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Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by Nobody: 12:51pm On Jan 14, 2021
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Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by jimi4us: 12:58pm On Jan 14, 2021
If I see anyone who wants to use atomic bomb to destroy Nigeria, i will encourage the person to go ahead and double the bomb incase if anyone is still alive
Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by Burruchaga71(m): 1:01pm On Jan 14, 2021
slimthugchimee2:
Cost of cement in nigeria=9$
Cost of cement india= 5$

Just one example of why cost of a project cannot be the same in every country
You really make sense
Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by AsampeteNwaanyi(f): 1:01pm On Jan 14, 2021
LZAA:

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Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by JohnBullMySon: 1:53pm On Jan 14, 2021
Expected. Nigeria government is capable of anything

Lalasticlala frontpage pls
Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by kebliss(m): 2:49pm On Jan 14, 2021
Truth is, the cost of constructing roads in the south-south region is very high, simply because of the nature of our terrain. For instance, the 38km Bodo-Bonny Road construction is to gulp approximately 200bN, a 38km road ooo! why?
ok, the road alignment spans through very natural soft marshy terrain accosted with varying degree of water level.
Some proposed section of the road embankment is up to 5m in height, now you should know settlement will be of significant importance, hence the use of pvds to quicken the settlement rate and geotextile material to improving it's stability. All of this will surely bring about an increase in construction cost. Similar issues with the Second Niger Bridge.
Now, let's look at the Abuja-Kaduna-Zaria-Kano road construction with approximately 400km in length, it's construction cost is about 165bN, waooo! We all know the terrain up North.

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Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by Nobody: 3:08pm On Jan 14, 2021
kebliss:
Truth is, the cost of constructing roads in the south-south region is very high, simply because of the nature of our terrain. For instance, the 38km Bodo-Bonny Road construction is to gulp approximately 200bN, a 38km road ooo! why?
ok, the road alignment spans through very natural soft marshy terrain accosted with varying degree of water level.
Some proposed section of the road embankment is up to 5m in height, now you should know settlement will be of significant importance, hence the use of pvds to quicken the settlement rate and geotextile material to improving it's stability. All of this will surely bring about an increase in construction cost. Similar issues with the Second Niger Bridge.
Now, let's look at the Abuja-Kaduna-Zaria-Kano road construction with approximately 400km in length, it's construction cost is about 165bN, waooo! We all know the terrain up North.

Shut up if you have nothing to say. Onitsha where the bridge is located is not a south south zone. Stop defending the indefensible

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Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by Faithful007: 3:09pm On Jan 14, 2021
kebliss:
Truth is, the cost of constructing roads in the south-south region is very high, simply because of the nature of our terrain. For instance, the 38km Bodo-Bonny Road construction is to gulp approximately 200bN, a 38km road ooo! why?
ok, the road alignment spans through very natural soft marshy terrain accosted with varying degree of water level.
Some proposed section of the road embankment is up to 5m in height, now you should know settlement will be of significant importance, hence the use of pvds to quicken the settlement rate and geotextile material to improving it's stability. All of this will surely bring about an increase in construction cost. Similar issues with the Second Niger Bridge.
Now, let's look at the Abuja-Kaduna-Zaria-Kano road construction with approximately 400km in length, it's construction cost is about 165bN, waooo! We all know the terrain up North.
All those comparisons i posted, is there any one that is not in marshy terrain. Is the any bridge over water that is not in marshy terrain? Or is there anything special with the Niger river? The bridges I posted, are over rivers and lagoons that are far larger and wider than the Niger river. Look at a second picture of one of the examples, So this ain't marshy?

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Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by kebliss(m): 3:18pm On Jan 14, 2021
OOzz:


Shut up if you have nothing to say. Onitsha where the bridge is located is not a south south zone. Stop defending the indefensible

A quick reminder;
This is 2021 yet you choose not to be civil
Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by kebliss(m): 3:25pm On Jan 14, 2021
Faithful007:
All those comparisons i posted, is there any one that is not in marshy terrain. Is the any bridge over water that is not in marshy terrain? Or is there anything special with the Niger river? The bridges I posted, are over rivers and lagoons that are far larger and wider than the Niger river. Look at a second picture of one of the examples, So this ain't marshy?

Imagine a road Embankment up to 5m high at some sections of the road alignment. Estimating a sandfill vol of about 4million cum at a rate say #14,000 per cum, what ya get ??
Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by Nobody: 3:30pm On Jan 14, 2021
kebliss:


A quick reminder;
This is 2021 yet you choose not to be civil

I'm sorry, but ontisha is SE and not SS shaa
Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by Nobody: 3:34pm On Jan 14, 2021
Faithful007:
All those comparisons i posted, is there any one that is not in marshy terrain. Is the any bridge over water that is not in marshy terrain? Or is there anything special with the Niger river? The bridges I posted, are over rivers and lagoons that are far larger and wider than the Niger river. Look at a second picture of one of the examples, So this ain't marshy?

From onitsha to obosi where d bridge and the road is located, none of the place has marshy terrain.
Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by kebliss(m): 3:40pm On Jan 14, 2021
OOzz:


I'm sorry, but ontisha is SE and not SS shaa

I never said Onitsha is SE, just comparing construction pecularities.
Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by Faithful007: 3:46pm On Jan 14, 2021
kebliss:


Imagine a road Embankment up to 5m high at some sections of the road alignment. Estimating a sandfill vol of about 4million cum at a rate say #14,000 per cum, what ya get ??
Acoording to Juilus Berger 3.8 million m3 was required for the roads. From quick research now, A 20T truck carries 16m3 at the cost of 40,000NGN. This results in total cost of 9.5 billion NGN or 24 million dollars. So thats not where the heavy costs came from. Concrete works take the most amount, so from Julius berger website 153000m3 of concrete was required. Inputing that into project estimation websites show that the project cost should not go beyond $100milllon with price fluctuations. and concrete foundations are usually cheaper than the beams. So you can reduce that to about 65 million dollars.
Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by Oksman(m): 4:22pm On Jan 14, 2021
ChoCho54:
Just imagine your thought process!

You took the words out of my mouth. He couldn't comprehend the submission of OP. A similar thing happened when the LNG project was built. A similar project in Indonesia cost 800 million dollars! what the government of the day told us was the cost was about 1.7billion dollars. I weep for Nigeria.

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Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by Faithful007: 6:57pm On Jan 14, 2021
Oksman:


You took the words out of my mouth. He couldn't comprehend the submission of OP. A similar thing happened when the LNG project was built. A similar project in Indonesia cost 800 million dollars! what the government of the day told us was the cost was about 1.7billion dollars. I weep for Nigeria.
the profits made off infrastructure in Nigeria is so high. I wish someone takes it up.
Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by Faithful007: 10:53am On Jan 19, 2021
Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by EdCure: 11:55am On Jan 19, 2021
Nigeria is the land of institutionalized fraud.
Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by Yebosola(m): 12:04pm On Jan 19, 2021
Okoroawusa:
What exactly is your point? They should stop building the 2nd Niger Bridge?


I wonder oh, some people can't just see good abt their country, finding faults in everything.

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Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by Duridadi: 5:17pm On Jan 19, 2021
Okoroawusa:
What exactly is your point? They should stop building the 2nd Niger Bridge?
..Abeg help me ask the mumu undecided
Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by Duridadi: 5:21pm On Jan 19, 2021
Faithful007:
Seun, Lalasticlala, Plese help, so Nigerians can see the truth

The Second Niger Bridge Project costs a whopping N414bn (approx $1.09B). The bridge alone costs N206bn ($540m), while the link roads cost 208bn ($545m). This puts it very close to the most expensive bridges in the world. While there has been far costlier bridge projects in the world, the Niger Bridge has nothing spectacular about its design or the terrain to justify the heavy expenditure. It is neither a suspension bridge (Supension bridges can be very costly) nor a cable stayed one. It is just a beam bridge and these are the cheapest bridge designs you can ever find. Secondly we can't even say that the Niger is very deep or the topography is a mountaneous one that requires complex foundations or towering beams. Additionally, the Niger bridge is just 1.6km. Beam Bridges that surpass this in cost have had to multiply the distance by nothing less than twenty times and cheaper bridges are even far longer. For example, the Dhola Sadiya Bridge, a similar beam bridge in india (a country with labour and construction costs similar to ours), completed in 2017, has a length of 9.15km and a span that is equal to one twin of the 2nd Niger bridge. Now, doing the math, 3.2km of this bridge should be similar in costs to the 1.6km Second Niger Bridge, but things get shockingly funny. This bridge only costs $158 million totally so 3.2km of the bridge should be about $53 million. But here our bridge being made of 'gold' and not reinforced concrete costs $540 millon. Lets drive home the seriousness of this inflation with another example. Kacchi Dargah–Bidupur Bridge is under construction in india (Started in 2017, after Second Niger Bridge, and will commissioned in 2021, before Second Niger Bridge) is a six lane bridge(Second Niger bridge is six-lane as well). Now see its peculiarites, Firstly it is a 9.76km suspension bridge (Remember I said, suspension bridges are costly) with 13.24 km of approach roads. Now, the Second Niger Bridge is 1.6km bridge with 10.3km of approach roads. Let me shock you, the Kacchi Dargah–Bidupur Bridge total project costs only $699 milllon dollars while its baby brother in Nigeria has a net worth of $1.09bn. Is the Nigerian Government not wonderful?

I have a clue to the reason for all this. Maybe, its because the Nigerian Government is not paying for it, as well as other projects Nigerians are celebrating. Go check the costs. There seems to be an agreement between the Nigerian Government and its Chinese investors to heavily take advantage of the huge Nigerian population and use unreasonable costs to build infrastructure and dupe citizens. If you don't know, these bridges are being tolled, the railways are being paid for by Nigerians. The old bridge will be blocked to major traffic and every driver, transporter, commuter, sheep, goat, cow, anything at all passing that bridge will pay that $1.09bn to the last dime. This goes for the railways as well. Since railways are cheaper to run, the tickets will be hiked and Nigerians will pay the bloated costs. This is daylight robbery.

Pic 1: Second Niger Bridge
Pic 2: Dhola–Sadiya Bridge
pic 3: Kacchi Dargah–Bidupur Bridge

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Modified: The Second Niger Bridge will be tolled for a whole 25 years!
.... Go and kie yourself if you dont like the on going 2 nd Niger bridge. grin
Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by etrouble: 5:22pm On Jan 19, 2021
Faithful007:
Nobody is against the bridge. Read the article, costs of construction is bloated and used as a means to extort money. The handlers of that bridge will toll it for a whole 25 years.

If you are a true son of your father, then you will never use a fraudulent bring built by your generational enemy a Fulani herdsman called Muhammadu Buhari
Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by IamAtikulate: 6:10pm On Jan 19, 2021
I don't have problem with the cost, my only problem is that the bridge is too low to allow ship to go under to Onitsha if the East decides to dredge the Niger.

This means any meaningful port can only be built at Ogbaru when we already have a port at Onitsha.

Ogbaru to Onitsha by road is over 2 hours.
Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by blamingthedevil: 6:17pm On Jan 19, 2021
They should award the contract for the bridge at inflated price like PDP and then pocket the money without execution as they have done for 16 years? Is it what you want?
Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by Gandollaar(f): 8:01pm On Jan 31, 2021
AsampeteNwaanyi:
wait ooo
is my eyes deceiving me shocked

is this our helinues


ewoooooo
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look who's back
Denreledave accused helinues of been Igbo?

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Re: The Shocking Outrageous Expenditure On The Niger Bridge And The Ongoing Fraud by kebliss(m): 9:05pm On Feb 11, 2021
IamAtikulate:
I don't have problem with the cost, my only problem is that the bridge is too low to allow ship to go under to Onitsha if the East decides to dredge the Niger.

This means any meaningful port can only be built at Ogbaru when we already have a port at Onitsha.

Ogbaru to Onitsha by road is over 2 hours.

Says who?!
With a navigation channel of 150m in width and over 15m in height x3 with respect to the HWL and HHWL

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