches
Osimhen 2 goals in 6 matches
Ugbo 10 goals in 17 matches

Ugbo is clearly doing better than Maja, Iheanacho and Dessers even Osimhen at the moment based on the above stats.
If for instance 4 strikers are called up to the eagles I don't see a reason why he shouldn't be in contention for a place in the team.



Agreed without reservation or question.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 5:58pm On Jan 12, 2021
Karlovich:
Very big lie.


Well both are opinions so I won't lose sleep. Even if u want to argue about Awoniyi and Akpom, he still has Sadiq Umar and Onuachu clearly ahead of him

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovich: 6:01pm On Jan 12, 2021
BascoVanVeli:



Well both are opinions so I won't lose sleep. Even if u want to argue about Awoniyi and Akpom, he still has Sadiq Umar and Onuachu clearly ahead of him
Umar, Awoniyi and Akpom don't have caps for the SE, they are all on the same level with Ugbo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 6:06pm On Jan 12, 2021
Karlovich:
Umar, Awoniyi and Akpom don't have caps for the SE, they are all on the same level with Ugbo

Awoniyi and Sadiq have represented the country before so that's not true

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 6:08pm On Jan 12, 2021
Karlovich:

Iheanacho 0 goals in 8 games this season
Maja 2 goals in 17 games this season
Dessers 4 goals in 15 matches
Onuachu 19 goals in 19 matches
Osimhen 2 goals in 6 matches
Ugbo 10 goals in 17 matches

Ugbo is clearly doing better than Maja, Iheanacho and Dessers even Osimhen at the moment based on the above stats.
If for instance 4 strikers are called up to the eagles I don't see a reason why he shouldn't be in contention for a place in the team.



Do you consider league difficulty? What has Ugbo done that Onyekuru, Nwakaeme, Dessers, Umar has not done, did it get them SE callups?

There is a reason Rohr draws a line at certain leagues, you can't score ten goals at Afghanistan league at be expecting a callup grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 6:10pm On Jan 12, 2021
komekn:


One of the issues l have raised continously is our DOUBLE STANDARD.

What was the bar when, Nwakali( both brothers) Osimhen, Iwobi, Chukwueze, KC, Maja, etc were first invited to the SE? ❓

You are changing the goal posts in the middle of the game.


Are u saying Agbo's 10 goals in Belgium are worth more that Chuba's 4 in the championship?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Toylove: 6:13pm On Jan 12, 2021
BascoVanVeli:



Aguda is an AMF that can also be deployed on the wings while Anaemena is a big strong no nonsense center back.

I don't think they will look out of place with the super eagles especially Anaemena who would add toughness to the side.

Maybe we should try aguda in the amf position during one of these friendly matches and see what he can do.

I'm not sure the super eagles needs anaemena, we have a lot of options at the CB postion, even rohr sef confuse sotey he dey play CB for RB
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Toylove: 6:14pm On Jan 12, 2021
jieta:
Toylove, as if basco will have a contrary opinion, we have seen it time without number that when ever we invite these homebase to the national team there always use it as a stepping stone to europe.

Me I'm just concerned about that AMF position
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovich: 6:19pm On Jan 12, 2021
Subzero047:


Do you consider league difficulty? What has Ugbo done that Onyekuru, Nwakaeme, Dessers, Umar has not done, did it get them SE callups?

There is a reason Rohr draws a line at certain leagues, you can't score ten goals at Afghanistan league at be expecting a callup grin
Actually Onyekuru got call up to the national team, currently his career is not progressing in France. Dessers and Nwakaeme also got a call up to the national team based on their performances for their clubsides. Umar so far hasn't been called up as well but should also be in contention for a place.
The Belgian league is not in Afghanistan so I don't see what the issue is.
Calling up inactive or non performing players simply because they play England, Spain, Italy, France or Germany league is not good especially if you have equally good ones in decent leagues like Netherlands, Belgium or Portugal.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jieta: 7:11pm On Jan 12, 2021
Is as if nigeria has qualify for un17 Afcon


Ivory coast beating ghana 3 - 1 pave the way for us.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 7:26pm On Jan 12, 2021
Aubameyang, Son and Fuchs say hi

komekn:


You could add to that list Batshuayi a player unable to get a look in at Chelsea but ripped the Bundesliga.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:07pm On Jan 12, 2021
Alhassan going up against Porto in a cup match

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:09pm On Jan 12, 2021
jieta:
Is as if nigeria has qualify for un17 Afcon


Ivory coast beating ghana 3 - 1 pave the way for us.

We are only through to the semis of WAFU B. Only the winner of this zone qualifies for the CAF U17.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 12large1: 8:20pm On Jan 12, 2021
Subzero047:


Do you consider league difficulty? What has Ugbo done that Onyekuru, Nwakaeme, Dessers, Umar has not done, did it get them SE callups?

There is a reason Rohr draws a line at certain leagues, you can't score ten goals at Afghanistan league at be expecting a callup grin
Don't mind them let them be playing dumb. If league doesn't matter we should call a player at indian league who happens to be Nigerian
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:20pm On Jan 12, 2021
Good move

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:31pm On Jan 12, 2021
Golden Eaglets Through To Semi-final of 2020 WAFU U-17 Cup

Nigeria’s U-17 male team, the Golden Eaglets Tuesday booked their passage into the semi-final of the ongoing 2021 WAFU U-17 tournament in Lome, Togo.

The Fatai Amoo led boys qualified for the semi-final after Ivory Coast defeated Ghana by 3-1 in the last Group B match played Tuesday evening.

Nigeria needed Ivory Coast to do them a favour by defeating Ghana at least by a two goal margin.

Nigeria played two matches, lost one, and drew one against Ivory Coast and Ghana, respectively.

However, they qualified ahead of Ghana on goal difference.

Ivory Coast and Nigeria are now through to the semi-final and have qualified for the 2021 U-17 Africa Cup of Nations in Morocco.

*Semifinals on Friday �

1st Semifinals: Burkina Faso Vs Nigeria (5pm)

2nd semifinals: Côte d’Ivoire Vs Niger Republic (8pm)

Winners book a place in the final and a spot at the CAF U17 Nations Cup in Morocco.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovich: 8:34pm On Jan 12, 2021
12large1:

Don't mind them let them be playing dumb. If league doesn't matter we should call a player at indian league who happens to be Nigerian
I suggest you should then name the Nigerian players in India or Afghanistan let us compare their stats with the others.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jieta: 8:46pm On Jan 12, 2021
Icon4s:


We are only through to the semis of WAFU B. Only the winner of this zone qualifies for the CAF U17.
Oh!! My mistake, i just check it out. I think the top two the winner and the runner up.

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