Liposure:
BH is only applying guerilla tactics doesnt mean they are technically advance. NA are far more superior in all ramifications. BH have suffered more casualties

are you for real,BH are lesser in numbers and you believe they suffer more casualties lol don't be silly,BH kills more soldiers than you can imagine,a real BH recruit is well feed and properly armed and even well trained maybe you should watch a video of a boy who was among those kidnapped during that school raid, just few days there the amount of military skill he has surpasses some Nigerian soldiers try and watch the video,you call them terrorists but the truth is that they are soldiers wel trained for Killing

u can't compare because both are on different pedestals these guy develop weapons, the American govt invests more than the entire Nigerian annual budget in developing weapons and improving their military might. with American F30 something fighter jets and ripper drones I pity Nigerian soldiers, they would remotely win the war without loosing a single American life. the op just dey joke. in terms of physical strength may be naija, in terms sha but war isn't physical fight but military capabilities.

KosiGee:


I wanted to ignore this thread as I think it’s a foolish one but seeing your comment and that of Rossikii, I was compelled to post.

Men of the Nigeria military used to be rugged, fire eaters and brave. They are not what they used to be in my opinion. I don’t think that you can count on the Nigeria military to deliver like they used to.
I don’t think the camaraderie, patriotism, discipline, ruggedness and grit, intelligence and morale with which they are known for are still there. A lot of factors are required when you are talking of fighting effectiveness. There’s a lot of erosion in the Nigeria military no thanks to decades of corruption, bad leadership, incompetence, bad priorities, lack on intelligence and nepotism.

We can see all these at play in recent conflicts with Boko haram. The terrorist group still traverse our terrain boldly in trucks and personnel, launch attack and disappear! Where does that happen??

Despite what you hear about the US military or it’s pirtraya in Hollywood , they are amongst the best 3 in the world if not the best...logistics, motivation, training and discipline and most importantly PATRIOTISM.

Someone said they used lots of air support. Are you being serious? Battle isn’t a street brawl where you jump in and start throwing wild punches...if you have good and better reach, it’s wise to use it effectively to jab your opponent into submission. Every good fighter knows that whether it’s boxing, martial art or the military.

Nigeria isn’t lacking in personnel and self motivation but those won’t take you far. The edge they’d give you is very limited.

The thread question is a silly one and the comparison is very unfair.

Comparing both is like comparing a well motivated and talented athlete who has good nutrition and supplements, trains in a well equipped gym and environment under various top personal trainers to someone who trains in the backyard with lorry fly wheels and bars welded and coupled together, eats badly, has big pecs, deltoids and biceps but with spindly and badly trained, badly shaped and untouched leg muscles with very bad core strength.

After sinking Trillions of dollars and losing 2.500 soldiers in Afghanistan, the US us negotiating with the same Taliban terrorists the fought with wealth, blood and tears for over a decade, they are packing up to go home with the Taliban likely in charge of Afghanistan.

Same in Iraq, over 7,000 US military men died in Iraq and Afghanistan, they are confined to the green zone in Iraq.

Fighting state actors face to face is different from fighting not state actors like terrorists, they don't do face to face battle with fighter jets, tanks, warships or special forces, they do guerilla warfare, they exploit soft targets when you are not looking.

It doesn't matter how powerful or rich you are, you can not defeat or eliminate terrorists, your best bet is to curtail and confine their activities.

BH used to set off bombs everyday, the send out suicide bombers everyday to blow up markets and even mosques, the used to set off bombs even in Abuja, they took control of nearly the whole of Borno state with their flags flying everywhere, but you don't see all that anymore, they just exploit soft targets and play hide and seek.

Terrorists are not at your doorsteps because our brave men and women are sacrificing their lives to make sure they don't show up at your door.

Shey d same ones way defeat Boko Haram technically or the ones way shoot in the air for Lekki toll gate? Abeg i ask for a friend

dejol88:

Which Nigeria forces? Why the hype? Those that couldn't defeat boko haram with same equivalent equipment? Or are you going to tell me that boko haram is better armed than Nigeria forces that they are easily dislodged in combat? See tools alone is not enough to win a war against an adversary , reason why houthi rebel are giving the Saudi run for their money.

Why can’t your almighty US army defeat ragtag Taliban forces in Afghanistan? Why are they negotiating peace with them? When the US ran into trouble in Somalia, it was the Nigeria Army that came to their rescue.

Fighting Boko Haram is not like fighting conventional wars. It is an asymmetrical warfare that is mixed with politics and religious indoctrination. Even if you kill all Boko Haram fighters today, those who believe in the ideology will raise another set of fighters tomorrow and continue the fight. So you see, defeating Boko Haram is beyond the military. We must also defeat the politics and the ideology behind the group.

Rossintii:


You will be surprised that in a full combat scenario between a ually win. If you think those cornflakes eating, pampered US troops will defeat those rugged Naija forces in man to man combat, think again. At the very most it will be a very close contest, no matter who wins.

There is a reason the US does not favour having their men on the ground in close combat, but prefer to do air strikes instead. Their fighting forces are simply not that good, and nowhere near as brave as many other troops from supposedly weaker armies.

I remember during the Somalian war in 1993 when Nigeria sent about 5,000 troops to join US forces there in Operation Restore Hope. The American troops used to beg the Nigerians to engage the Somali rebels, while all the Yanks did was mount road blocks. Nigerian troops went in and fought the

the US forces fought somali militiamen loyal to mohamed farrah aidid in 93. Remember the black hawk down incident

Remember you said US battalion with full logistical support, USA will win.

All they need to send is Naval equivalent of army battalion and remodel it into a special task force.

Three nuclear powered ships guiding 1 Carrier and with1 nuclear sub.

Position the ships strategically along the Western coast and blockade the country on sea.

Use the nuclear sub to sink all Nigerians naval ships and to harrase Nigeria coastal.

Use the Carrier to establish air superiority. US Navy has the second largest air assets in the war.

With logistical and surveillance support, Pentagon will feed the Strike Force the realtime position of Nigerian formation using satalite images.

All USA need is to sit in the water and bombard Nigerian's military formations and locations.

As long as Nigeria is not nuclear powered, it can't even stand a US platoon. All they need to send one nuclear armed platoon and provide logistical and intelligence support.

Who get time for man to man fight in this 21 century.

Akudaisi:
are you for real,BH are lesser in numbers and you believe they suffer more casualties lol don't be silly,BH kills more soldiers than you can imagine,a real BH recruit is well feed and properly armed and even well trained maybe you should watch a video of a boy who was among those kidnapped during that school raid, just few days there the amount of military skill he has surpasses some Nigerian soldiers try and watch the video,you call them terrorists but the truth is that they are soldiers wel trained for Killing

have you forgetten they use mercenaries to wage their battles

NGpatriot:



After sinking Trillions of dollars and losing 2.500 soldiers in Afghanistan, the US us negotiating with the same Taliban terrorists the fought with wealth, blood and tears for over a decade, they are packing up to go home with the Taliban likely in charge of Afghanistan.

Same in Iraq, over 7,000 US military men died in Iraq and Afghanistan, they are confined to the green zone in Iraq.

Fighting state actors face to face is different from fighting not state actors like terrorists, they don't do face to face battle with fighter jets, tanks, warships or special forces, they do guerilla warfare, they exploit soft targets when you are not looking.

It doesn't matter how powerful or rich you are, you can not defeat or eliminate terrorists, your best bet is to curtail and confine their activities.

BH used to set off bombs everyday, the send out suicide bombers everyday to blow up markets and even mosques, the used to set off bombs even in Abuja, they took control of nearly the whole of Borno state with their flags flying everywhere, but you don't see all that anymore, they just exploit soft targets and play hide and seek.

Terrorists are not at your doorsteps because our brave men and women are sacrificing their lives to make sure they don't show up at your door.

Al qaeda and some terrorist group employed same tactics in the places that you mentioned.

In face to face combat, they don’t stand a chance. Casualties on the US forces side were mainly from IEDs placed along their paths.
American military is the best in the world sir not just on the top 3.

We had our glorious days but don’t forget where the likes of heroes past, Murtala, Obasanjo, Ironsi, Danjuma, Katsina, IBB, Buhari, etc all graduated from.

These men were trained by the British and Americans. They all passed through Sandhurst and the US Army war college.

The Americans suffered losses but like you pointed out above, it was hardly through a conventional engagements with the enemies.

With some atrocities committed by both sides, they maintained discipline and rule of engagement.

I haven’t disrespected our military, I’m just saying that the assertion that American military is over rated is very wrong.

Nigeria has men and lots of potential but corruption is destroying the enviable Nigeria military institution.

The Army will drive one way and can’t be stopped by the police, if stopped, they fight and there will be shootings, fresh men from NDA kaduna go out to ‘chawuz’ intimidate and bully civilian to look good!

We still haven’t cracked the boko haram question, BH will hit town, battle an unprepared Army and disappear...we still don’t know where they come from or where they hide.

Lots of questions need to answered not comparing our Army to the US Army.

To be honest, a fight with them is like a deluded welter weight fighting someone with the defensive skills and intelligence of Floyd Mayweather and the hand speed of Manny Pacquiao....first round, you’ll be battered, punches will rain and you can’t see them coming, if you can’t see, you can’t defend, after first round...your face and eyes are swollen and shut.

If you can’t see, you can’t locate your enemy, even if you locate him, you can’t match his speed and precision....soldiers don’t just flee from battle field unlike in the days of old but they’d make videos cursing on whoever sent them or made that engagement possible.

You know what I am saying.

seunmsg:


Why can’t your almighty US army defeat ragtag Taliban forces in Afghanistan? Why are they negotiating peace with them? When the US ran into trouble in Somalia, it was the Nigeria Army that came to their rescue.

Fighting Boko Haram is not like fighting conventional wars. It is an asymmetrical warfare that is mixed with politics and religious indoctrination. Even if you kill all Boko Haram fighters today, those who believe in the ideology will raise another set of fighters tomorrow and continue the fight. So you see, defeating Boko Haram is beyond the military. We must also defeat the politics and the ideology behind the group.

Nairaland are just gross ignorant. You guys keep mentioning Afghanistan as if USA is at war with Taliban.

USA campaign against Taliban is a punitive response to the 9/11 attacks not a full fledged war. Most of these attacks are carried out with PMC not US forces.

Only USA Congress can declare war and this only when you can judge the full might of US military.

IamAtikulate:

Nairaland are just gross ignorant. You guys keep mentioning Afghanistan as if USA is at war with Taliban.

USA campaign against Taliban is a punitive response to the 9/11 attacks not a full fledged war. Most of these attacks are carried out with PMC not US forces.

Only USA Congress can declare war and this only when you can judge the full might of US military.

You are smart. USA is in a romantic affair with Taliban.

supercase1:
In a combat scenerio whereby a US Marine army battalion with logistical support engages all Nigeria army division in a battle which side would come out victorious
US army battalion
or
Entire Nigeria Army Division!!!

Did you hear what happened to the US Army that invaded Somalia and was resisted by ill-trained and hungry militia?

US had to retreat due to high casualty on their team.

Go and watch Black Hawk Down.

Movie is not good for your health,
How old are you?
Ask elderly people around you about Liberian war and how NIGERIAN Army took over from American forces and restore normalcy.
Don't use Boko Haram to rate NIGERIAN soldier is war against idealistic criminals, such war you don't know your enemy. US can not defeat NIGERIA in a conventional war. With rules of engagement obeyed. They have air fire power which is used for intimidation. Read history.

seunmsg:

You are smart. USA is in a romantic affair with Taliban.

Are they fighting war with them?
NO.
If you think otherwise, post the link to the Congress Declaration of War

Akudaisi:
actually it's technicality that wins battle not ruggedness, BH are more technically advance than NA that's why they suffer little casualties even with their small numbers,so it's not about flogging 100 kobokos on someone it's war know-how analysis that makes the US superior,am not saying they will win but it's 50-50 knowing how uninformed our military is

What makes BH "more technically advance" than the NA in your opinion if I may ask? Their training? Their years of fighting? Their weapons? You just spewed trash

Nwaelohim:
Movie is not good for your health,
How old are you?
Ask elderly people around you about Liberian war and how NIGERIAN Army took over from American forces and restore normalcy.
Don't use Boko Haram to rate NIGERIAN soldier is war against idealistic criminals, such war you don't know your enemy. US can not defeat NIGERIA in a conventional war. With rules of engagement obeyed. They have air fire power which is used for intimidation. Read history.

A nuclear powered nations cannot defeat Nigeria?

We all saw how powerful Nigeria is during the civil war until they cried to big daddy Britain and Russia, Egypt and others

IamAtikulate:

Nairaland are just gross ignorant. You guys keep mentioning Afghanistan as if USA is at war with Taliban.

USA campaign against Taliban is a punitive response to the 9/11 attacks not a full fledged war. Most of these attacks are carried out with PMC not US forces.

Only USA Congress can declare war and this only when you can judge the full might of US military.

You haven't countered what he said and you are already tagging him as ignorant.
Did he mention anything to do with full fledged war? When you quote someone with insults please focus on the issue

Basher8583:


Did you hear what happened to the US Army that invaded Somalia and was resisted by ill-trained and hungry militia?

US had to retreat due to high casualty on their team.

Go and watch Black Hawk Down.

USA cannot deploy its soldiers in combant situation without Congress authorization.

USA as of today is not fighting any war. Their last war was during WW II.

Be guided

Liposure:
have you forgetten they use mercenaries to wage their battles

BH or NA

IamAtikulate:

A nuclear powered nations cannot defeat Nigeria?

We all saw how powerful Nigeria is during the civil war until they cried to big daddy Britain and Russia, Egypt and others

So its was big daddy that gave you men and children beri beri and qwashiokor.

Tell me. Who was France and South Africa supporting with ammunition and logistics?

imhotep:

all you need is one US platoon

Nope , all you need is a unit of the coast guard or army rangers

Basher8583:


You haven't countered what he said and you are already tagging him as ignorant.
Did he mention anything to do with full fledged war? When you quote someone with insults please focus on the issue

Counter what?

Sending PMCs doesn't equate to US forces. USA is not in any warfare with Taliban or any terrorist.

Sending pockets of helps to their allies doesn't mean any shitt

Akudaisi:
are you for real,BH are lesser in numbers and you believe they suffer more casualties lol don't be silly,BH kills more soldiers than you can imagine, a real BH recruit is well feed and properly armed and even well trained maybe you should watch a video of a boy who was among those kidnapped during that school raid, just few days there the amount of military skill he has surpasses some Nigerian soldiers try and watch the video,you call them terrorists but the truth is that they are soldiers wel trained for Killing

You are a joker, friend. Boko Haram who are stealing food are well fed? The rag tag terrorists who are engaging in ambush, using human beings as shields are the ones who are properly armed? You even said that they are small in number like you knew how many ideological fanatics that are joining them on daily basis from within and outside the country!
I guess you have forgotten what it was used to be under Jonathan and now. It is like you didn't notice any change in their capabilities or refused to acknowledge

Rossintii:


You will be surprised that in a full combat scenario between a US battalion and a Nigerian battalion, the Nigerians would actually win. If you think those cornflakes eating, pampered US troops will defeat those rugged Naija forces in man to man combat, think again. At the very most it will be a very close contest, no matter who wins.

There is a reason the US does not favour having their men on the ground in close combat, but prefer to do air strikes instead. Their fighting forces are simply not that good, and nowhere near as brave as many other troops from supposedly weaker armies.

I remember during the Somalian war in 1993 when Nigeria sent about 5,000 troops to join US forces there in Operation Restore Hope. The American troops used to beg the Nigerians to engage the Somali rebels, while all the Yanks did was mount road blocks. Nigerian troops went in and fought the Somalians in close combat and defeated them, losing very few men in the process.

Nigerian Army troops battle Somalian rebels in Mogadishu, in Operation Restore Hope, 1993

[img]https://beegeagle.files./2011/07/km845.jpg[/img]

[img]https://beegeagle.files./2011/07/somali-sniper-arrest-1993.jpg[/img]

How old are you?

I once met someone like you who said Nigeria has the best army in the world lol you kids never ceases to amaze .

GetMeRight:


What makes BH "more technically advance" than the NA in your opinion if I may ask? Their training? Their years of fighting? Their weapons? You just spewed trash

yes all of the above,NA are poorly equiped and fight with empty stomach I can't explain why,I lost a brother in 2017 he was sent to Borno state I will never advice any Easterner be him Igbo or any Ethnicity withing the East to join Nigerian Army,guy BH are well informed,and we'll equiped than NA and are well backed financially and if not with their little numbers they would have been crushed,and as a matter of fact they are growing in numbers,BH of 2014 isn't the same today

Akudaisi:
actually it's technicality that wins battle not ruggedness,BH are more technically advance than NA that's why they suffer little casualties even with their small numbers,so it's not about flogging 100 kobokos on someone it's war know-how analysis that makes the US superior,am not saying they will win but it's 50-50 knowing how uninformed our military is

They think warfare is about going to NDA to chop 100 strokes of koboko or do 500 hunches of froggie lol. Don't argue with those kids

big7 KosiGee

chiiraq802:
Which Nigerian Army
The ones scampalling for there lives because of BH, abiii the ones weh they cross carpet enter another mans country because of Herdsmen

You people saying US military is overrated , What about Nigerian Army

Boko Haram attacks Military Base and Barracks in Nigeria and at times they(BH) usually take control of some Nigeria Military Barracks....

No terrorist group in the world can overrun and outgun a US military Barracks not even ISIS or AL QAEDA, whether the barrack is based in US or the Host nation....

Please you people should stop comparing US military to Nigerian Business men sorry Military...

Its just like comparing a He-goat to a Lion.. I guess you know who the He-goat and Lion are.
#peace.

Tell them my brother... Nigerian army that have never won any war before... Nigerian army that is specialized in killing and harassing fellow countrymen... Nigerian army that mounts illegal road blocks just to make money from the poor citizens they suppose to protect.

Abeg tell me another story.

Rossintii:


You will be surprised that in a full combat scenario between a US battalion and a Nigerian battalion, the Nigerians would actually win. If you think those cornflakes eating, pampered US troops will defeat those rugged Naija forces in man to man combat, think again. At the very most it will be a very close contest, no matter who wins.

There is a reason the US does not favour having their men on the ground in close combat, but prefer to do air strikes instead. Their fighting forces are simply not that good, and nowhere near as brave as many other troops from supposedly weaker armies.

I remember during the Somalian war in 1993 when Nigeria sent about 5,000 troops to join US forces there in Operation Restore Hope. The American troops used to beg the Nigerians to engage the Somali rebels, while all the Yanks did was mount road blocks. Nigerian troops went in and fought the Somalians in close combat and defeated them, losing very few men in the process.

Nigerian Army troops battle Somalian rebels in Mogadishu, in Operation Restore Hope, 1993

[img]https://beegeagle.files./2011/07/km845.jpg[/img]

[img]https://beegeagle.files./2011/07/somali-sniper-arrest-1993.jpg[/img]

Like they've defeated Boko Haram and bandit's? You wish