jl115:
They are just Indians....not Black Indians

Depends...like we have Americans an also black Americans...hope you understand what i mean

mtisTheQubit:


dude you said khoisan are not black an that you can prove that genetically...still waiting for that ..an you also said black is just a color...

you sound like ya just trolling

Black as in Congoid or Bantu Black............hence why I asked what does he mean by Black.....as in their colour or their race since Black also refers to Congoid/Bantu African race

mtisTheQubit:


Depends...like we have Americans an also black Americans...hope you understand what i mean

Is the Person on the right a Black Indian or Black African?

jl115:
A golden Brown I would say.......

where i come from we call it black...

mtisTheQubit:


where i come from we call it black...

Is Barrack Obama black?

jl115:
Is Barrack Obama black?

Yes...from Kenya first black president of USA

mtisTheQubit:

Boss, you gonna piss off so many folks here..insinuating that Bantus ruled em..
Anyway, DNA structure of ancient Egyptians is debatable like almost every society claiming a piece of it even the Somalis ..but what you posted here is undeniable an does explain alot if only people might take time an think about it..
if it's true then the commonly told Bantu migration route might be incorrect..

Srsly!?

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b[b]]MAIN INDICATORS FOR ESTABLISHING SIMILARITY
BETWEEN ANCIENT EGYPTIAN AND PROTO-BANTU[[/b]/b]
In order to classify the Ancient Egyptian language into the Niger-Congo
branch, some of the following seven indicators for establishing similarity
between the languages have been used.
(1) Substantial resemblance and similarities in fundamental vocabulary.
(2) Organisation of parts of speech, the sentence.
(3) Morphological analysis.
(4) Etymology of words.
(5) Ranking of gender nouns.
(6) Augmentative gender noun forms.
(7) Collective gender noun forms.

[b][b]Early Africans were global players! Niger CONGO speakers got as far as China. [/[/b]b]In fact they established the first Xia dynasty 3500 yrs ago.

How the oldest dialect, Southern Mianchi aka Qiang contains Niger-Congo tonal elements.
A Hong Kong uni study.

‘African’ Tone in the Sinosphere*

Linguists often refer to tonal languages as belonging to ‘types’ ─ African,
East Asian, etc. This paper documents the tonal system of the Mianchi dialect of
Southern Qiang, a Tibeto-Burman language located squarely in the East Asian
tone environment. Although tone has developed in Southern Qiang under heavy
influence from Chinese, the tone system found in Mianchi fits an ‘African’
typology much better than it does a ‘Chinese’ or ‘East Asian’ type. The degrees of
African-ness and Chinese-ness are evaluated, and African-style features are shown
to be lurking throughout the Qiangic family. [/b]Similarities of word structure and
word length between African and Qiangic languages are held responsible for the
similarities.

[url][http://www.ling.sinica.edu.tw/Files/LL/Docments/Journals/9.3/j2008_3_01_8656.pdfurlurl]

[b]Almost all the Bantu people living in Kenya speak of a migration from up North. The people of Marachi location are known to have come from Elgon although other clans of the same group came from Egypt. They came in canoes on the River Nile as far as Juja, Uganda and later moved eastward into lake Victoria. They changed course until Asembo and separated with the Luo who walked along the lake shore but the rest crossed into South Nyanza. They then turned northwards and reached Butere and then moved on to Luanda and to Ekhomo. The Luo people were behind them right from Egypt.
The people of Samia location came from Egypt on foot. The Abakhekhe clan too originated from Egypt on foot. The Abachoni clan originally came from Egypt on foot. The people of Bukusu originally came from Egypt in canoes.

DNA EVIDENCE is often misunderstood but understanding the common Bantu M2 lineage ISN'T difficult.

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b]The M2 lineage is mainly found primarily in "eastern", "sub-saharan", and sub-equatorial African groups, those with the highest frequency of the "Broad[/b]" trend physiognomy, but found also in notable frequencies in Nubia and Upper Egypt, as indicated by the RFLP TaqI 49a, f variant IV (see Lucotte and Mercier, 2003; Al-Zahery et al. 2003 for equivalecies of markers), which is affiliated with it. The distribution of these markers in other parts of Africa has usually been explained by the "Bantu migrations", but their presence in the Nile Valley in non-Bantu speakers cannot be explained in this way. Their existence is better explained by their being present in populations of the early Holocene Sahara, who in part went on to people the Nile Valley in the mid-Holocene, according to Hassan (1988); this occured long before the "Bantu migrations", which also do not explain the high frequency of M2 in Senegal, since there are no Bantu speakers there either". S.O.Y. Keita American Journal of Human Biology 16:679-689 (2004)

Tbh, believing in this Bantu migration BS via the Congo is EMBARRASSING!

jl115:
Is the Person on the right a Black Indian or Black African?

you said there are no black indians so i'll pass on that

jl115:
Black as in Congoid or Bantu Black............hence why I asked what does he mean by Black.....as in their colour or their race since Black also refers to Congoid/Bantu African race

Now i get you...White folks call the Negros (Congoid ) or blacks.You know it got a racist origin .so do you folks call Somalis black or what ?

mtisTheQubit:


Yes...from Kenya first black president of USA

1. his not from Kenya 2. His mother is white

mtisTheQubit:


Now i get you...White folks call the Negros (Congoid ) or blacks.You know it got a racist origin .so do you folks call Somalis black or what ?

It's about genetics bru....Not racism!! for fvck sake....can't you kenyans have a discussion without the word Racist?

mtisTheQubit:


you said there are no black indians so i'll pass on that

So what is he? Black African? Also what is a none Black African since you coined the term Black African......

jl115:
So what is he? Black African? Also what is a none Black African since you coined the term Black African......

Dude you said there are no Black Indian so i dont have a name for him...what the freak do you wan me call him..Ok i will call him an Indian..a fully blooded Indian ..now ya happy .

kikuyu1:


Srsly!?

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[b]Early Africans were global players! Niger CONGO speakers got as far as China. [/[/b]b]In fact they established the first Xia dynasty 3500 yrs ago.

How the oldest dialect, Southern Mianchi aka Qiang contains Niger-Congo tonal elements.
A Hong Kong uni study.

‘African’ Tone in the Sinosphere*


[url][http://www.ling.sinica.edu.tw/Files/LL/Docments/Journals/9.3/j2008_3_01_8656.pdfurlurl]

[b]Almost all the Bantu people living in Kenya speak of a migration from up North. The people of Marachi location are known to have come from Elgon although other clans of the same group came from Egypt. They came in canoes on the River Nile as far as Juja, Uganda and later moved eastward into lake Victoria. They changed course until Asembo and separated with the Luo who walked along the lake shore but the rest crossed into South Nyanza. They then turned northwards and reached Butere and then moved on to Luanda and to Ekhomo. The Luo people were behind them right from Egypt.
The people of Samia location came from Egypt on foot. The Abakhekhe clan too originated from Egypt on foot. The Abachoni clan originally came from Egypt on foot. The people of Bukusu originally came from Egypt in canoes.

DNA EVIDENCE is often misunderstood but understanding the common Bantu M2 lineage ISN'T difficult.

[

Tbh, believing in this Bantu migration BS via the Congo is EMBARRASSING!

Thanks man but i see some folks here already denying it...They have been programmed in acertain way

jl115:

Are these people black:

The first two yes and the last one no, the first two are the dravidians of India black people who left Africa thousands of years ago and their skin colour never changed

mtisTheQubit:

Dude you said there are no Black Indian so i dont have a name for him...what the freak do you wan me call him..Ok i will call him an Indian..a fully blooded Indian ..now ya happy .

Do you get my point now?? Race is not determined by skin colour but by genetics.........Skin colour can vary tremendously even in people of the same ethnicity hence why it can't be used to classify people to a specific race.

Hence to get back to my point, Khoisan are not of the same race as Congoid/ Bantu African people

jl115:
1. his not from Kenya 2. His mother is white

father Kenyan ..fact
You know the truth bro..you cant call him white..so he black for now

Abohboy:


The first two yes and the last one no, the first two are the dravidians of India black people who left Africa thousands of years ago and their skin colour never changed

All people left Africa........

jl115:
It's about genetics bru....Not racism!! for fvck sake....can't you kenyans have a discussion without the word Racist?

So now black is genetics stuff not color..you said earlier black is color..i'll stick with that

mtisTheQubit:


father Kenyan ..fact
You know the truth bro..you cant call him white..so he black for now

Fair enough but when Abohboy said when Egyptians mixed with Arabs and Europeans that they are not Black anymore

So by his definition Barack Obama isn't black

mtisTheQubit:

So now black is genetics stuff not color..you said earlier black is color..i'll stick with that

I said race is not based of skin colour but from genetics.

Also maybe if you took the context of the discussion I had with Ahboy then you wouldn't be so confused

jl115:
Do you get my point now?? Race is not determined by skin colour but by genetics.........Skin colour can vary tremendously even in people of the same ethnicity hence why it can't be used to classify people to a specific race.

Hence to get back to my point, Khoisan are not of the same race as Congoid/ Bantu African people

Yes Khoisans are not Bantus or Congoid..but they are definitely black...

So to you African people are blacks...Now stop calling ya self (Boer) an African

mtisTheQubit:


Yes Khoisans are not Bantus or Congoid..but they are definitely black...

So to you African people are blacks...Now stop calling ya self (Boer) an African

Africa/Africans have many different races and skin colours

jl115:
I said race is not based of skin colour but from genetics.

Also maybe if you took the context of the discussion I had with Ahboy then you wouldn't be so confused

That good..now tell me what of those white folks who have tested their Geneology thingy an found themselves 40% sub-Saharan...do we still call them Europeans or Africans

Kikuyu,
Arabs/Jew/Cushites/Semites/Berbers (supra sahara) - so called Afro-Asiatic
And the Sub-sahara (Niger-Congo) are related - genetically.
The so called Nilo-Saharan - is really a waste bucket that racist white scientist couldn't make their mind -
But they are either in that supra or sub-sahara.

The bantus is small segment of Niger-Congo - the volta-congo - and definitely came from Cameroun-Nigeria border.

The ancestors of the bantus came up north - I think Lake Chad and Nile Basin - are the two areas that have potentially be identified.

The ancestor of sub-sahara and supra-sahara including most of middle east (arabs) was one.

But definitely the Arab/Jew is close to African than to the European.

Their y-dna is Eb1b while the African is Eb1ba - or something like that.

kikuyu1:


Srsly!?

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[b]Early Africans were global players! Niger CONGO speakers got as far as China. [/[/b]b]In fact they established the first Xia dynasty 3500 yrs ago.

How the oldest dialect, Southern Mianchi aka Qiang contains Niger-Congo tonal elements.
A Hong Kong uni study.

‘African’ Tone in the Sinosphere*


[url][http://www.ling.sinica.edu.tw/Files/LL/Docments/Journals/9.3/j2008_3_01_8656.pdfurlurl]

[b]Almost all the Bantu people living in Kenya speak of a migration from up North. The people of Marachi location are known to have come from Elgon although other clans of the same group came from Egypt. They came in canoes on the River Nile as far as Juja, Uganda and later moved eastward into lake Victoria. They changed course until Asembo and separated with the Luo who walked along the lake shore but the rest crossed into South Nyanza. They then turned northwards and reached Butere and then moved on to Luanda and to Ekhomo. The Luo people were behind them right from Egypt.
The people of Samia location came from Egypt on foot. The Abakhekhe clan too originated from Egypt on foot. The Abachoni clan originally came from Egypt on foot. The people of Bukusu originally came from Egypt in canoes.

DNA EVIDENCE is often misunderstood but understanding the common Bantu M2 lineage ISN'T difficult.

[

Tbh, believing in this Bantu migration BS via the Congo is EMBARRASSING!

mtisTheQubit:

That good..now tell me what of those white folks who have tested their Geneology thingy an found themselves 40% sub-Saharan...do we still call them Europeans or Africans

What white person had 40% sub Saharan genealogy and was still white?

Adolf Hilter - had DNA profile typical of a somali or ethiopia
--.Adolf Hitler may have had Jewish and African ancestors, according to a recent DNA study by Belgian researchers.

jl115:
What white person had 40% sub Saharan genealogy and was still white?

jl115:
Africa/Africans have many different races and skin colours

Now stop following the racist based definition of Black...white folks defined negroes as the definition af black...
We all come in different shades dude...

Actually when they found the black phenotype was just skin deep - they went further - and tried to define negro as not only black - but as someone short, with wide norse, and etc - like typical sub-saharan african. That would exclude Somalis/Ethiopias/Berbers/Tutsi - who they described as caucasoid.

mtisTheQubit:


Now stop following the racist based definition of Black...white folks defined negroes as the definition af black...
We all come in different shades dude...

Sandra Laing

This women basically destroyed the apartheid Governments argument of classifying people based of skin colour.

Sandra Laing btw is genetically 100% Boer

Church school - one of the 800 - a country of 30million - with maybe 15m school going kids.

Just30:
PRESEC LEGON

There are a total of 12 classroom blocks on campus. Each block has at least 6 classrooms. A typical classroom size measures 35 meters squared and has an average capacity of 45 students. There are 39 Science classroom(form one – three), 12 Business class rooms, 15 for General Arts and Visual Arts and a state of the art studio for the Visual Art department.

mtisTheQubit:


Now stop following the racist based definition of Black...white folks defined negroes as the definition af black...
We all come in different shades dude...

Im the one trying to differentiate the difference between Skin colour and race............So how am I following the racist definition of Black?