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Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by gracechellar(f): 8:44pm On Nov 29, 2020 |
jiggaz:ThAnks for this. Wonderful write up 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by Maximus85(m): 8:52pm On Nov 29, 2020 |
damosky12: No, I don't get? Why did he pray in that gibberish language and who is there to interpret? |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by Nobody: 9:15pm On Nov 29, 2020 |
banmee:May God forgive you for you do not know what you are doing |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by Nobody: 9:16pm On Nov 29, 2020 |
perestroika19:I didnt smoke anything, I was drunk in the spirit. Something that you wouldn't know about. |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by jiggaz(m): 9:23pm On Nov 29, 2020 |
gracechellar:Thanks alot. 1 Like |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by perestroika19: 9:41pm On Nov 29, 2020 |
Nuttella:Change your dealer 1 Like |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by Nobody: 9:43pm On Nov 29, 2020 |
perestroika19:you are a very carnal minded someone, my prayer for you is to be delivered from demonic chains. |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by perestroika19: 10:47pm On Nov 29, 2020 |
Nuttella:No greater demon other than what you take that makes to start speaking Chinese 1 Like |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by Goshen360(m): 11:35pm On Nov 29, 2020 |
Nuttella: Please back off and retrace your steps....you may have been taught wrongly about tongues....I was once like u but im not ashamed to come out and see i was wrong. Btw, let me ask you something that might set u free from false teaching of tongues..... How the one who interpret tongues know what to interpret when the interpreter himself doesn't understand the language or tongues? 1 Like |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by Greatuzoewulu: 12:22am On Nov 30, 2020 |
speaking in tongues done in the Bible was for a purpose which is for communication. What is the purpose of trying to say something that doesn't serve any purpose. I don't believe in these our speaking in tongues |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by memd: 1:33am On Nov 30, 2020 |
hopefulLandlord: Hello sir/ma. It is indeed interesting that you have taken time to type all these. Seems to me like compassion and patriotism. I've seen things along the lines of this. But going by the rules of critical reasoning, one is supposed to consider all sides equally, without bias. But from all I've read of your comment, I haven't seen much of anything that doesn't stem directly from bias towards Faith and Religion. Really sir/ma, if we will reason critically on this, how do you blame all the faults of a nation that's over a century old, on prayers, and nothing but prayers alone? I don't see how. You mean to say, the lack of infrastructural development, the lack of good roads, the poor health care, the violent elections, the poor educational system, the prevalent corruption, the endemic poverty, and every thing else, is due to the simple fact that we pray? Really sir/ma, I would like to reason with you if only you'll provide a link, even in one of those instances, where the problem has been caused by prayer. You say prayer is the problem, okay fine. But my analytical mind cannot but stop to reason, why? Why is prayer, and prayer only, and you mean absolutely nothing else but prayer, the root of the problem? How? I would appreciate if you would answer this sir/ma. Really, it's all one question severally rephrased. You cited a lot of nations where there has been development. You stated that these developments have taken place "while we were praying." But I have to wonder, really? How old are these nations, compared to a nation of such immense diversity composed of scores of smaller nations that were amalgamated barely a century ago? Okay, let's move on from that. I do not know much history. But hey, I've seen some. You imply that all these other nations you cited as the "better examples" don't pray? Is that so? Perhaps you haven't heard about the huge tent revivals that were prevalent in the late 1800s and early 1900s? And in "America". Yes, that's USA, United States of America! These meetings recorded hundreds of thousands of people, human beings, in attendance. And there wasn't only one of these meetings. Many of them were going on simultaneously across the country. Do you mean to tell us then, that during those years, USA wasn't developing, wasn't progressing at all? I mean, there were hundreds of thousands of people attending tent revivals, there were thousands more on missionary fields across the world, so who is left to "develop the nation?" Isn't that a major part of the nation's workforce? So, if prayer was the problem, I think we can "reasonably infer" that USA should have had no development at all in those decades. Or what do you think? Men like Kenneth E. Hagin, Smith Wigglesworth, Oral Roberts, and women inclusive, spent hours and days doing nothing but praying. Kenneth E. Hagin could go on for hours(4, 5 hours or more) on end doing nothing else but praying IN TONGUES! And he wasn't the only one. So, why didn't America stop progressing. Did you hear of the Scottish Revival? Yes, in Scotland! A revival so strong that it ran the alcohol businesses down for many years after. So, why isn't Scotland stuck in a mire of underdevelopment? From what you've commented here, sir/ma, it doesn't appear like you enjoy praying very much. I don't like to, but your comment forces me to wonder, "what have you contributed to grow the nation, since you don't pray?" Of course, it's not a one man job to build a nation, so I don't expect that you do it alone. I just wonder. Now, all these nations you've stated, say USA now, they're not very much on the faith anymore, even though they have the inscription, "IN GOD WE TRUST" in every courtroom and every government building. It's part of their national identity. But again, do you mean there are no churches anymore over there, no one prays anymore? Then why are they still progressing? Let's talk Dubai, located in a strict Islamic state where many people would miss their 3 meals a day before they can miss their 5 prayers a day! They pray! Why is there so much prosperity over there? Why do they have some of the best, most modern infrastructure over there?I mean, they pray and prayer should stop all progress, as I gather from your comment, isn't it? But if that were to be the case, Dubai should be just as good as some backwater city over here. Let's see, since you want us to believe prayer is the problem. The budget for the annual salaries of 109 lawmakers is about 3 times more than the educational budget for over a million undergraduate students in the nation. Over a million undergraduates, that's not counting the average of 1.5 million that take UTME every year. That's not counting the students of the secondary schools and pupils in primary schools. The postgraduates have not even factored in. Of course, lecturers and professors will be paid from that. Yet, the budget is three times less than that for 109 senators. And you say prayer is the problem? Really? Combine the health budget for over 200million citizens, and it's still less than the budget for 109 senators. And you still tell me prayer is the problem? Government officials reshuffle public funds to suit their pockets. But still, we blame prayer for that? First class graduates are "honored" with special teaching jobs with under 40,000 naira per month as salaries. How does prayer take a fault for that? The list could go on and on, but I've typed so much already. I'm not saying you're wrong, why would I? I just hope that you can explain how all the problems that beset a one-hundred-and-some year old nation all tie on prayer? How? Really, how? I have considered it critically, and I see no reason in it. I hope that you can show me some iota of reason in that claim, and I would be most glad to follow along in your reason if it appears to be reasonable. But sir/ma, I would like to invite you to try something. Try prayer. Just for two minutes, close your eyes. You don't have to plan ahead what to say, just try it. Just express your heart like you were talking to a friend. You don't have to say it out. Just make an attempt. I really would appreciate it you did. I promise you one thing, you'll see that prayer works. Prayer doesn't create problems, it solves them. If you want reason on that, I'll give it. Pardon if there're misspellings or messed-up sentences. I haven't taken time to edit. 1 Like |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by memd: 1:57am On Nov 30, 2020 |
Hello! Let's look at it from a purely grammatical, literal point of view. I don't like to get into an argument, but let's just consider it together. 1 Corinthians 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. This is KJV. A little groundwork, 1 Cor 13, the whole chapter, is talking about love(which KJV translates as charity). Now, this first verse, like many other verses in this chapter, is a conditional statement. " 'Though' I speak", some translations say " 'If I speak' ". It is not saying speaking with other tongues sounds like tinkling cymbal. Rather, it is relating spiritual experiences with the topic of this chapter, which is primarily "LOVE." So it says, "if I speak in tongues, but I don't have love in my heart, then my speaking in tongues is useless, just noise." If you proceed to Chapter 14, it deals with speaking in tongues. Somewhere, the Apostle Paul says, "I thank my God that I speak in tongues more than ye all!" He speaks in tongues more than the whole of the Corinthian church! So, why then would he say that speaking in tongues is noisemaking? He would be contradicting himself. To clarify again, it's clear that what 1 Cor 13:1 is saying is this: "If I don't love/care for other people, and I speak in tongues, then I'm only making noise." It's like saying, "if I'm telling everybody I'm going to China, and I don't even have a passport, then I'm only making a noise and disturbing myself." Love is a core christian value. If you don't have love, you're not a true christian. That's another way of putting it literally, striping off all the figurative expressions. Read through Chapters 13 and 14, and may God give us deeper understanding. |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by memd: 2:15am On Nov 30, 2020 |
ZinoFasisi: You're right in that it's not a fruit of the spirit, I very much agree. There're only 9 of those. Rather it is a gift of the spirit. You say Jesus never said anything about it, but didn't he say "I shall send the comforter(the Holy Spirit) unto you?" Did you see where the Bible says, "building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Spirit"? Hope you understand what it means to pray in the spirit? It's same as saying praying in tongues. Another thing, you say praying in tongues is not a must for all baptized. Do you mean water baptism or spirit baptism? They're two different things. Water Baptism is done for it's significance, as it's analogous to dying(to sin) and resurrecting(to righteousness). That's just the significance of it. But baptism in the Holy Spirit? The evidence that you see when you get baptized in the Holy Spirit is speaking in other tongues. When the Holy Spirit was first poured out as recorded in Acts, it is recorded that(paraphrased) "the place was shaken where they were assembled, and there appeared unto them cloven tongues of fire, and it sat upon every one of them, and they spoke with other tongues." There are many other recorded instances as such. |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by Ukpor1(m): 6:04am On Nov 30, 2020 |
Lord jesus I thank you for healing me |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by chatinent: 8:50am On Nov 30, 2020 |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by boscho(m): 9:36am On Nov 30, 2020 |
If you follow my previous answer about speaking in tongues and u read all those scriptures, you won't have to ask the questions again. chatinent: |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by jiggaz(m): 10:15pm On Jan 06, 2021 |
Yes Lord |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by jiggaz(m): 7:48am On Jan 07, 2021 |
Morning |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by jiggaz(m): 8:53am On Jan 08, 2021 |
Yesss |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by jiggaz(m): 3:32pm On Jan 08, 2021 |
Yeah... |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by MuttleyLaff: 8:09am On Jan 09, 2021 |
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Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by hoopernikao: 5:04pm On Jan 09, 2021 |
Goshen360: Please back off and retrace your steps....you may have been taught wrongly about tongues....I was once like u but im not ashamed to come out and see i was wrong. Btw, let me ask you something that might set u free from false teaching of tongues..... How the one who interpret tongues know what to interpret when the interpreter himself doesn't understand the language or tongues? [/quote] Bros, Compliment of the season. Trust you and yours are abounding more and more in God's goodness. It's been a while. As per your statement, Notice Paul never taught interpretation of tongues as a third party thing but to be done by the same one who spoke in tongues. All through 1 Cor 14, interpretation is for the speaker of tongues Paul did the same (spoke and interprete) Likewise interpretation of tongues was taught in epistles as part of the gift in the spirit, hence the previous knowledge of the interpreter will be irrelevant as we aren't talking about human language which is done through learning process. |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by hoopernikao: 5:10pm On Jan 09, 2021 |
ZinoFasisi: Praying in tongues and speaking in tongues are one and the same. Paul's explanation of tongues showed that. Study Paul's language switch in teaching tongues in 1 Cor 14. Praying in, praying with, speaking in, speaking with, tongues, spirit, Holy Ghost all mean the same as related to tongues. It's a grammar thing no different. Compliments Sir. |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by hoopernikao: 5:13pm On Jan 09, 2021 |
cyberuzo: James is not explaining anything different from what Paul explained in 1 Cor 14. In the spirit, in the Holy Ghost. Same thing, it's tongues. |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by MuttleyLaff: 12:14am On Jan 10, 2021 |
Goshen360:[img]https://media1./images/0231ce01bd7fce51b82d143924cb3cfd/tenor.gif[/img] Weren't we all, once like that, lmso cyberuzo: hoopernikao:Speaking in my dialect, praying in my dialect and even singing in my dialect, are each and all, the same thing, lmso |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by Goshen360(m): 7:28pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
hoopernikao: At the bold above, that's false sir. It say....when you gather to fellowship, let one speak (in tongues) and ANOTHER interpret. The text doesn't suggest only the speaker can interpret, let ANOTHER interpret. b. It also says, to one is given the gift of tongues and TO ANOTHER, the interpretation of tongues. Again, it doesn't suggest same speaker should interpret. Just my little cents! 1 Like |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by hoopernikao: 8:59pm On Jan 12, 2021 |
Goshen360: Bro, have you examined the scriptures you quoted properly? Paul never used "Let ANOTHER interpret". The word there is "Let ONE interpret". 27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. Please examine it well. In all mention of interpret in 1 Cor 14, Paul said the "he"that is, the one who spoke in tongues to interpret. Vs 5, he, the one who spoke in tongues should interpret. V 13, he, the one who spoke in tongues should pray to interpret. Vs 27 is not different. I want you to examine that again. |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by Goshen360(m): 7:39pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
hoopernikao: That suffices in the situation when the one who speaks is ALSO endured with gift of interpretation, otherwise LET HIM PRAY THAT SAME HE MAY INTERPRET. This is should line up with 1 Cor 12v10, to ANOTHER is given interpretation of tongues. So the one who speaks may or may not be the same who interpret. Btw, how does ANOTHER OR ANYONE interpret when or if what is spoken is not understood by a man? 1 cor 14v2 |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by MuttleyLaff: 1:55pm On Jan 14, 2021 |
HigherEd: MuttleyLaff:[img]https://media./images/b2d8266804889ec607ef0c4f0ae2b371/tenor.gif[/img] Two days left for Saturday the 16th, lmso |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by HigherEd: 3:46pm On Jan 14, 2021 |
MuttleyLaff:wahala dey o 1 Like |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by MuttleyLaff: 3:52pm On Jan 14, 2021 |
HigherEd:[img]https://media./images/39111464d58426da2920a865b9745c7e/tenor.gif[/img] lmso |
Re: What Are The Benefits Of Praying In Tongues? - Joseph Prince by Fortune118005(m): 6:21pm On Jan 14, 2021 |
A lot of benefits You communicate with heavenly spirits and darkness won't understand what you're saying |
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